Breaking News for Cypress Trails

Apr 7, 2015 at 11:50
by AlanB14  
West Vancouver and British Pacific Properties are positioned to move forward with authorized trails on Cypress. BPP recently appointed a new VP of Development, shedding new light on their plans for Cypress.

West Vancouver has slowly been moving forward with plans for land use in the Upper Lands. I know it's been slow because I've been a citizen volunteer on Upper Lands Working Group since it started in December 2012. The Working Group has been working to draft recommendations for policies and objectives for the future of the remaining undeveloped land in the Upper Lands.

British Pacific Properties changed the discussion recently when they appointed a new VP of Development. What stands out are two of his recent projects:
• Peak to Peak Gondola
• Kadenwood Gondola

There has not yet been an official announcement from BPP on their plans for Cypress, however it's easy to speculate that BPP would like to include a lift up Cypress as part of their next development. A likely location would be from around the first switchback to the knoll above the third switchback where a viewpoint/tourist centre would be a possibility. Continuing the speculation, a second lift from the third switchback across Cypress Creek all the way the Cypress ski resort might also be possible.

What this means for mountain biking has yet to be determined. BPP has said that they want mountain biking to add to the recreational vibe of Cypress Village. If you want to ask a BPP representative about their plans come out to the ULWG Open House on Thursday, April 16, 4-8 p.m. West Vancouver Community Centre, 2121 Marine Drive.

ULWG Scope 1024
Study area for the Upper Lands Working Group

Where the ULWG Started From
The 2004 Official Community Plan gave little consideration for recreation. Not only was most of the land below the 1200 foot contour designated for residential development, it allowed for the option of a variation to the 1200 foot restriction on development that would impact most of the mountain bike trails on Cypress.

OCP Designations
The 2004 OCP allowed consideration of a variation to allow residential development above 1200 feet. How many trails fall inside the 1200 foot contour variation?

ULWG Draft Recommendations
Through engaging the community, including presentations from the NSMBA, the ULWG identified 3 core community values for the Upper Lands:
1. The environmental features and systems of the Upper Lands
2. The outstanding recreation opportunities of the Upper Lands
3. A neighbourhood model that ‘works’ with nature, and is desirable, vibrant, inclusive, compact, and sustainable

As a result, the draft recommendations include:
• No residential development above 1200 feet, or west of Eagle Creek
• No further consideration of a 1200 foot variation
• A Trails Plan be prepared that balances recreational use with environmental values
• Trail Corridors be identified early in the next Area Development Plan

Draft Recommendations for Designations
Draft recommendations concentrate development around the future Cypress Village. Less sprawl. More green.

Cypress Village
So how do the trails above 1200’ connect to to the first switchback on Cypress Bowl Road? That’s where plans for Cypress Village become important. Cypress Village is the next development for British Pacific Properties. It will be located somewhere around the first switchback, likely south of Cypress Bowl Road on the flat area with the awesome view. BPP wants it to have a strong recreational vibe, featuring a Whistler-style retail complex with a public square.

This is where plans for mountain biking and the Village start to mesh. Having the Village as a staging area for mountain biking has been part of the plan since 2007. BPP has seen what mountain biking has done for summer tourism in Whistler. They want mountain biking to contribute to making Cypress Village a vibrant, economically sustainable destination. A recent Globe and Mail article says they want “good restaurants and pubs for mountain bikers”.

Cypress Trails
Renderings of Cypress Village show a Whistler-style retail complex with a public square.

What About The Trails?
Plans indicate that mountain biking has a strong future on Cypress, but what about the trails? What is the vision for the recreational trails? This is where things get considerably murkier.

The current plan is for public trails on public lands. This requires a balance between the needs of the landowner and the recreational users, all while respecting the area’s environmental values. This is to be done early in the Cypress Village ADP process. The goal is that West Vancouver continue to work with private landowners and seek public ownership of private lands with high potential for recreation.

This is where the vision for trails becomes critical. With BPP wanting to make Cypress Village a recreation destination for the region and the way mountain biking could draw people to Cypress the way it does to Whistler, the potential is enormous. However if West Van Parks ends up with the responsibility for maintenance of the trails, their vision could be much smaller.

What’s Next?
Making authorized trails on Cypress a reality requires work by three groups;
BPP is starting a public envisioning process for Cypress Village. They want to find out what the public will support on Cypress before they can proceed with planning.
West Van Parks Department will develop a Trail Plan for the area. Discussion is expected to start this year, but the Trail Plan will not be developed until 2016.
West Van Planning Department will commence planning for the Cypress Village ADP. The draft recommendations state that this should commence on completion of the ULWG and that it be a District priority.

Shaping the Vision
The time to start shaping the vision for recreational trails on Cypress is now! The ULWG is holding Open Houses to collect public input on the draft recommendations. There will be representatives from BPP and Parks at the Open House on Thursday, April 16, 4-8 p.m. West Vancouver Community Centre, 2121 Marine Drive. This is the best opportunity to talk to the representatives, ask them what their vision is for the trails and tell them what you want and what will work.

Cypress Trails
If you can’t make it on April 16, you can still fill in the online survey on westvancouverITE before April 19. There are also Open Houses on Saturday, April 11, 10 a.m.-2 p.m. at West Vancouver Community Centre, 2121 Marine Drive and on Tuesday, April 14, 4-8 p.m. at Gleneagles Golf Club Great Hall, 6190 Marine Drive.

For more information go to westvancouver.ca/upperlands and download the draft recommendations and background report.

Come out on April 16 and have your voice heard! What would you like to see at Cypress?

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39 Comments
  • 29 2
 Another major win for Biking in BC!
  • 13 0
 Don't just post comments - fill out the survey westvancouver.ca/westvancouverITE/index.html
  • 2 0
 I've said my part- thanks for sharing this link!
  • 3 0
 Thanks for everybody's help that has helped. Let's do this right and make everything great. Especially the trails.
  • 8 0
 There are plenty of people on our side working really hard to preserve the trails on Cypress. In particular the gnar. Show up and say something. A strong united voice shows BPP that we're here and want to work together.

They want to establish a little village type thing at the bottom, which could be very civilized. Come down from shredding 5th and have a cappuccino before heading home? Could be nice.
  • 4 0
 "Less sprawl, more green". Bit late for that. It's one of the ugliest mountains I've ever seen development wise. Still, the Chinese buying the grotesque mansions up there don't mind.
  • 5 3
 Oh great, I get to fill out another survey that will be completely ignored. Sorry for my cynicism but this is like trusting Big Pharma to reform health care. Do they honestly think small retailers will be successful up there? I'm all for development but the properties BPP are currently building are not sustainable and would not be economically viable if they didn't have an effectively zero cost base. Ya, Kadenwood is a real success story that we should model Cyps after. I genuinely hope I'm wrong here - I live 5 minutes away and would love to see legal trails on Cyps - but their track record isn't pretty.
  • 2 0
 Everything helps, though. Without support the cause is doomed to failure. Be it a survey, showing up at a meeting, or donating to your local trail fairies, it actually does help.
  • 5 3
 BPP wants nice gravel paths that they dont want to have any responsibility for. I just want the original trails to stay intact. Let BPP know what the mountain bikers want. The more input from us the more BPP is forced to listen. Those dates again April 11th and the 16th. Make your self heard.
  • 4 0
 FYI - BPP has been ok with allowing the natural gnar. They didn't want new stunts (old woodwork was grandfathered). So they're a lot more open than you'd imagine.
  • 1 0
 Plenty of threads on other forums that discus in detail the relationship between BPP, DWV and. the riders. We will get trails. BPP and DWV needs to know what we want. BPP is a buisness . They tolerate mtb trails.
  • 3 1
 I agree with Aidancutting. Keep the singletrack Single! Leave all the rocks and roots where they are. If it's unridable for 80%, then keep it that way so people have something challenging to keep coming back to. Leave the unbermed switchbacks shoulder width wide and fun to get around once you get the technique.
  • 2 1
 Yeah they could keep the old trails as they are and build easier trails for groms
  • 2 0
 This is promising news. If you like Cypress please support Gord as he is very knowledgeable and committed to expert trails staying put. I ride Cypress about 80% of the time and am very happy to hear that some real support and progress is being made. Like him on Facebook and come to this meeting on April 16. If you live in the Sea to Sky and like to ride please try and show up! www.mtbcypress.ca
  • 2 0
 I'll be there on the 16th if I can. I would love to see a widespread support of the trail system that includes maintenance and improvements to the current trails, as well as additional beginner, and intermediate flow, and even addition advanced trails. If that could somehow be combined with a mountain biker's pass on whatever gondola system they plan on building, this could be a little whistler right next to Vancouver. We just need to make sure they understand that the draw isn't gravel paths, but people having a system of advancement that leads from easy flow up to big gaps, drops, roots, and rock faces.
  • 7 2
 Keep the trails just as gnarly don't change them
  • 3 0
 The gondola idea plus seasons passes for bike use. keeping as many existing trails and replacing the ones that go. That would be a good start.
  • 1 0
 The geography is too steep at the 1st switchback to build any climbing trails up. Anything west of the 1st is 5-10yrs away from development and there is good DH trails anybody can ride/build/poach. If British Properties wants to support mtb they could take down the 12ft "DO NOT TRESSPASS PRIVATE PROPERTY FINES WILL BE LEVIED" at the bottom of each side of cypress creek. It shows on most maps as the Trans Canada Trail which is supposed to be multi use. If I recall this master plan call for interest happened a couple of years ago?
  • 3 0
 Sounds like you would be well served to show up at the meeting...
  • 2 1
 Are the trails going to stay the way they are? People who ride cypress ride it for a reason. If they dumb down those trails while sanctioning them landowners are only going to end up with more unwanted illegal trails. Put in a plan to maintain the original gnarly trails and put in a few new "flow" style trails for the average riders.
  • 3 0
 You can't just "replace" roach hit....

I'll be at the meeting but I have to admit, personally I don't think this is going to go well.
  • 4 1
 keeping it real is key. might get more help on the building/maintaining side of things...
  • 1 0
 Tonight's the night! Come out to the West Van Community Centre 4-8 pm and tell people what you want for the futue of mountain biking on Cypress.
  • 1 0
 Oh yeah, mountain biking is becoming a thing, just like hiking, skiing or ...soccer. Thanks for acknowledging. I am super excited!
  • 4 2
 I would love to see a World Cup DH race hosted on Cypress in the next 5-10 years!!!
  • 5 2
 Cant wait for 5th Horseman to be rebuilt as a flow trail...
  • 2 0
 Probably helps that the VP for BPP is a fairly young and is a rider himself. Way to go Bryce!
  • 2 1
 Always stoked to see legit progress on the legal trail front.
  • 5 1
 These trails aren't illegal. They're unsanctioned. Big difference. It's not a crime to ride them or build there. Only exception is BC Parks in this area where there's an actual law on the books.
  • 3 4
 I understand that you are big on the distinction @leelau. My intent wasn't to get into that, but only to express my support for the informed discussion that this article is promoting. Call them what you will, but I'll always advocate for both legal and sanctioned trails.
  • 6 2
 I am a nitpick about the distinction because sloppy use of the word "illegal" to depict North Shore trails is one of the many ways anti-mountain bikers have tried to use to attack bikers. Because you're in PG I understand you could care less about the distinction.

You advocacy prigs looking down your noses at unsanctioned trails are mindblowing. Slightly more than half the trails in the North Shore are sanctioned. I'll advocate for all trails - the legal, sanctioned and unsanctioned trails if you don't mind.
  • 2 1
 I don't mind at all, as long as it's for the advocacy of trails in general.

I most definitely won't apologize for being positive and expressing my support for the article, though. Although it has a great community and bike scene, I'm not in PG either.

I'll assume that you are referring directly to me here, and clarify that I'm not at all thumbing my nose at "unsanctioned" trails, and in fact ride and work on them often. My comments have only been in support of the article itself, and the movement to keep trails alive. It seems to me like you have an underlying issue with the language and approach to the advocacy efforts on the north shore, and despite my attachment to the place I'll stay the heck out of it. My biggest issue with the mountain biking community is the lack of positivity and the ongoing battle with naysayers, and I'll always aim to keep it positive and productive.

Certainly didn't expect to get pushback for supporting an initiative in an area that I ride once every 6 years.
  • 3 1
 "unsanctioned" trails are usually the best trails... Go rogue!
  • 3 2
 What @jaydawg69 said

@ldhbaker yes I was referring to you. If you're not one of the people bleating something along the lines of .... unsanctioned trails are the tool of Satan and endanger everything .... then I withdraw my comment.

95% of Cypress trails are unsanctioned. All of the Grouse private land trails on Fromme are unsanctioned (that's a good 20% of trails including a good chunk of Executioner, the top section of Expresso, a good third of Seventh); and probably 20% of Seymour (all of Severed Dick, Shorn Scrotum, Adonis, and a good chunk of C-Buster).

We stop fighting for unsanctioned trails, we lose a lot of what makes this trail system special. That IMO should be the long term view.
  • 4 1
 the last thing we want is shutting down the gnar and having NSMBA building us "sustainable" trails... gnar trails can withstand the test of time. Many examples of this.
  • 5 3
 RIP Northshore Gnar.
  • 3 0
 Show up at the meeting and have your say...
  • 2 0
 See you there people!!
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