review:https://mtbboy1993.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/review-bliss-arg-vertical-elbow-pad/ Bliss arg this elbow pad is made with wrogn materials, size medium is about the size of poc's large. the the official web site showed wrong sizing, i mesured, and i should get medium btu the medium was way too big and afther few weeks of sue i worn them out