I don't think it's ment to be a drag race.

They don't mean to race, I know, but they're still driving a car.

thanks for pointing that out captain obvious.

captain obvious

Lol. Come on guys! You do ride bikes don't you? Comfort does not mean nothing to me if by that you mean you gonna get just as fat and you won't be able to get any because of your condition. Oh, sorry, I forgot you said you wanted to save time. So what are you gonna do with it, may I ask? For me is not so more going from A to B but traveling itself. Please do note that when you ride your bike it is also possible to go from A to X, which is the unknown and is far more exciting. So you guys want to expend a fortune just to get fat and dull? Just do it. A good performing body is free of charge though. I am not very strong, but I refuse being a f*ggot.

i cant even drive but i like the look of cars.

I'll give u that, but a bike is far more beautifull. I used to drive a lot as a kid, but I've just grown out of it (I am a grown up now).

most people tell me to grow up and buy a car.

Same as me dude. They think I haven't got a car because I haven't got the money for it, but they never ask me how much I do actually expend on bike's stuff every year. Who cares what they say any way.

just one thing, X is a variable and A and B arent? imo, B is just as exciting as X.

It is rather the other way around. "A" and "B" are variables of "X" whereas "X" is the unknown proper (you cannot call "X" a variable if you don't know its value). Places still to discover are far more exciting than the ones you already know,so "A" and "B" cannot be just as exciting as "X" can it? This mathematical rule will imply traveling is far more exiciting too when you don't know where you're actually heading for. Please do note that the evidence this mathematical rule brings forward lies boundaries in between the "traveler/adventurer" and mere "tourists", who are usually willing to come back home from the very same moment they step into unchartered territories. Moreover, the traveler/adventurer might not be willing to return home after all as he tends to blend in where he doesn't belong. What are you?

B can be an unknown...

No it can't as it has a given a value: "B" can only be a variable of X. Take for example the following rule. P ¬ Q where ¬ is a casual conector in between P and Q. This mathematical axiom only states that whenever P takes place, Q will follow. As it stands, this axiom is only a general statement about likely events. Here both P and Q are mathematical "unknowns". P and Q could become valiables though, but only if you put content in it. The statement "if it rains the pavement will get wet" can be translated into variables in that axiom so that it can tell us something about something (in this case that if it rains it will all get wet). The letters in the statement R ¬ W, where R stands for "it rains" and W for "it is wet", can therefore be taken as variables in P ¬ Q.

lol,
internet fight is always like that!

its pinkbike and normal.

If all they can do is to prop me down, yes this is a fight and I've won it. I am still waiting for someone to prove me wrong.

if i knew wtf you guys were talking about i would be of some assistance :S

The point is, if you drive, you're an....

granted cars now a days are used for all the wrong reasons but there still fun.

"yes this is a fight and I've won it"

It's funny that you actually take the internet this seriously. Want a metal dude?

Ye. Throw some Zinc over my way.

Sorry guys, I do admit to it: I am a philosophy teacher (what can I say?).

Well, here's a lesson for you; let it go.

You're probably right: nothing is that important is it?

But it is true the're still driving cars are they not?

Dude. Stop.

Can I just say...?

sorry to bring this back up but....

smecka you are wrong as what erik74 said that b is just as unknown as x as b is a variable. if B isn't a variable tell me what b is for that matter or in fact tell me what a is or c or d or e or f or g etc... it is a figure of speech it could have just as easily been "As long as it gets me from A to X or C to D or X to Y it really doesn't matter what letter you choose...

here we go again -_-

sorry guys couldn't help myself...

Sorry guys, but you can't be for real can you? I am a professional philosopher (by this I mean I've got a degree and all): you simply don't stand a cat in a hell's chance of proving me wrong. The difference in between a mathematical unknown and a variable is whether you actually know its value or not. Mathematical unknowns do usually appear on axioms whereas variables do rather belong in the calculus or reckoning of numbers itself. "B" cannot be an unknown just because we know what its value is. In this case it stands for "Barcelona". So going from A to B, means going from Aberdeen to Barcelona, which is kind of a nice trip isn't it? Did you guys know that Barcelona is probably one of the coolest of Europe’s slums to ride your bike in? The reason we say it is either "A" or "B" when we work their values out is to shorten it up a bit so that it won't take as much space as you put them down on a piece of paper. You guys think you still want to come in for more? I am only asking out of curiosity: I am amused now.

You'd think a philosopher of all people would realize that a title is moot compared to what's being said. Don't flaunt it, because it'll come back and bite you in the ass.

A variable is a variable, it doesn't matter what it's representation is. I learned that in grade school.

Yo Smeckma, i was looking in the dictionary right, and i saw your name? it was a cool dictionary with pictures, but all i was seeing was cock in arse situations for a whole page below you.

Hey Smeckma. Thanks for the story. But, I don't give a shit.

That is right, a variable is a variable with no regards to what its representation might turn out to be, but the difference in between X and B is still like I am saying. BTW, do you guys mean like we can't make friends instead? I can see you guys have a bee in your bonnet about it.

And this is all getting rather extensive if only for a matter which nobody really cares about, I am affraid.

It's getting extensive because you keep going on even when you're flat out wrong.

Stop forcing in the last word, because I think EVERYONE in this conversation is sick of hearing it.

no need for the hate muttley and timlake...

If I am wrong say why. And it is not me: it seems like it is you guys coming back for more and me having this ball.

Basically, you are wrong, we are right, if you carry on, we will get in a fight.

Good night.



See what i did there?

No dude, I am right, you're wrong and I do refuse to fight you.

The only thing I am wrong about is I said "f*ggot" (I do appologize for this), but for the rest, I am dam right.

Nice warhammer

pfffttt LMFAOOOO

so do you like the new sls then.

ye its sick!!

I really hate people like smeckma though.
I actually asked my maths teacher about this at school today who has been teching the subject for 50 or so years and is well respected teacher in our area and head of dept.
And basically he agrees with me...

smeckma is a good man,he just has an opinion.

fair enuff everyone is entitled to that but why he has to start this argument (I apologise for continuing it) on your photos almost all your photos actually i don't get...

just cars he is against,and in a certain way i agree the whole planet has got lazy,the industrial estate in my town is about 10 minutes bike ride from my house,20 minutes tops for the people who live on the outskirts to the other end of the industrial estate,do they bike do they buggers like the lazy fecks.


i think hand on heart this is the people smeckma is against and i would have to say i am too.

ye definatly especially the ones with the big ass range rovers etc. i am against this as well but being in the country i have not much choice but to get a lift in the car to get to places as the closest town is 2 hours by foot and on my Dh bike (my only bike) about 2 hours lol so really i feel i have an excuse... although i do try and walk to the villages where my friends live around me cuz they are close enough to walk to like a couple of miles or whatever.

But ye cars can make you lazy but also like bikes, they can be a lot of fun as a sport although he probably sees it as ruining the earth with unneccessary carbon emissions and such like but it is serious fun and they look sick as well.

Come to Canada and ride though a blizzard to work and then say it's the lazy way out to drive.

Cars are great for the economy, and not always bad for the earth. We just need to modify the way they're run as they're not efficient now.

see in canada your winter is like 20 times worse than ours so on that par i would have to agree,but for the sake of 10 minutes tops cycling to work would help the enviroment and the rider get fitter,most traffic jams in our area are around when factories close get them on bikes and theres less traffic jams too.

the world and technology has eveolved to much for people to walk when they have to go somehwere

Of course I do care about the environment, but this is not where I am coming from. The only two things I do care in this life are "pleasure" and "comfort". Many people think comfort has plenty to do with having pots of money, but "comfort" could mean a "good performing body" as well. If you feel ok with your body and no pain is causing grieve, then you are a happy person with no regards to how much money you might have in the bank. This is not to say money is not important, as you will probably need some to pay for tuition fees, food and the like, but just that there are other ways. Some times people get mad at me when I say these things. I remember one lady who said to me in one occasion she would give up on happiness as a whole if "being happy" meant she had to go through what I wanted her to; but the point is, if you are happy, what do you care?

You tell us a lot about yourself that I don't think anyone really wants to hear.

"Opinions are like a*sholes. We all have one and no-one wants to see it."

This is not an opinion (I am lecturing you). And about seeing somebody else's a*shole, just speak for yourself.

Dude. I've never come across anyone as much of a twat as you. You really do give douchebag a whole new meaning.
No-one gives a shit about you being a philosopher or whatever you are. I could care f*cking less. All you are seeming to be he is an arrogant c*nt.
'You can't prove me wrong because I'm a philosopher' Well surely you'd have learned to grow the f*ck up and stop being such a big headed f*ckbag.

smeckma its super cool that you are a grown man and play with warhammer.

Hey Timlake: do you know about the meaning "democracy" and "freedom of speech"? Are you a Taliban or something? Moreover, what's all the offensive language for?

Yes, I do know about them. What do you think I am, a 5 year old? Oh wait, that would make me the same as you.
I never said you can't speak, so I don't know where the f*ck you got 'freedom of speech from'. Trying to go all 'I'm a philosopher and I know more than you' on me?
Oh, by the way, "are you a Taliban or something" doesn't make sense...

YO SMECKMA, YOUR ARROGANCE ASTOUNDS ME k

its not arrogance its just a different take on life,when you get to smeckmas age and dare i say it mine maybe it will make sense.

im happy because i get to ride (weather permitting) and i have great family,money can make you happy but it will never buy you contentment.

thats my philosophy shite over and done with.

Does smeckma even have a job? i mean what does a philosopher do for a living, sit in the park and look eccentric?

Marquis, no matter how you look at it, there is no excuse for arrogance,

is arrogance similar to someone being full of themselves.?

ok i admit im not a big word person.

So PB appoints mods who dont understand Basic english.

Oh right, ok.

at 16 words are fresh in your mind give it a few years young fella.

Ok, I got messaged into this
It's great to have different opinions and it's great to debate as long as you don't take things personally. If someone wants to debate I hope they are able to say at one point, oh actually I get your point now, and I was wrong and now I agree with your point of view. That's a really hard thing to do.
The worst is, snipe personal comments at those who are making a point. If someone does that, they should forfeit the argument because they just choose the lower road.

What is the argument about? cars? Why are they good or bad?

So what does a philosopher do for money? We usually teach at universities and schools. Am I an arrogant? I might as well be, but only when I come up against opposition or unfairness. I honestly believe I have a good heart. Proof of this can be found in this thread when I do apologize for using inappropriate language to get a point across.

BTW, what's with my age? I am only kidding, but it is true I am only a bit older than Steve Peat; and everybody knows he is no mean feat either.

I totally wanna argue about something damn it! Really. This looks like a bunch of good dudes in this thread, and I want to talk about something.
How about this? Should I feel bad that I ride my ktm 525 moto on trails when I should be riding my mtb. I keep hearing that motos pollute more than cars (don't know if thats true actually).
But I just can't help it it's so much fun to me. We can't always do the right thing. If we try to argue that, we can just say that instead of anything that we do for ourselves we could be working those hours to make and then give away money to society and starving children.

Best time I had in my life was when I was living in Morocco (for six years). They're just so rich you wouldn't believe it. Food is gorgeous and people are very friendly and talkative. I used to wake up late in the morning, then head for the Spanish school where I was teaching (A levels), and after everything was done, go down to a local café I was familiar with to sing a couple of songs with some friends and be naughty. I used to live by the sea, and I still remember those brawny old fishermen (no spring chickens they were, most of them well past their 60s) doing their nets ashore and making fun of us foreign youngsters because of our chronic tiredness. One day I came up and asked one of them whether they would never get tired doing what they were doing, but only for one of them to stand up and reply: "what are you saying, I am only 75, that is, a man in his prime: you come a little bit closer son and I'll wipe your nose". For me it is not like I've given up on cars as if I had made a decision on it, but rather, that I've found myself doing what I am doing and wondering how I came into it. When I came over to the UK, five years ago, it was a little bit like I was all broke and I needed something to get me around town, so I bought myself a bike. Then I got fit, then I did improve, and then better and better; and then it was like I was riding my bike all over the whole mountain and breaking them too. All food I eat is spot on and my body hurts because of how active I am, but this is a good pain (I reckon) and I feel pretty comfortable with it. Not that I've got pots of money now, but I am very well to do, so to speak, and I could pretty much afford a car for myself. But what for? I am sorry I have to say this: but I don't want to give up on feeling good with myself (nor on all the women there is, speaking of which, do love me so). This comfort I shall never give up on. I swear it.

not sure how moto could polute more than a car,maybe they think moto do more damage to the actual trail.

and i honestly never knew you could type that much on a pic.

I think this thread is so good just because we are going on about what we really want and what we like best doing, which is riding a bike. If you want to unsubscribe though, best thing to do is you don't click back on it and forget completely all about it.

its a debate without the actual crap that usually comes from discussions.

in canada/usa they are lucky as they have wide open land that needs exploring,we have the odd old work place thats been flattened,love the bit with the moto in seasons or was it roam.

This doesn't have the usual crap? Like flaming, arrogance, post whoring and someone beating a dead horse?

Check, check, check, and check,

marquis: I heard that in the UK they are going to fully ban offroad dirt biking. It's a shame because it's has been such a big country in that sport.
I do have to do some research but I the thinking is that they have no emissions control on the dirt bikes.

For me it is rather the damage being caused to the body, and not so more done to the environment (not that this isn't important). About off-road mountain biking being banned in the UK, I think we coming to it. In my local spot, they've put walls and other obstacles to prevent downhill riders from damaging the surroundings (this is what they say), but it is true it is impossible to fight against Mother Nature. Have you guys seen that documentary about all humans dying and all plants taking over from us? They say it would take like 5 years or something for plants to conquer the world, so I don't know what it is they're going on about, really.

I only got into moto a couple of years ago. Never even rode a motorcycle before that. Of course we saw dirtbikers at our mountian riding the fire road and we always looked down on them and thought what abunch of lazy asses they were for having a "motor". Then I did my first enduro race...4 hours later, it was the hardest thing from a physical, cardion, and endurance thing i ever did...and i raced XC back in the day. Those that have not done the enduro moto before you would understand, but coming from me, an mtb guy like you, dont make the mistake at dismissing it as non active. It's actually much more demanding than mtb. Think about this...a DH run 5 minutes of going fast and working your bike the whole time. Your whole body is working, and you're spent. An enturo race...3 hours...non stop, and it's basically a DH run the whole time. Just another point of view. I respect both sports now.

ah its the dreaded ramblers striking again,i just thought we do have some wide open spaces but there all protected.

the ramblers are even trying to stop mtb using this land as according to ramblers we rape the land.

best laugh is theres a local wood not far from me and bikes are banned,yet horses are allowed,anyway theres a puddle on the walkway and all of the ramblers have wlaked round it,turning a small 8 inch wide puddle into an 8 foot wide mud fest.


an mtber would have just rode through the puddle.

o hai. nice cars

Badass cars if you ask me. Merc has it down.

BTW, if it is obvious what I am saying, I mean, down to common sense, so to speak, why is it you guys are critizising me so? Someone said I was captain obvious; am I not?

What it is obvious Smeckma is that Marquis likes them cars like you like your bike: it really is as simple as that.

are you arguing with yourself.

Kind of. I personally wouldn't drive a car (I am not a handicapped person; meaning, I can actually walk and run), but all of this sounds way too pretentious and I am not what I am all cracked up to be. It all started as a joke, but in the end I was kind of pushing it down on you guys, and this is where I am getting it wrong. Different people will have different lives and, therefore, different experiences in life; but everybody's got it in him in a way.

why would you not drive a car? simple reasoning please.

The world tastes better when you can look at it through different lenses, but again, information is something you deserve; that is, something you actively look for, not something you push down on other people. I know why I wouldn't drive a car (I just like the whole Jedi thing about it, not getting old and diving into the old Moroccan market to buy bananas or spend some valuable time with some criminals and a scarce cup of green tea) but I've no idea whatsoever why you, or any other, like doing what you normally do (to be perfectly honest with you, this is totally going over my head like I'm not getting it: I do admit to it).

there both the same just different colours.

That is the plain truth as it is.