21 Bikes From Eurobike 2016

Sep 3, 2016
by Mike Kazimer  
Eurobike 2016.
Cannondale Habit.


Eurobike 2016.
GT Sensor.


Eurobike 2016.
GT Fury.


Eurobike 2016.
NS Snabb.


Eurobike 2016.
Bianchi Ethanol FS.


Eurobike 2016.
Lapierre Spicy 527.


Eurobike 2016.
Yeti SB6c.


Eurobike 2016.
Polygon Collosus DH9


Eurobike 2016.
Bulls Wild Creed Team.


Eurobike 2016.
Orange Strange.


Eurobike 2016.
Transition Scout Carbon.


Eurobike 2016.
Dartmoor Blackbird Pro.


Eurobike 2016.
Banshee Legend.


Eurobike 2016.
Banhee Rune.


Eurobike 2016.
Morpheus Carbon Downhill.


Eurobike 2016.
DaBomb 275 Carbon.


Eurobike 2016.
Pilot hardtail with XKiloLink fork.


Eurobike 2016.
Portus Cycles Pinduro 1.1.


Eurobike 2016.
Portus Cycles Flotte Karl prototype.


Eurobike 2016.
Zerode Taniwha.


Eurobike 2016.
Sunn Kern LT.


Which of these 21 bikes is your favorite?



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151 Comments
  • 192 8
 We should donate $10 to Zerode Taniwha to help it become competitive against the established giants.
Am not going to buy a new bike today, but wouldn't mind seeing the company succeed.
  • 12 0
 I will follow.
  • 35 5
 If you guys like it so much and want the company to succeed then you need to buy one. I feel like this is the bike PB wants, but no one ends up buying them. I personally don't like the idea of a gearbox, but I see it does have merits.
  • 24 1
 @UtahBikeMike: the first question is where can I buy it. The second one is where can I find a third kidney.
  • 15 3
 @fracasnoxteam:

You're fine with 1. How do you think i got my nomad?
  • 12 0
 I WILL be buying a Taniwha. Lots of saving, but I think it is a game changer.
  • 8 0
 Love at first sight....i got you zerode in Taniwha.
  • 8 2
 @UtahBikeMike: Limited production and a rather large price tag is what keeps people away, I'd absolutely buy a Zerode if they were offering complete bikes in the $5000 range.
  • 50 2
 Ok im just going to leave this here (also, i like comparing apples with apples)

Zerode Taniwha with float x2 (5245 NZD) - 3826 USD
Has 12 speed gearbox, with 600% range.

NomadCC frame with debonair rc3 - 2999 USD
Eagle drive train - 1350 USD
12 speed deraileur drivetrain with 520% range (correct me if im wrong)
Total cost - 4349 USD

Now, can someone please explain to me why everyone thinks the taniwhas price is something we have not seen before? Im not that good at maths, i need some help?
I first thought that a taniwha was actually a bargin when you start comparing it to other options?
  • 15 0
 @KiwiClint: The price you've quoted is for the frame only, no gearbox. It also includes 15% GST which is only relevant to NZers. A Taniwha frame with gear-box is $4386 USD ($7075NZD - 15%) so the same as the Nomad + Eagle. Their website notes the initial run was only going to be 50 frames but they are over-subscribed and should produce more. Given the scale the price seems very good to me.
  • 5 3
 @KiwiClint: But it's also worth noting that the top end Meta V4.2, also with Eagle, costs $4500 USD. It isn't carbon, but If you're okay with that it's a ton cheaper than building one of those bikes.
  • 2 0
 @src248: give it a few years and you might see that...
  • 17 0
 @Injuredhippo: The other thing to note is that the gear box requires almost zero maintenance. You may need to replace the rear sprocket every year or two but you dont have a $360 USD cassette that you will have to replace in the same time period or a $220 USD rear mech hanging in the way of rocks and roots. You get a stronger rear wheel with no dishing and lose a whole lot of un-sprung weight.
  • 6 0
 I believe pre-sales are thru the roof, I think he'll do alright
  • 5 7
 @markhouse : That is incorrect. Zerode drivetrains have exposed moving parts just like traditional drive trains. Its funny because when I rode in NZ, the dude on the Zerode was coincidentally the one with drivetrain problems. His tensioner broke just like a derailleur does when its stressed repeatedly (he had the DH bike where the tensioner is in the back). And it really is a design flaw rather than a design choice in my eyes. The Taniwha puts the tensioner in a more exposed position than their DH bike did so now it is located at arguably the most exposed part of the drivetrain altogether.

They could have easily chosen to do the same gearbox style as this where the chain connects directly to the gearbox rather than the crankset: ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb10196155/p4pb10196155.jpg

But I must say.. That is a beautiful bike and that the rear wheel would be better, and the unsprung weight reduction is good too. I won't agree that its almost zero maintenance, and I will point out that an internal drivetrain would be a bitch to service. So for now... Zerode isn't really on my radar.
  • 5 1
 @VTwintips: Easily fixed with a shoelace and a rubber band or piece of tube works mint and costs nothing.
  • 3 16
flag VTwintips (Sep 3, 2016 at 20:01) (Below Threshold)
 @onelung: On the negative side, I facepalmed so hard at your suggestion that I knocked my brain out of the back of my skull, but on the bright side, at least you've helped me illuminate that Zerode's have a reliability problem common enough for a person familiar with the bike to not only know what I'm talking about without me explaining the type of failure that I witnessed but also how to jerry-rig a temporary solution to the design flaw.

Its amazing the way that Kiwis are willing to defend their own countries product tooth and nail so blindly that they can't recognize the problem at hand.
  • 3 14
flag VTwintips (Sep 3, 2016 at 20:14) (Below Threshold)
 @onelung: Every time that I point out this flaw, I immediately regret it. I immediately regret the fact that I'm going to have a flock of Kiwi's running to poorly defend the product. You made me feel like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

I hope you're happy.
  • 4 12
flag VTwintips (Sep 3, 2016 at 20:19) (Below Threshold)
 @onelung: Last one:

Every time a NZ'er says that there's nothing counter-productive about the Zerode gearbox system, a Kiwi bird dies.
  • 6 0
 @VTwintips: I rode the DH bikes for 3 plus years and never had a tensioner issue. The springs do loose tension and should be swapped out once a year for $15 USD.
  • 3 0
 Mikey Haderer had 1 break on him in the 3 years he has been on them BTW.
  • 3 5
 @downhillnews: I don't have the time/effort/will to defend this point. The cavelrie bike has a better drivetrain and the Zerode costs a metric shit ton for what it offers. That's where I'll leave this discussion.
  • 2 0
 @VTwintips: Have you ridden one?
  • 5 1
 @VTwintips: Pretty sure he said the gearbox needs no maintenance not the whole system. I know what I'd rather have break on me out of a $5 tension spring or a $500 eagle derailleur (I know thats not the price but I'm sure you get the point.) And how is the tensioner possibly in a million years more exposed than a massive cage hanging below the back axle?
  • 3 0
 @VTwintips: Here's the review for the Cavalerie www.pinkbike.com/news/cavalerie-anakin-first-ride-2016.html I'd hardly say a continuously spinning belt drive constitutes a "better" drivetrain....
  • 3 0
 if they do something with that horrible brake cable routing..
  • 3 0
 I hear you @VTwintips - having the tensioner next to the cranks looks dicey. But so does under bb cabling and alot of other things that don't turn out to be an issue. It's hard to know how this will run, I know a few people who have bought them and will treat them pretty rough so will be interesting to see how the 'needs no maintenance' argument goes.
  • 3 0
 @VTwintips: I've got one of the Zerode G1 DH bikes, and need to disagree. I've been riding it for 3-4 years now and so far the only problem has been the plastic BB guard has interacted a few too many times with rocks. That and the frame is too small because they only came in one size the first year they made them.

Other than that, I've had next to no issues beyond standard bike wear and tear. It's not a perfect bike, but it keeps working.
  • 1 0
 @VTwintips: yea i have had a gear box brake a tensinor go into my wheel and ruin itself and the wheel and pull the thread out of my swing arm so it was to thin to re thread now im on a new swing arm...most work i have ever done to a drive chain on a zerode but that could just be my luck.
  • 4 0
 My brother has a zerode G1. The thing is the sickest bike I've ever ridden
  • 2 0
 I've ridden one, not the Taniwha, but the DH. Interesting feel with the high pivot. The cavelerie seems to be a pretty big miss in terms of making the whole drivetrain spin (and also I don't like the belt idea, because they aren't readily replacable at most bike shops, in case something went wrong). Its also extremely heavy and ugly so its a miss in that sense too. I like the Taniwha overall better. I just wish they could do the two chain ordeal like the DH, but put the chain's sprockets in line with the bikes pivots so a tensioner was unnecessary.
  • 2 0
 @KiwiClint: CDN exchange rate makes this bike unrealistic for myself. $4964 frame only. Frown
  • 3 0
 @VTwintips: Well that´s odd. I had the Zerode G1 for 3 years and I never had any issues with tensioner or the gearbox. Then I bought an "ordinary" bike and I´ve gone through 4 deraliuer hanger the last 18 months.
  • 5 0
 @Raffe: @VTwintips Zerode's weak spot is the tensioner, i've owned one for two full lift assisted seasons and replaced one due to the spring snapping. Yes, because shops don't stock Zerode parts I do have my own spares.

Yep, the high pivot does produce some interesting ride characteristics, such as considerable anti squat and an extremely linear action.

However, I have never replaced any bearings, a tensioner costs $15, I have never had to replace a gear cable, I have never snapped or twisted a chain device or drivetrain part.

It is deathly quiet. No bike i've ever ridden comes close in the steeps, in the rough, in the corners. Once i'd shaved some excess fat with some carbon it's as light as heavier DH bikes out there - eg. Gambler

Often they are mis-understood as they are not ridden where they should be, it's a waste of time on flat tracks and in areas without lift assist, it needs steep. It is the worlds WORST car park bike!
  • 1 0
 @TopperharleyPT1: I'm always intrigued by the G2. The rearward axle path seems good for DH
  • 2 0
 @gonecoastal: It's a bike everyone should try (in the right circumstances). The G2.5 is the go
  • 1 0
 Brilliant idea.
  • 1 0
 If they get the weight down and lose the twist shifter I'd be all over this. The shifter alone is enough to not buy for me.
  • 2 0
 @minty1: You have to remember that the shifter works better with this than with traditional gears as you dont need to be peddling to change. Imagine going from a steep decent to a steep climb and one movement dumps 12 gears. With a normal shifter thats 12 clicks of the thumb.
  • 1 0
 Nice touch by bianchi including a year supply of douche bags.
  • 2 0
 My mind is just blown the f*ck out to see the Zerode get so many votes. How fvcking awesome is that? I actually voted for the Bianchi of all things first, just because it's the cleanest & meanest looking despite the faggy blue & the fork that would be nicer done in olive IMO, I dig the olive green flat & the lines & the cleanliness of it. Aside from the Morpheus & the Zerode, all the other bikes look like a grotesque waste of resources. Embarrassments to the sport. I wanted to go with the Zerode, but a gearbox bike that still needs a tensioner is a bit like an "electric" car that still needs a gas engine. The Taniwha is still as clean as any other & the tensioner on it sure beats a derailleur, so meh, Zerode gets it for making a nice bike, trying to push the industry in the right direction against all the gigantic, greedy, corporate opposition.

Gimme a lean, clean & mean raw carbon on a box with a concentric pivot & I'm yours. Smile
  • 1 0
 @minty1: That bike is just under 31LBS my Insurgent, Megatrail and Following all weighed 31 and some change. He has light tires it would be 32 with real tires on there BTW.
  • 43 4
 That Zerode Hands Down!
  • 5 3
 5K for a frame is steep, but 5h1t if it's not a pretty bike.
  • 14 0
 @BDKR: yes, but it does have the gear box, so you wont need to buy a whole drivetrain.
  • 11 6
 Isn't that a Nomad?
  • 7 1
 @BDKR: That's the price in New Zealand dollars which converts to $ 3500 USD. That seems OK considering the scale they are working at, the website notes the first run was slated be 50 frames. It'd be awesome to see them succeed.
  • 3 0
 @Injuredhippo: with the shock?

for comparison, a nicolai with a pinion is 4000 and something euros, and is alloy
  • 3 0
 @tiagomano: With a FOX Factory Float X BUT that doesn't include the pinion which is $4386 USD for people outside NZ who incur 15% GST. It's all in this link, note that these prices include 15% GST which only applies to New Zealand.
  • 2 0
 www.zerodebikes.com/site_files/2411/upload_files/Zerodetaniwhapreorderemailform.pdf?dl=1
  • 1 0
 @Injuredhippo: OK.... My math was way off then. 3500 USD is really not bad. Thanx!

@joelNZdh: I agree!

I am definitely in the market for a gear box bike. I have to admit I prefer the Ion GPI geometry but I will look closer at the Zerode as well.
  • 31 1
 I still can't believe some guy named his bike company "Da Bomb"
  • 14 2
 They should have a model "Da f*ck"
  • 10 2
 oh pb hides the word f u c k. well screw you pb.
  • 5 0
 Haha I was thinking the same thing. I can only assume the guy is 17 years old. I wish I was designing and building bikes when I was a teenager!
  • 6 1
 ditto, and more baffled that enough other guys buy them that they're still in business... I'll never bolt anything from Spank on my frame just because I can't get over the name, but hey, probably plenty of folks out there Spankin' Da Bomb. Whatever floats it for ya...
  • 2 0
 Its gotta be da bomb
  • 5 0
 I recall Da Bomb was a brand from the hucker era. Against that background it seems like a fitting name. And yeah, chances are the founders were quite young back then. This was the same era of the popular 24bicycles "Pornstar" and "LeToy" with the "cockring" as seatpost clamp. And the people at NS probably don't want to be associated with it anymore, but their brand used to be called North Shore Extreme (NSE). The industry got a bit more clean cut in recent years.
  • 8 0
 @bj007: Da Bomb's been around since the nineties. Company names don't get much more nineties than Da Bomb, used to see them everywhere ten years ago-ish, somebody's got to still be buying them.
  • 4 1
 just don't try to take one on a flight. sir what's in the box? oh, that's daBomb. [suits quickly arrive] please step this way sir...
  • 1 0
 why not.. it's marketing don't you get it..
  • 28 1
 Portus Designers, you guys high ?
  • 3 2
 LOL!!!!!!!!!..Thanks for that..made my morning.
  • 6 1
 I guess if you have a tad more background on the prototype (especially its fork), you appreciate it a lot more. The colors are... let's go with "corageous". The parts are exquisite (not their color though).

See www.mtb-news.de/news/2016/09/01/eurobike-portus-cycles-2017-plus-hardtail-mit-getriebe-und-bommelmaster-prototyp with google translate.
  • 2 1
 Why?
  • 1 0
 nevermind @CallumAlloAllanson
I like it and I guess there are enough others although it would be interesting to get an explanation to his statement
  • 1 0
 @portuscycles: I like it, is the fork in-house on the flotte karl?
  • 1 0
 @deadtime: the fork is done by a guy who is working for Trickstuff Components. Until now there is no production line (as far as I know) but if you go to mtb-news.de and search for user bommelmaster in the forum you can get in contact with him.
  • 2 0
 @deadtime: www.mtb-news.de/news/2015/01/16/prototyp-usd-mtb-federgabel I think he already sells them by now...
  • 26 3
 That Lapierre... Even more hideous than those Mavic shoes. Must be a French thing.
  • 2 1
 Brought to you by crossmax ☺
  • 2 1
 Actually I like the paint job much more than that of the 2016 bike. It gets away from that all matt colours of recent years. I know the bike's toptube polarizes but I like it. Have seen and driven it in the local shop and it looks nice.
  • 17 2
 My eyes seem to have become accustomed to carbon fibre, the Al bikes in here look much more interesting than the plastic ones(the Strange, Banshee's and the Sunn)
  • 2 6
flag fercho25 (Sep 3, 2016 at 7:03) (Below Threshold)
 That retarded giant bottom bracket piece is more of an italian thing than a carbon thing. Even Italian road bikes have that and I don't get it.
  • 8 0
 @fercho25: WTF are you talking about??
  • 3 2
 @oldmanDan: woops I thought he said Bianchi instead of banshee
  • 2 2
 @fercho25:
I meant your "retarded giant bottom bracket" comment.
So still WTF?
  • 2 2
 @oldmanDan: look at the Bianchi down tube where it connects to the bb and compare it with any of the other bikes and please tell me retarded is not the first word that comes to mind.
  • 20 4
 @fercho25:

Easy to manufacture the carbon mould is actually what comes to mind. Cheap production, stiffer, less weight is what comes to mind.

When I read your comments however, retarded is the first thing that comes to mind.
  • 2 2
 @oldmanDan: you actually made me laugh thanks man.

But just to be clear I was not hating on carbon I love carbon I just hate the oversized bottom bracket bit on most Italian bikes.
  • 16 5
 I do not understand why Yeti is #2 in the favorites... so many more interesting/cool bikes than some new paint accents on a 2 year old design. Not that it's bad, but this is Eurobike - an opportunity to show off how you've been innovating and improving things. So many cooler innovations, and so much more that's not showcased in this article.
...apparently Richie was a good decision for them!
  • 13 0
 well it just asked which is your favourite not which one is the craziest most unique design etc so if i was to be given one that i would want to ride it would be the yeti... but i get what you mean
  • 4 3
 The best doesn't need to change. Just because I might cut my hair and wear a mowhawk and color it purple doesn't make the style groundbreaking. Yeti is the best Period !
  • 13 1
 It's hard to kick a bad Habit. I had a Strange addiction to Ethanol and Spicy food once but I got over it when I Zerode in on my will power. Legend.
  • 2 0
 did you spit fire after eating spicy food?
  • 8 0
 That Sunn is sexy. There is just something about the sleek lines and polished aluminium that does it for me.
  • 8 0
 I forgot all about Lapierre and their Quasimodo...
  • 6 0
 Yeah. What went wrong? LaPierre used to be damn sexy bikes.
  • 6 0
 Yeti not bringing it with the Kashima bling.. Also why not the holy trinity now that Fox has a dropper out?
  • 1 0
 To be fair, they've chosen to show the cheapest version of it for some reason. The new t-series in Matt black with Kashima looks pimp as hell in the flesh
  • 6 0
 That Lapierre Spicy is about as ugly a bike as I have ever seen!
  • 5 0
 Long live the horst link
  • 2 0
 KS link is more fun Wink
  • 2 0
 Cannondale looks like a feather but those seatstays...keep it upright! Portus...love it!! Bianchi, good to see you making a showing off road!
  • 5 1
 that dartmoor is for all intents and purposes, a kona.
  • 2 0
 Agreed. Exactly my reaction when I first saw it online.
  • 1 0
 Wanted to vote up - damn PB on iPhone ;-)
My thoughts exactly, thought they just repainted a process. It's almost like they started with one, moved the shock mount to the down tube and made a couple of pivots one sided. Could be lighter, but doubt this design is superior
  • 3 0
 That pilot is hideous. The fork is something from the early terminator films. Looks like early 90's attempt at suspension.
  • 2 0
 I have to quicky scroll past that photo or I get a headache as my brain tries to process it
  • 2 0
 Think of all the performance benefits of a the XKiloLink.....(I'm still thinking).
  • 4 0
 That Lapierre looks like this:

www.pinkbike.com/photo/13898597
  • 2 0
 Lapierre Spicy Shiitake
  • 4 0
 Anyone know if Fox makes Kashima coated T-shirts?
  • 3 1
 So pinkbike shows the Yeti SB6c which has been out for 2 years now, but doesn't show the new SB5+ in this list?
  • 2 0
 Or even the new 5 (non Plus version) which looks stunning! Seems an odd choice
  • 3 1
 Looks like i will be back on a rune next year! If money were no expense Zerode for sure!
  • 4 0
 Sunn kern lt
  • 4 1
 Do you think Morpheus actually TRY to make horrible bikes?
  • 1 0
 It actually looks worse in person! It's usually the other way around. Morpheus go back to the drawing board!
  • 1 0
 At least it looks better than this thing.

p.vitalmtb.com/photos/stories/2013/01/02/max_max_198396_391920544197907_616257607_n.jpg?1357191941
  • 4 1
 Transition Scout Carbon is one of the most fun bikes to ride!
  • 2 0
 I really like the Bianchi. I would swap the shock for sure.
  • 2 0
 Can someone explain wtf is going on with the fork on the Pilot?
  • 1 0
 Where is the Chiru man! Who made this random and uncoordinated selection? Terrible...
  • 3 2
 Why is the rear brake line on the outside of the frame on the Zerode? I thought they had internal routing.
  • 2 0
 Dartmoor is shameless lol. That's a Kona!
  • 2 0
 Then you look at the prices...Frown
  • 2 0
 I'll take Peaty's "Spitfire".
  • 1 0
 Wow, thought we were going to make it through all the bikes without a Plus one in sight there for a while!
  • 1 0
 I have a Bianchi Methanol FS. It is a thing of beauty. The Ethanol FS, on the other hand, is just wrong.
  • 1 1
 That Da Bomb looks like a bike I've seen before. This time it's definitely not a Session.
  • 1 0
 I look at all these, then pick my singlespeed Honzo every time...
  • 2 1
 Some pretty bikes and some ugly bikes...
  • 3 2
 I think the zeroed just looks like a nomad.
  • 1 0
 NS Snabb with the gumwalls is pure porn.
  • 1 0
 Zerode goes back to a simple singlepivot system???
  • 2 2
 zerode has same suspension system as santa cruz nomad ?
  • 3 0
 Nope.
  • 2 0
 It looks that way at first, but no VPP linkage. The pivot point under caliper does not exist on SC
  • 3 3
 That Yeti would kick the Habit.
  • 2 2
 What am I missing???

What's special about the Zerode?
  • 9 0
 ummmmm.....maybe.............the gearbox?
  • 9 0
 Gear box trail/enduro bike that is aesthetically pleasing. My friend has one of their dh bikes and I sometimes get jealous at the complete lack of shifting problems he experiences compared to everyone else. After a weekend of riding park/racing dh, at least a few people in our group need to adjust or bend their derailleurs back into shape.
  • 7 0
 @integralnz: goddamn. I need a 2nd cup of coffee.
  • 2 0
 @unrooted: So do I, didn't even notice it was a gearbox bike
  • 5 1
 I love the bike and the Idea, but that GripShift tough...
  • 5 0
 @forgotmyloginagain1: Gripshift is awesome. I had it on my enduro bike, broke it, put the push shifters back on for a while till I fixed them, then put my Gripshift back on. Night and day and will avoid push shifters at all costs unless some decent electric ones come out that I can just hold on to while the shifting is done. I have a 1X system and the pain of clicking 5-10X to downgear sucks. With Gripshift, I can dump all my gears with 1 crank rotation.
  • 10 0
 @integralnz: To be fair though, it seems a bit of a missed opportunity to take a photo of a gearbox bike from the non-drive side...
  • 3 0
 @frenchyroast: I have a grip shift bike in my garage that I use to go around town on, its 21 years old and still works just fine, if my bikes didn't come with triggers I'd stay with grip shift. If you can ride a dirt bike, you can use grip shift. Plus, one less thing to smash your knee into. I so want to try a Pinion gear box.
  • 2 1
 Giant needs to take either the trance or Reign and put a Pinion gear box in the frame, I just don't like the look of the Zerode suspension layout, I haven't ridden it but I think I'd prefer a DW/Maestro/VPP design
  • 3 0
 @frenchyroast: You forgot to mention that they're half the price of triggers, have almost no moving parts, last forever, and don't break off when you dig your handlebars in the dirt.
  • 1 0
 @unrooted: Don't make it a decaf!
  • 4 0
 @integralnz: wtf? You think I'm stupid? If I want decaf I'll drink a beer!
  • 2 1
 Zero drivetrain input on suspension. SImple single pivot layout that should provide a very poppy feel and be very easy to set up for most people.
  • 1 0
 @brownstone: I have an old Trek Singletrack that's gotta be about 18years old, with Shimano(!) grip shifters. Being able to dump a bunch of gears has saved me on many occasions. If I weren't so lazy and mechanics-adverse, I'd upgrade my current MTB to grip shift.
  • 2 1
 That Orange is SO DANK!
  • 3 5
 Boanchi
  • 2 5
 I dont like any one Frown
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