haha just die lol

dude it does why thats all i ask is why just take the top tube off may as well

dude your american what the f*ck do you know lol

i hate this place just btw and i have eyes a scooter goes down so does this toptube it looks like a lopez scooter

aye and the scar on your leg looks like a fanny mate your frame is a fit eddie. a fit eddie you cant talk about anyones bikes your frame is the most basic thing ever lol

well not anymore its a fly luna and whats wrong with basic that means its not a pile of crap scooter frame if you cant toach the welds in between the toptube and the downtube your balls havent droped yet

you cant f*cking call anyones frame a scooter if you have a fly you cock bag lol

i have a luna it dosnt have a gay ass low toptube only the tirreas have scooter toptubes like this so shut ur face any turndowns tailwhips cans anything like that dosnt count when u have a frame like this

haha. did anything tht an a american do count? well then!

well lets see who invented bmx? amricans so id shut the f*ck up as much as i hate living here it never rains and i live in the city bmx was started in

and what has scotland done for bmx? advanced it in any manner? i could see u making fun of americans if you were from somewhere tight

well scotland has one of the first conrete skateparks ever built and has the largest indoor skatepark in the uk! get it up ye

why the fu*k was this arguement started??.....just coz a stupid american said that a frame should be turned into a scooter????......wtf??...you really are stupid americans...well maybe not all, but just you

if you love BMX so much, then u will know most companies frames are different, some people, inc me, love small frames..everybody is entilted to there own opinion but urs just didnt make sense mate

and personally i think that bike looks amazing!!

woop!

the thing is that its not a bmx bike anymore there comes a point when the bike makes stuff cheating im not saying it should be turned into a scooter it already is when that pedal comes up it will be as high as the toptube so basicly your feet are even with the toptube pretty much the same as a large scooter

nothings cheating in the bike world...its a frame thats really small, and how is it a scooter??...it does'nt even have an engine!!

if something was cheating, somebody would recognise it and ban it.

your arguement is pointless, look at the KHE Zenith, that frame is even smaller so STFU douche bag

mate your american you cant say anything about cheating WW2 for example least tht frame dosent kill other bmxs in freindly fire!

dude its stupid turndowns arent as hard and tail whips dont count dude it ruins style and its a disgrace just like sub 20 pound bikes grow some balls and i dont care about ww2 i dont suport my counrty in anyway when it comes to poltics but with bmx we keep it REAL except hoffman hes just f*ckin around and its ok he payed for it and it may as well have an engine haha that wouldnt be cheating on turndowns and tail whips who said the other khe frame isnt a disgrace to the bmx world to along with the worst frame ever made the lopez lt

lol, wtf are you talking about?...its a frame for godsake!....the zenith is also lighter so tail whips would be easier on that....and turndows?...it makes no difference how big the frame is!...this frame make no difference to the rider, it maybe light yea, but wtf are you on about....bmx is bmx and now your talking gibberish so STFU

can you do turndown? yes i does make a diffeance normally the seat would hit your leg making you have to lean out to extend your body well if they seat is lower u get srunched easy nasty looking turndowns that are much more effortless its not how big its whether the top tube is to low its ridiculoius wtf make some guy think of that stupid looking sad exuse for a bike

w/e it dosnt matter i kno why you like these frames it makes a bmx bike look like a hardtail it all makes sense now

mate even stevie wonder would see tht tht frame looks nothing like a mountainbike rofl

haha dude look at a hard tail its the same thing the toptube goes down except for vertical dropouts

All of you pipe down and grow up. This is ridiculous.

i agree, thankyou LettusDude