Survey: What are You Looking For in the Parts That You Buy?

 If it is sram they won't like my answer to the last question on the survey.

 At the end of the survey there's a space to let them know that their marketing of the new Vivid Air wasn't arrogant or foolish at all :p

 It has to be SRAM because I picked Shimano as a product I would pick but it only asked me to rank the SRAM products I picked Rock Shox and Avid. I wish they would disclose their biased agenda. Hey SRAM, I am waiting for Shimano's 11 speed XT group to hit the market so I can upgrade to 11 speed. I don't like you cassette costs and the special driveshell I have to buy for all my wheels......Fuhgeddaboudit

 SA Suntour? Odd survey. SRAM, you guys above nailed it.

 done! When looking at a complete bike, suspension, rear der, and brakes are most important. Shifters are secondary, cockpit I will customize, always add a dropper post and preferred seat. Tires are preferential. I wish nice hubs were OEM on non dream price bikes.

 True that bro shemarno all the way

 Its SRAM, I had an email from them inviting me to do it

 LOL 10/10 will not do any bike related marketing survery.

 The thumbnail is two SRAM derailleurs, how could it not be SRAM?

 stuff that lasts wont keep a company running, staff in a job and money in the pot to develop new stuff when the time comes. if your expensive bike lasted forever you'd never buy another. then there would be no bike industry. products and prices are amazing now. for folk that have been riding since the 90's reliability and availability have never been like this. it's like the promised land.

 @aidy

WE NEED NOT A BIKE INDUSTRY, WE NEED A BIKES THAT LAST FOREVER.
We ride bikes, not industry.
And THEY "ride" their industry, while industry rides us.

>"if your expensive bike lasted forever you'd never buy another. then there would be no bike industry."
Wrong.
The industry just would be different: it would make VARIOUS bikes that LAST FOREVER.

They want us to beleive we need their industry because our bikes doesn't last forever.
But the reality is bikes doesn't last forever BECAUSE OF THEIR INDUSTRY!

>"products and prices are amazing now. "
The prices truly amaze people a lot more than the products. (LOL)

It's not like a promised land, it is indeed A WELL MARKETING PLAN.

 Bikes are just like all mechanical devices. They require maintenance, they have parts that wear and need replacement. If you think a bike is supposed to last forever you're living in a dream world.

 Not forever but frames that last less than 3 years is very poor really, especially when you look at the cost.

 Reliable products are great, they keep warranty claims down. By the time a product hits retail shelves the product designers and engineers are already looking for ways to improve or update the product.

 @bikecustomizer if a bike lasted forever it would be next to useless. there is no way i would be happy riding a bike from 98 knowing what i know now.

we need development unfortunately to sustain the way we live.

would you have a 25 year old tv? boil water on the oven hob instead of a kettle?
why would bikes be any different? plus the battering bikes take i dont know how they can be expected to last forever.

what i would like is brakes that are up to the job and don't have issues after very little use.

if however your rear mech lasted forever how would a company survive long enough to supply you a new one if you somehow lost yours? they wouldnt. it's the same with the car industry.

how can you expect safer economical cars if everyone is still driving around in a model t ford their grandparent bought in the 30s?

 What your talking about there @aidy is development and advancement of design. Not quality. I don't ride a bike from 98 because the ones now available are better, not because they last longer. That's the way it should be, and tbh that's pretty much the way it is. We shouldn't HAVE to buy new bikes and components because the old ones broke. We should WANT to buy new ones because design and engineering has advanced to the point where the new ones are far better than our old ones.

That's why I don't still have a 25 year old TV, because technology has come on leaps and bounds, not because my old one broke.

 Just buy a Surly and be done with it. Your bikes dont expire at the end of the year. Ride it till you cant anymore. Everything has a shelf life, if you want it to be bombproof, build it heavy.

 sometimes i think regressing to a simpler life would be better. Maybe boiling water on an open fire on the beach and watching sunsets instead of TV isnt so bad. Dying from malaria would suck tho.

 @HankBizzle we all want new stuff after 2 years anyway so what does it matter if it breaks?


@BryceBorlick i'd be all about living in a nice cabin on a mountain/beach living a simpler life as it leaves more money for fast stuff, but it can't happen in the uk unfortunately

 Same here.... horrible format.

 Yeah, made it to page 2, decided if they couldn't speak my vocabulary, I'll save my input for someone who does...

 Not gonna lie I painstakingly poked through the hole thing hoping at the end they'd sign you up for some drawing....wasted 15 minutes of my life....

 CONFIDENT: Declarative, Provocative, Free... What.

 yeah nokiddin, quit in page four, only 20% throught, took forever

 I got to 32%. your impatience > than mine.

 bottom line, both quit haha

 +1
It's ABSURD that they make you repeatedly rank your priorities again & again by individual component.
If I rank "quality" #1 for buying a whole bike, does the survey maker really think "premium pricing" is going to be #1 for something else?
After 4 minutes of manically clicking, the thing told me I was 25% through.
SCREW THAT.

 That's kind of the idea, for you to choose between things. I was initially stumped but got through by deciding what was in fact more important to me.

 So I guess all surveys that are posted on pinkbike are 18 and up? This is the third or fourth survey that I couldn't take due to the fact I'm not an adult yet. I'm not positive but isn't the youth opinion about bikes just as important as adults? Also isn't pushing youths away from your business like this a bad idea?

 me too but like you said they force the answers on you and it is way to long. I have a an attention span of about 2 min that's...OH SQUIRREL

 @matthewfraser13 it's an ethics thing. I studied research psychology in college and recruiting anyone under the age of 18 without parent's permission was a big no-no. As for forcing you to pick one for each category, it was to determine what was most important to you. Otherwise you'd get the people who just put "most likely" or "least likely" for every response, or just picking randomly. It kind of forces you to actually respond truthfully, which is the only way to take any implications from the survey.

 Wait. A company that provides bicycle information online is trying to use it's consumers to make themselves money? SHOCKER.

 Maybe you should re-read my comment. I made no judgement regarding any company making money, nor collecting the info. I suggested that PB wasn't being honest about who created the survey and I made a comment about the quality of the survey.

 Lucky you.

 So your saying survey results are either shit, or they're shit. Gotcha.

 They didn't test it too well. At one stage it asks if you would recommend Zipp mountain bike wheels to a friend. Zipp don't make MTB wheels.

 That's not a bad question, it identifies that the surveyee doesn't know anything.

 That was not PB survey. That was for a 3rd party. PB knows we don't have such a long attention span.

 Raed the driectoins betetr nxet tmie

 I get it, you can only use each option once, you have to rank them highest to lowest, still won't let me continue.

 Nah, mate you got that all wrong. Sure, we want it to match the overall colour scheme, but who wants a good looking but mediocre piece of equipment? I'd move that down the list.

 Did you even read the "durable, lightweight and functional" part of my comment?

 They want you to prioritize, not rank everything the same. "I want it all!". Well everyone does, but that's not reality.

 Strong, light, cheap: pick any two, and you will never have the third option.

 Don't know what you're talking about. After three years, a few crashes and some periodic preventative maintenance both mine are still running just fine with no issues.