Pivot Carbon Phoenix - 33.8 Pound DH Race Bike - Sea Otter 2014

Apr 11, 2014 at 13:30
by Richard Cunningham  

Pivot Phoenix Carbon 2015

Pinkbike featured the aluminum Phoenix prototype at Whistler Crankworx 2013. At that time, we were told that the production version would be carbon fiber. Meet the Phoenix Carbon DH.



The first production Phoenix Carbon frames to reach North America were assembled at Pivot and then hand delivered to Bernard Kerr and Micayla Gatto at the World Cup in South Africa. The three resplendent beauties that remained arrived at the Sea Otter Classic last night. Phoenix Carbon frames are designed around 27.5-inch wheels and use a dw-Link rear suspension configuration which is also sync'ed to work with the larger diameter hoops. The parallelogram linkage rocks on deep-groove Enduromax ball bearings which are larger than PIvot specs in its Mach 6 AM machines. As usual, the new chassis is punctuated with details, like internal cable routing ports that double as frame guards near the head tube, and a port for a Stealth dropper post, should the race course or a particular shuttle run require its use.

Phoenix Carbon DH frames, including the coil/over Fox RC4 shock, weigh only eight pounds in the medium size - and the entire bike, featuring a Fox RAD 40 fork and Reynolds' new Black Label carbon DH wheels, weighs about as much as an enduro bike at only 33.8 pounds - including pedals. Phoenix Carbon frame sizes are offered in small, medium, large and X-large, which is rare for DH and almost unheard of for carbon DH bikes. Prices were quoted for the frame and RC4 shock at $3299 USD and delivery begins late Summer. Colors are Day-Glo lime green and Stealth matte black.

Pivot Phoenix Carbon 2015

Phoenix headsets use a flush-mount 1.5-inch lower cup and a standard, 1.5-inch upper cup. Taller riders can alter the handlebar height by switching to conventional headset cups on both ends. Fixed angle-adjust cups will be offered for the Phoenix Carbon later this year. The rear suspension is a dw-Link design configured for 27.5-inch wheels.



The new bike's 27.5-inch-wheel-tuned geometry is contemporary, with a 62.5-degree head angle, a 13.35-inch (339-millimeter) bottom bracket height, 17.4 inch (442-millimeter) chainstays, and the large frame's top tube was 24.75 inches long (6287mm). Suspension travel is 8 inches (204 millimeters) and the chassis can accept all known DH shocks. Pivot will offer dedicated headset cups that will alter the steering geometry by 3/4 of one degree by the time that the first Phoenix Carbon frames ship in August.


Construction Details

Pivot uses a 107-millimeter PressFit bottom bracket to attain the widest and therefore the strongest possible frame members in the lower frame area to support the suspension rocker assemblies. The seat tube member is projected well forward to clear the larger diameter tire at full compression and Pivot protects the massive down tube with a tough rubberized guard. As with all Pivot frames, there is plenty of stand-over clearance built into the Phoenix Carbon's top tube design.

Pivot Phoenix Carbon 2015

(Clockwise) Pivot designed the Phoenix Carbon's cable and brake hose entries to double as fork tube stops. A yoke extension allows the use of a conventional seat tube and stabilizes the suspension's leverage rate. Internal and external hex interfaces allow mechanics to use either type of wrench to secure the rear axle. Widely-spaced aluminum rockers pivot on high-load sealed bearings that, reportedly, are significantly larger than Pivot uses on its Mach 6.



Pivot uses an extension yoke to drive the top-tube-mounted shock. The aluminum extension bolts on to conventional shock eyes, so there is no need to order a shock with a proprietary interface. The rear dropout spacing is 157 millimeters for quicker wheel changes, and Pivot''s aluminum rear axle can be secured with a spanner, or an Allen type wrench. For the weight conscious, the Phoenix's post-mount rear caliper bosses direct-mount to 180 millimeter rotors, although most riders will probably choose 200s.


First Impresssions:

The Phoenix joins an ever-expanding group of dedicated lightweight DH racing machines that are tipping the scales at weights which at one time were heralded as respectable for longer-travel all-mountain trailbikes. Designer Chris Cocalis mentioned that his goal for the Phoenix was to approach the weight of his carbon framed Mach 6, which is one of the lighter weight 160-millimeter-travel AM/trailbikes made. The Phoenix came out about ten pounds over that number, but at under 34 pounds, ready to race, Pivot's new DH rig is still quite an achievement. - RC
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87 Comments
  • 59 0
 Can we have a raffle for one of these? Thanks PinkBike Wink
  • 12 0
 Fellin lucky?
  • 12 2
 My eyeball said to my brain "it just looks so nice". And then my brain said "yes it does."
  • 11 0
 Is it just me, or did this bike just get a whole lot sexier!
  • 7 0
 That is one of the best looking bikes I have ever seen. Canfield Jedi rivals this, and of course my Wilson !
  • 5 14
flag Mtbfrlife (Apr 12, 2014 at 15:59) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like a transition
  • 7 0
 Apart from the fact that the shock doesn't intersect the seat tube… a major difference. No it does not look like a transition, you are wrong and don't start this "looks like a" because the only thing it looks like is a Pivot Phoenix Carbon
  • 3 11
flag Mtbfrlife (Apr 13, 2014 at 10:33) (Below Threshold)
 No, it looks like a transition. You are wrong
  • 29 2
 Pretty much the nicest DH bike I've seen. It's crazy that we're a season or two away from a sub 30 pound racer not being an outlandish idea.
  • 5 4
 Don't you remember the 28lbs session 9.9? And it coulda been a lot lighter than that if it had carbon wheels
  • 5 4
 I seem to remember a 24Lb V10 somebody built.
  • 11 2
 A 24 pound V-10 would be the flexiest most horrible DH bike, evah. I'm speaking to DH worthy, day in day out parts, not euro weight weenie nonsense.
  • 3 0
 My 9.9 is at 34lb with the stock FR600 rims and Minion tires. Carbon bar, cranks, and Ti springs have dropped the weight. Carbon wheels would only drop another 100g a wheel more. Thinking about getting the light bike carbon rims.
  • 3 3
 The 9.9 stock was around 36lb in large. Lightest V10 I have ever seen is 32lb with carbon everything and ENVE rims. I don't think it is possible to get are "real" DH bike yet under 30 lb
  • 3 0
 My v10c is just under 30lbs. 29.15 to be exact. Without carbon hoops too.
  • 1 0
 i have a 36 lb turner with xo cranks 823 and fr 600 in the back , with minoin in the front and a butcher 2.3 in the rear, its 36.3 lbs pretty good but im gettting a direct mount stem , tubelessing, as well as getting a air cartridge for my fox 40 and carbon bars,post ,rims, profile elite hub in the back and hope or something in the front gonna be nice to see the weight change Smile
  • 1 0
 GT needs to take a hint from pivot, their 40lb+ carbon dh bikes are so cool looking, but its carbon! It should be lighter than al, not heavier!
  • 4 0
 There are crazy light bikes sub 30lb V10's. The ones that get lower usually have been built with light weight parts you probably would never want to use on a downhill bike. This is actually built with parts that you could trust 100% without resorting to stupid amounts of money on light weight less reliable parts.

brilliant job.
  • 2 0
 Air fork and shock got to save a 2 pounds. I went with the db coil and fox 40 hybrid air. What size tires are those and frame size? Very nice build, didn't think a would see a dh ready bike under 30 lb.
  • 1 0
 tks. i was surprised as well, had to use another scale to double check. tires are 2.4s frame is a medium. rides sickly.
  • 22 1
 Damn that Phoenix is hot ...
  • 17 2
 This is what happens when they don't put ' has 27.5" wheels' in the headline, no one notices it in the article and they sure as shit can't tell the difference in the photos, so no one makes stupid comments...

Interesting...
  • 20 3
 Looks a very lovely bicycle, can I please have one!
  • 3 0
 33.8 pounds aint bad too!
  • 6 2
 sorry intense, i have a new dream ride!
  • 7 0
 Where will Pivot stop, I'm in love all over again.
First the Mach 5.7c (still riding), then the Mach 6 and now the Phoenix C.
All I have is "ohh my lord". Bike porn is reaching new heights and I can't wait for #Revolution_Products NZ to get their shipment.
  • 8 0
 Pivot are some of the best riding bikes IMO, too bad I wouldn't do this one justice.
  • 5 1
 Wow, really nice looking bike and great geometry. Would love to build one up anywhere around the weight of that one. Props for going 27.5!
  • 8 2
 Carbon? More like GNARbon!
  • 6 1
 Sex on 27.5 wheels!
  • 4 0
 Literally the nicest downhill bike. The new dream..
  • 4 0
 Very nice, but does it come with a tent?
  • 1 0
 The whole thing looks so cool! However, I've seen enough carbon road bike frames with warped BB cups after a few months of riding that I can't help but be nervous about a press fit BB on a dh bike...
  • 1 0
 FYI.
I just visited Pivot's website, and they've change the reynold blacklabel wheels to DT Swiss FR 570 (for the green frame w/ saint groupset).
And until now they're not showing the price for complete bike.
  • 3 1
 Ibis finally did a DH bike hahah aside from jokes, that's a pretty good looking bike and really light
  • 1 0
 that thing is sick! i'm loving the push for lighter and lighter weight DH bikes, looking forward to seeing what happens over the next few years
  • 3 0
 Oh my!!!!!!
  • 2 0
 I think 6287mm was supposed to be 627mm
  • 1 0
 a few part swaps and you could drop that weight even lower without making it sketchy...
  • 1 0
 Air shock, super gravity/ exo protection rubber and drop the saint gruppo, buy xtr cranks, dura ace cogs and chain, saint mech, xtr brakes and shifter.
Would be around 14 kg.
  • 1 0
 wow, you went all out. I was thinking Ti spring, different rubber (dunno what tubes they're running, so maybe those too), saddle, seatpost, stem and maybe bar.
  • 1 1
 all these thing are already light carbon parts on the bike. except the stem.
  • 1 0
 There are two parts I mentioned tht are carbon, both could potentially be lighter. Pretty sure the spring and the tires aren't carbon, an those saddle rails look pretty shiny from here.
  • 1 0
 yeah, that's why i wrote air shock, exo or supergravity tires ( as the stock ones are dual ply hr2s ). seatpost and saddle should be the carbon sdg i-beam.
  • 1 0
 doesn't look like it in the picture to me... and my comment following your suggestions wasn't an argument, it was just what i was thinking for weight loss options without compromising performance.
  • 1 0
 i'm not arguing with anyone, except my pocket as it doesn't have enough money for this rig.
  • 3 1
 Needs semislicks and dropbar for the joke Sea Otter DH course
  • 1 0
 Did they let loose a smoke bomb in the background? I guess that's one way to get the frame to pop.
  • 2 0
 And I just finished my M9 build.....
  • 2 0
 Pivot finally puts out a bike with decent graphics.
  • 14 13
 Nice bike! Unfortunately it doesn't come in a 26'?
  • 1 0
 Interesting shape. Definitely need a stock rear mudguard...
  • 4 2
 me like a lot
  • 1 2
 super excited to have one of these... and not be able to get the saddle that's required to keep it from rubbing. I'm not a fan of that whole concept.
  • 3 2
 If I had the money I'd totely take this over a couple of holidays
  • 1 1
 Found a new dream bike.

The session is still a lighter frame though, right?
  • 1 0
 that looks amazing *.* well built too
  • 1 1
 This must the nicest DH bike out there now. It's like a mix between my Pivot Mach 5.7 and Santa Cruz V10c.
  • 1 0
 Total Sickness! Nice job Pivot!
  • 1 0
 Imagine in matte black. Perfection.
  • 1 0
 This bike is a thing of beauty! Drool
  • 1 0
 looks great
  • 1 3
 Should have named it Superbird. Beautiful job! Must make a racket coming down the hill, but if you like carbon bikes, you don't mind it being noisy.
  • 2 3
 Might as well write an article that says "3 more companies kill 26 at Sea Otter"
  • 7 3
 Sorry it's not companies that killed 26, it's YOU for not buying them in the last three years!
  • 3 4
 I actually have bought two 26" bikes in the last 3 years thank you very much.
  • 3 0
 Not enough of you did!!! that's why they died a quick death!!!
  • 2 1
 @ Gotshovel, you are talking crap, nearly all those that bought a DH bike up until now would have bought a 26" bike as 650B has only just started becoming available. Most companies haven't even launched a 650B DH rig to the public yet, so No it's the companies that are killing 26". I do not know one person that rides DH that has held off buying a new rig to wait for the realise of a 650B version of the same frame.
  • 2 0
 I haven't bought a new DH in the last two years because I knew 650b is coming. Don't forget, its not 26 vs 650b, people have been buying 29ers over 26" for the past decade. 650b is replacing the already dead 26" format.
  • 1 0
 beauty
  • 1 0
 Me want Phoenix!
  • 1 1
 Anyone notice the Giant stand in the background, coincident !!
  • 1 0
 so simple yet so sexy!
  • 1 4
 I hope not made in Taiwan. Lol
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