33.56lbs
+ about 2lbs for cables, lube, other stuff. But take some off for other stuff like Ti bolts, KCNC Jockey wheels, shortened seat post etc etc.

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flag SamCopp (Nov 4, 2009 at 9:22)
that is crazy light!!!
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flag Muttley (Nov 4, 2009 at 9:22)
Tim i hope your not a liar.
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flag stryke (Nov 4, 2009 at 9:23)
nice bike but shame you wont be able to corner it when youre rolling with big bettys
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flag timlake (Nov 4, 2009 at 9:25)
I don't corner. I just ride, straight down!
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flag stryke (Nov 4, 2009 at 9:27)
do marshalls not mind you cutting the course D:
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flag timlake (Nov 4, 2009 at 9:35)
They dont see me, I go so fast.
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flag crashin (Nov 4, 2009 at 10:01)
Oh yeahhhhh! TR450, I'm getting myself one too, great choice dude tup.
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flag JamesOliver (Nov 4, 2009 at 13:23)
When are you getting one?
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flag crashin (Nov 4, 2009 at 13:26)
I would like to say about 8 months, probs be more like a year Razz.
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flag JamesOliver (Nov 4, 2009 at 13:27)
Thats probably a good time to wait anyway. It could have serious problems in the first year like the trek Wink
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flag crashin (Nov 4, 2009 at 13:31)
Hah, yeah looks like the Transition team really like theres, but then they would say that. To be honest though, after riding a Bottlerocket, Double and a Bank they are sick bikes. The colour lineup looks pretty sweet, too. But we will see in a year tup.
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flag Rattsl (Nov 4, 2009 at 10:15)
what program is this again? Are you going by oz.? Or what measurement are you using?
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flag timlake (Nov 4, 2009 at 10:40)
Mircosoft Excel. Not ounces but pounds then like .1-.9 of a pound.
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flag Rattsl (Nov 4, 2009 at 10:44)
Alright, does it tell you on excel where to choose the thing for pounds? And how did you guess the weights, like 0.58 and numbers like that.
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flag timlake (Nov 4, 2009 at 10:48)
where to chose the thing for pounds? I don't know what you mean.
I didn't guess the weights. I used Google Converter.
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flag Rattsl (Nov 4, 2009 at 10:51)
Nvmd, got it working, thanks.
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flag hh101 (Nov 4, 2009 at 10:53)
No BaR Fab stuff on the list I see...
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flag timlake (Nov 4, 2009 at 10:55)
Well observed. BaR Fab don't compete with the lightest people. They can't get access to Titanium like big companies and can't compete with their weights.
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flag hh101 (Nov 4, 2009 at 15:43)
Is that because they don't exist?
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flag arquitetodh (Nov 4, 2009 at 12:18)
great parts dude!!
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flag crs-one (Nov 4, 2009 at 12:25)
Redo it in grams. Work out specific weights for things like bolt tuning and wheels. Maybe I'll upload mine...
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flag dh-pete (Nov 4, 2009 at 15:07)
Could get much lighter. Smile
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flag timlake (Nov 4, 2009 at 15:15)
Please, tell me. I used some parts just because i had the weights on sicklines. I know the frame can go a LOT lighter
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flag dh-pete (Nov 4, 2009 at 15:35)
Obtanium performance adapter is the needle bearing cage to prevent coil bind, right? If so, not necessary and loses the progressiveness...

Or, real weenies run air shocks! That'd save a good 6 oz.

Modded XT cranks are boss, it's not a lot of work for a good weight saving

An e*thirteen SRS+ with a MRP Carbon bash is just under 20g less than an LG1+

Twenty6 Prerunner pedals are going to be lighter than nukeproofs, a good 40g (nukeproof are heavier than claimed by a long shot)

SRAM is heavy, but if you're intent there is still gripshift!

CK is heavy, use A2Z or Hope's 150mm rear hub with their super light 20mm XC hub up front.

Save 10g with a carbon railed SLR, or 20 for the Technologica version (more exposed carbon, more concentrated padding)

Slice and dice the KCNC post, you can get them down to 110g or above depending on your size of cut. Use a Woodman Deathrgrip Ti clamp, 9g

Carbon bars! Syntace will soon be releasing their 740mm Vector DH (~230g). You won't miss the 2.5mm per end..

The 77 Designs stem is lighter than a Point1, also stronger. I'd advise it.

Get some comfy BMX grips, cut them right and save 50g+ doing so. That's about it really, you could get into using alloy bolts and tuning too but that's a lot to get into. I'd say you could cut at least a pound off it.

Have you added in the Weight of tubes or Stans & valve core?
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flag timlake (Nov 4, 2009 at 15:47)
-Thought about the Xt. Couldn't find the weight of a modded XT.
-Sounds good
-Couldn't find the weight for them either. The Nukeproofs were confirmed on sicklines
-Gripshift won't be possible Wink
-Funnily, I worked out what the hopes would have been too. As well as a 440. The CK came out lightest. I think I9 would have been lighter but the CX ray spokes make the CK setup lighter.
-Good shout
-The KCNC would have been cut, a lot, and then drilled etc. Woodman clamp sounds good.
-Hmm Carbon bars. Not sure if I'd be happy with 50g less for carbon bars. I guess I would :/
-Can't say I've ever heard of 77 designs. I've probably seen pics though.
-Not a fan of BMX grips. I've not found a single one comfy.
-Nope, not got the weight of those, or cables, or chainring bolts, or lube, or chainstay protector, cable ties or headset spacers. But then again, I haven't taken off the weight from Ti bolts, or cutting down the post, and some other stuff, like the chain is it a full length; It would drop by a few grammes. It would be around 33.
So with a Summum frame, or something like that sub 30 is def possible!

I think we should all scrape together and make it! Then sell it for a profit.
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flag dh-pete (Nov 4, 2009 at 16:25)
A Summum could be taken down to sub 30 no problems. That frame gives you a lot more options like a 135mm hub and a 73mm bb.

You should see how light I have calculated it to be possible to drop my Reign X down to. Considering it's damn light already at 29.54 with a Gravity Dropper... Wink

If you're mad you can use Nobby Nic 2.4's. They're lighter than the Betty's. But I can't guarantee they'll ride out after sharp grass gets near them, or coarse mud (high in sand density), or anything with the slightest of sharpness.... Razz
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flag stryke (Nov 5, 2009 at 9:26)
summum is 150 rear
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flag dh-pete (Nov 5, 2009 at 9:28)
SRSLY? What a crap design then. The chainline is going to suck and you'll need to run an un-necessarily heavy hub.
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flag stryke (Nov 5, 2009 at 9:36)
73/150 is like the supreme dh and the intense socom (before)

chainline has been fine on all of those~ chainguide setup was a pain on the supremes however
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flag stryke (Nov 5, 2009 at 9:37)
p.s its not made to be the lightest of everything, its made to be strong, stiff and light so 150 is a better option for the rear hub
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flag dh-joe (Nov 5, 2009 at 7:53)
Why did you delete my comment this is pointless
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flag timlake (Nov 5, 2009 at 7:59)
i didn't delete your comment...
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flag dh-joe (Nov 5, 2009 at 8:21)
well i commented saying whats the point
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flag timlake (Nov 6, 2009 at 10:27)
the point is to see how light a heavy frame can be built.
What's wrong with it.
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flag willsoffe (Nov 5, 2009 at 10:15)
Tim. U forgot
cables
ISCG bolts for chainguide
chainring bolts
Tubes
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flag timlake (Nov 6, 2009 at 10:26)
I also forgot:
Ti bolts (less weight)
Cutting down seatpost (Less weight)
Links outta chain (Less Weight)
KCNC Jockeys (Less Weight)

+ Running tubeless.

But I aint buying it, just to see what could be done...
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