Its around 23, i had dodgy scales... you obviously dnt know much about light parts. forks are one of lightest on market, wheelset is very light, but strong, frames average, saints arent heavy, not light obv. do the math.

 ok bro, well your wheelset is not light, your fork is around 4 pounds(could be lighter) saints ARE heavy and the frame is average. i run parts entirely lighter than yours (aside from bars/ stem) and my bike is around 24 lbs. 23 pounds is debateable, but possibly true. 21.5 is just not possible with this spec.

 Your calling 545g rims, 110g front hub not light? go find me lighter. forks are 3.5 lb, i dno what you call light cranks but sub 1kg with a bb is respectable. and i can give u a full spec list that comes out at under 23lb so id be quiet if i were you. end of conversation, stop clogging my pic up with useless rants of something u know bugger all about.

 lol.

 im not dissagreeing that it isnt light, but 21.5lbs? i dont think so. i know you re did your weight so its more reasonable. sorry about this useless argument/ misconception.

 i said about the highest not the highest possible, wheels dt swiss and mavic arent any better weight to strength wise, kings maybe, but theyre heavier so no, headset isnt bad, and the brake works, and its not a dh bike so technically it makes no difference. and its the highest spec traffic ive seen.

 just because your jealous as hell doesnt mean you can say that. yeah fair enough its not highest spec ever, but jesus its a good bike

 yeah jealous, my dj ride had atlas bars and cranks, hope tech m4 ( was a mono mini ) spank stiffys on pro 2 hope headset bb and front qr, hope seat clamp, dmr v12 pedals, peaty grips, dmr moto diggers, e13 chainring, gusset seat and post. So no im not jealous.

 with that spec you should be lol.

 why would you want m4 brakes on a dj? LOL too powerful mate. if you want hope brakes on a dj get like some trail ones or sumat. :L. and yeah its not good spec 2bh

 better spec than this, this frame is better but my componentry was higher, also i had an m4 because i can.

 haha id relook at your componentry mate, its clearly nowhere near my spec...

 no its better. even though i would have liked to try some foxes out just becaus ethier so light

 ok lets break this down: atlas cranks are worse than saints, atlas bars are worse than controltech scandiums, spank stiffys on pro2 = freedom disc on pro 2 and 3, stronger but shitloads heavier, hope headset = fsa pig pro, v12 pedals are worse than nc17 sud pin pro III, moto diggers are a pile of wank compared to sb8 and raceking, chainring e13 not as good as renthal, no bash so no comparison, grips are grips, gusset seat and post heavier and generally not as good as macneil pro, the only thing that yours is better is the m4, but like i said, a brakes a brake on a dj bike. your frames worse, your forks are worse. the only thing you have on me apart from the brake is a stronger rim, but considering the freedoms havent slightly bent hooking up on 30 foot jumps and me being a general hack i see your rims as being worse, as its completely unnneccesary weight for no relistically needed gain. you lose, quite badly. sorry.

 oh yeah, and what forks then? :L probs darts or sumat

 well ive got 831s on the way

 lucky . i cba to argue. its not worth it.

 at the end of the day everyone loves their bike right?

 theres not that much competition though, not many people use the traffic frame as the base for a high specced well thought out build to be fair

 yeah its going, the whole bike

 are you having a bubble!

 the fox is a float, so you can pump it up as hard as you want the fact that its qr instead of bolt thorugh can be noticed on the 4x track though, if im completely hoest.

 Can the qr be changed to a bolt through?

 Nah its a qr specific hub, which is why its so light

 haha gd joke. I very very much doubt that.

 Not anymore, only rims and forks for sale. check my latest pic of it and youll c why

 Not really. go find me a better traffic.

 posted or collected?

 just rims

 Just rims

 tbf its lighter than most peoples bmx's

 do i look stupid...

 68/73 mtb not spanish

 slam69.co.uk

 stop tempting me just imagine what the shine will weigh... and thats a full sus

 if you added like 500 quid maybe

 32 13

 really lol?
thats the exact ratio im gonna go for how is it?

 on 26s its on the hard side, but if you use any slight inclination it is perfect for when you get going and for general riding around etc i love it. plus with the chain when its brand new i run the backwheel fully slammed and the chain fits like a glove, as shown in the pics so no gay tightening and stretching the back wheel out for chain tension.

 im guessing it would be slighly easier on 24's eh?

 yep, but im not a fan of 24s on a traffic anyways

 well theyre up for 250 without tyres/tubes. make me an offer

 It doesnt look like this anymore, and isnt really for sale unless your really serious. pm me.

 ye i am serious iv seen the pics off what it looks like now so how much

 check your inbox

 100mm

 Nah, dnt think im selling it any more, not at tht price anyway

 how much would you pay?

 dw not for sale anymore

 sound. PM me and ill give you my paypal etc

 26, can you not tell just by looking?

 cheers man

 Saints.