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(Apr 12, 2007 at 23:12)
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looks wicked
Its not missing any "bar" both the Demos, Bighits, and all VPS bikes are all 4-Bar bikes. The Demo just attaches the shock to the chainstay and not the rocker arm. Different shock placements, same 4-Bar design. It doesnt add an extra "Bar". http://i0.pinkbike.com/photo/806/pbpic806169.jpg
Uh no.. it looks like the SX trail. the demo has the triangulated link in the lower and the cold forged swing link presiding above that. The shore frame looks nothing like the demo.
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Yes I think your missing even the most basic knowledge of suspension on mtbs. The faith has an extra linkage at the bottom like iron-horse/intense's etc have. That is a 4bar in the pic. It's no good just casting your eye over the frame and saying it looks like this or that. It is what it is - quite nice as well.
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it has nothing to do with d specialized demo people. any demo frame it's pretty much a single pivot design exept in the dropouts area, where they fited the fsr system and an extra seatstay to hold the brake mounts. with this system when u brake the rear suspension doesn't move a mm, cos the forces that the rear brake produce when braking aren't in the stay that pulls the shock. this norco system it's totally difrent.
Really dumb shit?? So thats why Norco pays Specialized to use there suspension design?? And the Demo is not a f*cking single pivot. It's not even close. This bike here is basically a cross between the Demo and the SX Trail w/ Norco touch.
by the way i'm not a fan of norco but this frame looks really nice. i only would change the color of the lettering. white lettering would look so much nicer than this trendy mint green
Ya you are a total Idiot, Demo FSR, Bighit FSR, and Norco VPS is all the same. Only difference is that the Demo attaches the shock to the chainstay when traditional FSR attaches the shock to the rocker arm. And Demo FSR is nothing like single pivot. Dont let pivot near the shock fool you. Its what holds the axel which is important, and the axel is not attached via a single pivot dude. http://i0.pinkbike.com/photo/806/pbpic806169.jpg
yeah, my bad. first of all i didn't say that s.demos have a single pivot system. i meant that it pulls the sock like a singlepivot system. 2nd, my bad at all cos i didn't notest the fsr link in the chainstay, is not that clear in this pict, n i thought that this frame had the stays welded together in the dropouts area with no linkage which would make it a new system totally difrent from fsr...i know that's stupid cos it not even would work, but i didn't think twice. but don't call me idiot jst cos i misunderstood the frame. piece
well your still an idiot, cause you didnt even need to look to understand the linkage, ALL NORCOS HAVE THE SAME LINKAGE.
Norco uses the VPS system baught from specialized because its what works the best. dont think for a minute that a big company dosnt have prototypes using every single suspension design possible. from single pivot to VPP they have definately built one.
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nothing like a demo, sx trail or giant. the sx trail and demo have much different shock leverage ratios because neither of them attach to the rocker link like FSR does. giant cove azonic are all copies of true vpp linkage(intense and santa cruz). they don't have the same rearward wheel path that vpp has. it's a cheap knock off and doens't work nearly as well.
That's the first really good looking NORCO I think I've seen.
As for the previous comments, Srecialized owns the patent on the FSR design. All the bike makers building frames with the true FSR suspension design, ALL pay Specialized to to use it. There are a LOT of copanies that do this.
All that arguing. . . who's winning? I can't tell. . .
As for the previous comments, Srecialized owns the patent on the FSR design. All the bike makers building frames with the true FSR suspension design, ALL pay Specialized to to use it. There are a LOT of copanies that do this.
All that arguing. . . who's winning? I can't tell. . .
i think that norco is gonna die out realy soon because they cant come up with a steady desighn i believe that they should use 7050 alloy because its 75% stronger then the 6061 and secondlythe monoques should never have been discontinued the trube frames are gay and alwqys changing atleast with monowue they had a consistant dsighn
monoque frames dented too easy, and every other bike company has been changing so they have to keep up, there still using the fsr design that they have always used, there just making there bikes stand out more, getting them out on the market again
Actually, 9.2 lbs is f*ckin' light for a full-travel DH frame. Most DH rigs are going to weigh at least 10 lbs, some weigh quite a bit more.
9.2 isn't that bad if that weight includes the fox...... although lighter would be better for me....
the the shock mount position looks sweet... i'm pretty much sold on this frame... hopefully the sell it just like it is....
looks like they are trying to make them smaller, like standover height cause most norcos are notorious for being big, even the small size frames
ok how is 7075 75% stronger than 6061, when the density is nearly the same, the elements which make up the alloy are i believe all within 1% the same, the tensile strength and elasticity are almost both the same as well. The only difference is I thinks its less difficult to weld 6061... but i hear the welds are often stronger.
woops, i should correct myself i am wrong on the alloy comment.... 7075 is much stronger, and more hard/brittle but i guess it doesn't matter as much when riding a DS... i think my numbers were for 7076. The more brittle the Al the more chance you have in cracking it on impact... which i have experienced on the top and down tubes on a number of my Al frames
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ya, that looks like a sweet norco frame, besides they just change the geometry of the frame to make it better. It has nothing to do with copying other brands.
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Sea Otter, California , United States
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Trail: Sea Otter 2007
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Description: 2008 Norco Shore frame set. Approx 9.2 lbs with rear shock.
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