Chris97a

@alexsin: The ones that were insane still were Ibis with aluminum I9 spokes. Silliest wheels ever. I know man are very reasonable as far as stiffness.

@SlodownU: This site mostly serves up content for the people that mostly go riding for the huge features, Park laps and the more extreme end of the market. There is a bit of coverage for the adventure, XC, and others but definitely not the focus. Big bikes are fun, I know, I've ridden a bunch of them, they are great. That doesn't mean they are the only type of bike needed.

@aljoburr: If you and the 3 other people that want those are willing to pay $1000 per tire I bet you could convince Maxxis to make them.

@SlodownU: That may have been the case years ago but that has changed quite a bit, especially in xc marathon, xco is a little more groomed. You say 90% of riders live for the decents, but I think you are only taking into account the people you know or are on Pinkbike. Most riders probably haven't even heard of Pinkbike if they have, it is that place with bike classifieds. Many people just like riding bikes, I will go ride technical singletrack up and down, I will go for a 50 mile ride on logging roads, I wish riding road didn't feel like a death wish, because I would love to do that more again. Anyway, for most, in most places less than 140mm of travel is plenty for 99% if their riding. You thinking otherwise doesn't change that.

@zyoungson: I think he's talking the confusingly named 20x110 boost standard.

@zyoungson: A SRAM dub reference. But decimals and inches get along just fine.

@SlodownU: I do agree with you that modern long travel bikes climb pretty amazing, and if your goal is to get to the top pretty quick and pretty efficiently, they do the job very well. Not nearly everyone does giant stuff, in incredibly rough terrain though. I, for instance, started cycling way before people were jumping huge stuff and riding off cliffs. When that started happening, I knew that wasn't at all for me, that type of riding is not why I started riding MTB's 30 years ago. I love going far, I love riding flowy trails, I love going fast on rough trails. I have never had an interest in going off a jump or drop taller than me and as I get older that just sounds sillier for me to try and do. So do I need 150 or 170 mm of travel to do the type of riding that I have done for 30 years. Nope, it is fun in the rough fast stuff, but so is a shorter travel bike, the shorter travel bike is just as fun, but at a slightly reduced speed in that condition and slightly more fun in nearly every other situation that I am likely to encounter.

@SlodownU: It's strange that the XC pros aren't riding 150 mm travel bikes then, sense there are only benefits to doing so and absolutely no downsides. They must be in on it too.

You forgot the .99

@aljoburr: Totally available. https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=65957&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjqTv7P355gIVBR-tBh2RGwNFEAQYAyABEgI2qPD_BwE