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jayson-10 (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:05)

that is the f*ckin stupidest idea...

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k2dan (Jul 4, 2011 at 16:59)

rofl

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Gsnickets (Mar 10, 2010 at 19:03)

I love how almost no one who commented on this picture knows the difference between "break" and "brake" just flat out sad.

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Cyclist-Abuse (Jan 12, 2010 at 19:00)

Why not just use regular caliper brakes if you want to brake? There has allready been the points of wrecking the rotor and cutting or burning yourself on the rotor. I would also like to point out that if your chain were to break, the rotor would be rendered useless. Why not just mount the brake somewhere else?

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sean-dh (Jul 5, 2011 at 11:06)

Fixie riders slow down using the power of their legs right?

I think the idea is to replicate this using a hydraulic brake. maybe for weeds or something?

Also having it placed there would mean people can retrofit it to the typical old racers used for fixies by buying this crankset.

The other points about burning etc. are very valid though

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Cyclist-Abuse (Jul 7, 2011 at 16:39)

The retrofiting idea would be a valid point; except for the fact that to mount the caliper to the frame; you can see that there is a mount welded to the frame... it would be much simpler to weld on a set of mounts for a traditional disk setup.

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sean-dh (Jul 7, 2011 at 17:10)

oh yeah well spotted

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thegringo (Feb 20, 2010 at 17:21)

It's a waste of money is what it is,and time will prove me right,what with industry standards that are already in place and have been for years and compatability issues to overcome.Give in now and save yourself a lot of money and heartache.
Gringo. Frown

Frown

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WAKIdesigns (Mar 15, 2010 at 6:33)

with all the respect to bike couriers, but... it's just amazing how far can you go, to avoid using freehub...

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george8 (Jan 11, 2010 at 8:07)

discs get really hot pretty soon if you do some heavy breaking, it would end up burning your ankle and possibly cutting you as well, put a rim brake on or grow some leg muscles

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Dickinson (Jan 11, 2010 at 10:52)

Your not gunna be going that fast on this type of bike !

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george8 (Jan 11, 2010 at 10:54)

yes you will, as i said it doesnt take much speed just by using the brakes a handfull of times to stop quickly and you will be burning heat into the disc, but yeah these bikes are a stupid idea tbh :L

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Dickinson (Jan 11, 2010 at 11:50)

it probs never get used, Probs just an idea they came up with.

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richardandhiskona08 (Oct 11, 2011 at 11:19)

it is plausible if they put a plastic rotor guard over the rotor and then it would be a good idea right up until your chain snaps then try stopping

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knoxrider (Jan 12, 2010 at 0:11)

its a nice brake but it should be more compact. it makes sense cuz there is no disk fixie hubs/frame mounts. smart

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rybizm (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:05)

wft? whats the point of having a brake on a fixie?

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dingus (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:06)

Its for people with weak legs...

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shortywrenn (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:09)

how?

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bxxer-rider (Jan 11, 2010 at 8:43)

or people who are light, imagine a 8 stone rider trying to stop quickly from flatout. its not going to happen.

its a good idea and well personally id rather know that there was a break there for emergences even if i did not use it that often.

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rybizm (Jan 12, 2010 at 9:41)

but that's the whole idea of a fixie if you want brakes buy a road bike, i must admit it's really creative though

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xpirimint (Jan 15, 2010 at 17:50)

this is an old idea actually
the freewheel bottombracket was used on way older schwinn bikes

and since the wheel spun with the cassette, you could shift with out pedaling.

it was sort of like a transmission

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RomoStills23 (Jun 28, 2011 at 16:16)

damn drunk engineers these days

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tristan1486 (Jan 15, 2010 at 23:21)

why the hell would you do that? if that thing gets hot when its spinning and you leg touches that your gonna get a nice cut, (personally think its a retarted idea)

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godzill (Dec 18, 2010 at 11:08)

To be thinking straight. If You suddenly brake You fly like Sputnik...the problem will be in your legs when You started braking. Good try anyway.

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GustavoMO (Dec 14, 2011 at 10:19)

If the guy down and hook his leg around, he'll have a nice cut or something else would be!

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SeSSion666 (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:33)

The bike i for a track, this haven't "freewheel" thats why they hvebrak here.

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hardtaildh08 (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:05)

whaa?

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transition-racer (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:52)

an easy way to cut your legs, just a stupid idea....

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hardtaildh08 (Jan 10, 2010 at 14:05)

so when you try to pull the break and try to pedal you stomach the bars break a few ribs puntchure a lung tear your insides and look like a twat

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perthandcrieffsfinest (Jan 10, 2010 at 14:43)

It's because you cant freewheel ross... the brake slows down the movement of both the wheel and the cranks. Most fixie riders just use their leg strength to stop, but this guy obviously needs a brake for something. It makes sense for fast guys who live in a city, or for weak people who cant stop well.

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freerideluke (Jan 11, 2010 at 13:36)

think of the burn you might get off it though.

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dnbmx (Jan 11, 2010 at 13:48)

Its a fixie, so if the pedals stop so does the bike

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perthandcrieffsfinest (Jan 11, 2010 at 14:09)

yeah I guess, that thing would get pretty hot!

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giantman817 (Jan 11, 2010 at 21:48)

yeah its a fixed gear, so its basically a new braking system

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blkmrkt-uk (Jan 11, 2010 at 22:13)

u could do a steak on one of them after braking Big Grin

Big Grin

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Lachlan-S (Jan 12, 2010 at 0:54)

Could this be great using it as a crank stop doing tailwhips and such?

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perthandcrieffsfinest (Jan 12, 2010 at 11:34)

yeah until you caught your leg in it when slipping back on...

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hardtaildh08 (Jan 12, 2010 at 11:39)

sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssslllllllliiiiiiccccceeeee

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advorak (Jan 12, 2010 at 18:31)

It is the engineering equivalent of engine brakes.

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Lachlan-S (Jan 13, 2010 at 22:03)

perthandcrieffsfinest... eerr mate you could just put a plastic cover around it.

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hardtaildh08 (Jan 14, 2010 at 9:40)

what about the break caliper

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perthandcrieffsfinest (Jan 14, 2010 at 11:27)

good plan lachlan - but I still doubt people would use it

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xpirimint (Jan 15, 2010 at 17:49)

i think its a poor concept

i may be wrong but the freewheel is in the bottombracket right? so braking wouldn't affect the crankarm from pedaling backwards?

well if u brake, it puts a lot of stopping force on the chain, and that would pull the rear cog and everything between that and the bottombracket. the structure of the frame will win over the chain and the chain will break.

and the rotor looks like a hazard when its that close to your leg. you know how your jeans get caught in the chainring if it doesnt have a bashguard sometimes? imagine that...deli cut calf muscle.

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ziegele (Jan 16, 2010 at 15:51)

it works fine guys, so many people do this with ther fixies

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DirtyDee (Jan 16, 2010 at 17:41)

Why not just use a regular brake on the rim? Seems like a whole lotta work gone into this when there is an obvious solution already.

I'm goona see if i can make a handlebar mounted saddle and a seatpost mounted handlebar just to see how it feels...

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dnbmx (Jan 16, 2010 at 18:40)

cos the chain would lose tension when you breaked and it basically wouldnt work properly

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xpirimint (Jan 20, 2010 at 10:37)

sd53bad
you saying the chain would lose tension with a regular brake system?

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mongoose-rider (Jan 20, 2010 at 10:39)

whats wrong with just a brake on the rim :S or disk on the hub

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hardtaildh08 (Jan 20, 2010 at 11:28)

well said disk breaks ftw !

on the hub

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xpirimint (Jan 21, 2010 at 20:38)

its way more practical to just have a break on the hub or rim

maybe not the rim if you have nice ones and you wanna keep the paint but wtf? on the crank? so many reasons thats a bad idea

can anyone say the advantage of the brake being on the crank?

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Borgschulze (Jan 29, 2010 at 23:13)

I believe the whole point of this is to be different.

Obviously and easier way would have been to use a regular disc brake setup on the hub...

But how many people do you see with a disc brake connected to their crank?

A side note... it's kind of a waste, wear out your chain faster.

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perthandcrieffsfinest (Jan 30, 2010 at 14:21)

I guess having a wooden leg is "being different"...

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xpirimint (Jan 30, 2010 at 22:08)

ya if u wanna argue that its cool to be different go ahead, no one will win that one since its an opinon

but i think that this is impractical if you are talking about safety and braking at the same time...

but i guess i think ppl just like braking being easier for them and not wearing out ur chain so fast but then again, thats an opinion.

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will-quake (Feb 23, 2010 at 15:26)

It's like a motorbike brake thingy ken I saw it on American Chopper

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sam264 (Feb 24, 2010 at 14:31)

definitely different, so is having disc rotor shaped burns on your leg....
still not sure why anyone would do this over regular disc brakes...

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cyberhawk Plus (Feb 26, 2010 at 6:05)

i have never seen so many stupid commments below one picture.. and there is not even a girl in this pic..
half of you dont know how a FIXIE really works.. and the other half is probably riding in the lowest gear if you think you can get a burn of that disc..
your wheel is going much faster than the crank arm rotation.. wheel mounted discs will get hot .. this one will never get close to really get hot..unless you peddal your ass of..
i personally think fixies are stupid bikes and not safe..esp. in traffic.. any brake on the bike is an improvement to me...

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Lachlan-S (Feb 27, 2010 at 16:02)

Yeah you guys are missing the point of trying to do something different, that is what moves the sport forward if everyone did the same thing we wouldn't progress. It is only up untill someone who has decided to do something different has actually improved the performance. It may sound stupid but putting a disc on the spindle is an experiment. Obviously if the guy thought it was worse than any other spot he might take it off, but without him there would be no improvement.

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xpirimint (Feb 27, 2010 at 20:00)

maybe the disc should be on the same side as the sproket and both of them could have a chainguard covering them and the brake mount could be around the bottom bracket or downtube
that sounds better to me

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Gsnickets (Mar 10, 2010 at 19:05)

fr3erid3r.... you really need to think a bit more before you post..... you don't know shit about bikes.

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xpirimint (Mar 10, 2010 at 22:01)

you think this is a bright idea?

YOU obviously dont know much about bikes... you think this concept is clever because youve never seen it before?

give me 1 reason why a fixie is even practical in the first place, and then why this brake setup is...
then maybe you know something, and don't give an idiots answer please. or just admit you dont really know what you are talking about

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Gsnickets (Mar 11, 2010 at 6:20)

you said, "..... freewheel is in the bottombracket right? so braking wouldn't affect the crankarm from pedaling backwards?" if this were an old schwinn freewheel crank, putting the BRAKE on the side it's on would do absolutely nothing, unless you were pedaling, it then would only apply a resistance to your pedaling and not actually slow the bike down. obviously you didn't think that one through too much. so yes, braking would affect you from pedaling backwards..... or pedaling at all for that matter.

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xpirimint (Mar 11, 2010 at 17:17)

i meant "so wouldn't braking affect the crankarm from pedaling backwards?"

that was a typo

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Gsnickets (Mar 12, 2010 at 0:27)

"YOU obviously dont know much about bikes... you think this concept is clever because youve never seen it before?" you also implied that I thought this was a clever concept.... which I still cannot see where that can be inferred anywhere in my post. I personally think that putting a brake on a fixie is about the gayest thing you can do. If you're going to run a brake on a fix geared bike.... ride a single speed. Even if your post was a typo, it still shows how little you know about bikes..... if it's a fixie, and you're applying the brake, what the hell does it matter if you can't pedal backwards? using that braking setup or using a rim brake will give the same affect to your pedaling ability while braking.....

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cyberhawk Plus (Mar 12, 2010 at 0:39)

it goes on and on..
using that braking setup or using a rim brake will give the same affect
no it doesnt !
they skid.. its used for that.. so its instant blocking of the wheel .. this is a more clean setup (i suppose) and this will block more effective..

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Gsnickets (Mar 12, 2010 at 1:11)

if you actually stop and think about it.... a rim brake is just a really big disk brake to begin with. if the cranks and the rear wheel are locked into rotation, it doesn't matter if the braking system is on the cranks, or the wheel.... it'll lock the damn thing up, which is the absolute most power you can have.

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xpirimint (Mar 12, 2010 at 14:56)

but this stops the crank, not the wheel
the reason the wheel stops is because of the chain, right? thats the main reason why i think its stupid

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Gsnickets (Mar 13, 2010 at 8:55)

it's the same as if the rider were to use his legs to slow down, maybe even less stress on the drive train

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xpirimint (Mar 13, 2010 at 17:59)

well a disc brake would have more stopping power than a person... so I'd say a lot more stress on the drive train

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Gsnickets (Mar 13, 2010 at 20:52)

a good rider can lock the wheel up instantaneously, just the same as a disc brake....

"but this stops the crank, not the wheel" ----- this is showing how little you really think before you type.

"the reason the wheel stops is because of the chain, right? thats the main reason why i think its stupid" -------- wtf does a real rider use to stop the wheel? his hand on the tire?

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xpirimint (Mar 13, 2010 at 23:58)

god you are annoying, and so is your name... but anyway

ya this whole system is stupid because it locks the crank, then all the stopping power relies on the chain being able to withstand the force, its pretty unreliable since your chain could snap. people pedal hard enough and the chain will snap, a brake will definitely be stronger than that.

what would be simpler and less destructive to the bike would be a brake on the back, like a normal one. but you obviously think this is a good idea and thats enough for me to stop talking to you, total waste of my time to try and get through to someone that thinks this is intuitive...

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Gsnickets (Mar 14, 2010 at 0:16)

never once have I said that I thought this was a good idea... you keep making up absolute bullshit. as I've stated, i think a brake on a fixie is quite possibly the dumbest thing around. the main point of you're argument is a false statement.

when someone is riding a fixie they stop the crank by applying a backwards force to the pedals, what the f*ck do you think transfers that power to the wheel? I don't know why you can't understand that if a rider can lock the rear wheel up on a fixie instantly, that force is the absolute maximum transfered through the system, no matter how infinitely hard a hydro caliper may apply force to the rotor. you might be the dullest person on here.

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xpirimint (Mar 14, 2010 at 4:59)

that depends on ur weight too, i think fixies are just pointless bikes, maybe we can agree on that

i dont even know when im bitching about the brake when i dont like anything about fixies anyway, i just think this made them less practical then i thought possible...

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sam264 (Mar 16, 2010 at 16:29)

Gsnickets is right, it won't cause the chain to snap, all it will do is lock up the rear wheel and cause the rear wheel to skid

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xpirimint (Mar 16, 2010 at 18:17)

ya if the chain is strong enough right?
i just think this is kinda stupid is all...

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Gsnickets (Mar 16, 2010 at 18:46)

your complete lack of knowledge of bikes is absolutely stunning.

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xpirimint (Mar 16, 2010 at 21:06)

if the chain wasnt there, would the wheel stop with this brake system? just answer me that

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cyberhawk Plus (Mar 17, 2010 at 0:45)

eventually..

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sam264 (Mar 17, 2010 at 6:14)

Of course it wouldn't... I think it's stupid too, but you don't seem to understand how it works.

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Gsnickets (Mar 17, 2010 at 14:48)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOjx6qI2sIk the f*cking chain is strong enough. watch the video and shut up about the god damn chain breaking.

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xpirimint (Mar 18, 2010 at 15:31)

ya cause everyone leans so that most of the weight is on the front wheel

everything about fixies is kinda dumb to me so theres no point in arguing that so im really done with you Gsnickets
whered you get the nerve for a name like that anyhow?

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frolosophy (Mar 20, 2010 at 2:08)

if the chain wasn't there, the brake would do nothing. but if the brake could snap the chain, and the brake does exactly the same thing as a rider, by this logic, every time someone riding a fixie decides to stop, they would snap their chain. personally, i don't like the idea of transferring braking power through a chain, but it does work, and anyone who has ever ridden a fixie can tell you that.

by the way, ad hominem attacks do nothing but discredit your own argument, so for future reference, stick to the subject matter and you'll be taken more seriously. if you're going to argue, at least make it productive.

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xpirimint (Mar 20, 2010 at 11:17)

ya i think thats kinda stupid

why not just a discbrake on the hub? it would stop quicker and more effectively, and wouldn't put the chain at risk
i think it just makes fixies more ridiculous than they already are

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sam264 (Mar 20, 2010 at 11:32)

IT WON'T SNAP THE CHAIN

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Borgschulze (Mar 20, 2010 at 11:43)

If this brake setup broke the chain, it would have broke a long time ago from the rider pedaling it.

Quit replying to this stupid argument, I'm sick of it showing up on my dashboard.

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feardabeast (Apr 16, 2010 at 19:33)

WTF thats the single dumbest idea ever, disk brakes and legs dont mix!

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xpirimint (Apr 17, 2010 at 15:52)

^
ya they do mix, like it would in a blender

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mcdoogus (Apr 26, 2010 at 12:01)

new crank stopper?

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trekriderOWS16 (Jul 22, 2010 at 6:08)

fixieeeee

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kev1n (Jan 11, 2010 at 21:48)

but then again, i just imagined the crazy drifts you could pull with this bike...

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kev1n (Jan 11, 2010 at 21:47)

well its an original idea, without a doubt. But its definitely one of those things that looks better on paper than in real life. and not to mention to safety hazards!

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seraph (Jan 12, 2010 at 18:28)

Are you kidding? This thing looks amazing in real life. I saw it in person at Interbike a few years ago and it looks mint.

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odin333 (Jan 29, 2010 at 23:07)

hes probably talking about how it seemed like a good idea till you did it. your risking major burns and cuts by putting it right by your leg. though it is a pretty cool idea.

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haighd2 (Mar 15, 2010 at 6:49)

no its a stupid idea on paper and in real life

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adammoore (Jun 28, 2011 at 16:13)

u need to try to put the brake behind the sprocket which would make so u didn't cut or burn your self

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seb1952 (Apr 18, 2010 at 13:53)

But also if you have a flipflop hub i dont think you can put a normal brake setup

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liico13 (Jan 13, 2010 at 20:49)

O.O
WTF...!

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dnastybmx (Jan 13, 2010 at 21:12)

FIXIE!

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reubarbcustard (Feb 4, 2010 at 13:33)

its for fixed wheel roadies

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haighd2 (Mar 15, 2010 at 6:52)

thanks for clearing that up, we were all thinking it was for trials

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charliebattin (Apr 27, 2010 at 12:27)

this is SOOOOOOOOO BLOODY STUPID, the chain would just snap, stupid fixies

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MarioSubsin (Jan 16, 2010 at 11:52)

WTF?

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Hawi (Jan 12, 2010 at 13:13)

Nice patent 4 fix. But real fixie aint have brakes Big Grin

Big Grin

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cretin82 (Jul 4, 2011 at 16:58)

this would be a good idea if your riding a fixe

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tim-intense (Jan 10, 2010 at 18:24)

all i can imagine is the disk slicing a chunk off your ankle

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haighd2 (Mar 15, 2010 at 6:47)

does your chain ring slice chunks off your ankle? no becuase its not moving relative to your foot soo neither would this, however it is totally retarded.

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Kongy (Jan 13, 2010 at 17:44)

haha thats legit!!

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tim-intense (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:31)

defeats the object of a 'fixie'

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nz-brendan (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:51)

it does but is still a sick idea

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seraph (Jan 12, 2010 at 18:26)

How does it defeat the object of a fixie? It's still fixed.

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haighd2 (Mar 15, 2010 at 6:45)

ive been told that the object of a fixie is to have a simple reliable cheap bike. however none of these reasosn stack up and as far as i can see there isnt a compelling reason for riding a fixie in the 1st place. also hydralic disc brakes are not simple reliable or cheap

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charliebattin (Apr 27, 2010 at 12:30)

its a good idea but just wouldnt work

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jooeey-t-nutter (May 10, 2010 at 10:57)

charlie it does work because its a fixie, iv seen people with these

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ParkMachine94 (Jan 13, 2010 at 14:14)

f*ck FIXIES

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cali-rid-305 (Jan 10, 2010 at 14:12)

its a brake for a fixie and yes it is retarded

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abel95 (Mar 29, 2010 at 11:33)

OMFG.xd

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nikienvo (Jun 4, 2010 at 7:46)

Nice work!
That's fun!

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PaTis (Feb 14, 2011 at 10:46)

hebel w korbie xD

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diogodavinha (Jan 13, 2010 at 17:47)

nice!simple and creative!)

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Maksimbike (Jan 13, 2010 at 17:41)

what the f*ck?

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FraDH (Jan 17, 2010 at 8:19)

Waste of money and time designing that shit

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zhayne (Jan 10, 2010 at 14:03)

shouldnt they put a bashgaurd on it so it doesnt cut the rider?

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odin333 (Jan 29, 2010 at 23:04)

a bashguard stops stuff from being bashed, not people being cut. plus you can't put a bashguard on a rotor Wink

Wink

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serosogodfather (Jan 10, 2010 at 13:30)

breaks on fixies are for the weak, along with coastbreaks and freewheel.

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kasonscott (Jan 10, 2010 at 18:27)

just stupid

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RicardoHeidtmann (Jan 12, 2010 at 18:57)

thats genial

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drz112 (Mar 27, 2010 at 12:41)

calling Leg burns

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marcirider (Mar 25, 2010 at 13:09)

fixed gear idiots
Big Grin

Big Grin

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y-aye-japs-eye (Mar 6, 2010 at 11:55)

mint that is mint

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mr-goon (Jan 10, 2010 at 14:12)

That would just cut your legs up, and it would get so dented. Gayy!

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seraph (Jan 12, 2010 at 18:27)

How would it get dented? This is a road bike, not a mountain bike.

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mr-goon (Jan 12, 2010 at 20:10)

woops! my bad.

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kasonscott (Jan 10, 2010 at 18:27)

it would do anythig anyway other then stop the chain from spinning

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