no its not. the nicolai mpire uses that same thing its not that complicated if you look at it for a sec...

pretty much all that happens is the force from landing pulls the link on the bottom down compressing the shock. Looks complicated but its no worse than a demo

It's complicated in the way that it's got a dozen extra linkages to add weight to the frame, for NO reason.

Uh no it doesnt lol there is 4 link plates. Its a super simple design and in no way at all is this complicated.

I understand the suspension. And yes, it's mechanically simple. What I'm getting at, is it's needlessly complicating something as simple as a single pivot.

not complicated
but just adding on more links
more things to go wrong

I think you missed the point of what I said. Oh well.

yes but single pivot is a bad and very unefficient design.

And this is single pivot, just with activated linkages. The ONLY reason linkages like this would be employed is to change shock ratios, spring rates, center of gravity, and so on. This design is STILL as inefficient as any other single pivot. That's what I was getting at by saying it was overly complicated. From a mechanical standpoint, the suspension is obvious. No, you're not a genius because you figured out how it works, ANYONE can see how it works. It's complicated in the manner of added linkages without any real benefit. Understand what I mean yet?

Too bad that it does not have an ISCG or ISCG-05, this is the only thing that is wrong with the frame

more linkage= better and smoother leverage

lol nicolai, thats an example of your wrong

Not true at all, Mountainbiker4eva. More linkage means more friction between links, bearings, and so on. Leverage is arguable, but you don't need -that- many links to get a decent leverage ratio.

dude, you're good

Its just a selling point isnt it..

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/2326685/
same frame idea

Those links near the top of the seat post seem pointless to me. Sure they have a reason to be there, but to me seem nearly pointless. It looks like the rear triangle is connected at the bottom in the way of a single pivot, so why have the links above? I understand the links below however.

Probably to try and keep it stiff.

yup, they keep the to of the swing-arm from twisting and creating an inconsistent wheel path, among other things. check out foes, all of their bikes have the torsion link.

you're really far away form the single pivot.

from*

Not in the least. Notice how there's only one pivot connecting the main frame and the rear axle? That's the one that influences the wheel path, the braking dynamics, and the pedaling feedback.

there is no point to this craziness. it's just a manufacturers attempt to stand out from the crowd... it's so unneccessary.

i dot understand why everyone is calling this crazy
its been done before
and its not even crazy
its a nice looking frame
and i personally would ride it

This is a stupid design that will increase the weight, and lower the smoothness of the suspension's efficiency. All those linkages mean mechanical loss. It doesn't matter how many bearings you are using, they all make things work harder this or that way.
Also that last linkage that's connected to the shock doesnt seem very stiff. Remember some old sinky's shock rockers snapping?
Btw single pivots are good, unless you are using your brakes all the time.

well put! ^^ single pivots are the way to go, just make sure to have a floating brake arm

That is also one humongous allen wrench size on one of the pivits

that thing is outrageously complicated!

check out the websitehttp://www.macmahone.com australian bicycle design (love affair)

The same here, but nice frame!

yeah thats what i was thinking

and i love how the smallest bolt there holds th shock on!

and no ISCG either?

noob question i know
but whuts ISCG?

International Standard Chain Guide mounts, they're the bolt holes around the BB that hold chain guides on. Every bike over 4" should have one IMO.

that makes sence
i think on this bike
it would be hard to fit them

yup, too bad

ISCG has nothing to do with how much travel a bike has!! its just a way of stopping the chain device from sliding round every time you hit it, and not every dh bike has one its just common sence to have them as in DH you hit the chain device of crap every 5 seconds

yeah ive seen some bash gaurds now
which dont need them to be mounted
but i think i would want them

I know it has nothing to do with travel, I was basically saying every bike excpet XC bikes should have them now, for either chainguides or Hammerschmidt.

mpire guy..

oh yes sorry...i've done a mistake hehe...lambda 4 sure!

m pire...

definitely, this thing will not hold up

no it's not, it's a clusterphuck

http://www.macmahone.com/09/about-us

hhaa. Now thats a good question dude.
However its a beefy frame.. with skiny swing arm