Video: ENVE - US Made By Choice

 I win, 2000 model. Barely used no damage, enduro specific. goggles included

 lol moefo! ...is it 650b compatible?

 Include a fanny pack or a shash, you might just have a deal!

 of course!

 I fancy those socks ENVE, they will suit my calves !

 Enduro specific beer actually heals enduro specific kidneys. The hop in bear is 650b and stimulates enduro kidneys to produce more urine and this way clean up the urinal system and flush stones or heavy bike parts. Obviously too much beer won't help, but it's never sure to tell what is too much ..of enduro. It's the opposite story with other types of alcohol (except red French wine and 26" Wilson) and other organs like liver and suspension. Trust me. I am Polish.

 I'd love to know what it actually cost them to build a rim and a wheel set.

 It costs a best deal price for a lot of scientific research and testing just for you, to find the best way of hyper building and make you the fastest and meanest enduro racer ever. Sweet and sexy enduro carbon parts can be strong as hell and weak depending on the way they were hyper enduro created. Direction of carbon fibre layers, the amount of layers, the type of epoxy super enduro resin, the amount of it, the genious preassure and temperature of making it all solid sexy enduro toy. There are a lot of questions to solve, epsecially for you. You can just buy carbon fibre, make a negative shell of a part and experiment, but it's really better to buy for super nice enduro performance. No producer shares the hyper methods of transforming raw material into enduro specific hyper part. Customers pay for material and for the research, testing and development of methods and it's still the best deal ever for the enduro specific hyper value. Just save, save and buy, buy, buy.. and buy the very new product before each season. They are so wonderfully there only for you! Call now for even better hyper sexy enduro price.

 this. absolute respect to ENVE

 I agree. And it doesn't hurt that they are a bunch of cool guys. They were fun to BS with at Outerbike last year. Was wearing the ENVE hat they gave me when I was down in Moab a couple weekends ago, and a guy came up to me in the Shell station and commented on my hat. Turns out he worked there, and we chatted for a split second. Always nice guys.

 Its good to see that someone sticks to doing what they know instead of farting out an idea and having someone else executive it, although it seems rather disingenuous to label enve the best without any hard data at the very least- even ibis hinted that their hookless football field wide rims are 40% stronger than they're best competitors on impact, and seemingly Enve would be one. There is nothing to say that someone else somewhere else in the world couldn't do it just as well. I see the real problem, that we are constantly selling ourselves out for short term benefits at the cost of being left behind in the ability to produce industry, but American made or not it should be competitive on a global scale. Right now it is just a niche market for someone who is scared to death of a material that probably takes them to work in their jet planes.

 R-trailking_s "American made or not it should be competitive on a global scale" NUFF SAID This are over hyped, over priced, non competitive, paying for marketing, stupid ass price rims. I usually don't complain about prices. The Santa Cruz Nomad Carbon frame is 3k but so are most carbon frames (Frames not builds) so they are being competitive. Enve is the opposite of competition, going to sell something that someone else sells for 1k but triple in price...recipe for bankuptcy...unlesss the koolaid.

 Spicy Mike Superior quality? Pleeeeease Broken rims dude www.pinkbike.com/news/Enve-Composites-DH-Wheels-Tested-2013.html All rims break but not all cost 3k.

 You sir are the epitome of internet stupidity. Of course all rims will break eventually..but have you checked the warranty duration? The CS? Please go home and dont go back until you stop spitting out a single incident as if it's everything. Ive heard a few other rims breaks, but the way you come off makes you sound like 'that' idiot who turns that one event into like everything. You havent even ridden the wheels? Dont take everything you see on the internet so seriously. And did you read the full PB article? Probs not..

 Also since im on Mobile and cant edit. I dont neccesarily agree with their price either. But only time will tell.

 Couldn't agree more spicy mike. That Diego has no idea what he's talking about. Name one other quality carbon wheelset that is comparable to enve's, and a much lower price... exactly, they don't exist.

 People will list endless other rims out there, like Derby for example "they just as well made, just as wide and cheaper...real world results say so"...but from a technical standpoint, they're not as strong. Close, depending on how relatively speaking you are...but in reality...no, no they're not. Not even close. The technical data released and posted on the respective websites clearly say so.

Enve's, until you've ridden a pair, held them in your hand, and given them a thorough bashing...you have NO IDEA what you're missing out on.

That said, people seem to think, mostly concerning carbon rims, because they're significantly more expensive they'll magically make you climb better or hold pro lines. No....they don't. Just like better cranks don't. Just like a better fork won't. Just like a better frame won't. It does however make the ride a lot more fun....and that's what we're all after anyways right? Having fun.

 So it doesn't make you climb better or hold pro lines, but it makes the ride more fun? How? By having people notice them and how cool and rich you are to be able to buy them.

 Cool and rich meaning making damn near minimum wage? I make less than an average middle class American makes. It's all about priorities. I save money and find ways to buy stuff that I really want and use. I ride just about everyday, so I own a nice bike that doesn't need wheels trued every couple rides. Priorities my friend.

 My response was to rupintart who in a nutshell said "you cannot feel any difference in the ride and it doesn't improve your riding but it makes the ride more fun". Which is bullshit. If you cannot feel the difference the only improvement is in 'cool factor', which is the reason most people buy them and I assume why most owners ardently defend them.

 Yeah, that's simply not true. The Enve's hold a line like no other. There's not a bigger performance gain on a decent mountain bike than a set of good carbon wheels. It's not a myth.

 Yeah, sure the enve's will make you hold a line like no other...what a load of crap.-

 You look borderline retarded right now to anyone that has ever ridden Enve's. Keep talking.

 Well, have you ridden anything besides carbon enve's? derbies, dtswiss, superstar, loaded, ibex, ibis, etc? I doubt any of us have, but such superiority is most likely not present.

 Yes, I have. What would make someone think that the only wheels that I've ridden are Enve's? Hell, I've owned and broke a few of those brand wheels. Good carbon wheels hold a line better, and are confidence inspiring. It is a night and day difference. They don't need truing, don't break near as often, etc. I couldn't believe it until I tried them.

 The ride is far more fun because your bike handles completely different. I don't think any of us could hold a pro's line on that pro's own personal bike.....but you will hold a better line, just like you would with any NICE wheelset. But saying "it's not worth it" is so meaningless. To Joe Blow, your $2500 Santa Cruz isn't worth the price jump "to go ride and have fun." He has "just as much fun" on his $200 Schwinn.....but we all know he doesn't know what he's missing out on by having a nicer bike. The same can be said about these wheels. You may not feel they're worth it, but until you've ridden a set you have no idea or really any right to comment when it really comes down to it.

And if you got "you can't feel the difference...in a nutshell" from my post...well, I'll leave that alone...cause nowhere in my posts did I say anything about "not noticing a difference...." infact, it was quite the opposite....you WILL notice a difference, just don't expect for that difference to be so drastic that it gives you magical powers to climb or descend like a pro....

 True. Hear lots of stories about these not been great. I'm sure I will get a lovely "below the threshold" for this comment .

 How dare you not want to spend 3k on a pair of wheels, that are made in 'MURICA!

 ^^^ hahaha we got 'murican winner in here!

 Someone needs to start a grind core band called "below the threshold" and play at crankworx...or at least print some shirts..."pb said I'm below the threshold", or "I survived the pb comment police"..haha

 You should read some more reviews. I think your opinion is skewed. They are expensive though!

 Pinkbike went through, what, three rims in six months? IIRC Vital went through five. Lets see how many light-bicycle rims I end up destroying.

 Had my light-bicycle rims for over almost 2 years and never let me down no cracks not even lost any tension on the spokes even after some bad flat landings and casing a few rocks.

 Love mine, just need to find tires with a less square profile on the tread. It has been only 2 days, but the difference is striking.

 Their pricing is absurd!! Maybe they could justify it a couple of years ago when they where one of the few companies doing carbon rims, but nowadays you can get so many option for a fraction of the price. Enve rims break, so do nextie's and light bike's. I remember the PB review on enve's rims was horrible , they broke the rims during the testing period? Is ENVE's warranty better I doubt it. When I broke my nextie carbon I has a new rim on my doorstep 4 days after I notified.

 nextie rims are amazing for there price and service.

 Those things are absolute junk compared to enve's. The quality of craftsmanship is leaps and bounds better than the Chinese carbon rims. Just get both of them in your hands. The guys that make those Chinese rims have never even tested them!

 There's a very simple solution to all this carbon bollox. Save some money and buy a set of Hope Hoops. Can't go wrong with them.

 sorry guys, but the price it's ridiculous, I'm not saying that I don't like them, I love enve, but price, C'mon, that' why I ride on my custom build wheels and no trouble at all, my build, my style, my ride

 You brother is a cool guy. I always enjoyed riding with him up in Cache Valley.

 ENVEneer!

 This! x2 ridiculous price.

 And you'll go through 3 pairs of mavic's before you will go through one set of enve's.

 dualsuepnsiondave, you should really read up on ENVE's reviews. CHECK IT OUUUUUUT: Cracked rims: www.pinkbike.com/news/Enve-Composites-DH-Wheels-Tested-2013.html

 You can read reviews all day long. Meanwhile, I own a set that are true as the day is long after taking shots that would have blown up a DH wheel set multiple times. I would have replaced at least three rims already this season if they were not enve's or easton haven carbon's.

 dualsuspensiondave based on your profile photos you are riding enve's for a couple of months only. Just give it some time before your final judgement.

 I have yes. In that time I would have destroyed at least 3 high end aluminum sets. My friends have been running them since they became available years ago. They have never needed even a truing stand. Like brand new.

 I can see the reasons for doubt, but admittedly there are really only a handful of composite fiber producers in the world, and it would make sense that they are using hexcel (I was surprised to find they have been an aerospace contractor for the department of defense since the end of world war II. Check it out its on their website.) The rest of the equipment can easily be produced here.

 Yea I agree, not all of their stuff is made in the USA. I am down to support sweet US carbon bike stuff even if it costs extra, but they aren't very clear about which products they actually make in the US and which are made overseas. I was wondering about their handlebars, so I sent them an email to ask and got a response that was something like: we make certain products overseas.

 It was taken by pink elf? Dang.

 Go to the bottom and click on below threshold - that's where the 'Elf' hides them.

 Is that true kacu? I have heard here on PB that carbon fiber was most effective for bike rims.

 I've found his stash earlier.

SithBike justy type "Enve" in search and you should be able to find PB review from jan 2013.

 Here's your review. I would have thrashed at least 3 sets of high end wheel sets by now this season. Instead, I have a set of enve's that have never even needed truing. Go ahead, read the review of a prototype wheel set and get your uneducated opinion from there. While you are working on your wheel set, I'll be riding my bike.

 Dave, looks like you've had them on your AM/enduro bike for just over a month. I wouldn't expect them to need truing or be destroyed after that time on that bike. Please tell me how you would have thrashed 3 sets this season of another rim (excluding the crank brothers rims you have on your DH, which get a bad rep for reliability anyway)

What other rims have you ridden/destroyed and who built those wheels up for you?

 Haha. I would expect them to be destroyed. Every wheel should be retensioned after it's first ride and sometimes trued. The Enve's don't. I ride real aggressive 5 times a week, race enduro on the weekends with them, and no problems. I generally will smash an aluminum set in a few weeks to a month. I've ran Industry Nines, Mavic 823 to hopes, MTX 32 to Hadley's, Crank bros, other random mavic's, and DT Swiss. All were built by professional mechanics at the distributor, manufacture, another really good wheel builder, and even a couple myself. Keep trying though, you won't get it until you own a pair of Enve's. The only DH rims to last an entire WC season? Yep, only Enve's.

 Either you're massively over-exaggerating to prove a point, your wheel builds have been shoddy or you're a hack on the bike. Or a combination of all those.
I don't need to 'get it' though cos I know how to build wheels and ride smooth and have never 'destroyed' an Alu rim (cracked a 721 once but it was ride-able until I got the change to replace it). So I'll continue as I was buying a new Alu rim costing about 40 pounds once every few years and keep the rest I would have spent on ENVE's aside for a deposit on a new house!

 It's none of those. This is very comon for a top amateur on up through the pro ranks of gravity racing. If you are going through one rim every few years (which is great for you), then you and I are not even in the same ballpark with our riding (nothing wrong with that).

Many others including myself have been looking for the ability to run one wheel set over a riding/racing season without replacing it. Considering it has been done at a WC level with Enve's, we are on the right path. Thanks for building a quality product Enve!

 dave how many Enve rims did you have? Cause i see your SantaC in pieces in march, so what 2 months of riding?
Look, great if enve rims are bombproof (which i doubt, cause few non-racers thrashed them after a while). And Enve is definitely not seeking costumers in regular everyday riders, cause 3k for wheels is price that you can get used bike with great specs.

Good luck with rims.

 Yeah, 2 months of riding 5-7 days a week and racing on them would have been at least 3 aluminum rims. They aren't for everyone, doesn't take a Philadelphia lawyer to figure that out. No reason to keep fighting it guys.

 Well we've all stated our case, do keep us updated when they do finally break though Dave...

 Ha ha ha. So true! But I'm also the girl that has gone through 2 carbon fury frames, can't wear white and... Nice things? Forget about it.

The ENVE wheels are worth the price to me because of the wheel stiffness and reliable performance, as well as the warranty... I would NOT be racing if I had any other wheels -- I wouldn't be able to afford it at the rate I destroy components.

I'm like a trash compactor.

 That depends on the industry though. Some thing require the careful attention of a human. Still bloody expensive rims. If I've got the money and would never buy them.

 Yeah, by far the most errors is do to man - a machine will repeat the exact same process over and over and as long the process is right I would choose that over "careful attention of a human".

 And you should refuse. They could justify the price when they where one of the few making carbon, but now that so many companies are coming out with cheaper carbon options its like they dont believe in competition ot they wanna go bankrupt.....or maybe too many of the mtbers drink the koolaid.

 That Chinese stuff isn't even competition. The kind of people that would buy Chinese carbon that hasn't been tested, are not ever going to be an enve customer.

 I agree that while China-made products are sometimes sub par, Enve is not the only game in town anymore with regards to quality carbon parts. Heck, most of our bike products are either manufactured in China or Taiwan. Good brand names like Ibis are China-made. So Chinese stuff is certainly competition. Enve is one of the few that are actually made in the USA. That's great, but I still don't think that justifies 2-4x the price of a Chinese-made rim. But regardless, they're selling their rims like hotcakes. Interesting, even during the down economy, their rims were selling well. Now with the economy picking up, they're selling even more.

 The fit and finish a long with the layup, is leaps and bounds better than any of the other carbon rims aside from the haven carbon's. The other Chinese brands are making junk in comparison to enve. Not only that, these actually have been tested, and they stand behind their product.

 hahaha !

 What do you mean? They where the best carbon wheels when they where one of the few or the only ones making them, now you can get quality carbon wheels for a fraction of the price. Don't buy into the hype.

 ^^^^ fair enough

 Diegobustillos, 9 comments on the same posting! Did you work for and get fired by Enve or something? That's some serious anti. I'm not saying I disagree just interested that you're so anti. I have Enve AM rims, I broke 3 of another brands carbon rims before getting them. To be honest I currently shit myself every time I ride my bike at the moment waiting to hear that 'special' noise you get when you break a carbon rim, and then see dollar signs, especially considering I never thought about breaking my Shimano XT rims beforehand. I guess I'm withholding judgement for now!

 Lol yeah, I was suffering from insomnia. I am so Anti-Enve because I think 3k for a rim is absurd, then again everyone is free to do what they want for their money. I can't justify however that a pair of rims cost the same thing as a brand new carbon frame with shock by a top brand...seriously there are many other options with excellent warranties and great product.

 Diego, you broke a Chinese carbon rim. Enve's take a lot more abuse. The difference of fit and finish is huge. The only competition is easton haven carbon.

 There are also great options when it comes to not trolling a product you've obviously never tried or owned...

Your comments on this article are so hateful and so negative, and about what? About f*cking price? About the negative reviews you've only read? Because you can't get your hands on a set? I've met enough jealous high school girls to know angry envy when I hear it.

It's a little transparent, bud. There's a reason you keep getting neg-propped.

 ^^^ That comment is directed at diegobustillos, PS.

 Haha well said ambatt