SRAM's 10 Speed Grip Shift

Feb 19, 2012 at 21:25
by SRAM  

The original SRAM Grip Shift burst onto the scene in 1990, when Greg Herbold used it to win the first-ever UCI World Downhill Championship. As XC and DH racing grew in global popularity, elite racers grew to embrace Grip Shift. XC legends John Tomac, Ned Overend and Thomas Frischknecht swore by it. Downhill stars like Anne-Caroline Chausson joined Herbold in adding it to their arsenal.

Today, athletes are riding farther and harder than ever before, pushing the limits of component technology. It’s time for the next chapter in Grip Shift history. Designed for SRAM 2X10, the all-new Grip Shift has been reengineered from the inside out. And, in true form, its inaugural race was Jaroslav Kulhavy’s 2011 XC World Championship win. Simply put, it’s one of the most advanced shifters ever created.

Precision-built, Grip Shift has been reengineered from the inside out, making it one of our most technically advanced shifters ever. Designed for no-holds-barred, high-performance racing, Grip Shift handles any conditions with ease.

Grip Shift will be available in both the XX and X0 families, compatible with all SRAM 2X10 product families. 10-Speed XX and X0 Grip Shift will be available April 2012.


Stay tuned to PB for more detailed information on the new SRAM Grip Shift soon.

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259 Comments

  • + 78
 'High-Performance' grip shifts: because everyone wants ancient, outdated, underperforming components for just as much as you'd pay for what actually works!
  • + 14
 well, usually it's lighter, right? That's why peeps still run it.
  • + 82
 No. Just no.
  • + 11
 There are places to save weight and places to add strength, drivetrain is strength over weight i think
  • + 5
 Grip Shift has it's advantages. I'd definitely probably run it for XC.
  • + 38
 I would think you'd definitely probably run a SS for XC
  • + 1
 Wouldn't be for me. Maybe on some course where I'd be changing gears all the time, ramping from first to last frequently but I see this being a bother.
  • - 9
 Going backwards. Fucking top one SRAM.
  • + 8
 this is some funny shit....
  • + 28
 Terashred, how'd you figure that? Haha.

"Advantages of Grip Shift" -typically lower cost, lightweight, minimal moving parts, easy maintenance, quickest shifting, ability to jump through a full rage of gears with one single motion, simplified cockpit, etc..
  • + 5
 Yeah, but from experience working in shops most rapidfire setups are overall more reliable, and you can get them for pretty cheap...and the shifting on a rapid fire will always be more definite than what you'll get with a grip shift just because of the way you can tune the rapidfire shifters to fire to the exact same spot every time. Also, because it's got 'X0' stamped on it, it'll be expensive.
  • + 5
 Wait, gripshift actually exists outside of shitty halfords and walmart bikes?? Lol, no thanks.
  • + 28
 I disagree, most high quality Grip Shifts have very snappy, positive indexing. I see busted Rapidfire shifters all the time, and most of them have to be replaced, whereas a Grip Shift may just need a new index spring clip thingy. Also, judging by the price of 9s XO Grip Shift, it "should" be considerably less.

I just think Grip Shift gets a bad rap because the majority of low cost bikes have them and people just assume they're bad without really looking at the facts.
  • - 3
 I've seen far more busted cheap grip shifts than busted rapid fire shifters, at least to the point of needing to be replaced. Anything high end will feel better than something cheap, but i like being able to have my shifters be out of the way without having to move my hand, i like how rapid fire can be tuned to be extremely precise every single time (more so than with grip shifts, which ive found do become more sloppy) and actually with the shifters that ive ridden i found that even though you can scroll through the gears faster with a grip shift, it actually takes more time to get there than with a rapid fire. Then again, that could just be the bikes ive ridden, a lot of people ive talked to hate on shimano saint (which is what i run) saying that it will never shift better than sram, when in fact my saint stuff has been tuned to shift better than just about anything...
  • + 6
 Yeah, I totally agree for FR/DH use. I'm not bias towards any particular setup, I think everything has is own advantages for different applications.
  • + 6
 I don't know about you, but I'm not a massive fan of accidentally shifting through all my gears when I land a big drop poorly. I know there's a few old school guys that still run it that will be stoked, but for my style of riding I will be staying away.
  • + 9
 For all you doubters out there.... I guess you didn't read the first bit..... and the second bit.....

this new, highly engineered shifter wins reces !

Forget the shite that you find on a £85 Halfords bike, these are serious shifters that are built to give you exact shifting every time. No silly levers to snap off either
  • + 31
 SRAM...

Y U NO MAKE GEARBOX ALREADY!?
  • + 26
 I used to be a hater until I tried the previous model XO grip shift and now I love them! You won't accidentally shift unless your holding on to your bars like a gorilla, however FR may not be the proper application, but for DH never once mis-shifted.

@DHshredder5: you obviously have never seen, worked on or even seen an XO grip shift because they shift much more precise than most trigger shifters on the market. Sram doesn't put "XO" on just any product. People have been winning races on with these while you were still on training wheels, Go try it before you get on the "hater bus"
  • + 18
 I found the price...

msrp
x0 $225, xx $295

WTF!!!
  • + 0
 I'll try one if I see it maybe but I don't like the idea of not being able to have a lot of grip space since the grips will have to be a lot shorter to fit it properly with brake levers. I guess we'll just have to see if these are a hit or not.
  • + 4
 Bero I hope your wrong about the price because that's RIDICULOUS!
  • + 2
 I wonder what the production cost is.. like, 20$?
What are we paying so much for?
  • + 5
 $300 for a shifter?!?!? It had better communicate with me telepathically and anticipate every gentle change in undulation to justify that ridiculous price tag. By comparison Jenson are shipping the XTR shadow plus rear mech for $199. Also expensive, but a far more intricate component and easily the biggest advancement in shifting since indexed gears were introduced. SRAM need to sit their marketing team down and figure out how the f*ck they're going to sell this thing!!!
  • + 3
 its titanium for sure, or maybe rubber became expensive in past few years...
  • + 1
 I used to love running grip shift. I thought the location on the grip would get in the way, but once I got used to it I found it rather intuitive. They also change quicker than a system like rapid fire because they change instantly with one click rather than having to wait for a push and release of the lever. The downside here is obviously the cost, which I think is overpriced. It's a shame really because with a sensible price tag I think more people would try it and they'd probably do a lot better than I'm guessing they'll do at this price.
  • - 3
 Well, Cool that they've "updated" out of date technology, however..... WHAT ARE YOU THINKING SRAM???? 300 bucks for something I could design and make for 5???? at MY cost??? Sorry, they are cosmetically unappealing and grip shift.... why make something soo expensive for the 10 people in all of North America that MIGHT buy/use it? Not completely hating on the product as I haven't used... Sram makes good stuff, but at that price and with the industry trends, are you gripshift lovers REALLY gunna run out to get a set?
  • + 5
 Gripshift4lyf!!!!
  • + 3
 be interesting to see how they perform. I wonder if they'll twist all the way round (as per old Gripshift) or just a click up/click down and spring back to its original place... still sticking with my saints though!
  • + 1
 @ skierdud, As a matter of fact i HAVE worked with the XO grip shifts before and while they do shift better than any cheap shifter (rapidfire or grip) a well tuned thumb shifter does feel more precise to me. I have also tested both on dh bikes, and the same statement holds. It's just not my style, if you want to run them go ahead...i have to say though, the cost is ridiculous, as some have said here one of the main advantages of grip shifts was that they were cheap....
  • + 1
 I'm sure it wasn't that easy to design seeing as how with a 10 speed system you pull less cable per shift than a 9spd system and so the indents inside the housing have to be closer and they probably had to think of a way to better keep it in gear so that it wouldn't jump indents and shift gears when you barely touch it. Don't forget guys this is XO we're talking about not X5. Sram is only going to release a new product if it works the way we need it to. I wish they would tell us the differences so we can try to understand the insane price difference from the 9spd XO because at the moment there is no way I will run 10spd grip shift
  • + 1
 @DHshredder5, your original argument said nothing about the XO shifters you simply made a blanket statement about cheap grip shifts
  • + 0
 The insane price difference is because its new X0 stuff and because its 10 speed, that'll come down. My point was that when i rode the X0 9 speed it still felt like a grip shift; there was still a margin for it to slip. I prefer rapid fire for various reasons, after having tried both. You, obviously, do not feel the same way. Just out of curiosity, what bike do you run or have you ridden that had those X0 grip shifts?
  • + 8
 i dont understand whats the problem with grip shifters, if someone like them then he can buy now, if you dont like them, you dont need to buy... anyway i dont use any, but they look sick! Big Grin
  • + 10
 Yeah, because you totally yank the throttle whenever you land on a dirtbike... Rolleyes
  • + 4
 for xc its great because instead of pulling a trigger 10 times to go through all of your gear, one quick spin of the wrist goes through all of your gears, which in some technical sections can save the day.
  • + 8
 If every shifter in the mtb world switched to gripshift and you don't have a choice, then you can all complain. CALM DOWN you can still buy trigger shifters, its not that big of a deal. Some people will buy it, some wont...its that simple! :0
  • - 3
 @ Nobble: shifter on a dirt bike?
  • + 9
 Oh no.... the sky is falling... SRAM finally released production ten-speed gripshifters....all the teenager "I worked in shops" experts will now explain how they KNOW more about that style of shifter than the people who have been using them since before they were even CONCEIVED. And how they know better than multiple world champion and world cup winning XC and DH racers.
  • - 5
 deeeight: I get your point, and agree with it, but it is actually impossible to use anything before it is conceived.
  • + 0
 If they worked really good i would try them... i guess
  • + 5
 I didn't say before the product was conceived... I said before the person was conceived.
  • + 3
 if you dont like it dont buy it, whatever you do stop fucking complaining
  • + 3
 @ Kinc, he was commenting on someone who said " I don't know about you, but I'm not a massive fan of accidentally shifting through all my gears when I land a big drop poorly"
and I agree, you dont see mx guys yanking the throttle when they case/overshoot a jump
  • + 0
 My apologies deeeight, I read that wrong.
  • + 2
 I'm curious, I'd like to try them but at that pricetag it's just not going to happen as there are many other things I'd like to buy before that. Hell you can nearly buy a reverb or a go pro for that price and my x9 shifters already do the job just fine imo.
  • + 2
 Or more practically, for ten speed SRAM'ing... you can get a pair of the TT road shifters and a set of Paul's thumbies mounts and have a lighter setup that is also cheaper.
  • + 3
 Honestly wonder how many of you have ridden an XO Twistshifter.
  • + 2
 I want a foot shifter like my YZ... oh wait..
  • + 3
 How many of you peeps have put time on both systems to really compare? I Have run X7 through X0 in both triggers and grips and 9 speed XT and new 10 speed XT and everyone one of those systems work as good as they are tuned.. and then the rest is down to preference..

I will say, I have seen hundreds of broken x7-x9-x0-slx-xt-xtr triggers and I have only seen 2 or 3 broken high end GS (Keyword: High End).. Plus GS is lighter, you can dump or grab more gears faster than triggers. And (9speed) X0 GS is like 1/3 the cost of X0 triggers

So Lets see.. GS is stronger, Lighter, Cheaper, and Faster..

But It really does come down to what you guys like.. Some dig it.. some dont..
  • + 0
 Ever thought that you might have seen more broken trigger shifters because 27383847382947x more people are running triggers compared to GS?
  • + 3
 and because grip shift hardly ever breaks
  • + 3
 @ PLC07 Or the fact that GS never breaks and triggers hang down off the bike and are susceptible to getting snapped off..
  • - 1
 Swan guy. Would you like to give an example of how a shifter could possibly be smashed off
  • + 3
 Pretty simple... You fall, the underside of your bars clips a rock and snaps your shift lever off.
  • + 1
 I've never seen a gearbox break... But I've never seen one either. Doesn't mean they're unbreakable though. Nothing is unbreakable and it would be foolish to claim otherwise... Unless they charge 300$ for them because they're made of adamantium but I doubt it.
  • + 4
 Adamantium is a piece of fiction, there's no such material in the real world.
  • + 2
 Yeah, everyone knows that they use Unattainium now, XD
  • - 1
 nob... it would either hit the bar end or lever, your shifter is like the moast protected thing on the bike
  • + 3
 LOL...

I've seen it happen Rolleyes
  • + 3
 I've had to repair/replace broken shifter pods in all the forms they come in. If you put a component on a bike, there is a rider out there somewhere who will find a way to crash and damage it. There is no "safe" place on a bicycle that something isn't going to get damaged ever.
  • + 0
 watch as I spam the fuck out of the walls of every person who replied to the first comment. please start a new comment, I'm sick of the fucking updates on this asinine conversation!
  • + 1
 Then you shouldn't have posted in the first place... but go ahead, spam people's walls... you obviously are seeking banishment from pinkbike.
  • + 0
 I'm seeking to educate. Y'all won't get any more attention by posting after the first/most popular comment. I'm frankly just tired of this shit blowing up my wall.
  • + 2
 I'll educate you: don't post if you don't like it when people reply.
  • + 1
 Slightly off topic, but how do the grips themselves feel? I like SDG Half waffles, will I like these?
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  • + 33
 Ahhh.Human nature at its finest. I bet all trash-talkers above have never even tried a set of the 9 speed X0 grip shifters, and are just spewing off about something they know nothing about...

I've been using Grip shift for many years, and the X0 9 speed shifters have been the most maintenance-free smooth-shifting equipment money could buy. I use them on my XC bike, my trail bike and my downhill bike, and I could count all the accidental shifts in the past 10 years on one hand, with fingers to spare.

I'm not sure about the moniker of "most advanced shifters ever created", simplicity has always been the key. However, I'll keep the faith. SRAM make great gear, and they took their time in releasing these, so I look forward to confirming that they've stepped it up yet again.
  • + 10
 I am pretty sure I have had more accidental shifts with rapid fire than with grip shifters. Rapid fire is way more intrusive than a grip shifter will ever be.
  • - 11
 As a matter of fact, i have tried the sram XO 9 speed grip shifts. I don't like the feel of sram in general, but these really felt plasticky and cheap, and that coupled with the indefinite shift points that grip shifts give you really did not make for a pleasant experience. I like with rapid fire how when you put it in a gear it goes to that gear untill you shift again, with the grip shift i was worrying about moving my hand much more. I'm sure that once you're used to it it feels better, but it's definitely not for me or what i'm riding. Of course, this is all based off personal preference...if you like how grip shifts feel then more power to you!
  • + 7
 Grip shift ROCKS!! All the haters are just spewing venom when they probably haven't even used a QUALITY grip shifter for any reasonable period of time. Personally it never go back to rapid fire for the exact same reasons these people are saying they hate grip shift....
  • + 3
 Yep, never had a prob when I used them...I consider both styles equally easy to use...
  • + 2
 well said joppy! And I would have to agree with konarider112 as well So far I haven't had any misshifts with my grip shifts that I can remember.
  • + 1
 Yeah, It's been redesigned to have 10 speeds... oooooh, technology... SPBLT
  • + 6
 I've been rolling on grip-shift since I started racing DH 15+ years ago. Never had an 'accidental shift'. You can always tell the people who've never tried them because that is their typical concern. They work great, low (and easy) maintenance, and I've had a ton of success with them. The prices for these new ones are over the top though, that's forsure.
  • + 1
 will this grip shifter come in pair? left & right? . . could I use them with ODI grip?
  • + 1
 no SRAM does not make an XO front shifter, and yes ODI is one of the few manufactures that makes a lock on grip for grip shifters
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  • + 15
 Those who run it (like me) swear by it, those who don't will forever hate it. Been running my x0 9-speed grip shifts om my Morewood for 2 years. never had a accidental shift, who rides with their hands in the middle of the handlebar?? Its the only shifter that can shift from granny to small cog in less than a second with one motion. O did i mention there is nothing to break off in a crash? Thanks Sram, now i can make the move to 10 speed.
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  • + 10
 Grip shift doesn't shit when you "land a jump" as such. You'd be supprised. Don't judge before you've tried it for yourself. Yes, it may not work for some, but it's something that has been long awaited for others. Especially among the endurance/24 hour mtb crowd.
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  • + 13
 A real rider would ride anything stop whining b****es
  • + 5
 this is PB though!
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  • + 9
 been running a front grip shift for years now - so nice to micro adjust the front.

As for the jump and shift? never had a ghost shift riding.
  • + 1
 totally agree with the micro-adjust, though some guys go overboard and cross chain the hell out of their drivetrain. I have a set of X9's that are coming up on 15 years old. I've changed the cables once and maybe a couple of barrel adjustments over the years, but on the whole it has been the most precise and smoothest setup I've ever had. No ghost shifts either.
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  • + 5
 Nothing to bang your knuckles on I suppose. The biggest thing that I hated about gripshift was how plastic they were. If these things are metal and have a real satisfying click to them I'm on board I guess. I don't have problems with a twist throttle on a motocross bike.
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  • + 5
 I am so tired of hearing people hate on grip shifts. I'd like to know, out of curiosity, how many of the haters have ACTUALLY USED a grip shifts. In XC, they're great for dumping a whole bunch of gears in a hurry when facing sudden and steep climbs. In DH, their simple and streamline design is less susceptible to damage in a crash, and I for one have NEVER had an accidental shift. Only downside with grip shifts is that they may not be fully compatible with every disc brake cyclinder/lever. For example, I switched back to triggers because the design/shape of my brakes (hayes stroker ace) I couldn't get them close enough to my fingers to comfortably reach the lever, so now with triggers, I can run the brake outboard of the shifter.
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  • + 6
 f*ck yes!!! I love grip shifters! They are so much less intrusive and easier to use! These kids saying "no way" and "that's gay" have probably never used a grip shifter.
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  • + 4
 16 years running gripshift with ZERO problems/issues. i will never run a trigger shifter since they get in the way for me and i hate the feel. i also have never had a problem mis-shifting even when i used the Half-Pipe shifters. every bike ive had and will have, will have gripshift
the new 10spd shifters look great except the fact that you are forced to use their grip.

i do love reading all the stupid comments though. haters gonna hate. keep it up!
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  • + 4
 I am completely on board with morewoodmate... Definitely those who run it swear by it... I am old school, and have ran GS since more than 15 years ago, and just love them...

I actually have the problem of accidentally shifting with rapid fire shifters, as they seem to get in the way of my hand... With GS I never had that problem... For those who say on hard landings they could auto-shift, I can say definitely not... I am a DH racer and have never done that for sure, they are really cheap and easy to maintain, and, though their look and feel are plasticky, they are incredibly strong... For example, recently on practice for a race, I ate shit at close to 60kph with a tree... the result was a completely destroyed Code lever, and incredibly so, the GS was solid (it only has a big scrapre from where the lever smashed into it... but its 100% in working order... I love on DH how precise they are, and how I can come from a pretty fast section on my lower gear and then go up 4-5 gears in one motion and get ready fro a slow, technical, pedally part of a track...

Thanks SRAM, as now I will be able to run the most current X0 10 speed setup
  • - 1
 to each his own. The accidental shifting with rapid fires surprises me though. I have my cockpit set up with the shifters in far enough that I have to reach for them to get them.
  • + 1
 i agree 100% with alfarac
  • + 1
 What I didn't like about them was those times when you where descending into say a creek crossing or g-out to immediate climb. I'd dump my gears ready for the climb out and my hand would then be in this gangly position when I needed a full grip. Apart from those instances I liked them.
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  • + 3
 Wouldn't mind gripshift on the left hand. The front mech always requires such a long thumb movement on rapidfire that I think a twist would be an improvement. As for accidentally shifting I can't see that happening. The way the hand sits on the bar the pressure is towards the outside of the hand and not the first finger. The first finger is usually braced against the brake and so would not spin easily.
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  • + 3
 I know alot of people hate gripshift but i would be screwed without them. i have been riding racing for years and both of my thumbs are weak from dislocations and every bad injury done to thumbs. I am glad they still make xo grip shift for people like me that otherwise be struggling with rapid fire. Just for the record i have never missfired with gripshift. There is a huge difference from department store x3 dog poop grip shift and x0 shifters just like sis shimano shifters and xtr.
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  • + 4
 So you are in a race run, you land of a jump and your hand slips on the grip a little and what happens you have changed gear accidentilly and your 1 second off pace!! Every second counts! never for me.
  • - 7
 My thoughts exactly!
  • + 27
 I have no experience on a high end grip shifter, but if I had a dollar for the number of times my thumb hits the trigger shifter of my x0 then I'd be rather rich. And if your hand has slipped in a race run, then you have more than likely lost time from being out of control. I wouldn't try and blame it on the shifter.
  • + 6
 hahah well said AdmanMTB All I can say to callumm is try it before you blindly join all the haters
  • + 8
 In a scenario where every second is so critical then you might want to also consider the extended amount of time it takes for a thumb to shift a lever that shifts the gears. And then also consider the recoil time necessary before that lever can be shifted again.. whereas the the grip shift is a significantly faster/more accurate shifter concept simply because there's no recoil time needed. So instead of it taking 2-3 seconds to shift, and recoil (and hopefully you get the right gear) or else you'll need a few more seconds to correct, you have a system that can go from any gear to any gear with a single flick of the wrist.

You may argue that a trigger shifter works just as fast, but that's only when the shifter is dropping to a smaller ring/cog. If the shifter is trying to climb to a larger ring you're forced through a series of thumb movements that can only move the chain a few rings at a time before requiring the whole system to reset. The grip shift not only has simpler biomechanics, but it's design allows it to move in both directions faster than the standard trigger shifter.

So far the only reasonable complaint/concern is that of slipping your hand and accidentally shifting. An issue that thanks to AdmanMTB we know the trigger shifter doesn't eliminate entirely. So again.. what's your reasoning about every second counting?
  • + 6
 I'm guessing Callumm has never tried grip shift? I used to run it a lot and never had a problem with it. Never changed gear by mistake. As others have said, grip shift is quicker (it just feels so direct and responsive, no waiting), and if your hand slips in a DH run I think you have bigger problems than whether you slip onto a shifter. Wink
  • - 3
 Rapid Rise technology, 9 speeds in 2 motions... are you really gunna twist your wrist around through all 9 or 10 in one spin on a gripshift anyhow? and if the wait was 2-3 seconds per shift I think the entire mtb world would be up in arms.... try 2/3s of a second all 9 going from smallest to biggest cogs... a little over a second on the way back down... just did it to see if it was really taking a long time.

Once again, not trying to trash the gripshift, it just seems some of the arguments for are kind of strained, or based on the grippy vs a lesser trigger shifter... I'll admit, my old Alivio shifter pods were junk, but the top end stuff is good, gripshift OR trigger.
  • + 3
 Decent rebuttal Daemongrad however yes you can go from 1st to 9th or vise versa in one twist with the XO grip shift
People need to realize that these grip shifts are NOTHING like the grip shifts on $400 and under bikes.
  • + 2
 thanks for double checking me Daemongrad. I'm out of the country and don't have my bikes on hand to double check. Also I'm wondering what parameters of the test were. My hypothesis on the time taken for an entire shift were based upon 1) Thumb moving from grip to lever 2) Time needed to push the lever and 3) Time needed for the lever to return to the original position. Now obviously on the release lever this could be just as fast as the grip shift, but for the other direction the time needed to push the lever full length is undeniably longer.

Second: Rapid rise doens't provide two direction, but rather simply reverses which direction the chain goes when the cable is pulled or let go, so it's still no solution to the problem because one lever still has to be pushed a good inch for a full shift(it may be less if you're only going one gear at a time.. again no bike on hand, so going from memory.. feel free to double check me). But there were also other problems with rapid rise which is why you probably don't find it for 10 or 11 speed set-up.

I've run both and ended up staying with the trigger shifter mainly because it took up less bar space and I had a larger choice of grips, but I would definitely argue that when it came to shifting accuracy and ease the grip shift took the cake.
  • + 1
 ahh... I was just feeling a little argumentative this morning... Bad sleep or something, I get those moods sometimes, lol.
  • + 4
 If when you land a jump weird you accidentally shift how come on a mx bike you never accidentally accelerate?
  • + 0
 1st to 9th in one click or visa versa seems dangerous to me
  • + 2
 Its 1 click per gear not 1 click for all the gears.
  • + 0
 I have never ridden mx fo realy, but i do ride a motorbike around the farm and stuff and like to piss about on the humps and bumps. But dont you usually have the throttle back before you land? Pluss there is more resistance on the throttle
  • + 1
 I would say they are about the same and what size of bike are you riding if you have the throttle pinned when you land?
  • + 1
 resistance isnt measured in size. But if you read the above someone states you can do it all in one click. But i ride a 125 and a 250, but yeah when watching the big boys sounds like that have the throttle back slightly when they land or am i wrong?
  • + 1
 Sorry i didnt read your comment properly, you didnt say resistance was size Razz
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  • + 2
 I can say having run both rapidfire shimano sram and gripshift I prefer gripshift to them all. I ran xo gripshift for 5 seasons on both xc rigs at the semi-pro level and dh at the same level. Never had an issue with it. Did however go through allot of rapidfire sram shifters when I made that switch from breaking off the thumb levers.
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  • + 6
 No way in hell my 951 will see a grip shifter!
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  • + 2
 I don't like the word hate so... I dislike gripshifters with a passion most of you can only dream about. But the higher end ones do work very well. It all comes down to personal taste. We all know that.We also know that it doesn't matter which product/vid/pic etc gets posted, some children love to say controversial things. If we all just ignore them then they have no impetus. Simple.
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  • + 4
 everyone is complaining , UNTIL!!!!!! you see sam hill , troy brosnan running these grips , then you will see it on every mountain bike in whistler this season .
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  • + 2
 Everything old is new again.

I remember when the original (offline) flame wars were on between Rapidfire+ and GripShit adherents (guess you can tell which side I came down on)... I referred to them as carpal tunnel shifters because my wrists kept getting sore after rides. Far as I'm concerned that was an evolutionary dead-end, but I'm happy if others find their shifting nirvana.

I'm still going to call it GripShit, though :-)
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 I think SRAM is smart to make high end grip shifters. The older generation is sentimental about them and probably have money to spend. The younger generation won't be interested, they are already used to rapid fire style shifters.
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 Great news that grip/twist shift now comes in 10 speed. I have never had a problem with durability or accidental shifting on mine. Once you get used to where to keep your thumb and index finger you can shift anytime you want and change multiple gears at once. I rode a friends bike with shimano paddle shifters and would never use anything but Grip Shift. Nice job SRAM!!
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 I'm all for it. I stopped looking at 10 speed, because Sram didn't offer grip shifters. I'm still running the 9.0SLs that I've had for quite some time. They still perform like new and out performed 7.0 trigger shifters. Ghetto? No. They work well and keep going in the worst conditions like they're out of the box.
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 Why so many negs re: Grip Shift. I've run it for years. It rocks! I've also tried everything else that's come down the pike... some good stuff, some not so good. Frankly, I think most of the equipment is fine; just comes down to personal preference. Why get so opinionated about someone else's preferences? Am I missing something here?
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 Im sorry but i must say the Gripshift works awesome, i personally own an xo gripshift (and it was 55$), the shifts are nice and clean and right on the mark everytime, I use both trigger shifters and the gripshift and i like both, and also Sram does not just release a product just because... these new gripshifts are world cup proven and have been meticulously tested just like everything else out there... im sure these will work amazing (just like everything Sram makes) and some people are going to love them and then others are just going to waste their time complaining, so shut up and go out and ride....
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 Eh theyve always worked great for me...
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 Grip shift was good for fine tuning the front der. But that was about it from my standpoint. You could trim out the front der while you could not do that on a trigger shifter. Not sure that feature is worth anything to a DH or 1Xanything rider but it's still a good option for XC racers.
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 There's no trim in the new 10 speed ones because they're only being made for double-ring cranks.
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 I've ridden with X0 grip shift for 2 seasons now and will never go back to trigger! It's the best. just a simple flick of the wrist and your in the right gear. I also put mine on the left so that its upside down and easier to shift to harder gears.
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 I have a old X9 gripshift set right now for my XC bike, sure I'll be tossing it for a much better XC sled in a few weeks, but I like the feel of grip shift, it's unobtrusive, being able to dump the gears down I have found useful to many times, and I don't feel any missed precision even with a entry level shimano drive train, just give them a try, if you don't like it neat, it's not for everyone.
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 When I am REALLY tired, I find it much easier to use twist shift. It is less fatiguing than triggers. I also do not have these miss-shift problems with twist shifters. My thumb hits the paddle and accidentally shifts shimano and sram triggers more often than I miss-shift my twist shifters!
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 I have used Gripshift since 1992 or thereabouts, starting with 7s SRT500s. I remember they worked OK if the cables were clean. SACHS came out with the Power Grip Wavey and Extreme which took the piss out of Gripshift with its easy cable change, easy grip change, low friction, impeccable action. That was the first shifter I had the would move the mech the exact same amount as the shifter moved - twisting the shifter a little bit but not far enough to click into the next notch would move the mech. No friction at all inside, awesome. A few years out of the sport, I heard SRAM bought SACHS' shifter business and the X7 shifter I bought doesn't work as well as the old Wavey Grip. The problems I have are that upshifts aren't as quick because they've moved the free play to the other side of the index click, and the grip is still too long and very difficult to cut down. I shortened mine by 12mm but it took about an hour and a lot of thinking. Those old SACHS shifters you literally pulled the twist grip off, sawed the end off to your preferred length, and stuck it back on again. Perfect. If I could but one again now I would, and they were only about 12 quid each. What I dislike about rapidfire is that you have to partially let go of the bar with your thumb to shift.
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 I love it. from a racing stand point just seems to be able to grab more gears in a hurry. I tried 10speed trigger for about 6 months and had to go back to 9speed grip I guess for some its just a personal preference
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 It is good to have grip shifters on the market as an option. I think it is a matter of personal preferences whether or not you are going to get it..

Regarding me: Thanks Sram, but no thanks. I will stick to my X0 trigger shifter Smile
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 I've been a believer in grip shift since they came out 20 some years ago. A worthy successor to XT Thumb shifters before there even was XTR. I tried some X9 grip shifts and they did not shift well, going back to trigger shifters ruined my season as I hate ridding the bike so much I didn't ride last year.
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 You haters are on CRACK! Smile Grip shift is the best, most reliable way shift. You won't have the goofy pod stuck to your bars, I have X7 and X0 and the X7 is as good! Super happy with it! I didn't mind pods, but when I went to grip shift, I don't think I could go back.
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 These comments could only come from people who have never used the high end (XO, X9) twisties and think they're only for low end bikes.
That's just ignorant.
There is nothing low end or ghetto about sram's high end twisties. They shift as fast as anything out there. (Comon, move your wrist a 1/4" and it shifts-instantly-just like the paddles) and nothing else comes close when you need to quickly dump multiple gears. Also, anyone who worries about accidentally twisting your wrist and shifting has never tried them. It just doesn't happen.
The fact that they're an inherently simple design, with few moving parts, and easy to work on is a plus, not a minus.

If you prefer shifting with your thumbs, by all means stick with it. But saying twisties are cheap or ghetto, just because low end bikes come with cheap versions of them, is just stupid.
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 Greep shift performances great for cranks in Enduro. You avoid changing a chainring by hitting with your knee. How offer do you chankge your chainring ? so better keep it that way more safer. By the other hand it does not works in my opinion on the dearilieur shifter cause you can´t brake and change guide at the same time.
That´s all.
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 Wow. I can't belive that SRAM is forcing people at gunpoint to use a new product like this. Shame on them for bothering everyone by releasing a new product.
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 Haha, haven't you read pinkbike comments before? You just gotta hate one product or the other!
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 I have an X9 GS on my DH bike and X0 GS on my trail bike. They are both great. The XOs are super smooth. I have never had trouble with ghost shifting or ripping through my gears if I mess up a jump or drop. I had to switch to GS because of a thumb injury. I am happy there is an alternative to triggers. Without them I would be stuck riding a single speed. I think they definitely have their place.
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 I've run both XO shifters and got on fine with them both. The only downside of the gripshift was in the wet and mud you could get a good enough grip to shift properly. It was nice having it tucked out the way but I've gone back to x9, cheaper and works just as well as x0.
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 I can only remember useing the twist gear shifter back in the day. climbing a hill and the gears changed, because i twisted it climbing cause of gravity. so I dont think I would use it and if I did try it and it sucked Ill be out a couple hundred dollars that could have went into my bike.
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 My experiences with grip shift in the dry have been aright. That said, my experiences with them in XC races in thick slimey mud have been horrid and I won't be going back. Just run your trigger shifters farther in on the bar and the accidental shifting problem will be non existent.. if that doesn't work, then figure out how to make your hands do what you want them to.
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 no mention of how much lighter it is than regular 10spd? That's all gripshifties care about!
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 Two steps forward, one step back, same price tag
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 Two steps forward, one step back is still one step forward. Wink
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 Id like to try them on my XC bike.
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 Been running grip shifts for years. I just upgraded to a set of carbon XO shifters and other that the mode of shifting, it shifts just as well as triggers. Hate all you want, they weight 90g.
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 Light and crisp shifting. I like! But only for XC. And for people who complains that Sram is going backward: this happened because of the popular demand.

And the one with the gearbox complain. They've done that (kind of), with Shlump's design Hammersmith. And it was heavy and costy. We're talking about something more for the XC scene here, where light is king. And we're not talking about cheap gripshift from xingwong shifter here. Old X.9 shifter from Sram use to be VERY reliable. Just not for DH for my opinion.
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 Good bye 8 speed, hello 10! I' swapped out all my XTR and XT 9 speed stuff for 8 Speed Attacks. It's bombproof and fool proof. But then again, what do I know, I also ride Manitou...?!
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 Im guesing you can replace the grip, but will it have to be a specific grip? Couldnt they of made it just the shifter so you could just slide it up to the end of a standard grip?
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 Super gay. What's wrong with rapid fire and grips that stay where you put them?

I can't think of anything I'd take off my bike sooner. SRAM still desperately looking for a niche I guess
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 I SEE NEW PEOPLE
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 to many comments of Sram living in the past bringing back old stuff, how many of you have 3D TV's/pc's? Probably quite a few of you. You do realise 3D was 80's tech? They brought it back and its popular. Oh and we pay more than quadruple what we used to pay to see 3D. Now, new grip shifters, it was 90's tech that's been brought back and we are told it's better than ever... at ridiculous prices. Rather than bitch about how it's going to be shit, maybe wait till some reviews come out or wait till bikes put them on and try them out of your local store. Those who bitch about how it's definatly going to be shit why are you even reading this? Your clearly not interested in the product, thats no different to me reading on stuff about apple and i know it's shit and overpriced but i don't sit there and bitch on forums and stuff about them. I like the idea of grip shift, so long as it works how it should.
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 3D came out in 1915 and became popular in the 50's.
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 interesting, didn't know it went back that far, i just remember seeing teenage mutant ninja turtles as a kid in 3d in the 80's
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 GripSHIT more like..
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 haha yes kinny Big Grin
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 Oh man, GripSHIT. Ha. Never heard that one before.


Oh wait, yes I have. About 10 years ago. When they were new.
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 Gripshift were NOT new ten years ago. Just because you were new to bikes, doesn't make the product new also.
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 I've been riding bikes for the better part of the past 20 years. I know Gripshift isn't 10 years old. It came on the scene around the late 80s. We had a set of new old stock Gripshift road shifters in a store where I worked many years ago. They were horrid.
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 Cool idea but I wouldnt use it. What happens when the grip wears out buy a new grip shifter? The only way I would do it it grips we're cheap , but these probably Arnt.
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 it is $15 to replace the grip.and 5 minutes of time.i have them on my DH and all mountain.never had miss shift
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 Yeah , it probably would be easier but I just probably wouldn't use it.
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 I can't say about strength or or how well the product works, but I can say thats the most retarded looking shifter ever, looks like it belongs on a super cycle. Hey it may work amazing but I would think someone would have to be bonkers to spend the same price as a sram xo on this "sram xo".
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 I remember when I was seven and thought these were stupid. never really liked them not even now. trigger/ thumb/ or single speed FTW!
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 Haters gonna hate, shredders gonna shred.
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 i thought biking was moving forward but with these it seems to be going back. grip shifts are shit no matter what manufacture makes them. !!!!!!!
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 This is going to be on so many professionals downhill rigs, just wait and see...
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 i thought i was done with this crap when i got into mtb
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 The crap of whiners on a forum who have never won a major race, haven't worked in that many shops, or otherwise never had to use their own brains further than repeating the same myths about a product that their sister's uncle's cousin's neighbour's postman's dogwalker told them? That crap? Oh its alive and well in many sports where web forums exist for them. Its definitely not exclusive to mountain bikes.
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 you have a good point, i shouldnt have gone straight out and said that... i just personally dont really see a point but everyone has opinions
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 Even if they don't accidentally shift (doubt it) you still can't choose your grips right? What if you don't like the grip that comes on it?
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 Increasing price tags for a decreasing economy... SRAM who do you think wants to spend that much money on something just to "try it out".
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 Wow! We may as well be arguing over clipless or platform.... Each to their own.
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 no. no. no.
I do not want to shift with my grip. I do not want to shift with my brake lever. I do not want to shift backwards. I don't need "light action" I don't really want to have to shift a front derailleur if i don't have to.
I like 10speeds in the back, I like shadow, I like positive reliable shifts, and i like the idea of that clutch thingy. And I don't think I'm alone here.
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 Seriously?!?!? Talk about living in the past, why not bring back cantilever brakes while your at it?
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 It's not living in the past, grip shift never went away, it's just not been as popular as triggers. Cantilever brakes are unanimously inferior to discs, whereas grip shift are not necessarily inferior to triggers, it is debatable (as this article has shown).
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 Just as popular, dude I've been riding for over 10 years and ride with a hell of a lot of people and I know to absolutely nobody who's rode with a gripshift in the last 8/9 years.
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 'Just as popular'?
I've been riding for way over 10 years, and I don't know many who ride grip shift either, but that doesn't mean it disappeared. It's still been around.
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 That's it ! I'm going to singlespeed and a coaster brake on my DH!!! WHO'S WITH ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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 looks like im getting new shifters for my killswitch and mob.................. :o
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 WOW all this over a set of Grip shifts, maybe you haters should wait till it comes out and give it a try, Sram doesn't release things just because, so shut the hell up
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 I can safely say that my Gripshift SRT 800 X Rays from 95/96 I think, were the worst mountain bike component I ever owned. Hope these are better!
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 The clear plastic body ones while pretty looking, did have major reliability problems compared to the model below them (SRT-600s) which in fact were lighter and used a better quality plastic for the shifter body. It didn't help matters that SRAM didn't yet have their own derailleurs and shimano had just switched to their "light-action" return springs, which while great for rapidfire shifters also screwed over gripshift users who's shifters had excessive cable friction issues to deal with. Remember all those aftermarket coil derailleur springs and bassworms/nightcrawler shifting aids that were sold to improve the feel of gripshifters when paired with shimano derailleurs ?
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 Thank god SRAM can't write a press release. Then again, everyone has some kinda problem with that....
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 Agreed - who thought "...no holds barred..." was good copy for this particular product.
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 I cannot judge this either way - I have to have an extended trial on AM turf.
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 wow I'd love to rock grip shifts on my xc bike! BUT NOT SRAM! Come on shimano, bring on the legit grip shift!
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 Where i'm from that is where scrams made.... i built one the other day.... then i went back to my whole
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 Never a big fan of gripshift for jumping of any kind or dh riding. It might work good for xc or am. As much as people like moto technology twisting your hand possition on a lightweight jump bike might not be ideal.
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 NONONONONONNONONONNONONNONO
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 Im assuming thats $300 for the whole drivetrain, not just the shifters. Still too much though.
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 its not. its only for the shifters
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 Whatever floats your boat
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 i kinda wanna run this on my empire5...
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 XO gripshift won the last olympics...SRAM must have been doing something right.
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 XC olympics...
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 XC olympics as opposed to what - BMX?
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 Not everyone knows that XC is the only MTB sport in the Olympics.
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 oh boy, now i need to decide if i wanna rock grip-shift!!!!
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 Go on... You know you wanna...
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 greg herbold did not use the grip shift to win the worlds in 1990, he used a up side down thumb shifter-fact
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 Not for me but I'd like to try 'em.
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 i laughed when i seen this...but its pre cool
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 I swear these were on my bike when i was 10... :/
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 i had to check it wasn't April first when i read this.
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 I'm not a sram fan, but all I got to say is that its about time.
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 I think they aren't the best idea... !
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 i thought it was called Grip Shit?
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 BRING BACK HALF PIPES!
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 KILL IT WITH FIRE
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 dude if you put it this way, this kind of shifters don't brake and don't need that much maintenance ass others
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 must have never worked on sram before Wink
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 "ass" lol
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 shifters shouldn't brake...if they do, then you're in trouble...brakes brake....
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 Brake = stopping
Break = SNAPPING
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 oops I did not notice I wrote ass instead os as, my bad there sorry
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 yea, I need to work on my spelling big time
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 if i wanted a grip shift id go to walmart
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 Thats ghetto!!
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 You couldn't pay me to run these. Why are they coming back? whats next, bar ends?
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 Ultra light, carbon fibre, SRAM mud guards?! Get in!!
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 Yeah, Bar Ends and a Basket up front my DH Rig
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 " Why are they coming back? "

But they never went away in the first place !!

The only thing I don't understand is why SRAM didn't release these as soon as things went 10 speed. By delaying things for a few years, it's only made people suspicious that they're not proper components.

My 'for and against':
+ Nothing to bash your knees into
+ Nothing to break if you crash
+ Can change gear while wearing skiing gloves (essential if you ride in severe winter conditions)
+ Lighter
- Possibly a bit more awkard to change gear while breaking at the same time, compared to trigger levers
- Wavy shape of rubber grip can make your hand sore after many hours on bumpy conditions
- The 'clicks' feel 'plasticky', and not particularly 'precision-like'

In terms of comparisons, I've got cheapo gripshift on one of my bikes and X0 on the other. You actually need to twist X0 a bit more to change (probably due to the 1:1 ratio), but the clicks are very solid in both directions.

Anyway, I love 'em. I've got SRAM trigger shifts on another bike, but I seem to do most of my riding in really bad weather and on rough ground and I just feel better with Gripshift.
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 Does it feel a little like letting go of the bar to shift? seems like you use the most important fingers to shift, compromising leverage on your bars.
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 - The 'clicks' feel 'plasticky', and not particularly 'precision-like'

The click is the same for those compared to old generation? How can you tell?
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 Diabolicus: How does changing gear when you're braking work? You have to pedal to change gear, and if you're pedalling at the same time as you're braking then you're going to have a problem!
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 JonathanCarre: Good question, I'll explain....picture this - the trail suddenly drops steeply down to the right, you swing round, braking down the slope and suddenly you're faced with a steep uphill, but you're still in the big ring. So you've now got about half a second to change to a lower gear, but you still need to dab the brakes. You need to change gear and brake at the same time.

Or switching to a road race scenario (dare I mention this here !) - you're 200 mtrs from the finish line, you're ready to sprint in a high gear, but there's a touch of wheels, the bunch slows down, you're dabbing the brakes, but now need to change to a lower gear to accelerate back up to speed again. This all happens within about 3 seconds, there's no time to hesitate. You need to change to a lower gear while braking. Interestingly, you can only do this with Shimano STI and not with Campag/SRAM as Shimano road brake levers are also the gear upshift lever.

I've been racing cyclocross, MTB and road for many years and I'm often faced with the above scenarios. Sometimes things happen so quickly you need to 'multi-task'.

As for pedalling while braking, you're only turning the drivechain to allow the gear change to occur, you're not putting any tension on the chain.

So I gave Gripshift a -ve here as it's not quite as easy to twist while pulling the brake lever as it is to push a trigger shifter with your thumb. But I'd still buy Gripshift again despite this.
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 Possibly, but tension or not the chain has to move to change the gear, you could do that I suppose if you were braking but allowing the wheel to move, but definitely not if the back wheel is locked, which it may well be on a steep slope. I concede there may be instances where this may happen, but for me it would be rarely, and I would be changing just after releasing the brakes instead. With the gripshift the faster change would help with this too. It may be an issue for some people but I'm guessing for the majority it wouldn't be.
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 Grip shift, please go away.
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 gimmicky and a proper arse mechanicly. more to go wrong.
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 AGGGGGGG SHIT SHIFT
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 No way in hell will I EVER use a Grip Shift on a bike.
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