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Dalmando
(Oct 17, 2009 at 13:36)
Is that a second shock next to the bb?
when the top shock bottoms out the swingarm pulls on the bottom shock.
http://www.corsairbikes.com/fly.aspx?layout=bike&taxid=58&sublayout=bikeanimations
http://www.corsairbikes.com/fly.aspx?layout=bike&taxid=58&sublayout=bikeanimations
It gives it more travel and the back wheel moves further back while the second shock is compressing.
other bikes achieve the same travel with one shock.
Most shocks can cope completely with bottom out control.
Most shocks can cope completely with bottom out control.
yeah, but then you can run your shock more plush instead of having the last stroke of the shock being bottom out controlled. so your getting more out of the first shock increasing performance. so your isolating the bottom out to one shock.
No....Then all you would have is one very linear shock with a horrendously harsh transition into your bottom out shock...
Any good shock can be tuned to have all the pro's of this system built into it. its pointless, this bike doesnt have any more travel than others, its just a gimick.
Any good shock can be tuned to have all the pro's of this system built into it. its pointless, this bike doesnt have any more travel than others, its just a gimick.
well you would set the first shock to transition into the second one obviously. you just wouldn't have to run your bottom out as high. therefore you can run your shock more plush throughout more of the travel.
I dont think you even understand the system, your defending pure hype.
Its POINTLESS. if you get it "perfect" you will achieve the exact same feel as a well set up SINGLE shock.
Its POINTLESS. if you get it "perfect" you will achieve the exact same feel as a well set up SINGLE shock.
Muttley did you watch the diagram he posted, it shows the rearward travel at the end of the travel, this is not possible with one shock, because the primary one is fully compressed.
I don't think they claim it has more travel than any other bike, it probably has a very smooth bottom out, which I'm pretty sure that's why they designed it that way. It's not like the second shock has any suspension advantages because it is at the end of the travel, it's just there to take the edge off huge impacts.
I don't think they claim it has more travel than any other bike, it probably has a very smooth bottom out, which I'm pretty sure that's why they designed it that way. It's not like the second shock has any suspension advantages because it is at the end of the travel, it's just there to take the edge off huge impacts.
The frame isn`t that expensive considering it has a extra shock and compared to certain DH frames, it`s cheaper at 2599 $ MSRP
Rearward travel isnt a factor of shock peformance, its a factor of suspension design. huge impacts can have their "edge" removed perfectly well with a properly set up good shock.
Most bikes don't have 60mm of extra rear travel to be used ONLY to soften the bottom out of your rear suspension, and most bikes don't have a second stage of axle path. This bike does, that's why it uses 2 shocks, do you not get the idea? It's so you can have plush 180mm of travel, then when you blow through your soft travel on a big jump, you won't have to worry about breaking your shock or your bike. The bike also has anti-squat; you don't have to run any platform type damping, so you have much better pedaling performance.
It's similar to 2-stage suspension.
It's similar to 2-stage suspension.
Is nice
... Im gona be rocking either a Transition double,BLK MRKT kill switch or NS soda next year,ethier way it's gona be single speeded...and this is for O-cup...Do you think 4 inches of travel is enough?(BTW never raced O-cup apparently you dont even need 6inches
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Mark me down on the doubter side of this. So are you supposed to set your air shock super stiff so it doesn't move as the coil compresses? What about rebound? your gonna have a weird little step in both compression and rebound. Also why is he rest of the DH world straying away from these 9.5-10 in frames and goin toward 7-8" travel light weight frames? Seems like a silly, heavy way to achieve what many companies already have. Remember how well this didhttp://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a170/acdcfan1283/apocalypse%20for%20u%20people%20who%20want%202%20see%20it/bikepics001.jpg
the apocalypse is way difrent. the apocalypse just extends the travel with the bottom out resistance. the crown changes the axel path aswell as incresing travel and adding a bottom out shock. look at the animation. than play auround with it a bit moving it up and down on the 180-240 travel mark. the main shock acts as a high pivit pushing the axel out instead of straight up. i cant describe it that well as i am the type of person who doesent learn by reading but by doing and feeling for myself.
ok, so they both increase travel with bottom out resistance but the crown only ads axel path change. But thers are several suspension designs on the market using one shock that are nearly vertical then move to rearward in the last 20% or so
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