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dmrgarry
(Sep 24, 2008 at 13:13)
thats insane, is it churtsey?
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i know how ya feel bud. it happens everywhere. prime suspects r lil kids who wanna do it but "make them smaller", more like pound them in to the ground cos they have no respect and cant do em.
Don't like it!!! Why are all these amazing jumps so far down south! I've seen some SICK lines being posted (like this one) and they are all in the South of the UK. Where the decent jumps up north? Please tell me, someone! ANYONE!
Amazing place, would love to come down for a ride.
Amazing place, would love to come down for a ride.
yeah i feel thats kinda true. up here we dont got anything. its all DH or bmx. there arent many places at all for DJ. local bikers build in some places but most of em get wrecked by posers who think they are fixing the jumps when they actually dont know how. they end up leaving it a pile of dirt.
Yeah but only a handful of mountain bikers can ride these trails. They are bmx trails. The locals will let a few of the DMR team ride there thats about it. Its fair enough as they are the ones who put in the effort and our suspension pushes up the lips and we chew up the jumps if we dont run slicks. Other sick places round here we're allowed to ride when we dig though. Petersfield.. wisley.. winchester.. yay for the south 
ya, if my area is missing jumps and trails i always bust out 2 shovels, one to make the sick lines and the other to beat the asses to death who f*ck with my creation
ridelikeyoustoleit what are you talking about
our suspension pushes up the lips ???
really ?
have you ever ridden chertsey?
your right about slicks though
our suspension pushes up the lips ???
really ?
have you ever ridden chertsey?
your right about slicks though
NO I haven't ridden Chertsey, and to be honest I've changed my opinion about our suspension pushing up lips.. I highly doubt that it does, was just listening to bmxers at the time.
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i didnt say the pick looks sketch i said u wudnt hit anything that looks sketchy read properly junior
he i know this is an odd question, but how tall are your dj's, im building some and love the size of yours, let me know thanks, amazing place by the way
Can anyone explain to me where these trails are in chertsy?
i go there quite often...not to ride, just to go chill with friends.
i go there quite often...not to ride, just to go chill with friends.
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Thats F--kin retarded. And not in a good way. You know what kind of soil erosion characteristics you just subjected that forest to? drainage problems? species die-off? infiltration rates? you pretty well destroyed a perfectly good ecosystem. You could have at least used scrubland for that kind of debauchery. Learn some ecology and land management... Next time you decide to do this, practice some terrestrial planning.
sjones10 your a canadian preaching to english people about destruction of ecosystems?? your country is the worlds largest exporter of timber. 90% of which is unsustainable frontier logging and clear cutting. you seem to know alot of long words that you learned out of an enviro science text book but do you know the meaning of the word hipocrisy?
very little has been destroyed here the trees are mostly still there only the undergrowth has been cleared if anything this would increase biodiversity??
i also dont understand how you can tell all that from a picture, have you done a survey of this relatively small flat plot of private land?
also its important to recognise this isnt ancient woodland so when you say "you pretty well destroyed a perfectly good ecosystem" thats not really true. this was not a mature ecosystme to begin with, woodland of this type flourishes with managemnet not dissimilar to whats gone on during the jump building process. eg thining out of invasive species like rhododendron. (having been to the jumps in question i know this has gone on.)
also you say "practice some terrestrial planning" which is pretty funny becuase the guys that built these trails are renowded for having heated debates about what to build .
very little has been destroyed here the trees are mostly still there only the undergrowth has been cleared if anything this would increase biodiversity??
i also dont understand how you can tell all that from a picture, have you done a survey of this relatively small flat plot of private land?
also its important to recognise this isnt ancient woodland so when you say "you pretty well destroyed a perfectly good ecosystem" thats not really true. this was not a mature ecosystme to begin with, woodland of this type flourishes with managemnet not dissimilar to whats gone on during the jump building process. eg thining out of invasive species like rhododendron. (having been to the jumps in question i know this has gone on.)
also you say "practice some terrestrial planning" which is pretty funny becuase the guys that built these trails are renowded for having heated debates about what to build .
I ignored social relevance here man. Whether or not i am canadian, i do not support canadian logging practices. Maybe you should look up the word hypocrisy, seeing as britain during the colonial years was responsible for clear cutting half of all old growth timber on the eastern seaboard, including completely wiping out every tree on Prince Edward Island for sailing masts by the 1700's. So we're all to blame on that matter. Lets not point fingers and claim who's worse.
Trees are not the most important function of the ecosystem, they are a small portion. The trees derive 30% of their water from the moist air (water is trapped in the air between the canopy and the ground by evaporative transpiration in leaves and plantlife). That function only occurs if the water is prevented from penetrating the soil and is partially if not completely dependent on some kind of root system to draw water from the soil into the air, just as while we breathe we also release moisture. However, this function i am not worried about. The part i am concerned with is the loss of soil. 90% of all soil erosion occurs when the land is stripped of its understorey. Soil is THE most important function of every ecosystem, excluding rainforests. And its not a matter of whether or not it is there, soil is not the only form of matter there, in includes; nutrients and nutrient transfer, seed beds and dormant seed banks, availability of water and water transfer, etc etc etc.
Trees are not the most important function of the ecosystem, they are a small portion. The trees derive 30% of their water from the moist air (water is trapped in the air between the canopy and the ground by evaporative transpiration in leaves and plantlife). That function only occurs if the water is prevented from penetrating the soil and is partially if not completely dependent on some kind of root system to draw water from the soil into the air, just as while we breathe we also release moisture. However, this function i am not worried about. The part i am concerned with is the loss of soil. 90% of all soil erosion occurs when the land is stripped of its understorey. Soil is THE most important function of every ecosystem, excluding rainforests. And its not a matter of whether or not it is there, soil is not the only form of matter there, in includes; nutrients and nutrient transfer, seed beds and dormant seed banks, availability of water and water transfer, etc etc etc.
And the invasive issue: We've screwed ourselves on that front, so whether or not it is invasive, i couldn't care less. Just as long as something is there to hold the soil in place. But yes, thinning of rhododendron is a good thing there, but having nothing at all on the soil is disastrous. Thank you for deciding to keep the trees in your "heated debates" but keep in mind they are a very small part of it all. Leaving those berms lower than the base of trees (depending on the species of tree), you could pool water in its root system and drown it completely, killing the trees. Placing grass seed on the unused portions of the jumps (sidewalls) will help hold the soil there. Shut down some sections in between the jumps and stagger their use, planting more seed (grass, bush, anything that grows fast) will help collect water and improve the air moisture regime as well as more importantly holding the soil there during rain wash events. If you would like to keep your jumps intact, try some kind of irrigation and actively remove the water from the site before it inundates the soil.
You should have another heated debate.
You should have another heated debate.
i dont build there im not local ive only been a couple of times i just think the place is awsome
britain did alot worse than that in the colonial period but then morality is socailly defined it was man against nature back then. all we did was win. lets bear in mind your talking about a time when slavery was still considered ok.
luckily i wasnt alive back then so im in no way responsible.
erosion is virtually non existant on a flat bit of land with clay content in the soil and canopy cover. i would do more environmental damage driving the 15 miles each way to get there than they would have done by building the jumps.
britain did alot worse than that in the colonial period but then morality is socailly defined it was man against nature back then. all we did was win. lets bear in mind your talking about a time when slavery was still considered ok.
luckily i wasnt alive back then so im in no way responsible.
erosion is virtually non existant on a flat bit of land with clay content in the soil and canopy cover. i would do more environmental damage driving the 15 miles each way to get there than they would have done by building the jumps.
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chertsey, United Kingdom
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Date: 2008-09-24
Trail: Chertsey
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