US taxpayer at none in Fallbrook, California, United States - photo by mudd

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angrynipples (Sep 29, 2011 at 15:58)

honestly, just increase taxes and legalize/tax weed = problem solved.

melikebikealot14 (Sep 29, 2011 at 23:59)

If only it was that simple. Politics in the US are so indecisive, nothing is ever going to get done. I've lost sooo much faith over the past 4 years. Promises were made, but never kept. Change will never come in the way that we want it, politics have become uncontrollable.

angrynipples (Sep 30, 2011 at 20:05)

no dude i completely agree. I served in the 10th Mountain Infantry Division for a few years. I know how it works. Obviously doing these things wont really change anything like we hope they will. Honestly the further we get into debt, the more I just want to move to Kamloops or Kelowna. I'm getting kinda fed up with the States, especially after slaving myself in the military.

melikebikealot14 (Oct 5, 2011 at 16:06)

Yeah me too man, that's why I'm up in Vancouver for college! Get up here man it's boss, the news is so lame compared to the states because everything is so chill and they don't really have problems like we do in the states. Also, thanks for serving our country man, really. My grandpa was in the 10th during WWII so I think it's dope as hell that you were keeping it real for the 10th.

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EasyKillah (Oct 3, 2011 at 13:07)

That was just one of a few i read and the basic layout of the buffet rule is to decrease taxes for those paying 250 000 - 1 000 000 a year from 35% to 25%, also increasing the taxes on capital gains from the now current 15% to 25% thus evening out the middle and upper class. the point is to make it more attractive for businessmen to invest in their companies and employees than personal investment. part of the rule (which is a strict guidline for the attempted bill that is on the table) is to close loopholes for overseas tax-free bank accounts and corporate deductions. This "rule" is an outline for a tax reform that IS on the table. You might remember that being your initial complaint about obama (as stated above). You have to see that i'm not the one being ignorant here, i've been reading on things like this for a while now and as far as i can see the only obstacle for things like this being put into play is the resistance from the republican congressmen. the reason this kind of thing even intetrests me is that we face similiar problems here in canada but we dont have any one person to blame and definately noone to try and help us. by the way calling people stupid does NOT reflect intelligence but ignorance and intolerance. people like you are cattle moving which ever way they are told to move. Your simply full of hate and anger but you don't have anyone to blame. I feel sorry for you. Show me some bills that obama has passed or attempted to pass that you disagree with and then come talk to me. you cant simply say that my country is in bad shape and the leadership is to blame.

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EasyKillah (Oct 3, 2011 at 13:07)

try to find out what actually has been done and read as much as you can before you just sling blame around. for instance Bush's hundereds of billions of dollars handouts for corporations and lending agencies, while he lowered the taxes on capital gains by 5% came directly out of your pockets. not to mention the trillions spent on overseas war efforts. nothing bad to say about him tho... despit the fact that he couldnt put two sentences together he won the publics favour while raping them in the ass. That actually happened. saying obama is raising taxes for the middle class is just untrue. he is trying to do the opposite and the buffet rule is an example of what he's been laying on the table for future policy (hopefuly near future). Now, i've stated my opinion and youve shown your true colors (I'm sure your parents would be proud of what an ignorant intolerant ass you've become) let's just part ways before we both get banned from pinkbike. however since you mentioned it, trolling is when you go to forums and comment sections and pick fights with people for no good reason. I'm sure that when people read this and ask themselves who is attacking who the troll becomes obvious....

henrytgreene (Oct 13, 2011 at 12:50)

True. I thought the U.S. was doomed when they voted in Obama, but he's not as bad as he could have been.

Now politics is a fashion show for people who have money, there's no political part of it (look at Donald Trump, if he were to get elected into office, I would come visit Canada for 4-8 years). All I've heard about the next election is "defeating Obama", there's no plan to fix the economy.

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mudd (Sep 30, 2011 at 6:57)

Herman Cain for President! http://www.hermancain.com/h

poidog (Sep 30, 2011 at 10:10)

^^^^ I SECOND THAT VOTE!! You know who said..Iam here for change, what he didn't tell us was...CHANGE YOU WILL SUBMIT TO!!!! Enough is enough! we must return to, for the people, by the people, and NOT, for the president, by the president.
Just my 2 cents.

dirtjump132 (Sep 30, 2011 at 11:00)

Herman Cain with Ron Paul as vice prez would kick so much ass!!

mudd (Sep 30, 2011 at 11:03)

^^^ I agree!

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doctorz (Sep 29, 2011 at 17:17)

so true my friend so true

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EasyKillah (Sep 29, 2011 at 15:12)

then let obama tax the super rich 1% of your population that controls half of your money cuz he's the only one that will. Oh and blame the dumbest president in history mr bush for your current situation.

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suicidedownhiller (Sep 29, 2011 at 15:17)

Bush didn't cause this. And f*ck taxing anyone excessively.

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badbadleroybrown (Sep 29, 2011 at 15:53)

Seriously dude... pandering your left wing ignorance on every picture you can find or what? Obama has increased the debt and the rate at which it's increasing more than Bush ever even dreamed possible. Taxing the super-rich... yeah, cause they pay income tax right??? Dumbshit... people like Warren Buffet haven't paid income tax since the 70's because they... wait for it... don't earn "income"... they earn "capital gains" meaning they're making money off their money, not from jobs. Increasing the income taxes for high earners does nothing but kill small businesses... the people making $300k a year in income aren't the people living lavish lives of excess, they're the people starting bike shops and employing ten idiots like you. If Obama has his, those small businesses day and we're one step closer to the completion of his Cloward-Piven plan for destroying the basis for our capitalist system... as soon as the free market can no longer create jobs and employ the populous, Obama's puppet-masters have their socialist foothold in America.

suicidedownhiller (Sep 29, 2011 at 15:57)

^ can you run for president please?

EasyKillah (Sep 29, 2011 at 16:38) (Below Threshold) show comment

it's kinda funny that we're both kinda arguing the same point only your being a total jack ass about it. i'm not talking about taxing small businesses and middle class i'm talking about those guys that make millions every year off of things like capital gains and stocks, and the thousands of loopholes that allow them not to pay taxes on it. I also read about how obama was trying to lower the debt before all of the us went into default and he was promptly shut down by the entire country that wanted to raise the debt ceiling and borrow boatloads more money.

badbadleroybrown (Sep 29, 2011 at 18:54)

We're not arguing the same point at all... that you think that only shows how clueless you are. I'm stating facts relative to the reality of the American economy and you're talking out your ass from Canada... huge difference. Seriously... just stop.

dirtjump132 (Sep 30, 2011 at 11:00)

hahaha Did I seriously just read that EasyKillah read Obama was trying to lower the debt!! LOLZ

Stick to your canadian problems bro, you obviously don't know jack about ours

EasyKillah (Oct 2, 2011 at 14:32) (Below Threshold) show comment

look up the buffet rule, also look up how obama plans to lower the debt by over 4 trillion dollars in 10 years. i found many articles to this matter so it shouldn't be very hard. or try http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-09-20/-buffett-rule-on-u-s-taxes-seen-as-easier-said-than-done.html that rule actually lowers taxes for personal income while raising taxes for capital gains thus encouraging those with money to invest more into business endeavors than personal investments.

badbadleroybrown (Oct 2, 2011 at 17:35)

Holy shit... it's actually impressive how ignornant you are. Did you even read the article that you linked to? You seriously just need to stop posting, it's getting to the point where your ignorance is going beyond amusing and quickly approaching embarassing. I don't know where you went to school but the district should be ashamed that anyone passed through their gates this ill-equiped for logical thought.

Here's a hint... the so-called "Buffet Rule" that you're referring to ISN'T A RULE or any type of legislation at all... it's just an abstract principle being pushed by the liberals stemming from Warren Buffet's assertion that the $6 million and change he paid in taxes was less in terms of the percentage of overall earnings than what his secretary paid.

So... not only does that 'rule' NOT "lower taxes for personal income while raising taxes for capital gains".... it doesn't even f*cking exist!!! Please just shut up now... that you can't even read an article that you're linking to which clearly outlines for you how the Buffet rule is nothing more than a principle is just further evidence that you really have no clue what you're talking about and are at this point just trolling because you can't accept the reality that you are wrong, period.

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