Final Randoms Part 1 - Eurobike 2012

Sep 5, 2012 at 13:16
by Alasdair MacLennan
 
Hope Tech
Hope always has something on display at Eurobike to grab your attention, whether that be a teaser for something some way in the distance, or something that's ready for market. Their trademark of sharp machining and bright anodizing always catches your eye and leads you into their booth to see what's been knocked up on their CNC machines in the run to the show.

Tech Evo V4
  Hope's faithful V2 had been in service since 2007 when it was introduced with the old Moto lever, but with the game of evolution never ending it was time for a refresh and rethink. In its place is the V4, a larger and more powerful version of the M4 and capable of accepting Hopes vented rotors. Featuring longer and shallower pads with greater surface area than the outgoing brake allows all Hope brakes to now use the same depth of rotor. The new caliper is stiffer too, controlled by Hope's Tech Evo lever with bearing pivots and an increase in power of 15% thanks to revised geometry. The leading piston is 18mm while the smaller trailing is 16mm and stolen from the M4. Lighter, better performing and smoother acting, it should add up to a very high performance brake.

Flat Pedals
  It's taken a while (we first showed them here last year) but at last Hope have the production pedal ready. Although lacking a concave shape the pedal is reasonably thin and boosts grip by having sharp machined ridges in the 2014-T6 aluminium body to augment the 20 standard pins. As with all things Hope they've put a lot of effort into the sealing. This should ensure that they continue to spin freely on their Norglide bush and triple cartridge bearing arrangement, even after the ravages of a disgusting winter and regular riding in atrocious conditions.

SRAM Compatible XD Freehub Body & Integrated Cassette
  Although on show, the XD freehub is so new they haven't yet progressed it to the mill, this one created using 3D printing. It should be available soon though so if you're planning to get yourself hooked up with the latest SRAM drive train you now have another option for your wheels. Compatible with all Pro3 & Pro2 Evo hubs it will be fully compatible with the new XD cassette featured on the XX1 drive train. Across their full range of hubs hope have reduced the power of the pawl springs to improve rolling resistance. Some may bemoan the quieter click but most will no doubt be quite happy with this change, especially if the wheels are faster rolling as a result.

The integrated cassette is another item that's been in the prototype stages for a while. Although the AM version isn't quite ready, a slimmed down DH model could be just around the corner which will see either six or, more likely, seven cogs. Seven is touted as some derailleurs struggle to sufficiently limit their movement to use less. Smaller cogs will be steel while the other end sees extensive use of titanium to reduce weight. The 9T bottom cog will allow the use of a 32T chain ring for the virtual equivalent of an 11T/38T combo. We're itching to get a first ride on this so we can bring you the low down on how it performs so as soon as we can get our hands on one you'll be the first to know.

Integrated Bash Rings & Chain Device

  A simple and lightweight unit made from 7075-T6 hard anodised aluminium, the bash guard is integrated into the chain ring to minimise weight. Aimed at the trail and all-mountain market the low profile design is available in two separate parts, the IBR and the guide itself. Although designed to work in conjunction, Hope say that there'll be no problem with running the guide with another manufacturers bash should you prefer to keep it separate to the chain ring. Available in several mounting options (BB, ISCG & seat tube), and ring sizes from 32T-36T in single tooth increments.

Eternity Layback Post
  The original Eternity post was so called because it took so long to get it on the shelves but thankfully this layback version is already on its way as you read this. Updated from the original two piece unit with bonded head, the layback post is now single piece thanks to a 3D forging which is then finalised on the CNC machines to the shape you see here.




e*Thirteen
Prototype Carbon Fibre Chain Device
   The epoxy had barely cured when these two carbon backplates turned up at the show last Friday. Tucked away in the booth you'd be forgiven for not noticing them but they mark the company's first foray into the world of Carbon. Rather than cut from sheet as some carbon guides are these are molded which means added strength. Obviously these examples aren't yet finished but even so we were excited to see them and look forward to seeing how they hold up in use.

Steve Peat Signature Guide
  Steve Peat is not only a top level World Cup rider who has been around since the sports early days, he is a brand. With perhaps more signature products to his name than virtually any other rider, Tomac aside, this Steve Peat guide from e*Thirteen may differ only in colour and graphics from the superb stock LG1+ but that is unlikely to dent its popularity.

Revised Bottom Bracket
  When e*thirteen first released their cranks last year they used a wave crush washer and poly spacers to take up slack in the bearings as the crank tightened down on the polygonal tapered axle. This has seen revision for 2013 and is now a ratcheted dial called APS Adaptive Preload System which can be turned by hand after tightening up the crank to preload the bearings. Updates have been made elsewhere to include titanium nitride coated angular contact bearings which survive better on un-faced bottom bracket shells as well as now offering even more options to fit virtually any bike out there.

SRS is no more, but don’t worry
   That's right. The long standing SRS guide from e*Thirteen has been removed from the range. With the popularity of the LG1+ among the racers, and those riders looking at the SRS for the toughest guide possible, the decision was taken to alter the line up slightly. You can still run a bash guard based guide but on the LG1+ with slightly altered plastics top and bottom to accommodate the bash and in this incarnation is called the LG1+ Turbo. This means that you essentially have two bash guards, a rotating outer and a stationary inner. It's unlikely to appeal to weight weenies but then that's the purpose of the LG1+, and the twin-plate design should prove virtually indestructible if past experience with the separate items is anything to go by.

Updated TRS Crank range
  Three cranks now sit in this lightweight trail and all mountain range. The entry level TRS (not pictured) and the top level TRS Race (right) sandwiching the TRS+ (left). The TRS Race is heavily sculpted and as a result comes in at 721g including bottom bracket at a 22-36T combo. The revised cranks utilise a replaceable spider which offers the opportunity to replace a bolted chain ring for a one piece unit if you're looking to go either singlespeed or run a chain device (as pictured on the TRS Race) which reduces the weight further still.




Danny Hart's 'Help for Heroes' Giant Glory
  Hart's 'Help for Heroes' bike was on display at the Giant stand. Used for the Fort William World Cup earlier in the year, the brightly polished bike was adorned with the names of service men and women killed in action in a tribute to their lives. It's great to see top athletes in our sport supporting causes like this, with Hill's Cancer Research work and all those others who do their own thing. In the UK, Help for Heroes actively supports injured soldiers through sport, many of the current British Paralympians competing in London 2012 having being found through the programme.

Reign SX
  Giant also had their Reign SX on display in this striking colour scheme with colour co-ordinated Rock Shox Domains and brake lines.




KTM
We recently featured KTM's press launch which covered the new for 2013 29" wheeled Scarp and the 650B Lycan. There were two bikes of note for the PB crowd which we didn't cover in much detail, the Bark and the Aphex/Ratchet, but here they are.

Bark
  Having had the 2012 model Bark 20 on long term test we thought it appropriate to show the new 2013 models here. The frame remains unchanged but specification has been updated and the number of bikes reduced to two, the 20 (top), and the 40 (bottom). Drivetrains are exclusively Shimano and feature Shadow+ technology for minimized chainslap and a massive reduction in chain drop as a result. The 20 features the latest Fox CTD range of suspension, XT drivetrain, Zee brakes and a Reverb dropper post with the 40 coming with SLX and a Rock Shox fork.

Aphex & Ratchet

  KTM's gravity line up has also received some updates for 2013. The Aphex is the bike currently piloted by Fionn Griffiths on the World Cup circuit and the slacker for 2013 (63.5 degree) head angle is a direct result of feedback from their development riders. An FSA +/-1.0 headset comes standard on both the race ready Aphex and the entry level Ratchet. Full Saint and Fox suspension comes stock on the Aphex with the Ratchet taking a Boxxer RC from Rock Shox, mated with Shimano's new Zee groupset.




Moveo
Eurobike 2012
  Moveo are a Spanish brand which has been quietly moving in on the neck brace scene over the past few years. Some innovative features enable it to truly be a one size fits all model and gives users the chance to fully customise the fit and range of motion it allows.

Although a little plain without the graphics installed, they do come with them already in the box (as seen above) and seem like a very competent alternative to those from Alpinestars and Leatt. They're available in both thermoplastic and carbon fibre to suit differing budgets and take a one size fits all approach with all necessary components included to allow the adaptation for larger and smaller bodies. We've got one on its way for a test so we'll put it through its paces and report back. Also shown alongside the brace were a range of compatible bags for riders looking to ride with a pack that doesn't interfere with the fitting of a neck brace. Hardly a consideration when racing but if spending all day out in the mountains, away from hotel or car, then more than likely there'll be a need to carry some spares and food.




Chris King
Chris King needs no introduction, their headsets and hubs having been the top-drawer go to for years. In recent years the introduction of multiple standards for hubs, headsets and now bottom brackets has led to an explosion in the number of products they now offer.

Hubs
  Spot anything unexpected? This 157mm rear hub was created especially for use by the Santa Cruz Syndicate as they develop the Mk4 V10 for production with their team. As sponsors of the team this left Chris King with one option, and while the frame may be some way off, you can get the hubs already. As the standard intended, it's basically a 150mm hub with a longer axle to sit in the recesses on the frame and uses the same Ring Drive system that CK became famous for.

Headsets & Bottom Brackets
  How many headset combinations are now available? Twenty seven, and that's a lot of headsets. Integrated, taper, zero stack, they all feature in the range. In the world of bottom brackets there are now your typical X-Type as well as the numerous press fit styles for both road and MTB frames.

  Chris King also had several other pretty special parts lined up on their stand:

Top left Disc specific road/cyclocross hub. Yeah, it's for narrow tyres but real brakes are finally beginning to take hold in their world
Top right How nice? This Levi's/Chris King collaboration commuter jacket was pretty trick with Chris King details throughout
Middle Have a Chris King BB? Well then you'll need this tool replace the grease in those bearings and keep them running sweet
Bottom left An obligatory cut away shot of the famous Chris King Ring Drive showing the finely engineered internals
Bottom right If you like your tools then we're pretty sure you'll appreciate this, a Chris King workshop tool for BB servicing



118 Comments

  • + 42
flag jhb11 (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:13)
 Chris king headsets last for DECADES
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flag damixtape (Sep 5, 2012 at 23:29)
 My name is john not Chris King... NEVER MIND what the jacket says!
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flag reverend (Sep 5, 2012 at 23:41)
 CK= The Dog's Dangly Bits!!!
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flag bigburd (Sep 6, 2012 at 1:50)
 Chris king jeans only 500 dollars , with 10 year warranty
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flag cyberhawk Plus (Sep 6, 2012 at 3:36) (Below Threshold) show comment
 i dont hold CK that high..
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flag bigburd (Sep 6, 2012 at 3:50) (Below Threshold) show comment
 Same here cyberhawk , I think if you take away the hype and endless fanbois you end up with good parts no doubt but nothing as good as people lead you to believe.
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flag Jiffla (Sep 6, 2012 at 4:14)
 KTM producer of the ugliest DH bikes in existance..
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flag cyberhawk Plus (Sep 6, 2012 at 5:28)
 eey burd.. thats spot on ! if you order a CC headset you get additional seals with them bigger contact area.. aaaaand a compression ring .. ta bumb tss. ow and cheaper..
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flag jacque-lucque (Sep 6, 2012 at 10:58)
 I lust after Chris King quite shamelessly...
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flag twozerosix (Sep 6, 2012 at 13:25)
 CK: put it on and forget it. Tolerances are insanely tight, colors are fun, and works for decades like jhb11 said. CC got into the game late and while they do make good headsets they are not synonymous with headsets like CK is. And bigburd what hype are you referring to? They are the least hypey brand in cycling. The stuff just speaks for itself in terms of quality. Plus they have an established recycling/environmental program, plus employ tons of ppl in a big American city, plus they have a kickass in-house cafe to buy lunch, which is discounted if you bike to work. I've bought at least 10 headsets, a hub and a bb over the last 15 years and no complaints.
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flag IllestT (Sep 6, 2012 at 13:41)
 Contrary to most people's experience, Chris King is actually the only headset I've ever properly broken. The lower cup split. Maybe it was a one-off, but after the trouble I had warranty-ing it, I just went back to FSA
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flag cyberhawk Plus (Sep 6, 2012 at 23:09)
 a mate of mine broke 2 asxles.. incl. the heavy duty one.. another i know of.. wrecked the drive train with trials.. my headsets kept creaking and another one was digging in my frame because the insertions are very short.. not my cup of tea.. i sold all i had from them..
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flag cyfa89 (Sep 22, 2012 at 8:33)
 Yeah its all hype. Decent bearings and ace back in the 90's but times change. I had a king headset. Creaked within 3 weeks. Poor design, so they change it (compression ring). Yet they still charge for the new part. Could hold their hands up and admit a fault. Not rape you for even more money.
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flag elethim (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:17)
 Hope and Chris King always have the blingbling stuff that makes our eyes go as big as the eyes of that little monkey in Alladin as he goes through the cave of wonders... But what about that reign , seems like coming straight out of the fisher price's factory with thoses colors...
  • + 4
flag rubyrod44 (Sep 5, 2012 at 21:21)
 hahahahah. YES! (on the Aladdin part)
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flag Carrot-Top (Sep 5, 2012 at 21:54)
 Should be renamed "Chris Bling".
  • + 13
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 6, 2012 at 0:38)
 I'd buy CK rear hub to scare the sht out of fixies. You're on the way to work/school, stop at the lights and The Fixie bugger passes on the red light almost knocking you (or someone else standing and waiting) off the bike. You start crawling up to him from behind after few hundred meters, as soon as you come very close almost touching his rear wheel with your front tyre, you just cease pedalling, and the hub goes EEEEENEEN NEEEEN NEEEEN NENN NEN NEN NEEEN NEEEEEN !!!

Works even better on roadies on their way for training, especially under bridges and in tunnels under roads, I love to do it on my Hope hub, but it is not as loud as CK, you just constantly sneak up to the guy and coast letting the freewheel make some noise! again and again
  • + 6
flag Fix-the-Spade (Sep 6, 2012 at 3:47)
 WAKI that's pure evil, but hilarious.
What's even better is when you're following a guy (or in a group) and one of you stops pedalling, then everyone else stops pedaling and you get a little screaming Hope symphony.
  • + 1
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 6, 2012 at 4:20)
 Dirt kids do it sometimes, when it's lots of them crusing through the city on the way to the jumps, but they are unable to chase roadies and fixies Big Grin
  • + 6
flag krashDH85 (Sep 6, 2012 at 7:30)
 I've long been a fan of the un-refined, CNC look for bike components. Hope definitively brings this style to the table, functional and a work of art. That caliper in my opinion looks simply amazing.
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flag Gravityassisted (Sep 7, 2012 at 3:34)
 word up to the rough milled components, true prototyping Smile dont waste time on the final cut, bolt it to the bike and test it Big Grin , been in engineering for years, it kinda grows on you, mirror finish aint everything......
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flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 7, 2012 at 10:54)
 rough finish ain't bad at all on brake master cylinder or caliper...
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flag finnrambo (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:17)
 stoked for the V4! and giant please stop putting your cables on the bottom of the downtube it drives me nuts!
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flag mountainyj (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:32)
 Agreed, you think that would be an industry "No,No" by now on any bike that's going to see more then a glorified dirt road. Maybe the tabs are just there to protect the zip tie from breaking when routed similar to Danny's bikes
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flag Joeypalmer (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:31)
 I'm not a fan of the Giant Glory. That being said I would like to ride it to give it a fair shot. To me that rear triangle looks kind of weak and the cable routing thing DOES DRIVE ME NUTS too. Many top manufacturers are even going internal and they are so far to the opposite of that. When your World Cup mechanics have to make an adjustment to the standard cable routing like that it doesn't look good in my eyes. I recognize that most pit mechanics are doing "extra" things to the setups but that seems to me like it should be thought out correctly straight from the engineering table.
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flag finnrambo (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:53)
 I have a commencal supreme dh v3 which uses internal routing, yes it is easier to route than most internal routing frames but its still annoying af to work on, I'd love to try a glory tho! I've heard people saying its super stiff and compliant.
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flag inked-up-metalhead (Sep 6, 2012 at 17:52)
 you guys do know it kinda protects your downtube? not a massive amount, but certainly better than nothing, and id rather smash my cable outer than dent my frame. danny hart on the other hand, hes got a new frame built up for if he kills that one, all that matters for him is not having a mechanical, which is where moving them out the way comes in
  • + 1
flag Joeypalmer (Sep 6, 2012 at 19:09)
 @inked-up-metalhead ... hmm I never looked at it that way. Fair point
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flag finnrambo (Sep 6, 2012 at 20:20)
 not too fun tho if it smashes your brake cable... its sketchy af riding in steep dusty terrain with only a front brake
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flag inked-up-metalhead (Sep 7, 2012 at 4:01)
 true, but id rather have to end the days riding sooner in such circumstance than have a dent in a rather expensive frame
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flag Linc (Sep 5, 2012 at 20:58)
 No comments yet on the prospect of an integrated DH cassette? Being able to sensibly run a 32t chainring means bike companies can further lower BB heights without compromising on ground clearance. Plus in limiting sprockets, perhaps finally the other big manufacturers will get their head around the fact that 11 gears is a step backwards for DH, and maybe just maybe, the holy grail, a small, light, 6 speed DH specific derallieur might emerge.

The Hope DH cassette will be a game changer for the sport in ways that think many people don't fully grasp yet.
  • + 7
flag Chamakazi (Sep 5, 2012 at 21:57)
 Agreed! Imagine a system with a 32t chainring and bashguard, and a chainguide with sliders instead of jockey wheels. And have a 150mm rear hub with a 6 speed 25-9 integrated cassette, allowing for wider spoke flange spacing and a stronger wheel. Hope's got the ability to make this, hopefully they realise that it's what most downhillers really want. Less is more!
  • + 3
flag Linc (Sep 5, 2012 at 22:24)
 I hadn't even considered the potential wide spoke flange hub benefits - let's 'Hope' (see what I did there?) some of the manufacturers are reading this... otherwise, Chamakazi, feel like starting a components company?
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flag finnrambo (Sep 5, 2012 at 23:27)
 issue with lowering bb is more about pedal strikes then bashguard hits... it annoys the hell out of me when im trying to go as fast as possible and start pedaling and have my crank arm get hung on a rock
  • + 6
flag Linc (Sep 6, 2012 at 0:51)
 I'd rather DH bikes progressed in a direction that maximised their performance on difficult technical terrain, despite the impact on pedalling, than hold back progression for the sake of accomodating tracks like Leogang...
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flag bigburd (Sep 6, 2012 at 1:55)
 BB's can't possibly get lower , pedal strikes are already a pain in the arse !

I know the benefits of a low BB , my scalp is very low and I appreciate the cornering , but it's pretty much the oppossite of what most off road vehilces have , ground clearance is normally high on the agenda and we are going the opposite way , surely we have already reached the optimal limit of BB hights ?( or lows more to the point )
  • + 1
flag c1olin (Sep 11, 2012 at 8:39)
 I've seen somebody run a six-speed cassette on a DT Swiss single-speed freeride hub, I think it was - that's got your wide flanges
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flag iamamodel (Sep 5, 2012 at 20:35)
 I love how Hope make parts that make that hub you already own compatible with a 'standard' that wasn't out when the hub was originally made. On a custom wheelset I choose Hope.
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flag cyfa89 (Sep 22, 2012 at 8:35)
 On a custom wheelset i choose goldtec. Hope are ace though.
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flag Jester1826 (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:14)
 That giant glory is amazing, and the fact that they have intergrated our fallen squaddies names on there for the "Help for Heros" program makes it all that bit more special!! Giant has gone way up in my books!

Its good to see big companys like this in the sport I, and many others love doing, something to help a cause that matters!!!
  • + 1
flag iamamodel (Sep 5, 2012 at 20:40)
 It is great I agree, but I would have put the names on the top tube out of harms way. I wouldn't want to see those names bashed around by the chain, or covered up by a chainstay protector.
  • + 6
flag rcooper (Sep 5, 2012 at 20:51)
 The reign sx looks sick
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flag Jester1826 (Sep 5, 2012 at 21:29)
 They are positioned abit Per curiously, I do agree higher up the frame would have been better but at least they got them on there!! You don't see any other manufacturer doing anything like this do u?
So like I say... It's hats off to giant for giving a sh*t!
  • + 2
flag stolennick (Sep 6, 2012 at 1:51)
 The Totem on the Giant does look a bit more like a domainRC
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flag bigburd (Sep 6, 2012 at 1:57)
 Hopefully they will helli tape over the names it would be so wrong if they did get worn off , and chances are they will in typical muddy UK race scenarios.
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flag dingus (Sep 6, 2012 at 4:37)
 I don't think the bike is being used for any more races though. (Unless they're auctioning it, but it doesn't mention that in the article.)

As for saying "You don't see any other manufacturer doing anything like this do u?", there are other companies that also do good stuff aswell as Giant. Secialized do their Sam Hill breast cancer bike auctions to raise money for charity, Kona have their Africabike charity which donates bikes to healthcare workers and others who help their communities in Africa.
  • + 1
flag samtomkins (Sep 6, 2012 at 8:14)
 the glory looks awesome but i really cant see the appeal of rockshox making forks with black stantions they just look ugly
  • + 3
flag Jester1826 (Sep 6, 2012 at 16:13)
 That's all well and good and I am glad that I now know this! So thanks for clearing that up for me.
But you need to sort out what's Close to home, before you can sort out the rest of the world!?

This probably means abit more to me though as I am an ex-serving soldier myself with 2 tours under my belt, and I did lose a couple of my friends and had a couple of them go onto the help for Heros program! So like I say just brings it abit close to home for me.
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flag inked-up-metalhead (Sep 6, 2012 at 17:54)
 @stolennick you might wanna read the caption underneath that pic
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flag stolennick (Sep 19, 2012 at 1:15)
 it said totem. they might have changed it Wink
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flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 6, 2012 at 0:28)
 Super pumped for Hope! If they will start doing 3D printing it will be OZOM! Those pedals - Y U do no concave on zem pedalzzz... I'll buy them anyways! The pins looks smartest of what I've seen so far. I buy the Chainguide as well!

E-Thirteen seems to pick up some good wind as well, sweet stuff, cranks are drool-triggers. Anybody knows where E13 manufactures their stuff?
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flag PigeonLips (Sep 6, 2012 at 12:34)
 Its good to see that not only is hope bringing new products to the table, but new ideas too. Smile
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flag Ploutre (Sep 5, 2012 at 23:12)
 Does anyone know when the V4 will be available for customers? And are they really more powerfull than the V2 Evo ? Because I like the "15%" increase, but a % is useless without a base to compare from Smile is it compared to the actual M4 Evo ? M4 Race Evo ? V2 Tech Evo ?

Smile
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flag oldschool43 (Sep 6, 2012 at 8:54)
 The 15% refers to the new Tech EVO lever setup, not the Race lever. I believe the Race lever is a direct push setup. They took the old Tech lever and changed the pivot. There is a triangled piece of aluminum between the lever and master cylinder. I'm running a M4 front/X2 rear setup on 2 bikes. Have 2 sets, the standard Tech and EVO's. Never had an issue with power, but the new EVO levers add just a touch more feel/power and modulate nicely. Think the V2's have more power than my setup. Can't imagine more power. Maybe they'll be speced on KTM's motorcycles next year LOL
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flag andywardle (Sep 6, 2012 at 9:10)
 the 15% increase is across all brakes, so from the M4 to the M4 evo as its the lever that makes is better, not the caliper.
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flag Ploutre (Sep 7, 2012 at 0:44)
 Yes I know the 15% increase between regular Techs and Tech Evo levers. Yet in the article, they mention a 15% increase in power, but is it from the Tech M4 Evo to the Tech V4 Evo ? Race M4 Evo to the Tech V4 Evo ?

Yet these vented Saw rotors are cool. I saw them at the Megavalanche, wondered what they was but the Hope guy was pretty busy and decided not to bother him with that Smile
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flag cloverleaf Plus (Sep 7, 2012 at 2:57)
 The Tech Evo lever is where the 15% figure comes from. The M4 continues as the AM/light DH brake while the V4 replaces the V2 and gives improved modulation, better heat control thanks to larger pads (longer and shallower) and slightly increased power, although no figures as to what that increase is.
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flag Ploutre (Sep 7, 2012 at 3:38)
 Cool thanks Smile

Now need to know what that increase from V2 to V4 is, see if it's worth it. Cheers.
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flag Ploutre (Sep 7, 2012 at 4:50)
 Apparently, power is very roughly the same between the V2 Evo and the V4 Evo, so for me, it won't jutify the buy... too bad Frown
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flag Intenseone (Sep 5, 2012 at 21:28)
 Why are bikes always displayed with out pedals? Its like a Hot Rod built for SEMA and everyone forgets to put on the chrome bumpers. (it just looks like its missing something)
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flag thenotoriousmic (Sep 6, 2012 at 4:58)
 Aiden Crocker Did you just make that up? There the most reliable products you can buy and as for there customer service. Nobody even comes close. If your looking for shit brakes may I suggest avid?
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flag oldschool43 (Sep 6, 2012 at 9:09)
 Agree. I have a set of Tech's and a set of Tech EVO's. No issues at all. Tons of power you can modulate without pumping up or fading. Lever feel is amazing. The Tech's have 3 years and 250 year round rides on them!! Pro 2 hubs. Pro 2 Evo hubs. Headset. These are the most reliable parts. And if something fails, you can rebuild it!!!
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flag timmybobwatt (Sep 6, 2012 at 17:12)
 "Updates have been made elsewhere to include titanium nitride coated angular contact bearings..." Well they sound pretty f*cking badass, I have no idea what they are, but they sound badass.
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flag OswestSte (Sep 6, 2012 at 12:35)
 WOW love Hopes latest offering of brakes. Theres nothing wrong with my Tech M4 ( they are powerful and flawless in operation, look good too ) but it doesn't stop me wanting these Tech Evo V4,s.
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flag kovaldesign (Sep 5, 2012 at 13:26)
 Some sweet pieces of kit! Interesting to see the Hope expanding its product range.
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flag mountainyj (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:34)
 Seven cog with a 9T DH setup for the hope hub, supposedly just around the corner...sign me up.
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flag e-moto (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:33)
 Yeah thats what Im talkin about
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flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 6, 2012 at 0:53)
 I'd love 11-38, 9sp integrated FH body/ cassette.
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flag Nygaard (Sep 5, 2012 at 23:33)
 What the hell are KTM doing?

How do they manage to build the best MX bikes in the world and improve on them each season...
And at the same time build something as mediocre as the Aphex and just make it a little worse each year?

Throw away that pre-2010 frame and start over. I KNOW that they have the potential to create one hell of a DH bike if they REALLY want to!
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flag inked-up-metalhead (Sep 6, 2012 at 17:57)
 KTM motorbikes and KTM MTBs are different companies now
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flag clyons85 (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:59)
 Yyeeeaaa.... Ive got old CODA chain rings in my shop, 48 tooth, CNC machined out of one billet piece of aluminum with the bash guard. Not new....just saying
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flag cyfa89 (Sep 22, 2012 at 8:38)
 Getting pretty rare now. Too old for a lot of pinkbikers to even know what coda is though.
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flag pe6u (Sep 6, 2012 at 3:21)
 I just pray hope make the sram XXI compatible freehub for older Pro II too, not just EVO, or at least make some kind of adapter.
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flag cloverleaf Plus (Sep 6, 2012 at 4:05)
 The only difference between the hubs in terms of compatibility is the axle as far as I've been led to believe, so if you have an older Pro2 then there's nothing to stop you swapping the axle and running the cassette.
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flag pe6u (Sep 6, 2012 at 7:01)
 I did some research and you are almost right. Not only the axle, I should change the bearings and end caps, but yes, it is possible, thanks.
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flag Joeypalmer (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:34)
 I really wish this article didn't make me want to get rid of my Hope V-tech M4's in favor of these new V4's ! I guess this happens every September though...
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flag psychomd (Sep 5, 2012 at 20:17)
 That KTM Bark and Ratchet series are the mutts nutts... I would give up my carbons for one of those..
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flag ectreeskier11 (Sep 6, 2012 at 14:33)
 seriously? that thing is f*cking hideous.
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flag OTehNoes (Sep 9, 2012 at 6:19)
 I think it looks awesome!
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flag Forest-Gnome (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:39)
 Those e*thirteen bottom bracket with bearing preload... gosh no ! I'm not sure about this, I think it'll need too frequent checking/adjustment to be effective.. that's just a thought though...
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flag Bashment (Sep 6, 2012 at 2:29)
 wow hope brakes looks from a terminator movie
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flag EasyKillah (Sep 7, 2012 at 16:11)
 Those Giants are looking pretty damn hot this year, can't wait to see the rest of them
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flag Havoc11 (Sep 6, 2012 at 14:06)
 KTM bikes are looking sick. Really want one
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flag shredds (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:07)
 Those are some beautiful bikes.
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flag aubbietrekrules (Sep 6, 2012 at 0:56)
 Hope is Dope!
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flag dirtjump09 (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:23)
 Hope caliper lookin sick, prob pricy as hell tho
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flag redeyeksc (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:23)
 Love the headset press looks an awful lot like my chris king hub service tool though... just sayin.
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flag nissmo127 (Sep 5, 2012 at 20:40)
 redeyeksc (2 hours ago)
Love the headset press looks an awful lot like my chris king hub service tool though... just sayin.

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I have one of those CK Hub service...I mean headset presses in my tool box. Funny I have never pressed a headset with it but it works great on hub services.
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flag HandleOfScience (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:26)
 Hope V4 H R Giger Edition?
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flag dabomb6724 (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:09)
 love the look of the chrome glory
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flag bighiggy (Sep 6, 2012 at 13:55)
 help for heroes look after all serving personnel not just soldiers.
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flag HITNRUN Plus (Sep 6, 2012 at 12:51)
 what is KTM thinking???
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flag ectreeskier11 (Sep 6, 2012 at 14:33)
 right? those things are HIDEOUS.
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flag mcarswell (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:54)
 nice stuff i want a moveo suit ,try that bad boy out.sickDrool
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flag tombom1998 (Sep 6, 2012 at 17:11)
 Those TRS+ cranks look a competitor towards SAINT cranks!
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flag alessandrorr (Sep 29, 2012 at 5:19)
 Eurobike it´s a dream!!!!!
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flag alessandrorr (Sep 29, 2012 at 5:22)
 And in my country all politicians are thieves and corrupt. Buy any product from USA or Europe costs 3x to 4x more in my country. I'm so sad to see so many good products out of my reach!
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flag essc831 (Sep 10, 2012 at 13:46)
 i want that blue bash guard
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flag voltagerider Plus (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:47)
 That Glory is WOW
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flag awais Plus (Sep 5, 2012 at 18:48)
 the pictures look sick! down with the pedals for sure!
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flag baca262 (Sep 6, 2012 at 7:01)
 V4 up front, V2 on the rear Drool
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flag taletotell (Sep 6, 2012 at 6:50)
 lets get a look at those hope cranks!
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flag upson-05 (Sep 5, 2012 at 15:50)
 The picture with the Christ king stuff is wrong you put the Ktm bike instead of the bb tool
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flag upson-05 (Sep 5, 2012 at 15:51)
 Well it shows the Ktm bike on my I pad until I click it then it goes to the right photo. Weird??
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flag nitzsche (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:28)
 ohh nice! Is this what is called bike porn? XD
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flag mattypants (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:29)
 YES!!!! That raw glory is one of the sexiest bike I've ever seen. FO SHO Smile
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flag kfitz (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:20)
 all those machined parts are sexy! giggity.
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flag martinuk (Sep 5, 2012 at 16:37)
 DAMN BIKE JEWELRY Eek
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flag PenedrosBikes (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:09)
 oh amazing, did you saw the binoculos, binoculars?
lol Eek
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flag richierocket (Sep 6, 2012 at 4:43)
 Never should have gotten married, I WANT, WANT, WANT too many toys...
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flag oldschool43 (Sep 6, 2012 at 9:17)
 HAHAHAHA......so true......
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flag machinist---allan (Sep 5, 2012 at 20:08)
 That's a Chris King hub service tool, not a headset press.
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flag finnrambo (Sep 5, 2012 at 19:55)
 not a single below threshold thread... thats a surprise for once
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flag renzofaraone1 (Sep 6, 2012 at 14:11)
 wooww nice bikes!! Smile
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flag MrAnderson6 (Sep 5, 2012 at 21:29)
 Hart's 'Help for Heroes' reign sx is almost as nice as mine
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flag timmybobwatt (Sep 7, 2012 at 5:11)
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