None at Moos in Swansea, Wales - photo by Trailboss-Dan

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June 2011, building the pump to helter skelter on small line. Was fun times, got closed down a week later.

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James-Carey (Dec 21, 2011 at 13:24)

So jelly of this! much narrower than i thought though. definitely not as nuts as the barend one (in a good way

what size bars do you run with 2 inches of clearance?

Trailboss-Dan (Dec 21, 2011 at 13:28)

yeh its wider in the other pic we hadn't built the sides up at this point, early stages. I'm running the deluxe bars I think there 29", clearance was about 3-4 inches on either side

James-Carey (Dec 21, 2011 at 13:40)

so tight man. I need one in my life Wink

i guess i better get shovelling

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dmrgarry (Dec 22, 2011 at 3:18)

uchhhhh sad times, that was gonna be so epic, hope we get to ride it in the end.. trains on it would be savage.

Trailboss-Dan (Dec 22, 2011 at 5:16)

ye man theres still hope

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derfmtb (Dec 21, 2011 at 13:39)

That is so good! I wish we had nice dirt..

James-Carey (Dec 21, 2011 at 13:41)

No real excuse, look at 9th street, some of the best trails in the world with some of the worst dirt in the world, get shovelling Salute

derfmtb (Dec 21, 2011 at 13:58)

Haha i can assure you the dirt at ours is sooo much worse!

James-Carey (Dec 21, 2011 at 14:00)

im going to need proof of that, the 9th street stuff is awful

Trailboss-Dan (Dec 22, 2011 at 0:24)

yeh im interested what dirt have you got

James-Carey (Dec 22, 2011 at 3:10)

All i can think of is pete, but that will have some sort of usable dirt under it and 90% of the time has clay under it within about 4 ft of digging. Or florida sand, but as you dont live in florida...

derfmtb (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:29)

The dirt is just too thin.. And we thought we'd get clay if we kept digging, Only got big stones then gravel! Takes a lifetime to go solid. So we've resorted to using the sandy clay at the side of the river, bit of an effort to get it up to the jumps but worth it

Trailboss-Dan (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:30)

what is thin dirt!?

derfmtb (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:31)

Not sure, Fine is what i mean i guess.. So crumbly and is terrible for packing

James-Carey (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:32)

pics of the dirt?

derfmtb (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:37)

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/6183068/

Trailboss-Dan (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:41)

yeh fair enough looks shit, id say that shits been dumped there doesnt look like normal soil to me

James-Carey (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:42)

I have that stuff at the top end of my sand trails. honestly if you make it really wet then shape it up, leave it for a week or so that stuff goes rock. If you can find some clay to mix with it it acts as good padding with the dirt and makes it go further too. nothing that cant be managed with easily.

My personal preference is solid clay as opposed to the sandy type stuff dan has at moos. But making do is all part of trails, using the problems to your benefit is what makes a true trail builder

Trailboss-Dan (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:49)

Agree clay is important, there are disadvantages though with pure clay, it cracks alot when its drying as it shrinks more, plus its harder to dig and shape.

I think we got the best of both with our dirt, its sticky enough to build vert sides and backs but doesnt stick to your spade and doesnt crack

James-Carey (Dec 22, 2011 at 10:51)

I like being able to dig in edges and just slab stuff up. also the durability once built rocks. but i do get where your coming from. i mean the wisley dudes mix sand into their clay for that reason. always surface in sand though for that perfect finish

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potthead (Dec 21, 2011 at 17:46)

hold up, moos got shut down?

Trailboss-Dan (Dec 22, 2011 at 0:18)

pic from summer

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