Commencal World Premiere - Meta AM

Jun 30, 2011 at 11:39
by COMMENCAL bicycles  

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First seen in 2005, the Meta has left its mark on the world of MTB. It has been globally praised by the international press, with an inclusion among the 10 best bikes of the decade in the UK’s MBR magazine. It has seen success on the Megavalanche, the Maxiavalanche and the Enduro Series. Above all the Meta has shown a certain way of riding Enduro, where downhill performance and pleasure are combined to perfection.


To replace such a mountain bike legend is certainly no easy task. But the new Meta is upon us with the same philosophy, only better! With some of the greatest descending capabilities around (if not the best), the new Meta is also more efficient when it comes to pedaling.

The Meta AM comes with a host of improvements:

- New 12mm x 142mm standard rear hub (increased rear wheel lateral stiffness and an easy rear wheel removal/installation)
- Cane creek-standard tapered head tube
- Modernized geometry (longer, lower)
- Increased agility
- Lowered centre of gravity
- Optimized for 2 x 10 transmissions.

All of this with the aim of creating a Meta with more performance without sacrificing the fun!


CONTACT SYSTEM

The resemblance to the new Supreme DH is striking. The Meta makes use of the same suspension principles as the DH, but adapted to All Mountain use. The aim of the Contact System EVO is to increase rear wheel stiffness, reduce the forces acting on the frame so as to optimize the weight/reliability ratio and further lower the centre of gravity.


The seat stays take on the role of the connecting rods coupled to both the chain stays and rocker linkage via pivots. The progressiveness of the suspension has evolved slightly compared to the previous system for improved reactivity. The system offers a vertical travel of 150mm. The shock is mounted as a floating shock, activated by the connecting rod and the stays, resulting in considerably reduced forces acting directly on the frame.


The main pivot position has been optimized for 2 x 10 transmissions (although 3 x 10 transmissions will work without any problems). It is closely positioned to the big chainring (whether a 39, 38 or 36 tooth ring) and therefore limits kickback on the smallest chainring.

GEOMETRY

With an ambassador like Remy Absalon, the Meta has it all to win. The new version, thought out for and with Remy (and of course Jean-Yves, his mechanic!) keeps the same character traits as those of its predecessor. It has been designed to be ultra rapid downhill without forgetting the performance needed to climb uphill.

The front triangle has been completely rethought. The combination of a straighter seat tube angle and a reduced offset gives the Meta better pedalling performance, particularly in the larger sizes, as the rider will be far less over the rear wheel. The top tube has been lengthened for more space and to give the opportunity for the use of a shorter stem.


The chainstays are also lengthened for faster corner speeds and a front end that is glued to the ground during climbs. The head tube angle is slackened by 0.5° and the bottom bracket is lower (dynamically). The brake mount position is calculated to reduce the impact of braking forces on the suspension. Combine all this with the longer chainstays and you have a Meta that is not out on the downhills just for show!

The Meta is equipped with a Cane Creek standard semi-integrated tapered head tube (ZS44 for the top, ZS56 for the bottom) that is compatible with the Cane Creek Angleset. Riders can adjust their head tube angle, seatpost angle and bottom bracket height for their ideal position.



FRAME CONSTRUCTION

The Meta uses very similar solutions to the new Supreme DH. A front triangle shock tunnel is used for the very first time on one of our enduro bikes. This feature allows us to position the shock exactly where we want it, while maintaining a “closed” front triangle for optimal frame stiffness. The frames backbone is made up of two elements: the bottom bracket and the shock tunnel.

Meta - old vs new

The bottom bracket integrates the ISCG 05 mounts and the main pivot point bearings. The tunnel is composed of the rocker link/frame pivot point, the front derailleur “High D” standard mount and the arch that is united out of two forged halves assembled around the bottom bracket. Perfect alignment and positioning is possible thanks a re-machining of all the part faces after welding.

The seat tube is linked up to this tunnel, with more seat post insertion possible then in the past (about 300mm on a medium-sized frame). To obtain the largest possible surface area for the main pivot bearings while maintaining enough room for the shock, we have used Shimano’s Press Fit standard bottom brackets. All Press Fit standard 68/73mm cranksets from Shimano, Truvativ, Race Face and FSA are compatible.

The top tube is formed from two parts. The main part links up with the seat tube as close as possible to the shock tunnel, countering the forces generated by the rear suspension. The second part of the top tube allows an increase in standover height while maintaining a sufficient seat post height. The entire frame uses triple-butted 7005 alloy that, once welded, undergoes two T4 and T6 thermal treatments for reinforcement of the material’s mechanical characteristics. A micro bead blast treatment increases the material resistance even further.


The 3D parts are forged from 7005 alloy allowing a light but solid construction, while maintaining a high level of finish. The pivot points rotate on oversized bearings, a guarantee of optimal reliability and rigidity. Fifteen millimetre axles are used on the pivots found between the chain- and seatstays, the seatstays and the rocker link and the rocker link and frame. This size of axle enables us to use 7075 T6 alloy axles that are directly bolted to the frame in complete safety. The bolts used are anodized with the torque settings laser-etched on each bolt face.

The shock uses 10mm axles with the same characteristics. To allow for such a low centre of gravity, the main pivot point is formed out of two half-axles, leaving room for the shock during its action. The evacuation of and protection from mud has been carefully addressed. There is an opening under the down tube to allow better mud evacuation, with an internal cable and hose routing plug in the head tube included as standard (also valid for telescopic seatpost cable routing).

A chainstay protector, specially adapted to the frame shape is responsible for stopping all paint damage that could be inflicted by repeated slapping of the chain on the chainstay. The semi-integrated ZS44/ZS56 Cane Creek standard head tube offers a better connection between the top and down tubes, with increased rigidity and resistance. The semi-integrated Cane Creek standard avoids the risk of head tube ovalization and allows the use of an Angleset headset
(not included).

DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING

Since 2009 Commencal frames have improved their strength & reliability enormously, correcting certain faults from the past. We are able to offer proven reliable frames thanks to the barrage of tests that we use that well beyond the European standards set. We impose on our products area-specific reliability tests for each key part of the frame, followed up by testing each new platform out on the trails, in the most extreme conditions.

Numerous Meta frames are therefore produced to undergo no less then 8 different machine tests with extremely high thresholds and extreme loads. As an example, European legislation imposes a minimum 50,000 cycle resistance at a given load. We impose a resistance minimum of 1 million cycles before any fissure or crack should appear.


In addition to these machine tests, a non-negligible number of frames are produced, dedicated to terrain tests. They are given to our Super Riders and Super Testers, allowing us to develop these frames in the best possible conditions and therefore verify our results obtained during the fatigue tests. Only then are we able to offer the best Meta possible.

TECHNICAL SPECS

- Rear wheel travel: 150mm // Shock 200mm x 57mm // Mounting hardware 22.2mm x 10mm.
- Tapered head tube using Cane Creek ZS44/ZS56 standard, possibility to mount an Angleset headset, regardless of frame size.
- 180mm Postmount standard brake mount, positioned to reduce the effects of braking forces on the suspension action.
- 142mm x 12mm hub standard.
- 68/73mm crankset standard // Shimano Press Fit bottom bracket + ISCG 05 mounts.
- Triple-butted 7005 alloy frame.
- Internal cable/hose routing: front and rear derailleurs, rear brake, telescopic seatpost.
- Headtube-mounted internal cable/hose routing plug included as standard.
- Optional integrated mudguard available.
- Chainstay protector.
- Seatpost diameter 31.6mm // Seat clamp diameter 34.9mm

For more info, please visit commencal.com
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91 Comments

  • + 50
 It's like there v3 dh bike had a baby
  • + 10
 nice bike. that and the yeti sb66 seem to be aiming for the same results. a bike that you can bomb down the hill just like on their Dh bikes but also ride up the hill like their cross country bikes. If theyre as good as they say those could possibly be the funnest bikes ever and you wouldnt have to spend double or triple the money for 2 or 3 bikes for different disciplines.
any one know what pricing is going to be like?
  • - 5
 such a beautiful bike! just wait till both yeti and commencal release slightly beefier, longer travel versions.. then you will truly have 1 bike to rule them all.
  • - 20
 Dose any one have any connects threw Commencal I need to warrentie my DH frame and i cannot get ahold of them!
  • + 19
 *Does *through *warranty *a hold
If you're asking for help at least try to sound intelligent!
  • + 2
 ^ this iz the internets, who cares!
  • + 12
 Oh sorry I asked fellow bikers for a little help!
  • + 8
 www.commencal.com/register/index-eng.html
i was tempted to do a 'let me google that for you' but i felt mean
  • + 3
 Thanks man! I appreciate it!
  • + 1
 It's just so fiiiiiiiittttttttttttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 4
 Soon it will come full circle. Once upon a time we just had mountain bikes. Then they started mutating into all sorts of sub-genres. No they are mutating back.......to one bike for all tasks.
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  • + 9
 Nice bike, but that video didn't do much justice to showcase a bike with 6 inches of travel. Those were the flattest, smoothest, all-mountain single tracks I've seen in a long time for any kind of all-mountain style bike promotion...seriously. Show us what that thing is really made of or at least put a rider on that bike that will with the proper trail. LET'S SEE SOME DH!!!
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  • + 8
 the french sure do know how to make a sexy bike
  • - 5
 still french
  • + 1
 Haha, was gon post Andorran but wasn't sure Mr. Max Commençal is native Andorran or a Frenchie who moved to the principality. Big Grin
  • + 3
 The guy is definitely french, is the founder of Sunn Bicycles, huge on the BMX/DH scene in the mid/late 90s. He went to Andorra because of the no taxes on firms policy they have over there.
  • + 1
 At least its not hairy
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  • + 4
 I absolutely love how the frame looks. Tubing isn't too big and doesn't have too many weird bends to it either which gives it a more "humble" look. A sort of classic shape frame that doesn't look cheap. I really like when frames have the top tube in line(or almost) with the upper tubes of the rear triangle. Also, the mostly hidden suspension gives it a "sleeper" style I like. Excellent work.
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  • + 6
 earlier i saw a page saying freeride is dying... i think this proves otherwise!
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  • + 2
 @JonGales - I just picked up a Specialized Pitch Pro, not quite the same component specs, but it is the new definition of an AM bike. With the ProPedal and the fork "lock-out" engaged, these bikes POUND on hard pack single track/double track and ascend amazingly well with very little supsension bob. I didn't go for the fancy hydraulic seat post, so I actually take break, but once the seat goes down, the bike is a monster with steep technical rocky decents. It's not an 8" travel bike, but sometimes sure feels like it. I don't think I'll ever ride my hard-tail again.
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  • + 6
 I didn't even read the technical bits. I just know it is a sexy bike.
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  • + 1
 absolutely love how the bike looks and what their aiming for here, and by any other meta i've ever ridden hopefully it'll ride amazing too i only have one slight negative in that admittedly i havent ridden a 2010 onwards commencal and only have one mate who has had a 2010 supreme who hopefully it was an isolated incident but i cant own one of these beauties untill i know it won't crack at the welds hopefully commencal have sorted this
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  • + 1
 I'm finding it funny how they are claiming it's still based on their "contact System". The contact system they patented was a hammer activated inverted rocker link driving the shock on a static mount. This is a seat stay rocker link driving the shock on a dynamic chain stay mount making the shock fully active/floating, now where have I seen this patented before..... Hmm..
  • + 1
 I think if you'd discuss that with engineers they would agree. With marketing, they would not...
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  • + 1
 'A front triangle shock tunnel is used for the very first time on one of our enduro bikes. This feature allows us to position the shock exactly where we want it...' - you mean in the place where it will catch most dirt and dust possible?
I hope the frame comes with some sort of a shock protector.
Beautifully designed frameset though.
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  • + 1
 I just need such a bike! Does anyone know if it is possible to mount a DHX air or probably the new cane creek air to it? would push up the suspention feel a bit, altought I don't really know how a 150mm bike feels on the hard enduro tracks, but with the right setup it should be nice. Tell me what do you think? 150mm meta has already won couple of hight class enduro races such as Mega-avalanche!
  • + 1
 Piggy Back on those two may hit the frame? If not, it'll be close.
  • + 1
 Rémy Absalon won the Méga with a Meta 5.5 eg 140 mm travel! Anyway mm aren't all the same. Suspension curve, leverage ratio might give it a very different feel.
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  • + 4
 Ahhhhhh ........ But if it's FREERIDE we dont know if it's dead or alive , so , can we ride it ????
  • + 13
 Schroedinger's bike.
  • + 1
 Best comment I read so far on pinkbike!
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  • + 2
 This is one of the nicest looking bikes around! looks like a mini dh (think tr250)............still gonna be one kickass do it all bike ! Smile Smile
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  • + 2
 So the new kinematics are implemented for a shorter-travel platform as well. Good to see those Onza Tires mounted - a nice little touch.
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  • + 1
 Just from watching the video, the bike looks fantastic. No noticeable pedal bob sapping the riders energy, and it can obviously hammer the downhills.
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  • - 1
 very pretty bike, but 142mm rear axle? why? it's just another pointless standard. Also, 180mm rear brake mount? Again, pointless, I can't think of a situation riding XC/AM where i've wanted something more powerful than a 160mm back rotor.
  • + 6
 Buddy, when you(full riding gear) and the bike combined weigh 275-300 lbs and are haulin' ass down the side of a mountain, 160mm rotors just don't cut it! 160's might be good for those 150 lb riders, but us big guys need some stopping power.
  • + 3
 Just because you don't see a use for it doesn't mean someone else can't.
  • + 1
 but that's exactly my point, why put a 180mm post mount on there when they could use a 160mm post mount? just because some people might want to run a 180mm rear rotor doesn't mean we all will, they might as well at least give us the option of having a smaller rotor.
  • + 1
 One of the first things after i bought a 2008 5.5.3 was to throw off the 185/160 Juicy 3 and replace them with a 180/180 Formula K18 setup. 160 mm on a bike like this is NOT enough, at least not in the alps. Maybe it is in the UK. And i'm not heavy, ATM i have about 70 to 75 kg naked, so 75 to 80 kg in gear (backpack with water in it, clothes and an XC helmet).

Anywho, i too am wondering if a piggyback shock would fit. Monarch+! Smile
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  • + 0
 Lets watch these crack for fun :-) Owned 2 x Meta 6 - 2008 and 2009 and both cracked and no im not a fat bast*rd!! lol

If it rides and holds up over 2011 i could well be tempted back to commencal next year!
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  • + 3
 looks alot better than the older ones
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  • + 1
 i don't understand why there are 150 mm travel bikes but also 160 mm travel- aside from speccing it with a 15qr 150 mm fork, whats the point of having both kinds of AM bikes?
  • + 1
 Because you can get away with a Fox 32 at 150 mm, but not at 160 mm, where you need a 36 (travel wise). So the 36 is heavier and more sturdy, which is backed up with the wheelsets, frame constructon, etc. In the end you have a proper AM/Enduro (maaaaybe even light FR) bike in the 160 mm option and a long legged trail/light AM bike in the 150 mm guise.
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  • + 2
 sick! this must be one of the nicest short travel bike out there in my opinion, defo in the top 10
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  • + 1
 finally a good looking bike for commencal the old ones were proper ugly but new baby dh r SICK nice job coomencal...
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  • + 1
 I want to like it but that chainstay pivot design just looks haggard and not really thought out..... but what do I know
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  • + 1
 I've never seen so much circle jerk over a single pivot suspension design before! Razz
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  • + 1
 This is ultra nice, consider this in my top priorities for next frame.

Btw, anyone knows the price?
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  • + 1
 Great bike and great spec. my only problem is the brake mount, it should be a 6 inch for the smaller or lighter riders.
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  • + 1
 nice bike....wondering when it will available at LBS?
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  • + 1
 so sexy !! i want !! old meta was terrible but new is a war machine !!
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  • + 1
 Wonder if it'll be available as a frameset. If so, I'm in.
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  • + 1
 Looks like my next bike!!
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  • + 1
 Looks like a bike i would def be into for NV.
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  • + 1
 I want it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........ !!!!!!!!!!
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  • + 2
 want one now please Smile
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  • + 1
 Its like a mini supreme dh!!
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  • + 1
 WOW that's one nice bike.
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  • + 1
 thatS so sweet! I WANT ONE !
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  • + 1
 they just keep getting better and better!
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  • + 1
 Looks pretty sweet, commencal has got some dope whips
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  • + 1
 looks like the Votec V.SX.....
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  • + 1
 Lovely. Maybe it's time to replace the 6...
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  • - 2
 Its like they stole all of Trek's technology in one fell swoop! -ABP -142 rear -tapered headset -similar rear triangle.. BUT it is sexier than any trek........ the blue is unreal...
  • + 3
 It's not ABP.

Tonnes of bikes now use tapered headsets, as well as a growing amount using 142mm axles.

Similar? All bikes are similar, the diamond shape is strong and there's only so many ways to change it.
  • + 1
 142 mm rear axle is Trek's? REALLY? Up to this/last year they didn't even offer 142 mm spacing. And the ABP is older than that (the first Remedies came out in 2008 or 2009?). And as said, this is not an ABP. And as said, there are tons of tapered headtube frames out there now.

I think the begginers of the 142 mm trend were the germans with the Syntace X-12.
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  • + 1
 Looks more DH to me
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  • + 1
 Anyone know the weight?
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  • + 1
 I want this bike so bad.
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  • + 0
 who wears a full face for AM riding?
  • + 18
 The sort of person who rides AM harder then you ride DH Smile
  • + 4
 OUCH haha....no I understand the concept of facial-preservation im just sayin that if I were to pedal all the way up a hill i would be alot more comfortable in something else.
  • + 5
 There are some helmets out there like the rockgardn pearl, or specialized deviant that breathe incredibly well.
  • + 1
 Yeah I see your point BLIPDH , also nothing personal with the comment before I know nothing of your speed on a bike it just seemed a bitchy yet funny comment to make Razz
  • + 2
 no worries haah
  • + 1
 There are tons of backpacks that allow you to mount a FF helmet to them for the uphill.
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  • + 1
 awsome looking bike!
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  • + 1
 i'd rather this than the horribly ugly looking Mondraker! Smile
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  • + 1
 very rare. I like this
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  • + 2
 Its only on the CAD drawing the knobs face in. If you look at the picture of the bike you can see that they are facing outwards. This looks like an amazing bike. Im loving that AM bikes are now becoming small DH bikes instead of big XC bikes. Although, Specialized beat everyone to it when they released the Specialized Enduro way back in 06
  • + 1
 Ya first thing id do is throw in a DHX or Vivid Air
  • + 1
 I always figured it was the VPP boys (Santa and Intense) who started paving the way for the rest of the in the AM category, and I think Scott were ahead of the game with the Ransom when compared to Specialised and it's Enduro? I ride a 6.6 and still blast the XC boys out the water with >18kmh average speeds over 35km+ and race in the local DH series. This type of mtb has always defined what a mtb should be for me. I hate the 29er craze, it's for roadies who don't want to admit their technical rding skills suck, just thought i'ld add that in Razz
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