who knows at interweb in Whistler, British Columbia, Canada - photo by avery25

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dirteveryday (Jan 9, 2009 at 6:57)

EVERYTHING breaks. It's only metal, and no one ever said metal doesn't break! I love when people get all frizzed when they see something in two pieces...

Here's a quick lesson for you guys with the bikes you think are indestructible or that you'll be riding the same frame for the next 5-10 years: Aluminum starts failing the very SECOND it leaves the extrusion die. It will continue self-hardening over the years until it beomes brittle and then breaks. Heat treating has nothing to do with it or for it...it simply speeds up the hardening process so it can be sold. There are techniques and stranger materials for higher prices, but they simply prolong the inevitable frame failure.
Moral of the story? Ride your bike for a year or two and unload it. It wasn't meant to last forever. And don't laugh at the guy with a broken frame...yours is probably next.

avery25 (Jan 9, 2009 at 16:26)

i realize this, i jut get tired of people talking about how every kona ever made has sanpped in half.

Ipoddragon (Jan 9, 2009 at 19:15)

dun dun dun

chamberscycles (Jan 11, 2009 at 19:05)

hahahahahaha

andyjacko123 (Jan 22, 2009 at 12:46) (Below Threshold) show comment

my 222 is 2001.... not breaking any time soon Razz

yetiman303 (Jan 29, 2009 at 19:25)

Yet to see a cove bust apart!!!

avery25 (Feb 9, 2009 at 20:04)

true that!

z-man (Mar 29, 2009 at 18:55)

i demolished a 08 session 10 (once thought indestructible) in 10 months....

rolto1822 (Apr 6, 2009 at 18:13)

andyjacko123 - have a look at this and guess what bike it is: http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/2167211/

yetiman303 you actually have a point. though to be fair they are a pretty small company and so a lot less people own them = lower chance of a breakage

scotteh (Jun 14, 2009 at 11:10)

z-man what happened to your session?

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dirteveryday (Jan 10, 2009 at 4:29)

You see more Konas broke...because MORE PEOPLE ride Konas than any other bike! It's the sheer numbers thing, has nothing to do with being junk or anything else stupid like that. You;ll never find 700 broken Knolly frames because they don't sell that many bikes! Imagine how many Konas are sold each year to see one broken every other month or so??? I'd say they're doing OK!
Don't sweat it Avery! Ride your bike for a bit longer then buy a new one, seems like it's treating you just fine! But might I suggest a Mongoose Khyber your next go-round? Smile

avery25 (Jan 10, 2009 at 9:08)

yeah? is that what you're riding now??

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Folzy (Jan 8, 2009 at 19:25)

thats kinda funny even thogh i likee konas Smile

ridedabrodie (Jan 27, 2009 at 5:34)

LOL this pic is good.

evilsmx (Jun 21, 2009 at 16:29)

i like konas and i dont even have one

Folzy (Jun 21, 2009 at 22:00)

yeah, konas are pretty tight

evilsmx (Jun 22, 2009 at 9:31)

they are, and i hear that they also handel pretty good especially the new stinky supreme

Folzy (Jun 22, 2009 at 22:53)

yeah i like my stuff

xxPINXxxDH4EVAxx (Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33)

the newa kona's are not as good i got told

Folzy (Jun 24, 2009 at 16:10)

yeah i think my 08 stuff is decent but the 09's look a little crappy.

ben-24 (Jul 8, 2009 at 6:48)

shit geo though
on the stuffs and shreds

kjmkjm (Aug 24, 2009 at 12:36)

09 stinky handle like beasts and i hate k0nas

DHelz (Dec 3, 2009 at 13:48)

i love my 08 kona shred, handles lush and rides smooth aswell

dhmatty (Dec 4, 2009 at 7:59)

i think the 04 kona bikes were the best tup

santacruz-syndicate (Dec 15, 2009 at 13:18)

shit, i have that bike

Folzy (Dec 15, 2009 at 16:23)

haha

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Gravity720 (Jan 8, 2009 at 20:35)

this brings tears to my eyes Frown

zanginator (Jan 10, 2009 at 12:42)

Same comencials just rule...and to see one like this sadens me.

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AJ26 (May 5, 2009 at 4:07)

b-free is soo true bout the people ridin more Konas lol, theyre popular as f*ck, n good lookin Razz

, they ride plush as f*ck Razz

n no design is perfect... but they are wikid bikes for there price

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mayhemsport (Jan 9, 2009 at 5:06)

This is the first version of the 07 dh frame that didt have the reinforced head tube. they changed it in 07. Ang al the customers that broke theirs got the new reinforced one. It whas only a foulty on the welding. But it got fixed. Konas break even though they dont have anything wrong with them.

avery25 (Jan 9, 2009 at 6:07)

you know, this isnt an attack on commencal, i couldve used a number of different broken bikes, like specialized, giant, intense, santa cruz.

SAVAGE-RIDER (Jan 9, 2009 at 13:22)

Yeah if you lived through snapping your head tube off the bike which would be a nasty crash,you'd get a replacement.

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ajax-ripper (Feb 3, 2010 at 21:50)

I also like how when this happened comencal sent him not one but two new frames and recalled every supreme DH with a hydroformed top tube. lets see kona do that?

avery25 (Feb 4, 2010 at 18:36)

it still broke

ajax-ripper (Feb 4, 2010 at 19:47)

it was still the only commencal to brake in Canada out of the 5000 sold vs. the 190 out of 6000 stinkies that were sold.

avery25 (Feb 4, 2010 at 19:53)

where are you getting your information? and btw, i could have done this with lots of other things, p.3 back ends, norco rear triangles, intense pivot welds, devince chainstays... this list goes on

ajax-ripper (Feb 4, 2010 at 21:19)

I read the thread on PB when it happened and followed it until commencal replaced it. if i remember correctly he only hit a bump when it happened.

avery25 (Feb 4, 2010 at 21:31)

i dont care that they replaced it, it still broke on a bump. but thats not the point.

ajax-ripper (Feb 4, 2010 at 22:00)

Compared to My friends sticky that broke after 2 weeks hitting a curb. Commencal made a design flaw by using a poor quality hydroformed joint. they replaced EVERY defective frame with a reinforced model.

avery25 (Feb 4, 2010 at 22:01)

dude, thats cool, but once again, its not the point at all.

ajax-ripper (Feb 4, 2010 at 22:02)

The statistics still show that kona's do have the highest failure rate and commencal has one of the lowest.

avery25 (Feb 4, 2010 at 22:04)

thats bullshit and a half. where the hell are you getting your figures?

ajax-ripper (Feb 4, 2010 at 22:22)

I live next door to the kona rep. who infact rides a quake. That in its self should be evidence enough that kona is sub-par.

I am done here I clearly offended you and i apologize for that.

avery25 (Feb 4, 2010 at 22:24)

and the guys that lives across the street from me is a porsche dealer owner and he drives a benz...cool story, bro...how many times do i have to say this "dude, thats cool but its not the point" This is just against people who talk too much shit and jump on the bandwagon. I have had 3 konas, one of them for 3 hard seasons of whistler, harsh cases and me beating the shit out of it in general, and it is completely fine.

sharkandsheep (Oct 16, 2010 at 13:42)

Fight about it!!

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philipstonier (May 30, 2009 at 20:32)

well every bike company will have some bikes that are defected due to bad welds or fabrication, its just well kona bikes brake more so than others haha

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afro-99 (Sep 4, 2009 at 7:25)

omg omg
pogo stick
jam your foot beetween your crown and your tire anp hop Beer

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TheGuyWhoLikes2Bike (Dec 28, 2009 at 19:48)

WOW! i don't think the Atherton's would be to proud to be sponsored by Commencal

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Superflybiker18 (May 17, 2009 at 0:36)

awwww f*ck you hahahahaha

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freeride-maverick (Jan 13, 2009 at 10:44)

how the hell can you break a supreme??!! its near impossible Smile

stryke Plus (Jan 26, 2009 at 12:15)

the old style commencals were insanely weak around the headtube/dropout area. fixed for 09 though

edd-stevens (Aug 21, 2010 at 15:33)

The 09's are/were as bad as any bro.

stryke Plus (Aug 21, 2010 at 15:40)

the 09s were pretty random actually

edd-stevens (Aug 21, 2010 at 15:45)

But they cracked right?

stryke Plus (Aug 21, 2010 at 15:48)

but not around the headtube area, or dropouts after the v2 swingarm was made

edd-stevens (Aug 21, 2010 at 15:50)

But they cracked right?

stryke Plus (Aug 21, 2010 at 16:03)

black lines did form around some areas on some bikes

edd-stevens (Aug 21, 2010 at 16:06)

Didnt your buddies crack everywhere? :/

stryke Plus (Aug 21, 2010 at 16:09)

some black lines did appear

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racinggreenmachine (Feb 10, 2009 at 13:20)

my friends cracked at the headtube he was gutted

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grayson101 (Dec 31, 2009 at 11:36)

f*** you

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mrmountainbike (Feb 17, 2009 at 15:54)

now im paranoid about my kona...

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amando96 (Mar 14, 2009 at 14:45)

this would fit the stereotype thread lol

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LoveBigHit (Jan 10, 2009 at 12:35)

if this was my bike i would be crying right now....

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mayhemsport (Jan 9, 2009 at 9:56)

Good one

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dillonchamberlain (Jan 8, 2009 at 19:25)

HA!

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jeffrupert (Jan 9, 2009 at 17:25)

how???

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p2person (Jan 9, 2009 at 16:51)

hahahahaha thats good nice one!

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Ipoddragon (Jan 9, 2009 at 19:14)

What did you do?

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Whoinventeduphill (Feb 9, 2009 at 20:03)

Mine broke at the drop outs.

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Dan-Smith (Jan 13, 2009 at 10:52)

iv just bought 1 haha

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kij312 (Jan 13, 2009 at 5:55)

IT'S TOO NORMAL

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Transition36 (Jan 9, 2009 at 18:47)

http://www.youtube.com/v/_AZpEDRbwvE

avery25 (Jan 9, 2009 at 18:56)

a third of those were peice of shit $500 konas, another third of them were broken forks ON konas, and the other third was that that same clip played twice.

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rolto1822 (Apr 6, 2009 at 18:14)

yup. two of them are 06 stinkys with bent rocker plates (which were replaced free of charge, they machined them too much) and theres a livewire and the video clip which are both REALLY old bikes!

rolto1822 (Apr 6, 2009 at 18:16)

yup. two of them are 06 stinkys with bent rocker plates (which were replaced free of charge, they machined them too much) and theres a livewire and the video clip which are both REALLY old bikes!

Brett13 (Aug 21, 2010 at 15:53)

None of those bikes were later than 07 every one of those bikes have been changed now

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rolto1822 (Apr 6, 2009 at 18:17)

UGH pinkbike put this reply in the wrong place sorry :S lol

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darkelement (Jan 8, 2009 at 20:05)

LOLZ

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tacobell123 (Jan 8, 2009 at 20:29)

u ride a kona?

avery25 (Jan 8, 2009 at 20:30)

yes

tacobell123 (Jan 8, 2009 at 20:30) (Below Threshold) show comment

he he

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odin333 (Jan 9, 2009 at 13:25)

PHOTOSHOPPED! ?sdxsdasd a

kevman866 (Oct 13, 2009 at 18:08)

the border is...

odin333 (Oct 14, 2009 at 12:17)

yeah i was just joking Razz

. I don't care much for Commencal anyway, but tons of the kids here swear by them and will get insanely defensive when they see this.

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giantrider2 (Jan 27, 2009 at 19:05)

thats a first. they're taking kona's reputation!

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