Sea Otter Day 6 - Tent is Up!

 The DHR looks like such a nice bike.
Interesting about the flat black painted Deemax wheels.

 really? where'd you hear that about the wheels?

 the turner would look amazing with black demaxxs and yellow demaxx logos............i need new boxers the evil and DHR are just something

 Wow... Sick bikes!!!!!

 both linkages look amazing! interesting how they work. it looks like some areas are under a lot of pressure. anywho, thats crazy...

 I'd say that Steve Smith is super stoked

 +1 to that, cool linkage design on the revolt, its beautiful

 that graphics are awsome, those links need to be super strong though....

 If the DW Link is so good - why isn't it being used on this bike?

Delta System = Commencal Linkage (increased leverage in mid range of shock) + Fancy Name.

Nice graphics and marketing though!

 I don't know if the DW Link is so good...I mean since Dave Weagle has his name on both bikes he seems to be doing well for himself. You read the last part right..the mARTketing on it is nice.

 Hey Mackeroo, the Delta linkage replaces the main frame mounting point on the shock with a link, on the Commencal it is the other way around(on the swingarm). Making this design a "floating" shock, the Commencal is not. If anything, this design is more similar to a Sinister Splinter MX in the sense that is uses a "pull rod" mounted to the swingarm to compress the shock.

 It's actually different than the Commencal, the Commencal is a basic single pivot with a shock linkage that imporves a specific range of the shocks performance. If you look closely at the Evil the shock is not attached to a fixed non moving point on either end. The shock attaches to the the rear swing arm and to the Delta link ...kinda like a floating susp design but just a floating shock ...pretty cool ! My understanding is that the Delta system gives a single pivot the bottomless feel of an FSR or ICT.

 Yep, can see that the other end of the shock is attached to the swingarm, creating a 'floating' shock - like lots of other bikes already out there (Pace, Trek, etc). My point is the linkage at the other end is very similar to what is already out there, yet giving it a fancy name seems to have everyone in rapture. Effectively this system increased the leverage on the shock through certain positions during the travel - what a lot of other companies are already doing. I'm sure this is a very good bike, I'm just a bit tired of marketing propaganda. Seems to work though as everyone is talking about it, yet it isn't anything new. Easy to criticise from the comfort of a forum. Happy trails.

 I'm not in "rapture" with anything about the Revolt, but I can see the very clear difference between it and a Commencal. Personally I think the added lateral rigidity from a link between the swingarm and shock is more important than having a floating shock. I'm a huge fan of that design going back to the original Foes and Tomac DH bikes, and including the current Commencal. But, you can't just go around claiming the Evil and the Commencal are the same thing, cause they quite simply ARE NOT.

 Fair enough, old chap.

 I don't know how you see any similarity in the rear linkage of the Evil to that of a Commencal. The Evil's rear shock mount is directly on the swing arm where as the Commencal's is via a thrust link design. No similarity there

 Dave Weagle explains all about the Delta system in an article on nsmb.com. just search steve smith evil on there site and read away.

 its not, its the rear shock, its aligned to the side. that's what i read in dirt anyway, sorry if im wrong!

 Did they give an explanation for the offset shock?
Thanks!

 yeah, it just says that they couldnt fit it all in lol. if they kept it inline with the seattube etc, it would push the chainline out furthur and mean the cranks have to be out furthur, therefore giving the frame pretty poor compatibility with other components. that's it in a nutshell! according to dirt anyway...

 2.25 Maxxis CrossMark LUST.

 yea that doesnt make sense

 yeah, looking kinda weird, but i like it lol

 yep. i think its called linken driven single pivot. Tomac Primers use the same concept. nice looking rig though. dont think i would wanna clean mud out of the links...

 offset shock what do you mean ?

 The shock on the Evil is positioned left of center, giving the bike a miniscule advantage cornering to the left (lower center of gravity).

 oh thats sweet lol .
thanks for that