Inside Marzocchi USA: Bringing Service Back

Mar 14, 2014 at 13:48
by Jordan Carr  

Augie Nunez Operations Manager Marzocchi USA
Long Beach, California, is better known as the hometown of legendary musicians like Sublime and Snoop Dogg rather than for its influence in the bike industry. But just over a year ago, Long Beach also became home to the US office and warehouse of Italian suspension manufacturer Marzocchi. The move, which transitioned the brand from Valencia, CA, was the result of a change in US distribution. Their new location promises to help bring Marzocchi back to where they once were - at the top level of suspension in the mountain bike industry. With a rich history in suspension, Marzocchi began developing mountain bike suspension in the late 1980s, a natural transition from their beginning in motorcycle suspension. In 1989, Marzocchi introduced its first prototype MTB suspension fork. As the market continued to grow, Marzocchi kept development a priority, and in 1995 they introduced the Bomber.

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  The 1995 Bomber was a hit in the booming mountain bike market.

The late 1990s and early 2000s saw significant success from the brand as mountain biking continued to grow in popularity. As suspension competitors improved efficiency and price point products, Marzocchi’s development and innovation was put to the test. After so much success early on, the brand faded into a lull in development during the mid 2000’s, but Marzocchi is excited about their new cartridge system and the implementation of their new dealer service program. For 2014, the Italians are focused on educating distributors and shop mechanics on service and maintenance protocols. The end result of these improvements will directly affect Marzocchi customers with less turnaround time on service and maintenance, which should go a long way towards getting riders back out on the trail as soon as possible.

Service leads the Charge

For 2014, Marzocchi is not only focused on continuing to develop quality suspension products, but they have prepared for a new level of dealer implemented service. The process of this new service structure begins with the brand’s US distributors and dealers. A very detailed and hands-on educational procedure allows these key contact points to be highly knowledgeable on service and replacement parts of all current and past Marzocchi products. When we visited Marzocchi in Long Beach, Service Tech, Alex Wolkin, was leading a clinic with some of the brand’s distributors. Technical reps were learning the ins and outs of all new Marzocchi products as well as warranty protocol. "Our goal is to provide distributors and dealers with the tools to diagnose and service our products in-house with little to no guidance from us," explains Sales Manager Simone Bassi. "This allows our dealers to provide a high level of service and keeps riders trusting our products and keeps them riding. Keeping riders on their bikes is always our end goal."

Marzocchi
   Marzocchi Canada, Suspension Tech, Alex Woikin, goes through proper maintenance procedures with a group of distributor tech reps.

Marzocchi Tour
   Class is in session.

While other high-end suspension manufacturers are currently offering some level of this service, Marzocchi hopes to lead the charge in innovating user tuning options and consumer understanding of suspension. In the motorcycle world, most riders service their suspension and understand the benefits of custom tuning. We hope to help develop this in mountain bikes. Marzocchi is focused on streamlining the process to allow dealers to quickly access spare parts through a new website. This website gives dealers and distributors access to parts for almost all Marzocchi products from the past and present while also providing useful fit information for tuning and retrofitting. We understand how critical accessing spare parts can be with service, ordering the correct part can be difficult without the proper diagrams and descriptions. This site allows dealers to choose spare parts by selecting the specific fork and year or the parts needed, and it then gives the mechanic a good understanding of which parts work with specific forks and makes ordering spare parts easier with less likelihood that the wrong part will be ordered. - SIMONE BASSI, Sales/Marketing Manager

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Marzocchi
Marzocchi
   Warranty Manager, Filiberto Lovecchio goes over Quality Control charts with Sales/Marketing Manager Simone Bassi

Continuing to make headway in the aftermarket segment though requires substantial financial commitments from OEM customers. Currently, Marzocchi has no OE spec but are planning hope to begin a big push to ramp up OEM offerings once their products are more available and easily serviceable. These OEM specs have become increasingly difficult to gain with bigger players like FOX and RockShox offering a wide range of price points and fork options. But with a commitment to high-end quality and innovation, Marzocchi is able to create well-designed suspension, with innovations like their DBC cartridge system, offering the benefits of both an open bath and sealed cartridge system. Relying on one-way seal to keep air and oil separate, it is said to provide more tunability and a longer life cartridge than other systems.


Driven By Quality

With deep roots in mountain bike history, Marzocchi has an even deeper history in high-end motorcycle suspension, explaining their commitment to quality and innovation. Founded in 1949, Marzocchi is one of Italy’s oldest suspension brands. Since the beginning, Marzocchi has utilized the race scene to develop and improve its suspension products. In the early 1950s, top-tier motorcycle companies such as Mondial, Ducati, and Maserati all used Marzocchi suspension components. In 1989, Marzocchi entered the mountain bike business and quickly focused on developing high-end suspension forks and rear shocks to compliment the growing industry. As the industry flourished, so did Marzocchi, sponsoring top-tier athletes and producing innovative products. In 2008, Marzocchi became part of Tenneco Inc., a U.S.-based company specializing in the production and distribution of automotive ride and emission components. This acquisition allowed Marzocchi to overhaul its operations, making the company stronger, more efficient while also improving quality. Today, all Marzocchi forks and rear shocks are developed in-house by a team of engineers, while manufacturing is done overseas with extremely stringent quality control both in Taiwan then again once the products reach their distribution country.

Since the 2008 acquisition, Tenneco has continued to implement new standards in design, engineering and manufacturing to bring continual improvements in quality, productivity and distribution at Marzocchi. These improvements are helping to revamp the reputation of the brand and increase the confidence of bike manufacturers in Marzocchi’s products for OEM applications. Under Marzocchi Italy's close guidance, Italian managers have spent significant time in California meticulously overseeing procedures assuring they were up to their stringent quality standards. Sales and Marketing Director, Andrea Pierantoni, spent two weeks every other month working at the California facility, giving it an extensive infusion of Italian influence. This acquisition also positioned the brand right next to Tenneco's automotive brands, allowing for more efficient space, shipping and resource usage. In Long Beach, Marzocchi shares a facility with automotive suspension manufacturer Rancho, with some their production taking place right across the floor from Marzocchi's warehouse and warranty department.





Marzocchi Tour
   Packed and stacked - walls of fresh forks ready to ship.

Marzocchi Tour
   Marzocchi USA Operations Manager, Agustin Nunez, is tasked with keeping in things in line at the Long Beach based office, but also spends his personal time thrashing in his metal band Asherah.


Marzocchi Tour
   Sales/Marketing Manager, Simone Bassi, was excited to show us around Marzocchi's new facility in Long Beach, and no tour is complete without an espresso.

Marzocchi
Marzocchi

With an assortment of top-level mountain bike offerings, Marzocchi has momentum with their new technologies, a new facility, and an experienced team. Their commitment to service will not only help to continue Marzocchi's growth, it will also continue to instill customers with trust in the brands products. Being able to walk into your local shop knowing they will be able to solve your problem in-house, goes a long way in the mountain bike enthusiast market, because we all hate waiting for service.


Marzocchi
  Mobile service is important with Marzocchi's deep commitment to racing and development.

Marzocchi
   Top-level race and event support is a big push for Marzocchi's focus on support. The fun mover will be driven all over North America this year at events like Pro GRT DH and Enduro World Series Events.

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Marzocchi Tour
Marzocchi Tour
  Marzocchi's new Long Beach facility is partnered with Rancho suspension in what we might describe as a distressed area, but the brand says they have had no issues and has embraced the area.

bigquotesWith their deep history in suspension, we are excited to see Marzocchi on the upswing. A diverse range of high-end mountain bike suspension keeps them at the top of the aftermarket game and will help redevelop their reputation as a driving force in mountain bike suspension. Pairing this commitment to quality and progression with a devotion to their customers is what makes Marzocchi unique in an industry driven by a disposable mindset. After walking their facility and experiencing the passion that resonates through the expansive space, we are excited to see the brand moving forward with a judicious drive. - J. Carr



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192 Comments
  • 66 1
 "...but also spends his personal time thrashing in a Metal band."

Metal and Marzocchi that's all we want for DH/FR video edits \m/
  • 8 3
 the letter M looks familiar... someone might sue marzochi for this
  • 36 3
 S-P-E-C-I-A-L-I-Z-E-D are probably the letters you wonna avoid, But there is an M in Demo, so you never know.

And yes, Marzocchi and metal, it would be nice of them to go back to this www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GNUfNpqmhY !
  • 36 1
 oh, Im referring to the M from Metallica. Both have the same shape. And Metallica is like Specialized. They are hyenas when it comes to money matters. In fact, nothing else matters for these guys.
  • 5 0
 I guess St.Anger would be their Demo...
  • 11 3
 Can I get a sticker, sure thats $45.
  • 3 0
 Talk about getting the shortest straw!
  • 22 0
 Unfortunately what you guys say about Metallica is Sad But True. Mess with them on money and surely you would be Unforgiven.
  • 15 0
 I think if we all just sat down and talked this through we would find a way to create justice for all.
  • 10 0
 Sometimes you have to Fight Fire With Fire due to the Creeping Death.
  • 12 0
 Yeah don't tread on them, or they'll send the four horseman after you.
  • 10 0
 Sueing is all in the Eye of the Beholder, but if they do sue you, your bank account will surely fade to black, and after that you'll revert to whiskey in a jar and nothing else will matter
  • 5 0
 Agustin has spent quite a lot of time playing drums and has actually played some really big venues here in Cali including the Verizon Amphitheater! METAL to the core for sure!
  • 1 1
 cooper95 I can see what your doing here, very clever. But if your bank account faded to black you would have money not be losing it. If you lose money you are in the red. Just saying.
  • 4 0
 this is a hilarious thread. hopefully in the end though, there will be justice for all
  • 2 0
 Marzocchi does like money. A valve for an air shock? That will be $60.
  • 1 0
 That's not what my Mama Said!
  • 1 0
 Guys you are brilliant! Metallica all the way!
  • 2 0
 If anyone knows any history on marzocchi, their logo was theirs WAAAAY before Metallica had even left the womb
  • 26 4
 Marzo are mint. I've got some 07 888's that I think are mint. The tech has progressed since they were made, dampers are minter, adjustments more mint, but my old girls, they still feel mint.
  • 42 1
 this comment is mint mate.
  • 11 0
 Fresh.
  • 12 0
 just exactly how mint was it ? on the "World Wide Mint Index" (WWMI) it might not even register as a rise in mintness,i've been watching for mint spike's and it's been falling slowly on average for the last quarter,with any luck Marzocchi might have just bucked this trend and we might see the mint market stabilize Smile we don't want it so slip any further down the WWMI,it might mean a double dip numberwang!!! Frown
  • 10 0
 That's numberwang!
  • 3 0
 Big Grin yeah i suppose it is numberwang :-) i'm going to have to look over my calculations again,maybe it was Marzocchi's triple action shoo shoo valve thats to blame,you sound like you have some numberwang qualifications ? you don't suppose the shoo shoo valve contradicts positive trends in the WWMI's world wide RAD Market (RM) do you ? we need it to be Enduro Smile
  • 5 0
 Thats it, I'm getting my hedge fund guy to invest heavily in the "mint" index then we can all get every wish granted that we want as minting goes wild......until the world wide crash in the mint index plunges us all into poverty to the point we all have to ride fixies with bald tires. Moral of the story.......mints can be bad for your health.....mint on
  • 6 0
 Numberwang Enduromint? The new flavor of Endurobubble gum!
  • 3 0
 ohh yeah Big Grin now that's numberwang!!!
  • 21 1
 I hope they do it properly this time and also for europe! It was very diffictult to get spare parts like different titanium springs for the forks and then they were insaenely expensive. The stock springs of the TI-models are too soft for most riders so most had to get a steel spring instead of a ti one.
  • 13 1
 you speak truth. they should either offer you the option of what spring ypu want to come in it or sell them with a range of springs. were spending just under 2000$ for the top end forks and then have to spend more for it to work right for our weight. use your head marz.
  • 5 0
 Yup. Swapped to firm spring after first ride. But wasn't gonna pay no $300 for another ti spring. Steel it is. Still amazing fork though
  • 3 1
 all their forks that i have tried have been amazing and everything i could ask for, i really wanna try a DVO but the truth is i would never spend 2200 on a front fork(hopefully dvo sells enough to lower the price soon, and i hope enough people win on them) marzocchi should have a new "upside down" fork coming soon, i really wanna try that too.
  • 7 3
 Yea I had a fork that I just had to send back in for service even though it was still under warranty they discontinued the line of 4x air forks and so what was I offered? I could either pay more $$ to "upgrade" to a DJ1 which is not a better fork anyways, or I could pay more $$ to have the internals from a used fork put in for $200.00 bucks.

I will never buy Marzo product again. They are a total rip off and don't stand behind their product. I will probably just pull that POS off and put a new fork on from either Fox or Rocks
  • 8 1
 We for sure have been (and still are) going through some growing pains as we rebuild our team and brand here in North America. We are confident that our core team here will be able to fix the problems of the past. We are all open to suggestions and comments and we all want to work with all of our customers as much as possible bring back the awesome brand we were once known for. Our new crew is here to fix the issues of the past.
  • 9 0
 Offer a ti spring ecxhange or offer the different spring rates up front. Keep oil changes doable by user or any shop. I specifically avoid suspension forks that I have to send in for an oil change.
  • 2 1
 Oh and offer red lowers for 888s and 380. Those are BA!
  • 3 1
 I'll have to see about the Ti spring exchange but it does sound like a good idea, the only issue is trading used for new product but I am sure we can offer something soon enough. . As far as oil, all forks need oil changes, it doesn't matter what brand.
I don't know about different lower colors, I know we do black and white now but perhaps different decal kits that would wrap the whole leg? less cost to install also! just a thought
  • 3 0
 I adamantly agree on the spring exchange idea. I love that the new 380 has remained coil while the competition are all air now, but you don't have to buy replacement springs with an air fork so your competition has that advantage now. Free ti spring exchange at time of purchase, or low cost exchange after using would be a huge purchase incentive.
  • 1 0
 still like the "set and forget" concept, so I don't really need any service support .. surely dudes those live in remote area will like it
  • 21 2
 yes!! .. finally fresh and different news ... 650b, enduro and sram forks stories are getting bored
  • 7 1
 Yeah the PIKE is pretty cool but man, that 55 is up there! I'd love to have one of those!!!
  • 2 0
 I have a 55 like this one on my bike..... FREAKIN AWESOME FORK !
  • 7 0
 Agreed. Great article and great to read about something different.
Very cool that they will be stocking/selling rebuild kits & parts for their older forks as well.
Here's a few thoughts, do the following we will see a TON of older Marz forks with 20mm axles being reborn.
1. Make Rebuild Kits & Parts For Older Forks INEXPENSIVE
2. Have All Kits Come With Easy To Follow Instructions
3. Post a Factory/OEM YouTube Video Of A Detailed Rebuild For ALL Older Forks
4. Include Factory Decals Specific For Each Fork With The Rebuild Kits, Or At LEAST A Decal To Wrap Around the Lower to Notate the Rebuild.
5. = Loyal & Happy Marz Customers

Love the direction Marz is heading with this article.
  • 5 1
 but 650 is the new enduromint and sram is just old news :-O
  • 13 0
 Marzo has always been more rider focused than hype focused like the two other. Never hyping anything, never shoving anything down our throats. Just plain old working stuff. And yes there was the incident, and it ruined their reputation, but now I'll still pick M over R and F. standard tools needed for servicing, standard cheap fluids that can be bought anywhere. And of course the ability to do it in your garage. IMHO, only M and Suntour offer that to the full. And that's why for the average rider they kick ass!
  • 6 0
 I've serviced a lot of R and F forks... Maybe a hundred? I don't recall any special tools for R forks. Fox on the other hand, yuck.
  • 3 0
 R doesn't have them a lot, we had to make some of the tools, but they do like to hype everything, and R's owner the S, sure likes to invent new standards just to be the cool kid on the block. And for the F, if it's hard to find tools in USA, imagine how hard is to do that in Serbia. The main problem is metric vs inch standards. We don't have inch based tools here, and it's a terrible pain in the ass.
  • 8 0
 We will continue to be rider focused. We believe in product, not marketing hype.
  • 3 0
 Great! that is what make me want to buy a Marzocchi fork not a F one
  • 10 7
 So where's all the US techs? Why aren't they in this press release? It would be nice to put a face to a voice when calling for help...wouldn't it? All I see are Italians and the Canadian techs... and some guy that spends his free time in a metal band. Everyone that left Marzocchi and started DVO actually ride in their free time! Call me bitter? I can write books on why I'm bitter and this all BS "marketing". Where's the new product? One fork, one shock.... both of these were started before MUSA folded, and the ideas for the new designs came from Marzocchi of old, hand fed to the Italians cooped up in their office in Bologna. Negative props me Marzocchi USA. The truth hurts and I'm telling it!
I just don't want to see any real riders get sucked into something that isn't true.
  • 4 4
 Hey Tom, give it a rest please. We all know you are one of the DVO principles trying to start a fight with Marzocchi for some pissing match reasons I don't know. That is old news. Move on and go give away some more forks
  • 9 5
 Give it a rest? No Problem David, formerly of One ghost. I am reading this thread and see you are having a conversation with yourself as Marzocchi USA too, giving yourself props too! How fake and misleading is that?! I don't need to start a fight with you guys, or hide or go away, your predecessors have done a great job ruining what they had well before you walked in the door less than a week ago as the new marketing guy for MUSA.

Yeah, I'm a bit bitter since they just left me sitting at a desk for over 6 months when all I wanted to do was help the brand... only to find out they were trying to get me and everyone else to just give up and quit so they didn't have to pay us severance packages. Guess what, after 6 months of sitting waiting for a reply about the situation, I did! Now I'm here to make sure you marketing BS'r's (Simone, Andrea) don't try to pull the wool over the publics eye with false promises.

Tell you what David, I'll leave if you can give all these people here that aren't in the loop a list of your techs, all your distributors that are authorized to service M products, as well as all the shops that are factory authorized to work on your stuff (not just sell your stuff) actual factory authorized service centers. Show everyone here a list. Shit it would be in your benefit to post it and call me out. Frankly I don't think that list is very big.

Now you are hear saying MUSA tech support is important. Where are the US techs /customer service guys? Show me, heck show everyone here on PB a US tech other than John H., the last one left from the old office!!!! Prove me wrong and I'll leave you alone. Nothing I'm saying here is slanderous it is fact and truth! I don't like to be mislead nor does anybody else. I call Marzocchi's bluff!

FYI, I'm an engineer, I don't give away anything. I design product I want to ride! You are the marketing guy that's what you do!
  • 10 0
 "In 2008, Marzocchi became part of Tenneco Inc., a U.S.-based company specializing in the production and distribution of automotive ride and emission components. This acquisition allowed Marzocchi to overhaul its operations, making the company stronger, more efficient while also improving quality."

Bollocks to that lol The quality of Marzocchi forks fell considerably from 2007 to 2008. 2008 was potentially the worst run of forks Marzocchi ever produced.

Glad to see them starting to return to the top now though. Their 2013/14 stuff looks really good tup
  • 4 1
 Thanks! we are working hard and our product range is for sure up in the top tier again!
  • 1 1
 I had a 2010 marzocchi 44 micro ti that ran flawlessly on my my mojo and I now have a brand new Marzocchi 55 CR that I've only ridden twice, but I ditched the Fox float for it and am Happy I did. It's buttery smooth, and looks amazing.
  • 9 2
 I have to tip my hat to Eric White at Marzocchi. I was struggling with the warranty process until he stepped in. He took charge of my account and I had my fork back within a week. And he put my name on the backorder list for a soft spring. I know some people have preconceived feelings about Zokes being junk but every company has a rough period. They've made leaps and bounds to improve their products and customer service.
  • 3 1
 Eric kicks ass for sure!
  • 11 0
 Lets not forget the Marzocchi Women Calendar.
  • 7 1
 As awesome at those were, we want to prove we are not about the gimmicks used in the past and we want EVERY rider to not feel intimidated by any marketing efforts. This includes women riders.We want to encourage more women to get involved in the sport and ride, not be intimidated by a male dominated image that makes them out to be only eye candy
  • 7 0
 Fair do a women mondels specific calendar and a Male models calendar and everyone is happy including the GLBT riders community
  • 7 1
 I like this idea for sure but only using riders! I'll look into that!
  • 2 0
 even cooler also you need to put the wallpaper section on the page haha
  • 7 1
 I love my 55 rc3 to bits but the lack of tuning and maintenance manuals make me sad sometimes. They still have a long way to go to match RockShox in that department - step-by-step how-to guides and straightforward replacement parts (including Europe) would be progress.
  • 3 0
 duly noted for sure. Something we want to remedy this year is more tech manuals and info available online
  • 2 0
 This one is huge for me too.. I have a 13' 888 CR, right now that am still not confident that I bled the damper properly. Without the service manual even the lbs's don't know for sure how to do it.. And I refuse to take a fork to the Lbs, for them to experiment on or to have to send it somewhere, to me that's ridiculous.. For the price of these suspensions we should have the proper manuals to work on them ourselves. Or in the least a how to video available. Check out srams and x fusions vids, they are perfect. I like the fork and finally, just two days ago was able to purchase the firm(steel) spring for it, after waiting over 5 weeks for it to come back in stock..

So glad you guys are making a public announcement of becoming a better customer service company, but honestly if I cant confidently work on it myself I wont purchase another Marz fork.
  • 9 0
 I'm changing my name to Filiberto Lovecchio
  • 2 0
 YES!! ++ props!
  • 5 0
 I recently got my 2011 888 rc3 TI fork completely rebuild at their Long Beach location ,Its not as fancy as their Valencia location but the customer service and turn around time is absolutely the best.
  • 8 1
 I've always loved Marzocchi, and I'll continue to stick with them. Good article!
  • 3 1
 word up! thanks for your support!
  • 4 0
 Still got my 95 bomber fork And 02 monster fork And both still going strong. its a Shame thay lost the build quality over the last few years but if thay go back to there roots of fork building its going to be some exciting forks to look forward to
  • 2 0
 My bike is rocking a JR T.
  • 2 1
 our new production facility has fixed the problems of the past plus we have new quality control measures in place at the source as well as all the way through the food chain before any product is shipped. The new forks and shocks will easily surpass our best products of the past as far as weight, serviceability, stiffness and feel.
  • 1 0
 i really hope so and wish you luck as only time will tell. i look forward to seeing what you can produce but it better be mind blowing for me to ditch the monster fork as we been thro hell and back but forthe cost of an oil change and new seals thay have never let me down.
  • 4 0
 I had a problem with a marzocchi 44 ti a couple years ago, nobody at marzocchi was helpful. I posted my frustration on marzocchis facebook page. Ronnie Dillon ended up responding to me helping me through the problem (after he had already left the company for DVO).
  • 3 0
 I'm sorry to hear that. things are changing here now. Props to Ronnie for sure.
  • 7 2
 BS! Mailed them 2 weeks ago and still no answer on a technical query. Also no spares or agents in RSA thus fixing a fork myself...
  • 2 1
 who did you email?
  • 4 0
 @PappaBear... go to the WC coming up in Pietermaritzburg and ask Pedro and he can replace the fork. Pedro is our World Cup tech and will be at every WC event and can help out there.

Marzocchi will be out there in 3 weeks
  • 3 0
 Had a great experience with Marzocchi just a couple weeks back. Been trying to find a way to thank the guys there for helping me out. Guess this will have to do. Definitely will consider their products based on my experience with them.
  • 3 0
 you wont believe the issues I've had over the years with these Bozos from broken fork arches to seized cartridges on 888 from 2006 to 2010 and I don't even go that big. Don't buy into their hype, and what no hotties on the poster cause espresso dude wants bucket yielding lesbians with hairy armpits to represent....hmmm what does that tell you about the new zokes? come on man buy their stuff only if its half the price or you get free laboure when they brake every 3rd ride.
  • 6 0
 Let's hope they really do step up their customer service. I've never gotten any decent service from them.
  • 3 0
 I've been trying to get a spring from them since december but their site doesn't work
  • 2 3
 I would call them up. I've had a bunch of their forks over the last 15 years and I liked the forks but I hated their customer service. I wouldn't buy another one because of it. SRAM/Rockshox is where its at for customer service.
  • 3 2
 Just had a fork under warranty go back there... They suck. my options were pay over $200 for an upgrade to a different fork that was not an upgrade. 4x Air to a DJ1 or I could pay $200 to have internals from the new 4x put in... WTF? So because they made a crappy product one year they changed the fork and then just stopped offering warranty coverage for previous years? I will NEVER buy Marzocchi again.
  • 4 1
 when was the last time any of you called them for customer service. They have Mat in sales and Eric and John in tech and that's it, super small, core group so it can be difficult for them for sure. as a one-man operation OG felt the pain like I am sure they do now. SRAM HAS to have great customer service because their stuff is JUNK. I have seen 100% failure rates from them out of the box on OE and even on bike shop floors.
  • 3 1
 @gingymp5..Admittedly, our web store does need help but you can call us directly or email us and we will get you sorted properly. @Robito.. We are for sure taking back customer service. The problems of the past are working their way out, like when there is a Sig Alert on the 405 and all lanes are shut down.. then they open up again.. it's slow but it will get going and flowing again.
@PBrider.. I am really sorry to hear of your misfortunes. I won't defend or deny any actions but I know we are making strides here to offer better customer service.
  • 2 0
 I am not trying to bash anyone, I just figured since this was last month my experience was relevant to a news post called Bringing Service Back. Again I will say over and over the 4x air fork I have on my hard tail is my favorite fork, more than any other brand I have ridden, the problem is the amount of money required to stick with it if every year or two I have to pay several hundred dollars for repairs. I hope the product line gets stronger but I would be weary of spending another big chunk of money on products when the warranty and service process is handled the way it was.
  • 5 1
 Interesting approach for the big M as RS goes the other direction with a "set it, forget it and never tune it" approach. I think there are riders who will prefer either option.
  • 6 0
 As opposed to the Fox direction of: "we'll set it, and you'll like it, because we said so." RS is walking a fine line, because taking away adjustment only works when your tunes work well for most riders, screw that up, and the backlash is huge, like Fox found out with CTD.
  • 3 0
 We have always been rider-centric and we want our riders to obtain the maximum experience with our forks and shocks and service. We love tune-ability and we want everyone to be able to have access to it themselves to get that perfect feel. Every rider needs different things out of their suspension and we fully embrace that.
  • 3 0
 Always liked my two Zochs for durability if not their weight. Was really surprised when one was broken at Rampage and then out done by a Suntour of all things. If Suntour can come good then anything is possible. Would be interested in an Air 66 if they can match Fox 36 180 weight.
  • 3 0
 Keep an eye on us! ;-)
  • 6 0
 Dealt with them twice this last year and they have been great, quick and helpfull.
  • 3 0
 Marzocchi USA - Here's a legitimate "service" question: Why, after SIX years from initial offering, are there no alternate springs available for the 55? What do you plan to do about it?

The first year they were made, they were advertised to have "full range of springrates available upon release" on an Italian press release! My dealer has tried over and over again to get them from you guys over the years as I've owned a couple, and I've called and asked about them only to be told there is only one single springrate available for that fork, and that Italy refused to make additional ones.

What the crap is this?? This is 2014, not 1994. Your competitors either provide alternate springs with the fork, or have them immediately available. They have for over a decade. Your product still costs more, and can't be set up right. Do you hate selling product to people with money? Do you like generating sales for your competitor? Don't try to blame it on the Valencia guys either, because they weren't happy about it and had their hands tied from Italy at the time. It's painfully clear how negligently managed the company was/is by the Italians.

Start by getting your product line completed and current, and get your product pricing/wear item pricing in line with the rest of the industry, and make sourcing easy for the customer, and then I'll start listening to this marketing camel-excrement about "service".
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 Nothing, huh?
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 This is one between many other important question that will not be answered because this is the reality and no the fiction and dreaming of the ones for what really matters is sell new product to misinformed people behind a false image of best quality for the money with best support everywhere.
Some of real people describe their bad experience with the Marzocchi products in the backstage and no one with real credits appears to solve anything or pointing how to solve them out of here.
Instead they create false people (nicks)to saying stupid words like M rulles,bring back M girls and other retarded things like that.
The reality is systematically avoided,igored and all of us are keeping misleading.The money is spended in publicity and no in real product/customer support.
The deception and the bill comes afterwards and is treated with arrogance,ignorance and the worst competence.
Not a single real world problem was answered here and nor will it be .Only crap .
  • 2 0
 Great looking article with pictures, at least for those not in the know of what really has been going on with them for over the last year. Words like "Redevelop" and "Upswing" are telltale enough. Look, Marz has always had great looking swag and promo stuff, but they weren't a serious contender at any top tier racing level then, and they have only further to reach with the damage that management choose to impose. Leave their previous HQ to get absorbed into a small space in an arguably terrible part of town, (I live in LA, that is an undesirable area), completely clean house of all technical and sales personnel who knew the products, and now this article alludes to them wanting to make experts out of the end user, maybe because no one is left in house that is an expert and knows about all the subtle things those forks needed year in and year out to keep them going. Don't mean to make it all sound like doom and gloom, it's just unfortunate to have seen them fall from grace, so to speak, even before gaining any true top tier position with any of the products. Certainly hard to believe that they will be able to turn that around with how they have been operating, and turning off even more customers, past and present.
Competition is good for all of us, though, it helps insure that we as the end users get the best product and the best value, and so I hope that this all of these pictures and words in this article turn out to be something great. Good luck, you guys!!
  • 7 1
 Can they give us free caps? for the 2008 incident.
  • 1 4
 I wish! I can't even get a hat! Smile
  • 3 0
 Marzocchi-USA Here's a legitimate idea- offer some kind of restitution for people and bike shops who can prove they had serious problems in those "bad" years. People that used their hard earned money to buy an admittedly defective product- put your money where your mouth is. You may have good intentions but it just doesn't carry any weight. It's great that now you are the "new" Marzocchi, but a company just can't do that to it's customers and expect forgiveness.
  • 1 0
 They don't even a cap.
  • 1 0
 Good point chyu. If they can't even get a hat from their own company, then how are they going to get what is needed to take care of the customers?
  • 3 0
 I think the only way warranty issues in the uk with marzocchis could be sorted faster would be with a time machine. Once i've got some cash spare for some 55's to replace the 36s on my trail bike. I cant wait
  • 4 6
 Wow well you must be in dream land then because they treat US customers like crap. Warranty means nothing to them and customer service is non existent.
  • 2 0
 I think it took a week and a half including delivery to them and back to me. Sent monday, got a phone call friday saying they'd found the fault and as it was a common issue would i like them converting to coil. They arrived back a few days into the following week. Maybe its the US staff that deal with your issues at fault rather than marzocchi themselves.
  • 4 2
 I can't speak to our EU counterparts but here in the US we are trying. We have a very small crew and we are changing how the old ways were handled. You and everyone in the US can expect impeccable customer service from us from here on out
  • 2 0
 Well my experience was within the last month so I doubt it can be chalked up to a different crew? I had performed regular maint, on my fork and my local bike shop was preparing to do a seal change when they ran into the problem with an inner seal that required service direct from Marz. I loved the fork in fact I preferred it over Argyles, and DJ series or Fox but if I am going to be paying $200 plus every year or two for internals that somehow don't fall under normal warranty that is weak. I have had plenty of bikes and parts over the years and this is one of the poorer (not worst) but still poor levels of service regarding a poorly designed product.
  • 2 0
 Bringing back the service? A few months ago I had marks appear on the stanctions of my 55 WC´s, turned out to be the plastic sleeve on the spring had disintegrated. Was well within the "3 year warrantee". Marzocchi were not interested and charged me 30€ for the postage.
  • 1 0
 Were you talking to our USA office or EU office?
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 I dealt with the Spanish tech service centre Racing Shox who from what I can tell did not even open them (there was no evidence of parts having been removed). They then sent them back charging me 30 Euros postage. I complained to the US office as there seemed little point going to the EU as RS told me they had consulted with Marzocchi EU on the subject. The reply was I should contact the EU office, so frankly gave up as I appeared to be getting no where. Sent the forks to a local service centre who confirmed the plastic sleeve appeared to have been the cause.
  • 2 0
 The Spanish tech service is a nightmare!! In BCN its even hard to get a Zokes serviced in considerable time...mine needed 3 weeks!! I love Marzocchi but in Spain you are better off with a different brand Frown ...sad
  • 2 0
 I haven't owned a Marzocchi product in years. Budgets dictate sticking with OEM or what's on sale.
But I'm very impressed with you guys getting up here and answering the tough questions. Companies have marketing guys and I'll bet they all have pinkbike accounts. Why don't we see this level of customer involvement more often?
  • 2 0
 well, so much for service had a mechanical issue in my 380 for awhile now, and cant ride cause the my email didnt get any respond for a week now, sent an email to the US office as well as the EU. nothing from both.
  • 2 1
 I love my 2012 Marz 55 Microswtich TA. Best air fork I've ridden, bar none. However, after about six months it began stiffening up - had to use less and less air to get same travel. Had it serviced twice, but it still didn't fix the problem. Sent it to Marz (through my LBS) and they replaced the lowers (and all internals) for free and had it back to me in a week. It's friggin' awesome again. I was running an X-Fusion Slant in the interim, and it's good, but the 55 is better - more supple and more robust at the same time. Unfortunately, the mystery problem still has me a little concerned - will it happen again?
  • 2 0
 but was that fork sent to Marz directly or to a service center like BTI or QBP. feel free to contact Zoke directly
  • 3 1
 @Herzalot, call Eric or John in our tech department and see if they can get you styled.
  • 5 3
 I used to love the product...The brand went so downhill in the last 8 years that despite me cheering them on and hoping for a turn-around, I also do not want to be first on the new gear, someone else be the test pilot.
  • 4 3
 pretty sure the old crew caused the "downhill" the new guys are going to bring it back and I'm pretty sure they actually test and CPSC certify everything they put out, unlike some (cough) other new companies
  • 4 1
 @bubbrubb.. The old crew and product are gone. we have new, fantastic stuff and people behind them all.
Thanks Oneghost.. we do make sure everything is tested and compliant before we bring them to market. at least one newer company out there lets the public be its test subject
  • 6 4
 Sounds like a one sided conversation to me. When you refer to "the old crew" are you talking about the DVO crew or are you talking about the wacky engineers in Bologna that were struggling to design mediocre product on a budget that was being abused by some old douche bag Italian to come to California to purchase Apple products for all of his family members? You guys have no idea of the shit you are trying to talk! If anybody wants to hear about the many shenanigans of Marzocchi please ask me. I find all of this wildly entertaining and I have months and months of information that I can spew out for shits and giggles : )
  • 5 4
 hey oneghost don't you work for marzocchi now? Word on the streets is that you do.
  • 3 1
 I am sure he does.
  • 3 2
 Cute try Ronnie and Tom. David did leave One Ghost this week and will start with Marzocchi again. We are sad to see him leave but at the same time happy for him. We, however do not work for anyone but ourselves.
  • 5 2
 Funny David's page says he's already at MUSA.... real riders, real products. No marketing BS!
  • 7 3
 Dude stop answering your own questions. We all know that you are oneghost and Marzocchi-USA. We have been gone from that place for 2 years already, the bullshit is never going to stop. What new crew do you have?? show some pictures of new designers and engineers not the same 2 engineers that made the biggest nightmare in the suspension industry? the same guy who designed the ATA system is the same guy designing all of your product right now. Good luck digging that company out of the hole that they put themselves in. Anything that company did that was cool was because of Bryson Martin and the crew that actually believed in making things happen for our friends and for our loyal customers. Alex, Naz and John are the life of that company not that schmuck that you guys have posing in that picture above. Dude you actually added Bryson's name in your snarky ass comment earlier. Not cool
  • 4 0
 Pretty bad form on the part of oneghost/marzocchi-usa. If the best you can do is to try and slam the guys that built that to what it was, good luck getting back there. I am sure your recollection of things that happened at Marzocchi after you left there how many years ago might be slightly different from the guys that were there. Like I said, good luck!
  • 4 0
 First pic in this story is the first "real" fork I had owned. Then Free riding began. Life was good back then.
  • 4 3
 When I cracked my Marz fork I could never get in touch with their customer service. After numerous messages with no returned calls I gave up. I emailed, called, etc and then never responded, no email, nothing. The bike shop I bought the bike from even confirmed that Marz is impossible to get warranty parts from. Needless to say I won't be purchasing anything from them again.
  • 3 3
 Sounds familiar. I won't be giving them another dime.
  • 2 1
 I am really sorry to hear that guys, you will be missing out on some truly amazing new products coming out. Our new team is easy to deal with and we have learned and grown from the mistakes of our past.
  • 5 0
 espresso in plastic cups? not very Italian haha
  • 2 0
 I can't agree more. we had a supply issue and ran out of our normal espresso cups!
  • 2 0
 I thought that was suspension oil.
  • 7 6
 I've been a fan of Zoke for years. I actually stopped using them though during the old Martin years because I didn't think the product they did and the service and what they stood for were worth supporting. The new Marzocchi is amazing and their new product rivals Fox hands down. The new crew they have is really small and they are trying to pick up the pieces still but they are a hard working bunch and I believe in them and am STOKED to have them come back to the US market with a vengeance!
  • 8 4
 hey oneghost, the product was always developed in Italy(except all the rear shocks(I developed those and one of the Italian Engineers got it to market) B. Martin only dealt with Marketing and pushing the Italians to get it to market. So once again, you are misinformed or you are trying to misguide the public. I know better!
  • 1 0
 I've been using Marzocchi forks since the 90's and always appreciated how the service center could rebuild any fork they ever made. Hopefully that will continue. Personally, I preferred mailing my fork to CA during the off-season rather than having my local shop try to do it. Best to have the guys who do it all day, every day, even if it takes a bit longer. But I understand patience is lost in today's world. I'm glad to see a revival and look forward to seeing new products!
  • 1 0
 I really am hoping that Marzocchi steps up to the plate and meets my expectations. I have avoided the company after the 2008 disaster, but would love to see the company recover. I bought a 2007 66 last year, and was surprised by how stupid and incompetent the idiot in customer service was. I told him the model of the fork and the part number of the kit I needed and that moron still recorded the wrong information and sent me the wrong seal kit. I haven't considered Marzocchi as a legitimate or reputable suspension manufacturer since 2008, but I would love to see them make a comeback. I will keep an eye on things, because I have two bikes that need fresh suspension.
  • 1 0
 That's absolutely true what you "drivereight" says.I am in the same situation.A long customer to some of their reliable products till the darknes arrive in 2008.
But MARZOCCHI Italy / USA /planet don´t will answer neather you or me or anyone .I ask some help also in some technical matter and ZERO .They dont care in those customers.
What they want is new clients (the more stupid in believing their bullshit about customer service,user friendly blablablabla..the better)for new product.New blood ,new fresh money.
In most of countries they delivered the product support/assistance to some firms that do not provide the best service.
Who will benefict indeed from their effort in supporting their products ???Top level and supported racers and a few customers near some good shop/distributor that have quality service/qualified technicians.
The majority of customers will be defrauded when they need some important support and will be spendind real money with other brand products who have big NAME but litle /few/close to zero reliability vs durability.
  • 1 0
 I tell you guys, a week ago I ordered a new 55 ti. I was told it would ship asap, a week later and I still have not seen the charge on my card. I have tried for two days to get through to the sales department to see what is up, only to get the voicemail every time. A call back would be nice. Maybe it would be a good idea to hire more than one person for all USA sales. I just want to buy a fork, Please! Unfortunately this is lining up with previous experiences with Marz USA.
  • 1 0
 Hey Marzocchi! My 2007 66rc's with the 1.5 steertube failed on me, the steertube separated from the crown. Mike at Marzocchi California helped me by installing a new steertube and it happened again. I upgraded to the 2010 version and the initial creaking noise which begins the process towards failure showed up again. When the left fork leg with the air spring spewed oil out the top on the next ride (contaminating my front brakes to the tune of non-operation) I decided to give up on it. I've moved on to other bikes and forks, but there sits my Yeti in the garage with garbage forks and I don't know what to do with it. I've taken the financial hit for them, but can't use them or sell them.

I see that you've responded to many of the comments here, so I figured that I'd ask you publicly:

What can you do for me?
  • 1 0
 Best of luck marzocchi. One question, my 2014 55 evo ti are quite notchy. The stripped with fresh oil, no foam seal in there to remove and still sticky. Any suggestions? Let's hear the customer service please! :-)
  • 2 0
 Any tips to make my 2014 55 evo tis plusher? I've changed the oil (there's no foam ring to remove). Please marzzochi, lets hear your customer service please!
  • 10 7
 Lol now that all the main guys left marzocchi to form DVO lets see how they do .
  • 4 0
 Look'n for a MARZOCCHI with 150mm and 15mm through!!!!
  • 5 1
 It's coming! the 350 series is going to be BANGING!
  • 1 0
 YES! LET ME KNOW WHEN
  • 2 0
 Huge gap in their product line up. We need more alternatives to a Pike, 44 is too wimpy but 55 is too heavy, Wouldn't mind if they went 20mm instead of 15mm.
  • 2 0
 I still have my Z2 bomber working on my first hard tail chromoly frame and i would not change it for any other of his time. Marzo rules!
  • 2 0
 WOOO!!!
  • 6 5
 Wow! A little insider truth gets pulled of this thread! brain washing the public PB? Good Luck Marzocchi! I was just trying to throw some truth on this "marketing dog and pony".
  • 2 3
 Please shut up , get your bike out and ride your suntour stuff Razz
  • 1 1
 I have a 55 that suddenly dropped away in the mid- stroke like it had a front flat tire. It would do it mainly when I was pressing it hard into a downhill corner about 2/3 into stroke. Scared me so much I sold it. Hope they fix the problem on future 55's.
Why has it taken so long for this article to be released? I believe the DVO team left over 2 years ago. Hope it doesn't take that long to fix issues like on my old 55.
  • 3 0
 No -really stolen ahah we're so clever and fast- protoype pics?
  • 4 1
 Most of the R+D program is in Italy... and production is located in Taïwan. Long beach's office is more a "top quality branch" for distributing & service.
  • 3 1
 We will be doing some more RnD here but yes, the majority of our RnD is done in Italy
  • 3 0
 I like the bars in the windows...... how L.A. is that!!!
  • 3 1
 oh man, you have NO idea! Straight outta Compton!
  • 2 0
 Ha! From October to April I called every month trying to get a firm spring and was told "next month" every time.
  • 2 1
 what spring? we just got a bunch in stock. please try again
  • 3 0
 i want that chair ^-^
  • 1 0
 Just you guys wait until andreani is ready to dominate the MTB suspension world. They're getting ready!
  • 4 2
 Bring back the Marzocchi bikini models too!
  • 3 2
 B.Martin's idea. The Italians hated the idea.
  • 4 3
 Personally I am in favor of not promoting sexism in the industry and have to agree with the Italians on that one. It makes for a unsavory work environment and objectifies women and excludes them from mountain biking. We are not about to do that.
  • 3 1
 That's one way to keep the mistresses in the DL. Out of sight, out of mind.
  • 1 0
 Black and white photo of espresso shot is pretty much entirely missing the point. stoked for marzocchi however.
  • 1 0
 two weeks passed, still no email reply. so much for service..
  • 1 0
 no more M girls ...Im just going to go ride my moto x.from now on..
  • 3 2
 So kinda like ridefox.com has been doing for years now....
  • 2 0
 Where's the enduro pics?
  • 1 0
 bring back the 24" d-street
  • 1 0
 Bring back 66 series. Loved them.
  • 1 0
 Soo.... How do i get in contact with them?? I need a rebuild mannnnn! lol
  • 7 8
 Marzocchi customer service!?!? Hahahaha isn't it a little late for April Fools press releases?
  • 4 1
 no fooling, we are changing it up and coming back hard! Times are changing and we are changing with it but we do firmly believe that customer service is number 1 (next to awesome product) but we also think you can have the very best product in the universe but without that service to support it, what is the point? So that said we are rooting ourselves into that culture.
  • 3 0
 I've been loyal to Marzocchi even through their darkest of years 2007-2010, but I don't know how long I can hold. 2 plus weeks ago I sent an email to inquire on the new 2013 888 fork seals, but have not receive a response.
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