why does everyone blindly hate on kona? yeesh.

well it started b/c they were pretty chunky, then they weren't as refined as boutique companies etc. Now i think people hate just hearing about them from people that don't know a lot about bikes. Honestly the first bike people usually hear about in the gravity sector is Kona.. so they get boners over them and yak about them all the time.

I know its obnoxious when people try to talk bikes and have no idea about companies like Intense, Turner, Yeti or even Santa Cruz.

Konas, like Norcos are solid bikes though maybe not 100% top shelf.. anyone that disagrees doesn't know what they are talking about.

the 2009 kona dj's r look really good

I have no complaints about kona's performance. Some of the bikes are a bit chunky but thats not a huge issue. The problem comes when they SNAP. Kona always brings out a new bike that changes my opinion, the new cowan hardtail for example. Looks good, feels great to ride, super light. Then a buddy of mine snapped one in half on a really gentle step-up case - he is smooth as hell anyway and had the frame for about a month.

So far i havent seen many problems with the cowan DS but i've seen the back ends of way too many stinkys completely f*ck up and way too many konas snap. Its enough to put me off anyway - thats just my opinion and experiences.

really !?!?! how could you f**k up the rear end of a kona mines beasty as hell,mind you mines from 2002,but still. Wth were they doing?

It's more like pro's wouldn't ride them if they weren't getting payed.... but yeah. The empire is looking way dialed

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FSR, frame surround rear shock, Exact same top and bottom tube shape-- totally the 08 SX Trail. But whatever, if it is sweet, it's sweet. Norco rips!

its because FSR suspension was designed and patented by norco and specialized s-works team several years ago. norco doesn't own the design but specialized allows them to use it on their products because of a partnership. the reason it looks like an sx-trail is because its the same dam suspension platform the curved top tube also doesn't give any justice to the fact that norco is supposed to be unique to their own. BUT on the other side of the story it is infact basically an sx trail and everybody loves sx-trails right? so y not redesign it, put a norco sticker on it and sell it as a cheeper more affordable build so those who dream to own an sx can now have one.

well put stpgeminirider, i have looked around for an all-around full suspension, and now its like Norco is handing it to me on a gold plater, if i can get the funds, i think i might buy it, and try to find some good trails around my area to ride, since there isnt too much.

if it have a pivotal seat it means it have a pivotal seat post.

maybe, but have you seen the bass? dude its sweet