New 36's lowered to 140mm. On the current build. Needs to be weighed soon.

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flag odin333 (Jun 27, 2009 at 12:19)
i like it.
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flag odin333 (Jun 27, 2009 at 14:33)
why not run an LG-1 with Taco though?
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flag dh-pete (Jun 27, 2009 at 14:57)
I'm on minimum wage dude. I need to replace the parts that offer the best gram to £ ratio first.

That and of course, I'm anti Taco bash. The things are a danger to your frame, I'm just going to tune a SRS+ to work properly with SLX's. Or hope e*thirteen makes a new, revised bash for Shimano Saint and SLX cranks.
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flag odin333 (Jun 27, 2009 at 15:24)
ah, whats wrong with Taco's and frames though?
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flag jammyboy366 (Jun 27, 2009 at 15:31)
What's up with SRS+ and Saint cranks?
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flag dh-pete (Jun 27, 2009 at 15:51)
Odin: I just don't like the idea of it, I've seen too many bent ISCG tabs from Taco guards for my liking and I don't think of the guide as highly as a bashguard style guide.

Jammyboy: e*thirteen made the bashguard featured on the new SRS+ tapered in both directions. And Shimano's new Saint and SLX cranks featured new thicker chainring mounting tabs so that they could take more abuse. Anyway, the thicker tabs pushes the bashguard further away, and the taper means the bash has enough room for the chain to fall off between it. Making the chainguide not do it's job.

My STP guide has never dropped a chain, it's taken many, many hits and it's still strong. I've even tuned the backplate and bits down to 60 something grams and it's still just as good as when I first got it.
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flag jammyboy366 (Jun 27, 2009 at 15:56)
I was stumped at first, and with a G-Ring you are correct, but I found that an old Middleburn I had when run backwards made the chainring closer to the bash, and therefore do it's job. It did take me a couple of days to get it right though lol

Pity is, I will be swapping my TurboCharger out for a SuperCharger, as e*13 have basically made the new ring a disposable part Frown
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flag dh-pete (Jun 27, 2009 at 16:10)
I'm not running a middleburn ring! They're more than 20g heavier than a G-ring. lol.

I wouldn't give up on your Turbocharger just yet. Grab the pliers and reform it. That's what I'll be doing if/when mine gets dented.
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flag jammyboy366 (Jun 27, 2009 at 16:19)
Haha! I weighed this one and it was 87, so quite a bit extra I admit, but I am sure there are others out there which would be compatable, this is just one I had lying about.

I am a bit pissed though, I will try that, but it is basically disposable, and for the price you pay it really shouldn't be Frown

Fair enough if it dented after a big hit or case, but no, I hardly noticed it, something that you shouldn't have to think about.
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flag jammyboy366 (Jun 27, 2009 at 12:23)
Very very nice!
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flag Kazzatron (Jun 27, 2009 at 12:24)
Nice.. water feature?
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flag hobbnobs (Jun 27, 2009 at 13:07)
new frame and lighter wheels??
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flag dh-pete (Jun 27, 2009 at 13:10)
Soon... The frame isn't released yet (will be sometime in august) and wheels will come after the frame. I want to be on a full suss as soon as possible.
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flag ben-24 (Jun 27, 2009 at 13:19)
thats realy nice
what frame you gettin ?
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flag dh-pete (Jun 27, 2009 at 13:21)
2010 Giant Reign X
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flag downhillpete (Jun 27, 2009 at 13:55)
yummy i still love my reign frame Razz
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flag dh-pete (Jun 27, 2009 at 14:17)
I love the Reign series, they feel amazing. But being a weenie I'm waiting for the new one so I save 2 pounds on the frame weight.
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flag downhillpete (Jun 27, 2009 at 21:45)
Sweet, how much are they goin to retail at ?
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flag dh-pete (Jun 28, 2009 at 13:14)
No idea just yet. Expect about a 10% increase in price, though.
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flag downhillpete (Jun 29, 2009 at 11:57)
yeah, i was speaking to my local giant dealer today and he was saying that the new 2010 range of giants were going to be alot more expensive compared to the 09 range
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flag unclemofo (Jun 28, 2009 at 12:42)
Is the bashguard necessary on the hardtail? Surely it never goes to close to the ground?
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flag dh-pete (Jun 28, 2009 at 13:16)
Well, I hit it twice today. So It's quite necessary. I have considered taking it off but I don't think it'd end good.
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flag timbercombe (Jun 29, 2009 at 14:22)
What about running a Gamut guide eventually as the bash's a lot lighter than a supercharger, yet they're not made of cheese?
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flag dh-pete (Jun 29, 2009 at 14:28)
It's more than likely that I'll just run an e*thirteen SRS+ backplate (tuned if possible) and I'll use a Gamut bashguard if the e*thirteen either breaks or doesn't keep the chain on.

I'm impressed by Gamut how they've got lighter than e*thirteen with their new chainrings. Even if it is only 1 gram lighter for my chainring size.
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flag timbercombe (Jun 29, 2009 at 14:35)
That sounds a good plan, should look sick on a new Reign frame.
Likewise, I'm very impressed with Gamut, although not revolutionary, they do what they do very well, no signs of stress marks on my bash or cracking, just a few dents in the plastic from doing it's job, and I've no doubt the ring'll be just as good, if it does last longer than E*13 then they'll be onto a winner!
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flag dh-pete (Jun 29, 2009 at 14:50)
They didn't get a great view from the guys at MBUK. But with their reputation I wouldn't rule out it being their fault for improper installation. The P30 (last years) that was reviewed supposedly dropped the chain quite regularly.

My e*thirteen bash has been through a hell of a lot of hits. It's got nothing but a few dents and scrapes.

I don't tend to worry about how long a chainring lasts. It's how they wear the chain that effects me. Chainrings should be changed on every second change of your chain & cassette. Sometimes earlier if you overdo the chainwear and go well past 1.0 on a chain wear gauge.
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flag timbercombe (Jun 29, 2009 at 15:14)
Surprised at that, but don't have personal experience other than bash, mind you not wanting to cause offence but I gave up with MBUK trash years ago, DIRT seem to rate them. Horses for courses etc.
I know chain/cassette last half that of rings, why are you concerned with how it wears the chain though? The rate of wear and thus high rate = more changes or...?Cheers
BTW really nice spec, some new wheels (sounds like they're in the works anyway) as well as the frame and you'll be sorted!
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flag dh-pete (Jun 29, 2009 at 15:38)
I'm concerned on how fast it wears the chain because the cost of a chain and cassette is rather high. I don't like the idea of saving a few grammes if it halves my chain life and thus costs me nearly twice as much.

Yes, new wheels are in the works. Crossmax SX are the winners so far. And I'm just waiting on the frame to be released at the moment.
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flag timbercombe (Jun 29, 2009 at 16:03)
Valid point, not a real weight weenie Wink Nah just kidding, sounds a good thought process and if the guides/chain rings aren't great better off without! We'll have to wait and see!

Mmm Crossmax SX are very very nice wheels, really like them, but non-trade price on them is far higher than any wheelset I can afford, so settled with my 823/IIs.
Not long to wait, few month's and you should be set, I'm getting rid of my Reign X as it's weighty/too much bike for me realistically, but the new one's should be great.
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flag dh-pete (Jun 29, 2009 at 16:22)
Ugh, Crossmax SX aren't exactly cheap for a trade price wheel ether. I could get an I9 set for about the same price and even the new Crankbrothers wheels. But the 721 is a solid rim and I trust it more than the others. So Crossmax wheels will do.

August is the release date. No exact point but I'm sure I'll check the Giant website everyday and keep my eyes peeled. The old Reign X is slightly overweight, but not obscenely. It's still about a 9 pound frame that can take more of a beating than some of the weight weenie downhill bikes (I.E Session 88, Liteville 901 etc.). Yet the Reign X is capable of riding back up and taking you to the tracks too.

Although, if the travel is too much, then I can see your point. Realistically most of the UK only really needs a 7 inch downhill bike. And when you're simply a weekend warrior a burly AM/FR bike is much more sensible.
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