Posted by
RichardCunningham
Nov 3, 2012

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  • + 28
 for downhill, somebody should make a decent 7 or 8 speed cassette and chain etc, more people would buy it because you dont need 9 or 10 gears for downhill and it would be more durable! the chains are just too thin on 10 speed and because the gap between each gear is so small its hard to keep them in tune
  • + 12
 exactly. I use 3-4 of my gears on my DH bike unless I'm riding wheelies in the parking lot. Less is certainly more
  • + 7
 You can make your own by simply removing some of the cogs, and adjusitng your limit screws. I'm on a 6 speed using a Shimano 9 speed derailleur and 9 speed shifter. I don't have any issues with snapped chains.
  • + 6
 Of course you can, but it will still be a 9-speed chain and 9 speed cogs... which are way less durable than an oldschool 8-speed drivetrain, even when comparing low-budget old stuff with nowadays' high-end one.
  • + 10
 That just not gonna happen. No manufacturer will make a high-end chain and cassette which you could run for a year or two... they would lose all the profit.
  • + 3
 my dh bike runs a shimano slx cassette (9spd 11-34) and i removed the alloy carrier with the large 3 rings threw in a few bb spacers and a longer limit adjust screw in my m810 saint mech and bobs your uncle 11-23 6spd cassette

getto'd to f*ck works a treat though Wink
  • + 2
 exactly , 7 cogs whith a descent chain thikness, tired of snaping the 9 cogs chain , and it's a pain in the ass fix them when you have no adecuate tools. Why not focus it for tandems and travel bicycles bikes, whith so many products I dond understant why they don't make one. If they add one more cog the thing would become almost ridiculous...
  • + 4
 I use a hope pro 2 evo ss hub, ghetto 6 speed, I've never bothered with expensive derailleurs either... Ghetto seems to be the name of the game with DH...
  • + 2
 Still rocking an 8 speed shimano 105 for DH lol it's on its last legs, also has some ghetto fixes, I really only use the last 4 or 5 gears going downhill, the others come in handy when climbing back to the top(can't have uplifts everyday and it's still faster than walking the bike)
  • + 2
 I run a 7 speed and I find it Perfect! 9-10 Speed seems like to much. . .

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  • + 1
 I would have no problem with 8 or 7 gears but I got a 10 speed stock on my Glory 0 and until the day it breaks I see no need for changing it, but one thing I do notice is that I never have got to the point of using the last two gears, so I guess an 8 speed is ideal for dh
  • + 1
 on a scale from 1 to 11 ... nein nein nein nein nine..
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  • + 16
 Wish Gearboxes were more popular.. I loved my Hammerschmidt..
  • + 6
 Yeh, but its all money most people don't have...
  • + 1
 600 for a not that light crankset, no thanks if i bought a bike with one of those on the first thing i would do is sell it, too much value not enough performance gain
  • + 4
 It is weight in the only place that doesn't matter. The extra lbs there right where you are putting all your weight don't do much. I'd take it if I could afford it.
  • + 2
 I couldn't agree more, @taletotell I think they are great and weight isn't that big of a deal from my standing point, if I got one I would keep it but i'm not in the economical position to buy one
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  • + 9
 Nine, if someone out there makes a 11-40 nine speed cassette that would be wonderful. I'm not a roady, I don't need eight percent steps to maintain 105rpm at 150watts, I just want a nice wide set of ratios and I'm not getting rid of my lovely old xt set up to get it.
  • - 12
 Check out XX1
  • + 6
 Willie, did you read a single word I typed? I want a nine speed cassette, to keep my ultra reliable 2006 XT cranks, shifter, my King hubs and most of all I don't want spend a thousand pounds on SRAM's proprietary piss take.
Now, why should I check out XX1 again?
  • - 1
 I agree but i'd prabably prefer it in 10 speed just to keep things smoother. Only problem is the rear mechs aren't designed to accomodate a cassette that size so it would probably rip your mech off the hanger.
  • + 4
 instead of having a 40t big ring follow hope's thinking, if the cassette was part of the hub rather than a bolted on bit you can put a 9t small ring on the cassette allowing you to get the same sort of ratios as with a 11-40 with a 9-34 or something simalar, would allow a smaller front chainring as well giving more effective bb clearance
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  • + 7
 9 at the moment but I wish someone made 6sp group for gravity riding with a much beefier chain.
  • + 2
 8 speed chains are beefier than 9/10 jobbies. If you can find the cassettes and a shifter you can fit them to existing 9 speed parts (mech, hubs etc). I know a couple of big guys that do this, it's cheap too.
  • - 4
 its called engineering.

the guys at sram and shimano wouldn't be making these 9/10/11 speed groupsets if they didn't think they would be strong enough, newer technologies in manufacture and materials allow these thinner chains to be just as strong when they are built right

chances are you're buying the wrong stuff!!
  • + 3
 I agree that 10/11 speed can be beneficial for xc or trail riding but releasing the saint group set in 10 speed is a piss take. Theres no need for it and no market. As you can see from the chart most of us are running 9 speed because we don't want to be ripped off. Shimano are just trying to force you to upgrade your entire group set.
  • + 0
 the whole bike industry is guilty of that one!!!

it was the same a few years back when going to nine speed was making chains "way too narrow" people will realize that skinny chains can still be made strong if you do it right.

there is no denying that most of the time dh riders use the whole of 5 gears when descending but having a few extra for riding home at the end of the day is allways helpful, that is why shimano put long limit adjust screws in the new saint so if you dont want extra gears you dont have to run them, besides skinny chains do smooth shifting up and if you replace your chain more often it will make your chainrings/casettes last longer

dont think im trying to sell the new stuff here my dh bike still has a chopped 9spd cassette on it and probably will do until it fails but i can understand where the designers are coming from and there are definately big benifits to be had from the new designs
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  • + 8
 9'S ENOUGH 10 OR 11 is excessive
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  • + 6
 What the deuce is an eleven speed cog?
  • + 4
 campagnolo
  • + 1
 Campag.. They have been of my radar in so long. Take it they are still big on the racer scene?
They used to do awesome smooth bearing hubs, had campag records on my first real mtb
  • + 1
 Or was it campag centaur? On of the two
  • + 1
 still the pretty and exotic niche group in road...
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  • + 6
 I really wish I had a gearbox...

Dead Horse
  • + 1
 Zerode Nicolai Cavaleire
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  • + 5
 9 gears on DH, and use 5 of them 99% of time. More then all you need for true DH track.
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  • + 6
 "Nine is all I need."
  • + 2
 dunno, i wouldn't mind ten
  • + 10
 I was quoting Gee Atherton from the episode of Top Gear when he raced May in Lisbon. Smile
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  • + 1
 10 speed on a dh bike is a joke. Theres no way anyone would buy a new cassette, chain, shifter and mech just to have an extra gear. These component manufacturers are taking the piss. Instead of increasing the number of gears over and over, try working on better quality products. I guarantee in a few years saint will go 11 speed.
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  • + 2
 1x10 on my dh rig, because i wrecked my old one and this one was really cheap. need the 28t cog to get up wih my dh bike.... Smile and the 11-14 for going down.

on my streetbike there is only one cog
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  • + 4
 10 on my singletrack bike, 1 on my DJ, 5 on my 4x... Brap
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  • + 2
 Shimano please make the new Zee and Saint in 9spd!! I don't wanna have to buy a new cassette and shifter just to upgrade my derailleur
  • + 3
 Hey MrBIG, I'm running the new Zee with a shimano 9 speed shifter and a 9 speed cassette reduced to 6 speeds. It works perfectly. So you don't need to upgrade anything.
  • + 1
 Me too, I just had to spend a little bit of time adjusting it but now it's running perfectly
  • + 1
 You can get a saint m810 rear mech in 9 speed. Its an amazing mech. I just hope they don't discontinue them.
  • + 1
 I agree the, M810 is awesome, it's what I used all last year, but just wanted to try the Zee, It was super cheap $68 on CRC.
  • + 1
 How did you run a zee mech on 9 speed? just literally used a 9spd shifter and cassette/chain? It almost sounds too easy haha

Would it work for the whole 9spd? I just fancy a clutch mech tbh no extra gears required
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  • + 1
 6 gears is enough on a dh bike but having a few extra can be useful if you have to pedal it far to get to your riding spot. as for xc i ride 10spd purely because you cant get a shadow plus or cage lock mech in 9spd format
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  • + 0
 Got a single speed Commencal Absolut SX tuned for one single track. Total fun and no failures.

My daughters 9 speed 951 for 2 different tracks. Runnind 2nd tallest cog.Lots of fun.

Supreme Racing on tallest cog. Very entertaining.

Supers soft Voltage 9 speed. Running tallest cog. Huge fun.

One short cog and 2-3 tall cogs are plenty. Sramano: make a simple super short cage 5-speed or a short gearbox for dh. All it needs.
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  • + 1
 When you're in the field of gravity racing/ riding, I think using 10 gears is too much. When I ride, I only use 4 gears of the 8 that I have. the other 4 just get used in long distance rides.
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  • + 3
 5-6 speed are sufficient for downhill Smile
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  • + 3
 Where is 7 cogs? Not supporting the 3 x 7 walmart bikes? C'mon RC haha.
  • + 2
 7? Luxury! Where's the option for a 5 speed screw on freewheel on a 10mm bolted cup and cone hub?
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  • + 2
 one is all i need, dj, cross country, or commuting
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  • + 3
 single speed DJ
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  • + 1
 1 on my Ragley (soon to be 10), and 10 on my next bike, buying it in a month or so...
1 on my street rig.
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  • + 1
 9 and I like it like that.
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  • + 1
 SRAM X5 wayyyyyy cheap to buy but amazing quality for the money
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  • + 1
 trying now DJ bike 27-12 with 170mm cranks and 26" wheel.
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  • + 1
 Have 9, only 8 work due to a slightly bent X0, but i only use 5th anyway
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  • + 1
 2x9 on my AM bike and 3x7 on my commuter/whenmyAMbikeisoutofaction bike!
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  • + 1
 18 lucky bastards have XX1!
  • + 1
 Or just about anything campy...
  • + 1
 and they got it for free or with a crazy discount otherwise they should start reconsidering some things...
  • + 1
 Or they're paid to use it
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  • + 1
 Nine is all you need....paparapapa....free off John Lennon Smile
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  • + 1
 Good to know I'm not the only guy running an 8 speed cassette Big Grin
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  • + 1
 1 x 6 for my TR250, 12-19 That's all I need
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  • + 1
 6 speed on my DH bike
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  • + 1
 1x7 in my dh ride 11-23
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  • + 0
 1 on dj bike, 9 on dh bike 10 on enduro bike.
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  • + 1
 1x7 on my AM hardtail Big Grin
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