Naduv at non in Tel Aviv, Israel - photo by iddo

argyle is crap! and he took the frame with it... (destroyed the head tube)

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pyrofly (Dec 10, 2009 at 4:35)

I really don't think that you 18 and 17 year old riders really know..

Their has been riding for a long time..The reason that bmx technology doesn't change much is because it works awesomely just the way it is..

One the other hand mtb parts are always changing..Because they can always be improved on..The mtb companies find the weaknesses and change the standards so often in mtb that You'd have to be a big baller to afford the new stuff every time you break it..

BMX has been giving young and old alike joy for a long time now..

So what if this is a predominantly mtb website,,Its also predominantly full of immature,ego balling idiots..

Does that mean unless I become one of your mtb gang and start talking crap to everyone, will I then be accepted??

You all are silly for even arguing that a Mountain bike is gonna be stronger than a bmx..

Moving parts are weaker..taller parts..skinnier parts..aluminum parts..less spokes..

These are all the common feature of your precious mountain bike..Its gonna break and rust and seize up and all that,, just so you can say that you have gears and can absorb the bumps with technology...And some of you say that this guy must suck at riding..I don't think so...I doesn't take much to snap a headtube on a mountain bike..You'll find so many videos of mountain bikes breaking during useage..

You'll see bmxers..completely eat it on their bikes..they'll get pissed off and throw the bike as hard as they can against the concrete and get on it ride ride the trick again..

Say that about a mountain bike.. and show me the proof..

You mtbers are full of it..I've been a biker for a long time..I've built mtbs way longer than bmx..

I see the flaws in both..You mountain bikes are still in progress..the technology is not complete and you're riding an experiment..

Good luck.

mr-duv (Dec 10, 2009 at 11:43)

you are my new god dude, that was amazing text i agree in almust every line.

except of.. Bmx bikes are still in progress if you didnt notice becouse of there strengh so good they starting to shave of the frames and make all lighter you can get an pretty strong bmx today with full 4pegs + hub gourd that weight like 9kilos... thats an hugh progressing... Plus the metherials are changing.. if you didnt notice Bmxing started to use Titanium parts not so long ago Big Grin

pyrofly (Dec 10, 2009 at 14:51)

Then I put My Blessing On You, My Dear Child!!

LOL

sam264 (Dec 11, 2009 at 11:11)

what can i say? BMX is just old news, us MTBers are living in the present! Wink

i joke of course, but they're totally different beasts.

southsolid123 (Feb 6, 2010 at 15:42)

264 i totally agree , and this is just my personal thought, bmx sucks, many people say bmx is stronger than mtb and that mtb's are alway breaking well, do bmx's go down huge slopes at huge speeds oh and btw even street riders go bigger than any bmx anyday also may i add bmx are small so its easy to do tricks on but if you do something on a mtb with a bigger frame it takes more skill to handle, another point is that mtbs are more comfy to ride but il give bmx one thing they doo look quite nice at some times but even then mtb makers are thinking in their godly mind of different ways to make mtbs better another thing is why the f.u.c.k would you buy a bmx for arround 500 quid when you can buy an even better mtb for that money so there is my argument and thats final

sam264 (Feb 6, 2010 at 17:29)

hmm, i agree to a point, i think for £500 you're going to get a good BMX, but both have their good points, BMX's are easier to trick on etc, but i just feel more comfortable on an mtb

mr-duv (Feb 8, 2010 at 1:37)

well. XD that was my opinion to before i got my bmx, and then i just noticed somthin.. it isnt realy metter the thing you calling "comfrotable" becouse after a week-mounth or so.. youll get use to the new bike and you wont even remember that stupid comfortable issue..

the awesomest thing about us "peoples" that we are geting used to stuffs and changes in our lifes realy fast.

sam264 (Feb 8, 2010 at 10:22)

I like my mtb. End of.

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sam264 (Dec 5, 2009 at 9:52)

argyles have STEEL steerers, i'll bet you just landed one too many jumps badly.

Charge262 (Dec 5, 2009 at 9:56)

thats kinda irrelevant. if anything aluminium steerers are weaker, and all the top of the line dj's use alu steerers. you dont see this happening anywhere near as often.

sam264 (Dec 5, 2009 at 10:16)

eh? that's my point, alu steerers ARE weaker and that has steel ^ it's unlikely it's a case of "oh shit my fork snapped for no reason", more like "oh shit, i just snapped my fork casing a jump again" or something similar

sam264 (Dec 5, 2009 at 10:17)

and for the record, that's like the second argyle i've seen snapped there, i still wouldn't buy anything marzocchi right now.

Charge262 (Dec 5, 2009 at 10:19)

clicky and ive seen more than this.

sam264 (Dec 5, 2009 at 11:00)

that's not a lot really, and look at the next comment down on here, seems to explain it

mr-duv (Dec 6, 2009 at 0:06)

my 2 friends broke ther alu DJ2 stirer same way 180 of some 7set SO agryle/DJ/what ever

they all brakes RIDE BMX.

Charge262 (Dec 6, 2009 at 4:15)

erm, no. id rather ide a mountain bike, thankyou.

sam264 (Dec 6, 2009 at 5:17)

if you land a stair set to flat badly you're gonna break your bike whether it's bmx or mtb, i know what i'd rather ride.

mr-duv (Dec 6, 2009 at 5:26)

that souch a bull shit. look how many MTB parts are geting brake and how many BMX and how much progress going on the BMX bikes.

an Oddyessy Director wont brake even if you land 1milion times bad of 8stairs but the suspen forks for MTB will brake of 3set if you landed bad.

Dont talk B/S cuz every one knows how MTB is weak.

Charge262 (Dec 6, 2009 at 5:48)

dude if you carry on like this your just going to get flamed to shit, this is a predominantly MTB site, so dont go flaming MTB's on it.

sam264 (Dec 6, 2009 at 9:39)

yeah man you're a moron, i've seen plenty of bmx's break, they're made of the same materials and are just as strong at mtb, face it, you make some bad landings out of your skill level on a bmx, you're just as likely to f*ck it up.

sam264 (Dec 6, 2009 at 9:39)

and for the record, i have nothing against bmxers, you're just talking absolute shite.

mr-duv (Dec 6, 2009 at 10:09)

what ever i dont wanna waste my word on a moron that dont understand simple physics.

lets say it like that cuz you morons can understand. BMX small MTB big.

now go out, and take a stick. make it 21 inch. take another same stick and make it 10 inch.

try to brakes those on your leg, and see how brake faster?
i have nothin against MTB i love it in all my hurt i just freaking sick of buying new parts and braking them. also im using lots of BMX parts on my bike that make it very strong i never had problems with my bmx parts only with the MTB ones as FORKs Frames Stem and affcourse the 24inch wheel are geting loose very fast cuz of the size. i personaly find MTB street funer but after braking this and rolling 5flips to the rode i scare to hit big things on the MTB bikes. i hope you ppls got my point. if not go screw your self morons

mr-duv (Dec 6, 2009 at 10:11)

O AND BTW THIS IS MY BIKE NOT IDDOS BIKE. SO FK YA

Charge262 (Dec 6, 2009 at 10:26)

lmao. its ignorant fools like you who unfortunatly run this world, and are turning it into the shithole it is. i dont understand physics? i have enough on a knowladge of it to know how ridiculous your last statement was.

mr-duv (Dec 6, 2009 at 10:50)

you just know i right so you talking shit to me. if you said you right im sory you beem smarter this time you might got out of it a little cooler and even sound smart but you shit face talking like moron and since you got knowladge you shuld know 20" wheel will be stronger then an 24" and an 21" frame will be stronger then an 22" frame.

and that the alu stirer in my stupid fork arent strong as the Cromo in the BMX stirer tubes of the forks

mr-duv (Dec 6, 2009 at 10:53)

so lets put it that way,

BMX is stronger you cant keep lie to ur self. if we talking about whats FUNER we can make this converastion very long but we talking about the abbilty of those parts to survive in bad conditions and for long time and BMX just prof it every time.

sam264 (Dec 6, 2009 at 12:19)

yeah bmxs are smaller but mtbs are made to be as strong, mtb companies aren't retarded. And for the last time, argyle steerers are STEEL, NOT ALU.

mr-duv (Dec 6, 2009 at 20:46)

the 318 is steel 409 is alu you can chek it at chainreactioncycles.com that were i got it from.

Charge262 (Dec 7, 2009 at 0:55)

argyle steeres are steel, i am a trained rock shox mech, so you can stop your lies now plz thx.
do you really think 4 inches of size will make the slightest difference when talking terms of strength? mate, i dont want an argument here but these arguments you are trying to make are utterly rediculous! bmx stronger? maybe. bmx less technologically advanced? not by a f*cking long shot, theres been so little change in the last 20 years its not worth mentioning. oh wow, 1pc drivers, and somewhere along the line some guys brake fell off and it stuck. BY THE WAY its BREAKS not brakes.

mr-duv (Dec 7, 2009 at 6:06)

1, f*ck you. http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=29845 />2, you trying to make an argument even tough you know im right.
3, dont think your smarter then me cuz you can spell better in english or somthin i aint dumb
4,even 5mm make a hugh difference in strengt like: cranks arms, the guys that go big mostly rides short cranks as 175 and bilow to be sure it will be safe.

i hope i make my point and dont say im lier i gave you the site to look its a alu stirer so before you calling ppls in names chek your possition and what you stands for cuz if you say shit and ppl like me show you, you are wrong your ego will hurt and you turn out to be the stupid a*shole jerk that bug ppls for no reason.

Thank you very much and have a magical day Smile

sam264 (Dec 7, 2009 at 10:23)

ok so the 409 steerer is alu, but it shouldn't snap like that under normal stresses
yes, smaller stuff is, in theory, stronger, but mtb components such as rims are more built up to avoid snapping, mtb frames etc snap just as much as bmx frames. At the end of the day, if you land badly on either, you're just as likely to f*ck your bike up

oh and charge... actually it's brake, not break

sam264 (Dec 7, 2009 at 10:24)

wait ignore that last one, wrong context

Charge262 (Dec 7, 2009 at 10:25)

i apologise, it is indeed a alu steerer.

but you cannot say 'bmx is stronger than MTB' i will argue with you to the death about that.

mr-duv (Dec 7, 2009 at 11:04)

apologise excepted and i now see you as a more mature person, about the argue i prefer not to do at becouse as you said i will go as well to the death about my opinion :O

anyway my fork got broken i didnt rode a cycle about 2mounth and the argue did was a little fun and helped pass my time ty XD

pook14 (Dec 10, 2009 at 23:20)

my cranks are 180mm f*ggot i like my shit big and stop flaming MTBers those are sick and just cuz youre too fat to be good at bmx and too much of a bitch to ride 26 doesnt mean u hav to flame users that know what the f*ck theyre talknig about. and im talking to mr-duv, the fat piece of shit who thinks he knows whats up.

mr-duv (Dec 11, 2009 at 1:17)

im riding an BMX bike dude O_O whats your point? and im not a bich i did rode mtbs its just shit

pook14 (Dec 11, 2009 at 18:33)

dude learn proper english its hard as f*ck to understand your fat ass

tudor (Dec 11, 2009 at 23:08)

dudes i think if lower it at about 70-85 in won't brake but if you ride it at 100 the fork flex's alot

mr-duv (Dec 11, 2009 at 23:32)

it is 60mm and it broke like that. it didnt flex it got snaped becuz i landed the 180 on the last stair like 3times it did make an hugh presher on my fork that the all deal..

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pyrofly (Dec 10, 2009 at 4:12)

Fact..20 inch wheels are stronger.
Fact aluminum has a 5 year shelf life.
Fact shorter tubing is stronger than longer tubing..
I've ridden both mtb and bmx..

I'll say that I don't like his additude,but bmx bikes are way stronger than any mountain bike.

The strongest mountain bike would be a 24 inch full cromo dirtjumper with rigid funn forks..

Shocks and gears are just more parts that can malfunction..

I understand the preference..

But the facts are the facts..head on collision bmx verses mtb,,the mtb would come out mangled....

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pyrofly (Dec 14, 2009 at 18:10)

I like the old school marzis with the replaceable crown and steertube..anyone remember those?.

psynide (Dec 16, 2009 at 5:10)

i totally agree with you pyrofly, the replaceable crown and steertube plus the replaceable arch. those were better than these one piece lowers.

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David95 (Dec 13, 2009 at 7:31)

do you still have the argyle?i'm looking for it because the lower leg.pm me.thanks.

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Charge262 (Dec 4, 2009 at 12:38)

see guys, everyone hates DJ's for breaking, true, the new ones seem to be complete garbage, and have been sinse 2008, but you see SO many argyles snapping at the head tube!

mr-duv (Dec 5, 2009 at 8:14)

becuz more ppl ride them so more ppl brakes them.

Charge262 (Dec 5, 2009 at 9:34)

no chance. think about the OEM market- DJ3's are all you get, more expensive- DJ1/2. there is no chance in HELL there are more argyles out there than there are dirt jumpers.

ben-24 (Dec 6, 2009 at 12:29)

evrything brakes!

AndreasKallis (Dec 7, 2009 at 12:44)

charge262 - well more of the professional ( people most likely to snap them ) use them then any dj fork! yeh dj fork probably sell more but most of the ones sold are to like 12 year old kids who just learnt to bunnyhop on there dj3's and wont EVER snap there forks

audeo03 (Dec 9, 2009 at 6:46)

WAY MORE Rockshox THAN MARZ IN US FOR SURE...

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Akoss (Dec 4, 2009 at 7:36)

oh, f*ck, that's sucks

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MarzocchiBoy11 (Mar 21, 2010 at 6:50)

whose bike is this? cuz i would like to see some before pics

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innovations (Dec 27, 2009 at 14:58)

yeah they are trash. thus the $10-$15 msrp.
everyone knows you get what u pay for
nuff said.

AmirB (Jan 4, 2010 at 22:29)

and still you bought a kona that doesnt even exists.

innovations (Jan 5, 2010 at 16:40)

u my friend are a dumass its a special edition Northstar park only bike. any American knows that. idiot do ur research first.

AmirB (Jan 6, 2010 at 4:29)

not my point. my point is dont give shit for other people about something if you did the same.

innovations (Jan 8, 2010 at 16:51)

and when did i dothe same?? once again. my point is they are tash and they are.

mr-duv (Feb 8, 2010 at 1:32)

if they are trash why 80% of the BMXers and now like 50% of the MTB street riders ride them?

you saying about it its shit and you dont even tell why? your an idiot ass hole when you learn how to bunyhop call me f*got

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DHelz (Jan 24, 2010 at 13:11)

ive seen that happen to soo many argyles :/

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iddo (Dec 5, 2009 at 10:23)

by the way it broke because he landed bad from 180 of 5 stairs

sam264 (Dec 5, 2009 at 10:59)

that sounds about right, nothing wrong with the forks

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iddo (Dec 4, 2009 at 10:11)

^^argyle

audeo03 (Dec 9, 2009 at 9:43)

Why do you break every bike you ride? Was looking at your album...

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yurdlum (Dec 11, 2009 at 13:03)

man, i hate it when that happens!

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AmirB (Dec 4, 2009 at 7:33)

nadov...

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ransom150 (Feb 28, 2010 at 18:50)

mine did that too!!

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saso (Dec 4, 2009 at 8:57)

wat did he doo?

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mano76 (Dec 4, 2009 at 9:48)

pike?

N1ckyWTPbmx (Dec 4, 2009 at 10:12)

argyles man. 409's

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UFO666 (Dec 4, 2009 at 10:48)

argyla sucks Smile

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innovations (Dec 21, 2009 at 15:21)

nice plastic pedals f*ggot

samwel-commencal (Dec 27, 2009 at 13:05)

nothing wrong with plastic pedals

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