Are today's full-suspension bikes so good that they actually take away from the ride? I'm not sure that I'd go that far, but there's a reason why less travel often equals more fun: you're closer to the edge of control. I'm talking about those split-second moments when you may or may not find yourself picking dirt out from between your teeth while laying on your back; the dirfty, slidey stuff that makes a ride so great. And hardtails are the epitome of doing more with less, although it sure is easy to forget how fun they can be in these days of carbon fiber, full-suspension wünderbikes that can cost as much a decent car and let us cash cheques that our skills can't actually cover.
Santa Cruz, a company that has plenty of those carbon fiber, full-suspension bikes priced around the cost of a gently used Honda Civic, has just added the opposite kind of animal to their stable: a new aluminum hardtail designed to do a lot of things while not costing a lot of money. Or at least not compared to a fancy Nomad, anyway. The bare frame, which is said to weigh 4.6lbs, sells for $749 USD, and complete bikes start at $1,599 and top out at $1,999 USD.
The latest Chameleon is actually the seventh iteration of Santa Cruz's aluminum hardtail (feel old now?), and it's been made to run a set of 29'' wheels if that's how you roll, or 27.5+ rims and tires if you want more cushion for the push'n. Hate rear derailleurs? That's fine; you don't need to run one if you don't want. Four different sets of bolt-on dropouts let you pick from those choices, as well as everyone's favorite hub spacing that sounds like it was named after a fizzy energy drink. The bike's name sure makes sense when you think about it.
There's also a threaded bottom bracket shell, a place for a front derailleur, internal routing for your party-post that none of the complete bikes include, and you can even have it in any color you want just so long as that color is olive green. There are also two bottle cage mounts like every proper mountain bike should have.
The numbers lean towards the fun side of the hardtail spectrum rather than the nervous, scary side, with a 67.5-degree head angle with a 120mm-travel fork and a 460mm reach on the large-sized Chameleon. It's not quite as roomy and low to the ground as the Kona Honzo CR, but that will be a good thing for some riders.
This being the digital release of the seventh generation Chameleon, I have no idea how it rides yet, but the bikes are already in dealers if you want to see one in the flesh. If I were to choose one, it'd likely be the 29er in olive green (surprise!) as big wheels and little travel always goes together nicely. And I'd have to add a party-post, of course, because every trouble making hardtail should have one.
How would you run your Chameleon? Big wheels or 27.5+? Geared or single-speed?
A thank you letter for making an almost-sensibly priced bike?
Also, don't be a dick about your biases.
And I was riding aluminum and steel hardtails since probably before you were a wet spot in your daddy's pants, and there is no way aluminum is better from a ride quality perspective.
The much needed opening statement to any discussion these days.
At 4.6 lbs and being designed for trail riding, I'm betting the Chameleon is pretty smooth, even fairly flexy, being long enough for 29". I can almost make the dropouts touch each other with the rear wheel out on some 29" aluminum frames. Things have changed since 1999.
I would go for a PP Shan GT over this!
On a differant note, I remember going with my mate to buy his 1st gen Chamleon when they first came out. 1999 or 2000? Came from this tiny shop that was also a post office near Wembury, Plymouth.
For me personally... I can get the chameleon for 1/3rd the price of the chromag.
I've always like the feel of a quality aluminum hard tail. I think Santa Cruz has a great idea here with getting into this price bracket. Not everyone can afford $3-8k for a bike. In fact... most people can't. So this is a great business move. Make a good bike at a good price. My only beef is the reach. I have gorilla arms.
Also, Diamondback is putting out good AM hardtails in their Mason 27.5+ line.
People may scoff, but they're doing good work these days.
The Chameleon 29's HA is actually marginally slacker than the Nimble 9, which I thought was generally regarded as one of the more aggressive HT 29ers. I not very familiar with the category, though. What are some HT 29ers with slacker HA?
I have nothing against the Chameleon, ive just always been a steel hardtail kinda guy.
My new bike is costing in the region of £2800 and thats not including all the stuff I am using from another bike... total replacement cost is about £4k which is silly money and thats with a fairly sensible build (ie no carbon or flashy stuff).
For me I would always put my money in the frame and upgrade everything else with time except the drivetrain which a disposable part(s) anyway.
Wish they would have saved it for the new Hightower colors later this year--don't dig either of the Hightower colors right now. But, meh..you win some, you lose some.
This is expensive for a hardtail. That being said I've been looking at getting a surly karate monkey for general hooning around. This is $50 more for the frame and the rear dropouts are way better.
I think getting a frame, finding some takeoff fox 32s, some take off wheels and a $300 xt drivetrain would be the best way to do it.
In the last couple weeks just scrapped the blown Manitou X-Vert forks for some '00 Marzocchi Z1 CR's... threw on some RaceFace Atlas cranks got some new pads for the V-brakes.
It still shreds haha
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Compare bike to bike.
Sooo.......
Seems like your point was to not have a point? 20 years ago you didn't have that hardtail...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR2oLA9mSXw
Additionally, there's also the Tokul 4130 which is better spec'd than the Tokul 3 but comes in at the same price of the entry level D+ Chameleon. The one big advantage of the Tokul 4130 is the dropper post.
Either way plus size hardtails are dope.
They checked all the boxes with this new version that I wanted out of mine. Room for 27+, boost spacing, and to leave the rest alone! The chameleon is one of the most fun bikes out there!
And for those that doubt the need for a plus sized hardtail, yes, aluminum still beats the crap out of you and doesn't flex as much as steel. So you want that extra cusion (at least I do).
And how would I build it?? 27+ single speed with a nifty uppy-downy post please!
1x10 with 27.5 wheels and 140mm fork. nearly all the rebuild have been with parts from other bikes that we getting upgrades still great to ride .
"And on that bombshell" I totally lack the excitement over this one.
So no gears with 142mm hub?
On a serious note, all those Shropshire kids will dump the carbon sc bikes now as they are officially a budget brand now.
Besides looking at the geo numbers and the fork travel its more designed as a jack of all trades rather than a pure 'fun bike' (although I bet it is a riot to ride). Something that can attack a trail centre and carve natural singletrack but is still happy putting in big miles up and down. 29/27+ makes a lot of sense for that sort of bike, besides 29ers and plus bikes are fun to ride, despite what some may claim...
I bought a Chameleon back in the early 2000's, and slapped a Marzocchi Z150 & DeeMax wheels on her....it was my 1st freeride / DH bike, haha. It was a riot
I still have my 2004 Chameleon hanging in the garage... I still ride it at the pump track, too!
"the moniker Chameleon has never rang more true"
I hope the bike is better than the grammar.
That should make it a real bike right?
Yea, of course it all depends what trails you mainly ride. but the PP was still the best feeling hardtail ive rode, think it was the combo of big wheels and great steel feel but it was on flattish stuff.
I haven't riden a btr but I think they have the geo nailed, if you like going down really steep stuff that is.
I woud'nt
a jack of all trades is a master of none