Friday Randoms - Eurobike 2012

Aug 30, 2012 at 14:55
by Alasdair MacLennan  

Orange Bikes



The Orange 322 has been a work in progress for a year or so now. Always a favourite with privateers for their simplicity, they’ve been experimenting with varying designs for years as part of their Strange offshoot, their R&D department. Moving away from earlier linkage driven styles to keep their famed simplicity, the 322 features a far more progressive spring curve which helps the bike to sit higher in the travel and keep better small bump sensitivity. Although tweaks have taken place as a result of feedback from their World Cup riders, the spring curve and head angle of 63 degrees remains unchanged. Take note of the zip-tie guides now running on both sides of the swingarm for gear and brake cables to save riders running them through the swingarm (a bugbear with racers on the old frame), and the much lower pivot position, which takes it more in line with that of the successful Five.

Also new to the 2013 product line is the 29” wheeled Gyro with 110mm travel which sits loosely upon a Five chassis. This was originally released earlier this year in the Black & Gold spec to a limited run of fifty bikes. Now it’s a full production bike and sits in the range with three levels; S, Pro & SE. The bike shown here may look polished but is actually a new powdercoat finish called Sterling Silver and looks mighty impressive.

Beyond the Gyro is the purple Strange prototype, as yet un-named. How does a 140mm 29” trail bike with a Five-matching, 66 degree head angle sound? Also in the works is a 650B model, of which only two are currently in existence, and one of which will shortly be seen underneath Joe Barnes for Enduro racing.




Sun Ringle



Sun Ringle’s Pro SL wheelset is now available in 26”, 650B and 29”. It features bladed spokes and a rim that uses the patented NoTubes bead standard for increased reliability when running tubeless. This is the same design implemented by NoTubes in their own rims and allows riders to run less pressure with lower rolling resistance and an increased resistance to burping. Sun were keen to point out that when buying their wheelset a rider gets everything they may need in the box; a full suite of adaptors to fit all forks, tubeless rim strips and plenty of sealant.




Manitou


Manitou’s Dorado DH fork (right) has been around for a while but the current version has seen incremental tweaks and refinements over the past couple of years: 180-203mm on the 26” fork and 175mm on the 29”. We think the all black colour scheme looks pretty sick, but what do Pinkbike readers think? This 650B Marvel (left) was also on display with 80mm/100mm/120mm travel and TPC damping.




Answer


Answer’s ProTaper aluminium bars are the same as previous years, but now are available with custom graphics. It’s a wrap that’s laid over the bar before being dipped in the acid bath for anodising. This means that rather than a painted finish it’s a lot more scratch resistant. The second bar we’re pretty excited about - a 780mm uni-directional carbon downhill item which comes in at 220g and surpasses their already highly regarded aluminium bar in fatigue testing.




K-Edge


K-Edge are a small US based company putting out some cool products which are beautifully finished and aim to solve small problems. The two products which caught our eye the most on their stand were mounts for both Garmin and Go-Pro. Any rider who has used a Garmin for a reasonable period of time will have at some point had to run back up the trail to fetch it, especially after a little wear sets in. This intricately machined mount feels far sharper and sturdier. The same goes for the Go-Pro mount which replaces the standard bar mount and provides a far stronger solution to the OEM unit which can occasionally snap. A side effect is that footage is noticeably more stable with shake virtually eliminated thanks to the increased stiffness from the aluminium component.




Specialized

Specialized’s Carbon Demo has seen plenty of coverage but everyone loves Carbon, and these bikes just looked too good not to show…


…especially this TLD incarnation.

Carbon is of course the buzzword but there were also some new aluminium versions on display too. To reduce the cost and increase the differential between carbon and aluminium they’ve swapped out the link (shown on the blue & white frame above) for an aluminium unit while the carbon retains it in magnesium.




Five Ten

Eurobike 2012
Yesterday we showed you several of the Five Ten flat shoes, today we have the Cyclone SPD boot. It’s a high top shoe based loosely on the Hellcat (the plain black version of the Minnaar signature). Stealth rubber as expected is mated to solid ankle support thanks to a high Velcro cuff. Our expectations is that this will hold your heel in place better than on the standard Hellcat where there can be a tendency for your heel to creep on the upstroke if you’re using it for all mountain riding.




Azonic Components

Azonic return as a hardware specific brand while O Neal focus entirely on software. A new range is in the works but for now we have a taster of their range. Here is their World Force bar.
29 26 amp 24 wheels alongside the full range of 15mm and 30mm bars.

Azonic were a force to be reckoned with many years ago and the argument could certainly be made that they kick started the trend for short stems and wide bars with their Shorty stem and DoubleWide bars. O’Neal and Azonic have been part of the same family for a while and 2013 sees a clear division between them with O’Neal dealing exclusively with software and Azonic solely hardware. These are their existing components but a lot of time and effort is going into developing a whole new line up which we’ll be keeping everyone up to date on over the coming year.
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112 Comments

  • + 60
 Orange have finally done it, that's one good looking downhill bike...
  • + 2
 yea, looks awesome ay!
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 ^^^ yuck hell no!!
  • + 13
 It looks fantastic, but I don't like the idea of the gap in the downtube- the shock and mounting hardware will get caked with mud on the sloppy trails.
  • + 2
 Just put some sellotape over the hole...
  • + 10
 i daresay some company will offer a little guard for it, or if not a piece of old tube would work fine to cover it
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 Also love the fact that orange are staying with the classic aluminium..... Instead of more carbon... Smile cool write up Big Grin
  • + 3
 orange now looks very similar to the lapiarre and in my opinion is looking very handsome
  • + 10
 what's wrong with carbon?
  • - 1
 That Orange is amazing, steeeep head angle too. "Classic aluminum", Lewis that cracked me up.
  • + 5
 The front wheel is going to flick mud strait up on that pivot point..
  • + 6
 @Karpiel 63 deg. is steeeep now? FFFFUUUUUUU
  • - 2
 I thought so. Is there a company that makes one more steep?
  • + 2
 If I had the money that demo frame would become very patriotic!! Looks so sick!
  • + 6
 that specialized is a work of ART
  • + 7
 A) Lapiarres look like Oranges. Cause Orange has been around since the dawn of time.

B) 63deg head angle....steep??? Maybe for a Schwin Stingray...
  • - 6
 Orange bikes look exactly like they did in the early 2000's. Boring style.
  • + 5
 @Karpiel073 I don't think you understand basic geometry
  • + 3
 Just that it's nice that orange have shown that a bike doesent have to be carbon (expensive) to be nice Smile although carbon bikes are sick looking too!! Smile
  • + 4
 idk about yall but when i ride it doesnt matter where the pivots are mud gets in them and OMG!!! nothing happens. heaven forbid i have to pull out a water hose. quit your bitchin
  • + 1
 In the first photo...isn't that Richard Carter, the owner of Morewood? Single pivots forever! WooHoo!
  • + 4
 Anyone else notice about the Go-Pro mounts review?
"A side effect is that footage is far more stable with shake virtually eliminated..."

Aren't side effects usually a bad thing? Made me laugh. Nice looking machined mounts though.
  • + 2
 The interrupted down tube on the Orange isn't a problem, you can put some kind of fender on there to keep gunk out I'm sure. But on the Lapierre, with a similar DT design, the shock mount happens in the middle of two bent or hydroformed sections. My experience with bending or forming tubes is that your tolerances go to sh*t in the bending, plus or minus a degree sometimes. Which if you are trying to mate up a shock mounting plate means more weld to fill in the gaps. At least with the Orange the sections are straight...although that angle on the bottom is weird...

Just means lots more machining and attention to detail, which translates to more expensive bikes.
  • + 1
 It's been a long time since i've actually paid attention to any frame geometry so I don't know what angles everyone wants nowadays.
  • + 4
 karpiel, I think you mean slack, world cup dh bikes are usually 63-65, can get steeper or slacker with the angleset
  • + 5
 Sh!t finn you're right! I meant slack...that's embarrassing.
  • + 1
 Orange is simple but awesome
  • + 3
 bring on the neg props but in my opinion the one piece rear suspension linkage is vary bad/low end looking.
  • + 3
 also one of the first orange bikes i've seen that's actually orange
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  • + 27
 Those new Demos are dream machines. Because as soon as you wake up you'll realize that that's all it will be. Except for some lucky buggers. And rich buggers. *sigh
  • + 2
 those demo's are really match with Troy Lee Design stuff's ... i need a bank
  • + 9
 ....or rob a bank.....hmmmmmm
  • + 3
 I guess I'll have to live with my 2012 model for now, never thought I'd actually be jealous of somebody's bike Frown
  • + 1
 Shop guys will be running stuff like that
  • + 3
 Troy Lee is a king, there is no doubt in my mind....

BUT

Those TLD painted frames, c'mon Troy, you can do A LOT better than that.... The only difference on the Demo is some yellow/green tied in with black/grey....

You wouldn't be getting my extra dollars for that no thanks
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  • + 20
 OMG!!! Eek Those Dorado's.... Easily the sexiest DH forks I have ever seen! Drool
  • + 2
 be sick if they put monster green instead of white on them... as an option tho
  • + 3
 They would look great on the black and white Demo.
  • + 1
 the tld one would good with a green dorado to
  • + 1
 Imagine those on the orange 322!! Mmmmmmm........... Imagine!!
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  • + 10
 Manitou seems to have been really keeping things on the down low. They must really believe that the secret to success it to keep their secrets, because I can't figure out how they're staying in the game. Their products def ain't bad, but they don't seem to make much effort to increase their appeal.
  • + 1
 I have been riding these 2012 dorados for some months now, and I realy love them!! once you get them set up right they are unbelievable!
  • + 1
 They look pretty sick and I'd try a set anyday! But I don't understand how on could achieve decent rigidity without the ''bridge'' that links both legs right above the tire on standard forks... Anyone knowledgeable care to explain?
  • + 1
 I cant realy explain, but they say its becouse of the axle, its hexagone on each side where it goes intoo the legs. Its not as rigid as the normal forks, but its prety rigid! I dont feel any flex on it.
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  • + 7
 That 322 is one amazing looking machine, as is the Five. What I don't get is how Orange bike are famous for their 'simplicity' and yet the price tag is inaccessible by 90% of people 40. I'm sure a LITTLE leeway can be given on the price. I was quoted 1300 for a Five frame alone. I hate that I have to look elsewhere for a sub-standard component/frame purely because it is so far out of reach. The Five is perfectly suited for the terrain in the UK, but unfortunately none of the young shredders can afford them!

Orange are without doubt an amazing company, offering second-to-none customer service and bettered-by-none hand-built frame, but for the price of the 332, you can get yourself a V10 Carbon Fibre...

Now excuse me while I spend half an hour doing the same as the guy in the first picture.
  • + 4
 Its that handbuilt in the UK frame that you are paying for (in theory). I'd take the V-10 personally.
  • + 2
 Well for £2,399.99. worth of frame, I'd expect them to hand-build a plate over that shock basement! If I'm going to have to rob a bank to buy one, I'd rather not have to keep going back to fund replacement shock bushings or a whole unit that's been machine-gunned by mud/gravel. I can see the logic of it, it's necessary to allow any crap from the top to 'drain out' but surely a plate with a gap at the bottom would have achieved the same? Meh, still unbelievably awesome.
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  • + 3
 Its amazing, aside from a few tweaks to the fork guards graphics, and switching the tubes from carbon to aluminium the Dorado has been pretty much exactly the same since it was re-released in 2009, and it STILL out performs anything else on the market 10 fold, i guess if it aint broke don't fix it.
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  • + 6
 Fuck the paint on the Tld is ugly... Too many contrasting colors for it to look nice
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  • + 6
 the new demo are absoloutly insane looking!
  • + 7
 Anybody else having mixed feelings about the TLD paint?
  • + 1
 i think it looks pretty sick but the 2012 is way nicer
  • + 2
 For me it's just those Yellow fire/mud accents that are a huge turnoff. I wish I had the chance to design a frame, it would look sweet!
  • + 1
 The yellow flames will be covered up by the stanchions and the crankset. Not thought out well.

The black and white one is a far better looking bike in my opinion. Actually, they all are, but the B&W one I like most.
  • + 1
 i wish trek would do c2 for mtb
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  • + 5
 straight from 1996 eurobike....orange 322!! Razz

no hating guys,i love that rig!
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  • + 2
 If you were going to display at Eurobike wouldn't you make sure your information cards were edited?

"A PRORIETARY patented design feature which incorporates an INNVER curve that is the SAMES size and shape..."

Stans: NoTubes and NoSpellCheck.
  • + 1
 thank you! someone with sense!
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  • + 5
 i'd sell my mother for any of those parts...
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  • + 2
 The 322 looked great in Prototype form with minimal Graphics on it. If I got one id be taking those stickers right off!
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  • + 2
 the dorados are awesome and im really wanting a new 2013+ model but please bring back the colours! =[
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  • + 3
 Nice to see the 322 kitted out with Hope, represent the UK hell yeah!
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  • + 1
 orange looks sick but would love to see a dual-link come out of those boys, i have nothin but respect for their fabrication abilities
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  • + 3
 Friday Randoms on PB?! - somebody message Dirt Mag now!!!
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  • + 1
 Love to ride ! Going for a monster ride tomorrow to celebrate my love for bikes ! Peace
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  • - 1
 When are companies going to stop making single pivot suspension bikes. Orange to kona there all the same crap. If your axle and main pivot share the same bar there a single pivot suspension.
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  • + 1
 That Azonic picture looks like it could be from 2009. Aren't they tired of bringing the same old crap year after year...
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  • + 2
 that dorado........oh boy
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  • + 2
 the TLD spez is so badass
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  • + 2
 orange´s bikes looks very strong
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  • + 2
 Such a good post! Orange 322 and S works demo are so good looking.
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  • + 1
 I honestly don't think that there's anything here that isn't a new, awesome looking product. Props, PB!
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  • + 1
 Could almost wear those Five Tens about town. Slick Smile
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  • + 1
 love that machining on the Orange's brake caliper.. Nom!!! brand?
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 Hope, of course! Smile
  • + 1
 hahaha @ of course Razz thanks though!
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  • + 1
 the new TLD demo looks way better than the fugly old one
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  • + 1
 oh god. oh GOD! OH GOD!!!! so much want, not enough time!!!
  • + 4
 plenty of time, not enough ca$h... Frown
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  • + 1
 Ive had my 322 for almost 2 weeks now and love it to bits.
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  • + 1
 go pro! these mounts rock! take note!
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  • + 1
 man that 322 is sweet , always been a fan of the single piviot designs
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  • + 1
 Orange and specialzed are looking so sick
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  • + 1
 oohh yeahh the 5 ten are so incredible!! and the Go Pro devices!! yeahh
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  • + 1
 Really want to swap my 224 to a 322, they look insain!!
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  • + 1
 Oh wow! Those Dorados look exactly.. the same as last years...
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  • + 1
 I'm digging the new Dorado.
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  • + 1
 Troy lee demo frame im going to cry
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  • + 1
 I am thinking Demo+ Dorado would be killer. Smile
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  • + 1
 I would do BAD things for that Orange to be mine.
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  • + 1
 Nice to see azonic back in the game
  • + 1
 for sure, love my Outlaws, truly are bomb proof and the pawls on the freehub are identical to Easton's at half the price and more reliable. was thinking of switching to 650B but wasn't keen 'cause I wanted Outlaws and Conti's, now they both on the wagon, woohoo
  • + 1
 just need to bring back the DS1 and my life will be complete Smile
  • + 1
 Yea where have they been. They used to be the best kit but now left behind
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  • + 0
 That TLD Demo is so sexy Salute
  • + 4
 Specialized are putting the best paint jobs on their bikes in the whole industry. Not just the DH stuff but everything from XC to road.
  • + 3
 That green and black demo is truly a masterpiece.
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