Red Bull Rampage 2012 - Final Results. The winner is... by karl-burkat

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stefkears (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:04)

congrats to kurt but the judging was certainly questionable. Cams first run was insane and he only got 7th place??!! I do wonder if I was watching something different.....

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swan3609 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:05)

I agree 100%.. Kurt did have a dope run but the Mccaul bros got robbed..

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bottomley (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:06)

great event absolutely ruined by bollocks judging

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GabrielDugas (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:07)

agree. i think sorge run is the winning run, Big jumps, variety of tricks, technical and stuff. But for the other competitors, it was all messed up.

+ 89

Je3Re3My (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:07)

I didn't know doing sh*tloads of crack and being blind as a bat was one of the criteria for being a judge...

+ 52

JLastra (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

Football Sunday? Nope Rampage Sunday!

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jono21 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

kyle norbraten was robbed , two 360 drops one was opposite and he got tenth. judges sucked this year.
what happened to brendan fairclough?

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MaxBerkowitz (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

Norby got robbed!
How was he not top 5?
And great job sorge and antoine!

+ 35

darrenh (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:11)

yeah, agreed. How did Cam only get 7th place after that first run?

Oh, and, well done Bizet!

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norcovpsshore (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

Norbz got robbed, Mccaul could have placed higher as well. Judging wasnt the best. But at the end of the day THE RIGHT RIDER WON. Kurts run had technicality, speed and big tricks. Noone else linked up as many stomped tricks as he did. congrats Kurt!

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clarky78 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

Yeah, it' fair to say both McCauls got robbed big time on there runs.

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adove Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

Congrats to all the competitors for surviving! Yeah... dunno about the judging. Some riders have amazing, clean runs and got so shafted! Norbraten throwing threes like they're nothing and getting 65!? Pffft!

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gruver (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

Completely agree, after his forst run I was just like WTF just went down. Kurts run was great, but I wasn't taken back like I was with Cam's, that gap was insane!

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olaffons (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

I don't think that Tyler McCaul got robbed,but Cam for sure... Same thing with Andreu... I'd also give Bizet some more points,cause in my opinion his run was way better than Bingellis,but anyway,he got well deserved 2nd place,so no problem. Cheers

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adoknjas (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

what about norbs? 3 drop to oppo 3 drop to the quarter pipe??? i shit myself when he did that, and then only to get bumped down my some straight airs?

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thewelshmtbstig (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:15)

ok sorry must have been on the moon but what happened to Atherton??

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RampageRules (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:15)

NORBZ

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The-Medic (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:17) (Below Threshold) show comment

Cam And Norby should have been one two (and I can't really say what order cause they both blew me away)... Sorry, but while Sorge's run was great, it wasn't near the "complete performance" that Cam or Kyle threw down, certainly good for 3rd, but not the win IMO... Even Tyer McCaul was more impressive then Bingelli or Bizette... Bizette being in the top 3 is just a joke to me...

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roast-dinner-pinner (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:19)

Freeride.... you would think the guy that does the biggest jump and one of the dirtiest lines would get better than 6th spot

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z05m (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:22)

Cam did get robbed from his first run but he took it like the ambassador he is. In my mind Cam did not only win this one but he once again showed true sportsmanship that he is.

Cam = Class act.

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JoseMPM (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:23)

Judges were absolute shit today, Cedric Gracia was absolutely right. Sorge is the deserving winner, but Cam Mcaul should've scored way higher, and so should've Andreu on the first run (bummer 2nd...). I also think Martin Söderström got robbed. Sure he landed the 3 very rough, but he held on to it and the rest of the line was fluid and stylish as f*ck. But anyway, bummer that so many riders either crashed like Claw and Semenuk with their banger lines or the brit contingent.

jono and thewelsh: Both Brendan and Gee injuried themselves before finals, same as Zink. Gee's the biggest bummer because he first thought on friday he was out, then tried and his ankle was holding up great and then he ate shit big time again on saturday and couldn't ride again, that time for good. But yeah, too bad we didn't get to see them, was so looking forward to all of their lines.

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kanioni (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:26)

Btw. both of the Norbraten's 360's were to the same direction, still awesome tho! I have no clue where the commentators got that oppo from

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austinmc (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:33)

I guess this is what the NFL replacement refs are doing on Sunday now. Wink

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scott-townes (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:39)

And what about saying Will is sponsored by Karpiel? I hope they know that his bike and everything on it is at least 3-4 years old and possibly older than that... haha. CONGRATS WILL!!! You deserved a higher score than what you got.

The judging was def. questionable but screw it, who cares. What went down was insane and will continue to further this sport (two 3s in one run!?) regardless of what the judges think.

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DAOPB9 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:40) (Below Threshold) show comment

You sir, die^^

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scott-townes (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:40)

lawl, saw that you edited it. timed that one pretty well, haha.

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DAOPB9 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:41) (Below Threshold) show comment

Austinmc, not you scott

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mishanya (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:43)

Tyler and Can - robbed !!! must be 4 ,5 place not not below maybe 2 and 3
Kurt nice Smile

but Kyle Norb also robbed .... 2 - 360 with rather big drops

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mishanya (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:43)

Cam*

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samminett (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:51)

is there gonna be a replay of rampage.....

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Protour (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:55) (Below Threshold) show comment

You guys are the biggest whiner's on the planet, "waa, waaa, my guy got robbed" I can't believe nobody is acknowledging the awesome riding we saw today!

Regardless of who placed where, it was another spectacular Rampage. Bingelli impressed me the most, but Sorge killed it too.

So many Trek riders, but they all placed poorly. Does Trek really belong in freeride, seems like an odd match? Think about it, this is the same brand that won 7 tdf's....oooops, no they didn't! Anyways, I know they have lots of money, but it's better spent on racing....who wants to take a Trek to the local dirt jumps?

Awesome Rampage coverage this year Pinkbike!

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will-oddy1 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:55)

soderstroms 2nd run was good!, the judges were harsh on him, he should of easily beaten semenuk the maple leaf

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mxlemming (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:55)

Two 360s.... did you guys all miss 4 BACKFLIPS?
First and second places spot on, well deserved. After that, maybe a bit questionable.

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PPhun (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:04)

kanioni you're right, both were to the same direction! but yeah, he still got robbed... that run was awesome.

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Hermit185 (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:04)

is there a replay anywhere out there?

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scott-townes (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:08)

Not sure if he deserved first because everything was just unreal crazy but personally I think you guys are underestimating how big that backie was... here's a shot I snapped of it... www.pinkbike.com/photo/8759224

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swan3609 (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:11)

Scott- I dont disagree with Sorge.. he deserved that.. He flat out threw down.. It was some of the others that were in question.. Protour- Your a tool.. They did win 7 FTD no matter what the USDA or UCI want to say.. and They have some of the best riders on the planet. I personally dont like their bikes, but I know they would stand up to what ever I could throw at them..

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jaydubmah (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:22)

Congrats to Sorge! He was definitely the silent killer for this comp, and flew under the radar leading up to Rampage. Pretty sure not many folks predicted him on the top step, even though he's done super well here before.

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Schy (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:32) (Below Threshold) show comment

I am the happiest person right now, just got back an hour or so ago, after having watched Rampage in person today and talking to Semenuk and Söderström and getting pictures. Definitely an amazing experience. And anyway, the Judging was spot on in my opinion.

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adidasss (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:34)

Judges should go ang f***ed themselves. They ruined whole show for which I was waiting sa long... Thank you & kiss my ass...

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ashfanman (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:37)

A Rampage judge, earlier: munkeyplustypewriter.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/monkey-covers-eyes.jpg

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Rider-of-many-bikes (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:46)

This judging is really making me go on a rampage....

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scott-townes (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:49)

Sorry, replaced the last photo, here's a more improved shot of the backie that clinched him the win. It was absurd. www.pinkbike.com/photo/8759438

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merlinmarlee (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:54)

There shouldnt be any judging,it should be just sit back and watch what they can do

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Protour (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:08) (Below Threshold) show comment

Swan, you want to support a cheater and a perennial lyer, fine. But that means you would also be ok with Trek paying off the judges at next years Rampage so they could get better results, right? A cheater is a cheater and you don't mind aligning yourself with them. I see how you are...

Trek has made some questionable decisions starting with their first full suspension design and continuing when they dumped Greg Lemond and his brand cause he exposed Lance for being the biggest cheater in the sport. Now Lance is going to lose all his titles and Lemond will be the only American Tour de France winner. Looks like Lemond will get the last laugh! Massive fail Trek, just like your results at this years Rampage!

What a stupid name for a mountain bike: Trek! Ok name for a touring bike though, a bike you would ride slowly throughout the countryside, enjoying the scenery. A good name for a bike you would ride to Utah to watch the Rampage, but not for a bike you would ride that knarly stuff on. Seriously is there a more stupid brand name in the mtb world? Ergon, maybe?

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derpdownthehill (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:10)

The judging was shit.

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david719 (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:21)

just a thought about the judging for an event of this scale, I've never personally been there, but it looks big from the pictures so I couldn't imagine judging riders from what I assume is quite a distance. so, wouldn't it be easier if they watched the event on a screen much like what was on the live feed for audiences?

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kochjg (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:33)

The judting was crap. Sorry. Sorge deserves the win, but I can't fathom WTF they were thinking for many other riders. The application of the four categories seemed completely inconsistent. And as many people said, are you f$cking kidding me with Cam McCaul? What a joke. He stomps the biggest gap on the mountain that no other rider dared to hit but Zink, who almost killed himself on it, pinned a steezy, flowing and FAST run linking big lines, and he ends up in 7th? That's absurd. Judges, in my book you did a bad job. Even the announcers thought so after Cam's first run. I hope you aren't involved in 2014. Thank God Rampage stands on its own regardless of any rankings as an all time event and this year was just nuts, since it would have otherwise been ruined by your inconsistent judging. And no, I'm not upset my "guy" didn't win - I was rooting for Zink. It just bothers me that the judging was so far off the mark. End rant.

+ 1

Dexta (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:34)

Didn't watch it but keen to see highlights. Who were the judges anyway??

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scott-townes (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:34)

David- that's exactly what the judges do, haha. They watch the event on personal screens that show the whole run... in the finals at least.

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Cship15 (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:35)

Rampage=insane, Judging= downright dissapointing , Wil white=boss

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crengelman (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:09)

@protour i dont agree with your comments on treks being bad freeride bikes and my only proof is that just this year trek bike riders have won 6 gold 3 silver and 2 bronze and the overall world title in the FMB world tour. they must be doing something right for those guys

on another note this rampage was amazing to watch although there was some questionable judging i believe the right guy won in the end sorge's line was amazing.

+ 1

denverdh666 (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:10)

nice to see the entire mountain bike community come together. even if it is because of a complete failure from the judges for pretty much the biggest event in mountain biking! ha

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samminett (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:43)

by the seems of no replys to my comment i take it there isnt a replay

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Protour (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:44) (Below Threshold) show comment

Crengleman, I never dados they were bad bikes. Any company can make a good bike of they put enough money into it, sure took Trek a long time though. I just said it was a stupid name for a MTB company . Without Gwin they would still be the "dork nerd" bike company. Actually they still sorta are, Gwin's not cool, hes just fast, but shy as pie, and not alot of personality. I still like him though, even though hes all religious and stuff. Total respect 4 him actually.

I'm watching it again now to critically analyze the judging from a technical standpoint, whiner clones. I'll report back later, after a few beers....

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redcorn (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:46)

you do that Protour, you do that.

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Milko3D (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:11)

Funny, people are raging against Rampage judges here and my comment was deleted because I said I like forests Big Grin

Censorship...Pinkbike, you should kill it!

Congrats to all the competitors, some freaking awesome runs!

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scott-townes (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:13)

Funny how there's a conspiracy of Trek when Sorge rides for Giant and most (if not all) of the judges have no connections with Trek whatsoever.... more proof that protour is a "troll" and everyone believing him should just shut up and ignore him... that's what he's hoping for is responses. Way to play into that BS guys, haha.

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swan3609 (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:27)

^ I had typed up a huge rebuttal to his comment and then was like "nope not worth it". ha

+ 5

Maarrk (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:27)

How has Protour not beem punched yet?

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swan3609 (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:39)

Because he is one of those people that would say all kinds of nasty stuff and then when you knocked him on his ass, he would sue you..

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knightridersix04 (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:13)

looks like Sorge got his redemption for the game of B.I.K.E. at the Kamloops Bike Ranch haha

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Hermit185 (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:17)

@samminett i was in the same boat, found this: Replay for all!!!!!!!! live.redbull.tv/events/114/red-bull-rampage

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fantaman (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:53)

I was dissapointed why the judges giving Cam McCaul such a low score for two absolutly sick runs + as the only rider in the finals hitting the canyon gap,Lacondeguy should also given a higher score because his run was awesome.

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freeride-forever (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:03)

I missed the event, but I can't wait to see it now. It's not the first time C-Mac's been robbed by retarded people. He lost the Race Face UFC to Matt Hunter just 'cuz Hunter was from BC. WTF's Hunter now? Rampage is his kind of riding, where is he? He's got the spons to get him there. Even Bourdo & Kinrade get out to the Rampages. Hunter's not a competitor, he's a big budget video showboater. McCaul had the better video by far & he lost the popularity contest. Now it's like everyone loves the guy with good reason & he still gets shit on. WTF?

The whole excuse that it's hard to put together a score on the fly in a timely manner is bullshit. The judges responsibility is just to watch what the rider does & assign a fair score. The riders job is not die. There's a big f*cking difference & I'd be surprised if any of the judges noticed Norbraten switched a 3.

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jpeteh (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:20)

I feel the same totally. BS

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paulclarke (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:31)

HERMIT and others were wondering about a replay. You can watch anytime again at :

live.redbull.tv/events/114/red-bull-rampage

Smile

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Protour (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:52) (Below Threshold) show comment

Swan, it's a good thing you chickened out on posting your rebuttal, prob cause you know it would have been picked apart piece by piece and intellectually dismantled and destroyed. The event was spectacular, but the judging was spotty and inconsistent. Sorge had an awesome line and deserved to win, but shouldn't have had a score of the charts like that 86, and both McCauls 1st runs should have been much higher, they should have been up there. Guevich's drop into the Oakley sender was my favorite stunt.

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wilkey (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:16) (Below Threshold) show comment

tyler and cam didnt get robbed. they did good be i think they got the score they deserved, i was there...... with the guy holding the "big ass stunt" sign standing on coarse and the judges are pretty damn good my only change would be biset in 1st. his run was way cooler more original and i felt a little riskier minus his back flip off of the drop into the lower section

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iggys Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:49)

What kind of person robs Howey that brutally?

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ibeaver (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:16)

if this rampage is streamed live via the internet.... then Rebbull could incorporate "crowd" voting.... internet is two way last time I used it.

then we will know who the real winner is!!

I was sleeping till now, but I'm going to watch it at work today :-)

(this internet voting works unless, that is, jeb bush is involved then maybe there is a voting conspiracy hahhaha).

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Protour (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:21) (Below Threshold) show comment

Wilkey, when I saw your sign at first I thought it said "who wants to see an ASS STUNT, cause the big was a little misplaced.

I agree, the judging wasn't as bad as all these rampage hating clones think, the event is evolving, just like DH racing is. The judges want to see fast, exciting, high paced lines, not runs where the guy spends a bunch of time pedaling along a traverse, or almost comes to a stop before he drops into a tech line. That's why Sorge won, he chose the best line and pulled off his tricks.

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kulten (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:29)

Agreed. And in my humble opinion current Red Bull competition reminds me slope style too much. Cam was absolutelly underestimated, thats the shame.

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davehayz93 (Oct 8, 2012 at 1:30)

Protour = Prodick!

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samminett (Oct 8, 2012 at 3:12)

thanks @Hermit185 and @paulclarke you two are life savers! chur

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bikounet (Oct 8, 2012 at 4:33)

@JLastra no! no! no! Football AND Rampage sunday... please! (Neg props)

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Icculus19425 (Oct 8, 2012 at 7:13)

It felt like it was just a contest to see who could throw the most backfilps. I def think Sorge won, hands down, but cam should have been up there too.

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Lolo-the-frenchie (Oct 8, 2012 at 7:36)

Thank u Protour to coment that much, permise me to neg props you several times for saying such shame things on Trek company. This company is puting some money on events, and sponsors lots of good riders McCaul, Semenuk, Gwin, Rheeder,... and some road riders too. Permise this guys to live by just riding and entertaining us. Saying this is just a way to kill the sport, so just shut up man

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adoknjas (Oct 8, 2012 at 12:40)

protour is fucking hilarious

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DAOPB9 (Oct 8, 2012 at 12:46)

Don't forget about Kyle Norbraten being robbed! Seriously, two 3's on down sloping drops, probably harder than backflips too most riders. Argue all you want, he is a sick rider and probably got undervoted because he doesn't do big comps. -- Same as Wil White.

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cGonzalez (Oct 8, 2012 at 15:28)

protour= internet warrior, stop talking shit behind a computer screen.

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finnrambo (Oct 8, 2012 at 17:41)

i wonder if protour is serious and actually believes hes right, if he legit does he should probs work at redalp

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derpdownthehill (Oct 9, 2012 at 6:57)

@Protour....

www.quickmeme.com/meme/3r9mc6

I made this just for you...

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thewelshmtbstig (Oct 9, 2012 at 13:13)

great Protours on the rage Frown

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MarkleMedia (Oct 9, 2012 at 18:21)

@Protour, many trek guys did place poorly at rampage, but semenuk rides trek and he won the over all fmb. And ur question about who would take a trek to a dirt jump park..... um.... me. Yes they do have a really great DH Team But the Slope Style/free ride team is prettttyyyy stacked as well

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finnrambo (Oct 9, 2012 at 19:37)

cam mcaul, brandon semenuk, aaron gwin and for the roadies fabian cancellara, jens voight and the schleck bros, they got it tied up on just about every front!

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freeride-forever (Oct 9, 2012 at 21:09)

Protard, Cam Zink won Rampage on a Hyper so GFY with all the Trek shit. I've always thought the same thing that they're not really a "Cool" company but who besides you gives a flyin' f*ck?!!!! If they built a bike I liked I'd be glad to ride one.

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freeride-forever (Oct 9, 2012 at 21:13)

Oh & TY Hermit for the link. I've been having trouble finding a replay. Thought PB would have one up.

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MarkleMedia (Oct 10, 2012 at 7:11)

freeride-forever, When Zink Won rampage back in 2010 he rode a Evil.....

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JoseMPM (Oct 10, 2012 at 7:30)

Nope, he won it on a Corsair Dominion prototype: www.vitalmtb.com/videos/features/Cam-Zinks-Prototype-Corsair-Dominion,4031/sspomer,2

And about judging, many got robbed, but most robbed was Norbraten, even Zink himself said it. And he did indeed do an oppo 3, on his second run one was regular and one oppo. And the judges were way too hard on Martin Söderström, manhandling that hard landing on the 3 and riding away (not a stylish ride away, but he didn't fall of the bike, he kept it rolling).

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kanioni (Oct 10, 2012 at 12:39)

There was no oppo 3 in Norbraten's last run, I'm pretty much 100% sure about that (I took a close look at the replay of the run after the commentators called the other 3 an oppo). Just 2 amazingly dialled regular 3's.

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GabrielDugas (Oct 10, 2012 at 21:44)

*note to myself. Never comment on rampage results if your are in the first. It will polute your Dash board for many days.

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JoseMPM (Oct 11, 2012 at 8:17)

Kanioni, check again the second run, we may al be mistaken, but I think it really was oppo.

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kanioni (Oct 11, 2012 at 13:55)

checked again, no oppo.

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wilkey (Oct 12, 2012 at 8:35)

@kulten you obviously havent really seen the rampage. because it is nothing like slopestyle!
@Protour Were your there? did you make the trek out?!! yeah an ass stunt woulda been interesting to.

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shredds (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:20)

Was Protour one of the judges?

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PPhun (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:36)

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redcorn (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:44)

Not an actual Judge, just the little dude with horns and a pitch fork standing on the Judges shoulders.

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Enduro27 Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:59)

hahahaha!

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Protour (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:19) (Below Threshold) show comment

If I was a judge I would really take control and make some positive changes:

1. There needs to be a big stunt of the day award in addition to a winner. Gulevich would have had my vote for the drop into Oakley sender.

2. Not as many spectators , photographers on course and keep them in confined spaces like cattle. Bearclaw would agree.

3. The last 60 yards or so of boring trail would be filled with a fast wooden rollercoaster with doubles. Not a big fan of wood but put something there and make it even longer.

4. Make this event double points on the fmb tour. Have another event on the tour mid season with similar terrain to give the big mtn guys another chance to show their skills.

5. Give top 20 World Cup DH automatic chance to qualify.

6. Have a seperate girls competition, even if there are only 2 or 3 who wanted to do it

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Conor-Smith (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:36)

Protour every one of those ideas except the first are terrible. Go home.

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Protour (Oct 8, 2012 at 8:54) (Below Threshold) show comment

And turns out that ideas is already in place. They will listen to my other ideas, you'll see. The event will evolve.

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freeride-forever (Oct 8, 2012 at 13:15) (Below Threshold) show comment

Do they not have a best trick at Rampage? They have them everywhere else. Sorry Protard, that's not such a revolutionary idea. Claw might agree with your 2nd idea (even though he thinks you're a dumb f*cktard too) but I'm pretty sure he'd shit all over the 3rd one. I like the big booters & the built stuff, but that's really not what Rampage is. Even building something like Semenuk's line goes way outside the rooted concepts of Rampage, which is supposed to be like a freeski contest, not a freebuild contest. There is a big difference between dirt & snow though, & bikes & skis, so it is what it is & it's a great thing, without your dumb ideas Protard. It's evident that you've got a big hard on for racing (doesn't surprise me) & you said yourself no one wants to see "runs where the guy spends a bunch of time pedaling along a traverse", so why the top 20 WC racers but no one else? If a lot of them wanted to be at Rampage, then they would be. Rampage has become a very scary place in the last 10 years. I'm sure that if your 20 heros came to Rampage, more than half would never come back. It's not their thing, you're a dumbass.

Maybe I'm wrong but in relation to your statement about pedaling down hills, why would you hold a girls contest if no girls have expressed any interest? Get real, you don't see girls in slopes, or FMX, you won't see many, if any volunteers here. The only girls contest anyone is gonna wanna watch at Rampage might be a little mud wrestle in the red Utah dirt. You really, really are a tard aren't you? If girls have shown interest then yeah it should be in just to be fair, but have any?

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scott-townes (Oct 8, 2012 at 13:16)

Protour

1. Its called the best trick. Cam won it.
2. Yeah well I guess its a good thing they had staff with knowledge of everyone's lines and made sure they were kept clear for the riders... and spectators were still confined into certain areas.
3. Last I heard you were out of your mind crazy about the 5 wooden features they had this year... so you want more wood?
4. Yeah make an INVITATIONAL event worth more in a series in which not all riders are invited to.
5. Doubling the amount of people in qualifying would extend the contest time by another day, a day that they cannot afford to do.
6. ^ again, events aren't free to put on and this one is the most expensive to hold so even though you're purposely saying stuff to get people worked up, I also think that you truly have no clue and are that stupid in some aspects.

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bakenbikin (Oct 8, 2012 at 22:09)

Seems like Protour is really starting to enjoy being the pinkbike antagonist. You have done a good job of turning your rambling nonsensical tirades into something people expect from every PB article. If you're going to be an ass, ya might as well be a smart ass..

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Protour....

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Just for you...

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larock Plus (Oct 8, 2012 at 0:36)

FMB, I have a few questions I'm interested to hear your take on. I understand judging is a difficult thing, but I thought one of the main objectives of the FMB was to establish a consistent standard for judging events, so why is it that Rampage is the only event that you can crash both runs and post a solid score (or any score for that matter)? I don't envy your job and while I agree with your podium selections I think beyond that the scoring was atrocious. I'm just a little confused why people are allowed to crash in this event and still post any score while this is not the practise in any other event? Where's the consistency you promised you'd bring to these competitions? It's seems a little strange that a well executed run with speed, style, amplitude and tricks right to the bottom, would score lower than a run where the rider was fully ejected off the bike both runs. Anyways, I think given the number of people here who are questioning your judgement, it'd be awesome to hear a breakdown of your conclusions. And don't get me started on the prize purse...

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 5:28)

Well... playing the devils' advocate here, there are plenty of sports that allow a "fall" and still award points.
I think where we want this to have been different is that IF you fall you are not awarded so MANY points, and NOT at that ratio!
Is that fair?

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larock Plus (Oct 8, 2012 at 8:33)

I just don't see why Rampage should be different than other events if it's part of the same series? From the get go FMB told us that their mission was to make judging fair and consistent, but where's the consistency? Every event is judged one way and this event is judged entirely differently? So maybe Rampage is so different that it needs a different judging structure altogether? Ok, I'll entertain that idea for a minute. Well then it shouldn't be part of the FMB. But they'd never let it go at this point regardless of what's best for the riders and the contests. Also, why should FMB ranking decide who gets into Rampage? Sam Pilgrim, who ranked high in the FMB wanted nothing to do with Rampage but got a spot in it and bitched about it all week. Why not get riders into the event who want to be there? We'd see a much better competition. Somehow the FMB doesn't seem to be looking out for the best interests of the competition but rather themselves. If they did, we wouldn't see so many unprepared and bitter dirt jumpers forced into going just because they placed well in a lot of dirt jump events. If Rampage is such a different ball game that it needs different judging then it needs a different system for getting into it as well. Scrap the riders that don't want to be there. There are plenty of guys that are begging to be in each year. There are only a couple of big mountain events each year, so why clutter the field with dirt jumpers that would prefer not to have to do those events just because they need the points. With a limited amount of spots at each event, you're taking the opportunity to compete away from real big mountain riders. You're not making it fair and consistent for riders, you're putting cricket players into a baseball tournament. Give your head a shake if you think that's good for the sport.

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 9:11)

That's the whole point of another of my post elsewhere in this comments section...
This that post:
"...Let this be a standalone, and the season ends with a Platinum stop that happens every year.
That way guys like the SS-centered riders with single crowns won't be TOTALLY outgunned, and core big mtn. guys like Hopkins and his fellows have a place just for this type of riding..."

Let this be separate, since it only happens every two years, and let the FRWS (that runs each calendar year) be ended with a Platinum stop, EVERY year.
Let THIS event be big-mountain like it was meant to be!

AND guys like Norbraten and Doerfling won't be underjudged and forced to compete with trick-centric riders for this event's title....

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freeride-forever (Oct 8, 2012 at 13:39)

Well put larock. I wouldn't want to see Rampage excluded from the FMB Tour just because it's not a slopestyle. I do agree that riders that don't wanna be there shouldn't be & riders that do should be. It's sad to see that the buttf*cks organizing things still don't get it. They have their ideas about what they wanna see & sculpt the rider lists accordingly. Pilgrim is a perfect example. Everyone knows he could f*cking demolish the event if he wanted to & people have been talking to that tune, so there he is. The problem is that HE DOESN"T WANT TO! It's like he's under duress because a group of know nothings wants to see 3 whips over the canyon & tuck flips off the Oakley drop. I've said this before, anyone that wants to enter a contest should be able to qualify & EVERYONE should have to qualify. I can give plenty of examples of why that should be. One pre-qualified this year apparently broke his back parcticing, while another who had to qualify qualified first & then got robbed in the final. Some riders get the unfair advantage of not having to qualify just because the aforementioned know nothings have their favorites. AS far as the exclusion from FMB, I think a well rounded rider is the best rider. The "Freeride Mountain Bike Tour" should not exclude the truest freeride mountain bike event. The beauty of a mountain bike is its versatility & the riders should have some degree of adaptability. I'm actually disappointed in Pilgrim for that.

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freeride-forever (Oct 8, 2012 at 14:06)

On the other end Bourdo has stated how he just wants to do what he wants to do & he's not gonna do tricks & blah blah blah. Well that's great, but his performance at Rampage was as I predicted it would be. He's past his prime & behind the times. He doesn't have the right "stuff" to warrant sponsorships or automatic contest entries while some highly capable kid is out there killing it in his little shit town & maybe can't afford to get to a single contest. Keep Rampage in, get the shitty has beens out & into the judges seats & everyone has to qualify!!

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TimZim (Oct 8, 2012 at 15:00)

I have a snowboarding analogy for this:

Qualifying for Rampage by riding in FMB slopestyle competitions in mountain biking is a lot like qualifying for the Verbier Extremes by winning the X-Games snowboard slopestyle.

Lots of people get to rise to the level of incompetence.

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 17:44)

STILL think it should stand alone, with NO PREREQUISITES or PREQUALIFICATIONS.
If you want in, ask. If you're that crazy, prove it. If not, go home before you get killed.

I understand the point about a well-round freerider, but there goes some of these guys!
I mean for example (and correct me if I'm wrong) take Doerfling and Hopkins: NOT known for their dirt jumping or pure SS skills, but AMAZING big mountain riders. You don't see them in the FRWS anywhere but here, and that's because this is their specialty. Why punish the SS guys by saying "you have to kill it here to (possibly) win the title" - like this year with Semenuk and Soderstrom - when they have a higher chance of failure and DEATH because of the venue? Good Lord, "Harry" McGarry freakin' hurt his foot TRAVERSING a scouting line, with a damn bottle of water in his hand, and he IS a big mtn. rider! This venue is NOT NORMAL, so if you want it to be:

It needs to happen every year, like the bulk of the rest of the calendar.
Wouldn't make much sense to have an NFL, NHL, or NBA season every year, but only crown a champ or have an all-star game every two... (I know that's a labored analogy, but go with it!)

I don't know if I'm connecting my thoughts correctly, but it is a magnificent event, and I relish the chance to even see pictures of something I once dreamed of doing, much less ever would do.

@Tim Zim - Not a bad analogy... and it's pretty accurate. But then the whole "Are you a well-rounded rider?" question comes back up. I dunno anymore.

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freeride-forever (Oct 9, 2012 at 20:59)

togood2die, no one said anyone has to kill Rampage to win the title, Semenuk didn't kill it & he won the title. If he had a win at Whistler he could've passed on Rampage if he wanted to, or just did it more casually. Semenuk is big mountain capable & so is Soderstrom & Pilgrim. The question is really just a matter of whether or not they wanna be. I think Semenuk does. Rheeder definitely does. No one forced anyone to be there (even if there might be pressure) & also no one did every hit on the tour. Semenuk didn't hit all the European comps. C'mon dude be real. Freeride tour = freeride events. At Bergline some of the guys were saying they didn't really know what to do off the quarter at the end, like it was a fault of the course designer for building it. Pilgrim was killing it with perfect flairs. As good as any I've ever seen in BMX. Not a fault of the course designer(s), FAULT OF THE RIDERS WHO KNOW NOTHING BUT DIRT JUMPS!!! There is more to freeride than DJ, "pro" riders need to be versatile. That's what these comps are all about. A bike with one brake or none & slick tires isn't a mountain bike anyway. If anything belongs on the Freeride MOUNTAIN BIKE Tour it's Rampage.

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freeride-forever (Oct 9, 2012 at 21:06)

Really, 7 neg's on one comment? Too much ugly truth or an actual disagreement?

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scott-townes (Oct 9, 2012 at 22:30)

To be honest, you guys are missing the bigger picture here... the Rampage is an invitational only event which sucks for the rest of the riders that are part of the FMB that aren't invited in the first place and there's no open quali event for it either. In my opinion this should not be considered as part of the FMB tour. The crazy part is that maybe this event is able to now be held every year, or from now on possibly, is because in due part of its association with the FMB tour... so the question is, do we rid of the Rampage off the Tour and if so, how would it affect the future possibilities of the Rampage being held? I have no clue but it would be tight to get some light shed on this.

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ridenflow (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:05)

Mccaul's got hosed on their first runs!!

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joeylongarms (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:22)

Genuinely feel for Cam McCaul after that first run. Dude was so stoked when he was interviewed you could see he thought he had it... Sorge's runs were sick but it was a whole lot closer than those scores suggest

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sssmith Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:04)

Norbs got robbed but Sorge killed it!

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anguswyatt (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:11)

have to agree his 360's were so dialled!!!

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fracasnoxteam (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:04)

BIZET !!!

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EmilMP (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:14)

Amazing comeback after his big crash in the first run. And 4 backflips and a crazy line..!

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Denseanium (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:16)

Bizet totally nailed it...he should have at least gotten 2 more points. Same goes for the McCauls.

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The-Medic (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:20) (Below Threshold) show comment

...shouldn't have been anywhere NEAR the top 3...

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Denseanium (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:21)

Get out troll.

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sissi-chcocho (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:28)

perhaps some cover now for him.. or at least one picture..

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dom69foco (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:45)

His run was the one that really made me smile. Didn't know much about the guy so he was a great surprise

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turtlesauce2000 (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:34)

Bizets run was insane! Gutted for soderstorm though Frown

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jOKE-BIKE (Oct 8, 2012 at 6:08)

I was so happy to see him in the podium! At least , at his course the judges have taked notice of the tricks, he made it 4 times Big Grin

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sprockets (Oct 9, 2012 at 21:36)

I was out at Rampage and was completely blown away with Bizet's performance on his second run (first one made me crap my pants cause I thought he was going to fall over the cliff). The way he launched himself into the beginning of the upper run on his second go was full on attack and I was blown away how he committed himself to such a tiny goat path of a landing....I was up there and it is insane how tight of a piece of trail it is to stick your tire on and how dire the consequences are if you don't.

I was also completely surprised his line for the finals was down the same line that Doerfling came down. Doerfling made a deal with Bourdon to use the line if it worked out for him for a cut of the prize money. Bourdon spent a month out there with his brother chipping away at a bunch of rock to make the line. Bourdon broke his back and couldn't compete and James made a deal with him....very professional given the work that went into it all. It made sense for James to make a deal with Bourdon to use the line if it worked out because he had been working so hard at it.

I was not stoked to see Bizet use the line for a podium when he hadn't contributed (as far as I know...if I'm wrong and Bizet can or Bourdon can correct me on this I'll withdrawal my remarks).

Etiquete in these events is subjective as is the judging but it is known amongst the competitors (and the rest of us out digging) to ask permission to use a line as a courtesy to your fellow competitors).

Again this is all subjective and from what I saw of Bizet at the event he is a super cool guy, has a fun loving attitude. Just pointing out a bit of etiquette that can mean the difference in placing for others.

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EmilMP (Oct 10, 2012 at 4:04)

Read somewhere (probably on Vitalmtb) that Bizet had payed Bourdon for the line...

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sprockets (Oct 10, 2012 at 11:50)

Like I said if I'm wrong I think it is cool that he worked something out. When I ran into Robbie after the event I thanked him for letting James run his line. He didn't mention anything about Bizet, but that doesn't mean something wasn't squared away ahead of time.

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Andrew-Taylor (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:07)

JUDGING SUCKED

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stolennick (Oct 8, 2012 at 0:13)

nothing more to add. bizet, the mccaul brothers and norbraten were underrated. apperently there were too many women on the course. seems like the judges got distracted

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jOKE-BIKE (Oct 8, 2012 at 6:09)

100% agree

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jitenshakun (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:05)

Great job Sorge but the McCaul brothers should have been on the podium - especially Cam. Really great to see no major injuries!

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Steevo3030 (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:38)

there was a lot of confusing judging. Even Schley was like wtf for half the scores.

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zachrosevt (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:15)

As were Minnaar, Bren-dawg and Gwin on the twitterverse

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 5:30)

I'd love to see some pro spectator tweets regarding all that... Especially Brendan's and Gee's... Oh and Zink too!

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obee1 Plus (Oct 8, 2012 at 7:25)

Great job Sorge but the McCaul brothers should have been on the podium - especially Cam. Really great to see no major injuries! this. disappointed for a lot of the riders scores, super stoked for those same riders pulling off such great rides. 1. sorge 2.cam 3.tyler

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sino428 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:14)

Overall I'm kind of disappointed. The guys hit some great lines and did some crazy riding but I was disappointed that we did't really see anything really gnarly. Semenuk's transfer was awesome, Sorge's overall line was sick, but with the injuries to many riders we didn't get to see some of the things that were really hyped going in. I had read something about a Claw frontflip somewhere, McCaul and Zink both looking to pull never before done tricks over the canyon (as it was only McCaul even hit the thing), we didnt get to see Brendan's ridiculous gap etc.

I though the contest ended up great. Our worries about all the wood were all unfounded. But there wasn't anything that really made me say "holy shit" like Zink's 360 last year. There was nothing on that relative level this year.

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thedeathstar (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:42)

The ramp to quarter pipe was the stupidest thing ever. Hitting it should have been a 5 point deduction.

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swan3609 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:49)

It seamed like there were lots of wood features that were only hit once or not even hit at all.. Kinda pointless.

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:54)

EXACTLY.
I think that if Zink had been healthy this would have been a bit of a different competition.
As it was, I'm in agreement that the judging was off, and not in any small way.
Norb was slighted big-time, and for what he did, so was Wil White.
The biggest disappointment was Cam... though if I HAD to find a reason to agree with the judges on his runs, I think he's been publicized in our sport so much that it's possible they were expecting something even crazier from him. I dunno. Is that an unreasonable explanation? Now Tyler... not fair.
Sorge definitely deserved this, and congrats to him, Bizet, and Bingelli. All killer runs!

P.S. The quarter WAS retarded.

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FR33DOMdotCOM (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:21)

Yeah, there wasn´t that one moment that stood out - but many people complained last year that Zink´s run only had the 360 in it and the rest was mediocre. So this year, the judging focused on how all the aspects went together.
In my opinion, Sorge´s run definitely deserved first - speed, gnarly top part, fluidity, blind step down flip ... but the McCauls could´ve placed higher, that´s true ...

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sino428 (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:48)

And yea they should probably take that ramp gap to quarter pipe and burn it in a bonfire tonight. I mean a quarter pipe and no use on a course where guys are riding full on downhill bikes.

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:03)

Leave the Canyon Gap, the Icon and the sender underneath it, and scrap the rest, period.
Let the rest of the lines be natural and / or built by each rider for each line they have invented.
The only reason that quarter should be there is for the smaller bikes to do more with, but none (that I'm thinking of) made it into the finals!

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thedeathstar (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:22)

The sender crossing underneath the oakley drop was equally terrible. More respect to riders who cut their own lines to get where they wanted, and still took bigger drops off cliffs. Did anyone other than Soderstrom even hit it?

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Conor-Smith (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:40)

Scrap the wood entirely. I think Semenuk's and Faircloughs lines proved to us that it is entirely possible to build a huge banger using your own hard work.

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 4:39)

Again, people like the Icon. I (personally) like the Canyon Gap too. If pressed, I'd agree though... if it's all or nothing, let it be nothing!

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sino428 (Oct 8, 2012 at 7:06)

Yea I agree. A few wood features are ok. I don't mind the Oakley sender, and the big canyon gap. They are kind of like signature features at this point. But I think we saw that some of the other stuff, like the massive wood gap and quarter pipe were just a complete waste.

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scott-townes (Oct 9, 2012 at 22:35)

To the OP- go watch this event in person and maybe walk the course the weekend before the event and you'll have a slightly better understanding of how gnarly those lines and hits are... absurd how many of you can judge lines based off a live cast of it without ever seeing any of it in person. Ever hear the expression that the cameras don't do a feature or line justice? Probably not... regardless of the judging, you guys are ridiculous.

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JubaBabaci (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:06)

Epic rampage. The level of riding those guys do is insane.

The level of judging those judges do is insane.... :/

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mountguitars (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:35)

you got that right, LOL!

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kanasasa (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:11)

CG for the judge next time!

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Lolo-the-frenchie (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:31)

Yeah, Past Rampage heroes have to be juges of this event !

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randybadger (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:39)

Bender?

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bhd13 (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:03)

Not to insult a legend of the sport, but...how is Bender qualified to score "control and fluidity" and "tricks and style"?

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:42)

ROFL That's a great point!

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dougies (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:24)

he has eyes and an opinion? just because he's a pure hucker (in your cliche pinkbike view of his riding abilities) doesnt change the fact hes been around more than long enough to have a well educated idea of what control and fluidity is...

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bbk7 (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:36)

bender will just score high for massive jumps and hucks which is what rampage is about. so all good

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muchentuchen (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:21)

AFAIK Bender is a judge this year.

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freeride-forever (Oct 8, 2012 at 14:00)

Bender was a judge? That might explain the abnormally high scores for crashing I'm hearing about. LMFAO!!!. I've always liked Bender, but I think he'd be a better commentator than a judge. I wouldn't put Bourdon in the judges spot either. Wade would be a good judge, Ritchie would be a good judge, when Claw retires he'd probably be one of the best judges. I can't off the top of my head think of anyone else that is retired or getting close that would be decent. Vanderham probably but he's got a lot of years left I think. Honestly as much as I hate to say it because I'm no fan of the guy, Matt Hunter would probably be a good judge, since he's too much of a pansy to compete like he should be rather than just making himself look good in videos thanks to a sponsorship he unfairly won over C-Mac. It doesn't take much to look good in a video, the true measure of a rider comes down to how they perform when "NOW" is the time to perform & not "maybe later". Having said that, I bet Hunter has a pretty good sense of what's what especially for Rampage & he does have enough style on the bike to be able to appreciate it, to spot it & to judge it. That doesn't mean I think you have to be a stylish & controlled rider to be able to differentiate between stylish & controlled riders, I just think it makes sense that it'd be more likely.

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 17:27)

Exactly. That's all extremely true.
I'd say Vanderham, Berrecloth, Schley, Simmons, Bourdon (yes, I'd put him in there), and CG (plus *maybe* Hunter) would be my big picks, TBH.
Once those are retired, of course.

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ed91 (Oct 9, 2012 at 7:28)

Past heroes, eventually those who can't run but are still there, Gee or Brendan, and why not mix the judges result with some kind of public vote ?

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mattnoodle (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

Sorge confirmed himself as my fave rider Props too for Wil White. Looked so old skool but he's only 18!

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groghunter (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:24)

haha, i know right? did you see he was riding a disco volante?

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mattnoodle (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:44) (Below Threshold) show comment

Dude, I'd never heard of Karpiel before tonight. Get this guy a REAL sponsor

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swan3609 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:47)

Wil stepped up.. I was stoked to see him ride as well as he did.. I actually think he should have finished better then he did.. That Superman was awesome..

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:56)

Damned if Karpiel didn't basically start the "hucker" movement, or at least helped start people being willing to ride like that, with all their epic designs back in the day!
Remember the Armageddon?

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mattnoodle (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:06)

Guess they're just one of those brands that never really made it in the UK. Hats off to the history. Didn't mean to disrespect them in anyway. Would be nice to see Wil able to push himself with the help of a big name sponsor though

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:45)

Oh no, that wasn't it... it's just that some don't remember them, even here!
Agreed on the part about White and a better bike co. backing him...
Now which company would fit him?
THAT'S IT.
COVE. Perfect fit!
Or maybe Knolly?

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groghunter (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:58)

yea, they're kinda like Intense, company size-wise, except Intense (and Foes) have the advantage of being the most raced bikes for sponsors that don't make a DH frame. Not that Karpiel make anything that would really be targeted at racing, 12" of rear travel is pretty much about trying to land the Jah Drop a nothing else.

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sparky18 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:09)

Cam's first run was the best and should have won, hands down!!!!!! Terrible judging Frown

Great coverage though, thanks Redbull/pinkbike

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adoknjas (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:18)

how? cams run was sick, but sorge had a way gnarlier line up top, where cam was just ripping on flat... and sorge tricked everything, 2 greasy backflips, a no-hander and then the super extended superman. his run was hands down the best. bizets run was 2nd place material as well, super exposed and raw, with a good mix of flips in there for sure. then you have logan who just shredded hard.. so top 3 make total sense. Yes his cams run was sick, and may have one in 2008, or 2010, but this year compared to everyone elses run, it wasnt anything super crazy..but yea, 7th place was a little low, maybe 4th or 5th.

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bigburd (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:22)

I think cam run deserved 3rd place really , the judging to me was not corresponding with the riding I witnessed.

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BeerGuzlinFool (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:18)

Props to all the riders.. Overall it was a great event. But Cam and Norbi should have been in the top 5. Sores runs where both good but not as good as the judges scored...and wtf. Is with the attitude from Semenuk.

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lozzwebster (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:24)

One word... He was a right MARDY b*st*rd!

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Gruta (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:33)

Spoiled little brat wasn`t he ? I got that feeling at joyride, but now it`s confirmed. Dropped way down on my list, just for the attitude.

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randybadger (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:41)

He was gutted is all who can blame him?
In most sports they say if a competitor doesnt take his helmet of he doesnt want to talk.

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PPhun (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:52)

Yes, I think the same, Cam and Norby got robbed too much, and Semenuk wasn't too likeable with this attitude, he was like a sulky kid or something.. but well deserved win for Sorge, and big respect to all of the riders, they're awesome !!

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:58)

Gutted for what? He smacked on tricks he shouldn't have (don't start the shit, of course I can't do them, be he SHOULD be able to), and to top it all off, with Soderstrom sliding that last 360 of his, he secured the FRWS title!
I mean, yeah you didn't win the Rampage, but you DID just get the overall!

I will agree on the helmet though... He wasn't in the mood right then...

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sino428 (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:32)

I don't think its ever fair to judge a guy based on how attitude or reaction right after a defeat (or poor run) in this case. He was clearly mad about how he performed as he should have been. That would be like a sideline reporter in football going up to the QB on the sideline right after he throws and interception. They clearly don't do that for obvious reasons. Yea Semuenuk could have been a bit more personable there but I'm not going to kill the guy for it.

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:41)

Agreed, except for the media part... NFL players do have to put up with that all the time. But he left his helmet on for a reason, so they could have respected it a bit.

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Steevo3030 (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:51)

I could care less if semenuk had a bad attitude for "the camera", it just shows how much the contest meant to him and how seriously he takes his riding. The guy was devastated.

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mtriquelme (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:51)

lose the rampage was a strong punch for him, his reaction was understandable, he was feel too bad for lose the run

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acdownhill (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:32)

common guys, he is a supposed to be a PROFESSIONAL. Anyone can understand how frustrating and hard it can be to be let down by yourself like that, but man every f*cking time he looses he runs off like a 12 year old girl not getting her way. Did you see anyone else storming off because they lost? no, they all took it like the champs they were because they knew that regardless of their results everyone just respected them for riding that course. Most of the riders were down there cheering on the other riders, and just enjoying the event. He is an incredibly talented rider but It seriously blows my mind that Semenuk gets so much respect for the shitty attitude he has for the sport.

That being said, I really enjoyed everything else about the event, everyone seemed to be having fun with each other more than competing. the judging was pretty questionable regarding the mccauls, but by the same merit i wouldn't have wanted to be in the their shoes, the top 10 runs were all absolutely mental.

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ebehn (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:31)

I don't mind seeing someone choked at the end of a failed run. The reason that he is at the top right now is because he puts so much passion and heart into his riding.

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Conor-Smith (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:43)

acdownhill he is a professional mountainbiker, not a professional interview giver. He obviously really cares and is a true competitor, don't be such a hater.

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Protour (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:53)

Who gives a shit about an interview? Not like any of the riders had anything real interesting to say. You guys take something little and meaningless like that and blow it out of proportion because you have f'd up drama-prone personalities like little teen-age girls. "oh, I can't believe he didn't want to talk, I've lost sooo much respect for him" get a life, Pussies!

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jaame (Oct 8, 2012 at 1:31)

Is that a joke? Who is paying his wages? The fans are. Make an army of fans, reap the rewards. Make everyone think you're a petulant little brat and pay the price. Of course interviews are important. They make a lot of people, including myself, like or dislike riders more than their riding ever could.

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acdownhill (Oct 8, 2012 at 4:31)

Oh god you guys, your such bleeding hearts for Semenuk whenever things don't go his way, you don't think any of those other guys put all their heart and souls into their riding?

it goes well beyond the interview, hell i can understand the fact he doesn't want to talk to the cameras, but its the whole vanishing and not being out there to support his fellow riders and competitors and interact with fans like PROFESSIONALS are supposed to do. The shit attitude was amplified by the fact that he still has lots to be happy about (winning the FMB cup, as ugly as it is) but he acts more butthurt than any rider out there. Did you see cam maccaul storming off and avoiding his fans when he got 7th place on a gnarly run? NO,all smiles from that guy. did you see Claw loose his shit about not putting down even one solid run? NO, How about Cam zinc when they asked him all kinds of dumb questions about his injuries? NO how about Stroderstom when he didn't make the cut for the FMB cup, and he also had two less that satisfying runs? NO beginning to notice a theme here? Its because most professionals realize that part of their job is demonstrating at least an ounce of maturity.

I mean really its no skin off my back if thats how he wants to act, but if he keeps shitting the bed, his personality certainly won't be keeping him any sponsorships. rant over i guess.

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 4:51)

All our favorite riders know the routine. They put a camera in everyone's face, but they didn't interview everyone. Why? Who knows... I didn't mind hearing what they had to say, even though we could have all written the script for the riders' responses because we hear it a lot...
I don't mind the attitude initially, with the helmet on and all that, but it's continuing to be a prat that is less that seemly in my opinion.
Ya'll defend Semenuk over this, but Claw's "tantrum" on Where the Trail Ends was unacceptable? C'mon.

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RatHunter83 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:06)

Cam McCaul got ripped!!!!

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Massini64 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:03)

Anyone who drops off the top of that course should get prize money!

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Rideuse67 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:31)

I totally agree !! Many guys where just happy to finish their run.

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TopperharleyPT1 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:31)

Who were the judges? They just had such a negative impact on the sport, how can those scores be so low? To any veteran it was way underdone, add 1o points to the scores, Imean, they were saying the organisers were worried for rider safety? Then the guys hitting one of a kind stuff get low 70's? Where did they think they had room to score? First timers watching that would have been thinking, oh yeah, whatever.

1.Sorge
2.Norbraten
3.Bizet
4.C.McCaul
5.T.McCaul

Rider judged next time, has to be. Who were the judges! You just took a dirty great shite all over your sport!

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bhd13 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:54)

Josh Bender was one of the judges.

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mxlemming (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:00)

Sorge Bizet Cam Andreu Norbraten

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FaullGuy (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:49)

TopperharleyPT1 you're spot on. RIDER JUDGED ALL THE WAY. Cam got ripped and how do you score a 79 to Bizet who did a backflip on an offcamber gnarly line and finished with 3 more flips? Rampage needs to learn something from big mountain ski and snowboard comps which are mostly rider judged.

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TopperharleyPT1 (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:44)

If this was rider judged you would get a true expression of where the sport is, and should be going. Quote -"the evolution" the judges were de-volving it! Check the expression of every rider, each one laid it on the line, their faces dropped when they saw their score. Even Sorge on his first run. Theres more to life than a score, but i wouldnt blame some riders for thinking if they should even bother next time. If this event is really what Red Bull make it out to be, as the pinnacle of free-riding, which BTW I think the riding clearly showed it is, then this event needs a re-format, ditch that silly quarter, and other features that pigeon hole riders into having to hit certain things, make it a here's your hill, off you go, tell us who ripped hardest come Sunday, we'll film you. That sounds like progression to me. I love how many different opinions of top 5's there are, as this shows, from riders, that we all see the sport in our own way, but Sorge, who ruled, seems unanimous. From T.McCauls flowing all mountain style and Norbys 3's in a flowing run, to Cam's big hitting run. It's all good. Just judge it better next time. Will the judges be forced to explain themselves? I hope so.
Rant over.

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mxlemming (Oct 9, 2012 at 16:20)

Maybe that's a good point... We can't even agree between us internet warriors. Perhaps the judging wasn't so bad after all.

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Tmackstab (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

Will White should have won purely for riding on a clapped out tank after being off of it for 4 months.

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hillatoppa (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:45)

Apparently he will be making his own 'supermarket bike' film following the rampage to score a new ride.

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MattHoffman (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:08)

"Clapped out tank" That's a good one, i might use it sometime if thats cool....

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theedon (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:15)

Maybe Will White should ride the other clapped out tank... Yo momma!!

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winko (Oct 8, 2012 at 0:27)

You have to mind the frame of his karpiel is still lighter than scott gambler Smile

Not equiped with new shinny custom parts made it look like the bike was brought directly from 2003 rampage museum. Still props for the ridding skills, he nailed it!

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hillatoppa (Oct 9, 2012 at 11:15)

Lighter than Scott Gambler, haaha. But seriously, the kid can ride. Somebody hook him up!

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szymon102 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

Judges were unfair. Too much points for e.g. Sorge, too les for Norbraten and several other.

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MingMtnMedia (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

Congrats to Semenuk for being the FMB Champion two year's in a row! and congrats to Sorge on his Rampage run!

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mountaineer1993 (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:22)

i just kept scrolling til i found something about Semenuk Smile

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pedalmetal (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

Congrats to Sorge! Highway robbery for Norbraten .

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olaffons (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

The run from Bizet was muthar fakkin insane... Great to see Sorge taking the top spot! Judging level was really confusing.. Especially when we're talking about Cam McCaul and Andreu...

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bd4e1 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:22)

Wil White rocks! 18 years, 4 months off the downhilling, pretty nice style, old jeans and that heavily used and abused bike Smile

) Top score for epic punkness!

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meagerdude Mod Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:48)

I spoke to Wil; the bike is a 2012 edition. Karpiel is making his bikes in Poland now.

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angrynipples (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:39)

wil fuckin shreds. i've ridden with him various times here in San Diego and the last ride we did he rode down 3,000 feet in 3 miles on super rocky bouldery trails in the rain - WITH ONLY A FUNCTIONING FRONT BRAKE. the kid is a nut. and you all need to check out his parkour. he's definitely going places and one of the chillest kids around. so stoked for you buddy

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jaame (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:39)

He's a nut alright! Have you seen his hair?

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muchentuchen (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:24)

Him an Mcgazza would be the Hair Team.

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Tciva77 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:06)

Congrats to sorge but some riders were underscored

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rossimcfly (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:05)

cameron mccaul should have scored higher

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KCToregon (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

Norbs and Cam should had better scores. Not happy with the judging. Still pumped to see Sorge win!

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BenGLasT (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:11)

As much as i love mountainbiking and as much as I love to see how this sport progresses... THE JUDGING DID NOT AT ALL! Sorge you nailed it top to bottom, congrats for this amazing run! BUT there were really questionable decisions in the top 10 from the judges!

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lassemj Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:36)

1 Sorge
2 Bizet
3 Cam Mccaul
4 Andreu
5 Norbraten
(my top 5)

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Joeypalmer (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:53)

The way I saw it...from the redbull app
1. Sorge
2. Cam McCaul
3. Bizet
4. Bingnelli (good speed and tough upper line)
5. Norbraten
6. Lecondeguy
7. T McCaul
8. Will White
9. Doerfling
10. Vanderham

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WAddict (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:34)

Great event. Props to Bizet for coming in with 2nd after bailing on his first run. I knew he'd be top 3 after watching him. But, I can't help but agree the judges messed up. Maybe they gave too high a score too early on. But Cam was the only one to hit that massive gap - TWICE - and still got scored so low?? Really? Good on Sorge though. Great runs.

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quadlover (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:19)

Actually congrats to everyone who made it down that hill on a bike, that alone is worthy of a medal

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ctd07 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

can anyone say what happened to Fairclough? I started watching late and he never did a second run

I did think Will White and Tyler McCaul had some of the sickest runs but Sorge won because he went big and tricked ALL the way down

It seems sad that if you wanna won the Ramapge you basically have to hit the Oakley sender now, other much more inovative lines got no reward at all

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dirtdm (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

didn't do a 1st run, he put his knee out in quali

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LukeT66 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:11)

injured himself in Qualifying.

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bikeaddict123 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

on his twitter he said he tweaked his knee so couldn't ride

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ctd07 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:14)

ah damn, cheers guys, I was so stoked to see his gnarly gap he built

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clarky78 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:14)

I want to know this too? He is DNS, so maybe crashed in practise or something? Also, I guess Gee didn't feel up to it?

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sino428 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:16)

He didnt do a first run either. He hurt his leg or ankle practicing yesterday I think is what was reported. Same with Gee and Zink.

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Azrun (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:24)

www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Crashes-Bangers-and-Building-at-Red-Bull-Rampage-2012,4402/Slideshow,0/bturman,109 gee didnt compete because of this crash he had yesterday he would have ridden on his ankle untill then slide 32 i think the moving one it was a drop that didnt get enough attention by the media and a crash i hope was on film to show how nuts gee is

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JoseMPM (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:35)

clarky: Gee first f*cked up his ankle on thursday/friday, then tried riding on saturday, he actually could but ate massive shit on a stepdown and that was it for him.

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Flori (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:11)

kyle norbraten and cam mc caul deserve much better judging!

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norcoryde333 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

that music they played during the runs was kinda overkill imo.. but stoked fer sorge! and bizet aswell

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groghunter (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:26)

i agree, but I think they played similar music when i saw it live in 2004 over the PA, so it may be kinda expected now.

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JMT10 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

Judges were horrible, great runs from all the riders this year though. Kurt definitely deserves the win, but others got the shaft.

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domminator (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:09)

All i am saying is both cam and tyler threw down waaaayyyy harder then their scores say.........but stoked for sorge none the less

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oxocube1 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

I would definitely like to see the breakdown of scores from the judges for particular riders and where they failed to gain points. However real good coverage and quality, just super excited for the next one!

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:59)

Yeah! RB did a GREAT job, and no major hiccups with the player! Very nice...

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quadlover (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:18)

This is my favorite contest by far in any sport and I was so disappointed by the judging, I think it should be a rider judged event they are the only ones who actually and know how fing HARD it is to stomp these lines! O and congrats to the top 3 and 2nd place rider out of nowhere! awesome

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Lolo-the-frenchie (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:33)

Not nowhere : from France !

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PearlJamSoCal Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:20)

Thinking about single features IMO Wil White "won" the Oakley sender today with the table in his first run when everyone else was just in death grip survival mode off that thing I thought he hit the quarter better than anyone too.

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highseat (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:21)

Stoked for Sorgeee!!! but agree with the rest of you when it came to the McCauls and Norby, overall great even though. ps I now understand how hockey fans feel after there team loses a playoff game, so many emotions going on

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tlilly (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:17)

I was there and there seemed to be alot of people upset (including myself) for judging. The entire crowd boo'd when Norby's score was announced. Those 3's were unreal..

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clarky78 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:45)

I'm thinking that that Cam doing the massive canyon gap and getting poor scores is going to effect the future use of said gap jump. I mean why risk doing one of the biggest hits, if it's not going to effect your score! But surpised he didn't pull anything more slopestyle, not 360's, did he even do a flip? To think, he built his bike originally with Fox 36's to allow for possibility of tailwhips, it's surprising to see so little slopestyle influence.

Also REALLY surprised to not see Claw doing anything to impressive, missed his first run, but his second run seemed a bit lame, he seemed to miss most of the big stuff doing only 2 drops and crashing on one of those doing a 360.

There was some impressive riding, Cams first run had my super stoked, and Tylers, but wish we'd seen something huge.. Was kinda hoping Lecondeguy was going to flip the Oakley sender, that guys is usually on another planet...

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sino428 (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:55)

I was kind of surprised by Claw too. He said after his first run that he was just hoping to put down a solid score so that he could really go nuts in his second run. But then said since he crashed he'd have to go with a safer run on his second.

Was anyone else surprised by this? I mean I would have thought he'd throw down his best run and try to take the win regardless of what happened on run 1. I mean this man has nothing to prove. What does he accomplish by finishing say top 5? Thats great for some up and coming rider to make a name for themselves but a rider like Claw you would think would be gunning for nothing less than a win.

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leon-forfar (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:56)

hes coming off his second injury this year, i think he would have been stoked to just make it down ok

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sino428 (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:29)

That might explain things a bit. I did not realize he wasnt fully healthy.

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sino428 (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:04)

But also, even if he was coming off injury, he said specifically in his interview after run 1 that he had planned on upping his run had he gotten a solid first run down. He said specifically that since he didnt land run 1 that he'd have to do something "safe". My point was that if he was planning on doing something bigger, why did it matter than he didn't land run 1? I would have thought he would have been gunning for the win regardless.

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Saint12 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:23)

Congrats to Sorge for the sick runs and win. Judges were hating on the McCaul bros.. "But nothing seen in this years Rampage compares to the progressiveness of Cam Zinks 360 of the Oakley sender in 2010".. Still tops anyone this year in my opinion.. Salute

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Eyon (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:14)

The judges can only count to potato

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borec19 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:07)

fu**ing judges

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downhillryan (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:31)

Im stoked for sorge he really deserved it after all the footage of him going big in follow me, trail ends etc and his hard luck on crankworks cnda and europe...... And man Brandon looked so dissapointed in himself, better luck nextime...

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PPhun (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:29)

wtf judges... Cam McCaul, Norbraten and Gulevich should have got more points.. but well deserved win for Sorge !

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fingerbangextreme (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

I thought cam would thrown in a no hander/suicide on the canyon gap like vanderham a few years ago. In terms of progression check out the number of guys who nailed the step down to wall ride. Tyler mccauls runs were breathtaking, I've never seen a run like it. Pure drop offs

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meagerdude Mod Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:47)

Cam's intent was to back flip the gap. Run one there was no need for that risk. Run two, the wind was up; to be honest, I was kinda surprised he hit it--particularly after Zink's horrific crash last night in practice. That was hands down the scariest thing I've ever seen.

Tyler's runs were decent. Judging--I can't say for sure what the standard was that they were using, but I do know that originality and difficulty of line played into Tyler's lower score. Yes, he was fast on the ridge, but not a whole lot of tricks tossed in and not a truly difficult line compared to some of the billy goat moves in between the original start ridges. Had he done a suicide no hander off that big step down at the bottom, likely he'd have moved up to the podium.

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theedon (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:17)

fingerbangextreme. Best name on pinkbike

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redcorn (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:50)

Would have liked to have seen Söderström stick that 3 and take Semenuk out of first for the FMB overall this year. Söderström seems like a chill dude, I hope to down a few beers with him some day.

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Old-Man-Eggy (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

Can't wait for a photo of Cams first run canyon gap....The one where he looks over to the crowd!......gonna be my desktop for sure.

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boiltheocean (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:27)

It's not just this year, every rampage the judges seemingly pull scores out of their back orifice. They clearly award the early runners more because they don't know what level the field is riding at, the last to go are butt raped because the judges are still finding the right balance to scoring.

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satim (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:45)

Norby went early and he still got robbed.

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JNS33 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

CONGRATS SORGE!

Incredible event! Yet, incredibly inconsistent judging.

Anyone know why Fairclough didn't compete?

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bikeaddict123 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

brendog injured his knee so didn't ride, couldn't wait to see his gap too!

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fooby (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

Great event! What was up with Cam's first run only scoring fifth though, should have put him 1st or 2nd IMO.

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ctd07 (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:08)

I actually think for the most part the judging was ok, its hard to say when not being there, they clearly were looking for a slopestyle-esc type run with trick from top to bottom and big airs definately getting ranked higher than technical line choice, not many riders did any tricks or big airs in the new higher section, those who did podiumed!

Biggest travesty of judging imo was Wil White, he hit a similar line to Vanderham and Gully but with far more finesse & tricks, with a crazy drop on his run into the Oakley sender that went unnoticed. Using the silly quarter pipe probly let him down though albeit he rode it better than any other rider.

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Lolo-the-frenchie (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:15)

This Rampage was only about backflips...

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Lolo-the-frenchie (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:16)

But Antoine is still a hero !

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borec19 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:23)

everyone is hero Big Grin

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ralbisurez (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:26)

congrats Sorge! BUT... ANDREU, MCCAUL BROS AND NORBY GOT ROBBED!!

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nadiasamer (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:02)

Great comp, great coverage. Thank you.

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Dirt-Gash (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:13)

The judging was f*cked. The numbers they gave out made no sense at all. How does Kurt do his run score heavy, then Logan does a very similar run and score so much less? That just proved how f*cked the judging was...pretty much same line, same tricks almost in the same spot. I think Giant paid the judges an early visit and they are all the titty bar in Vegas now doing cocaine and romping some hot hookers. Best vocal line of the day... 'Semenuk the best slope style rider in the world...' then eats on a back flip! hahaha. Thought that was funny.

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erik2k10 (Oct 8, 2012 at 12:14)

I said on pinkbike after the last rampage the judging was terrible. And I got negative props! Well I was right then and just proved right again this rampage. I wish the online community would have ripped the judges after the last rampage, then maybe we could have decent judges this year.

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ghbiker (Oct 8, 2012 at 10:08)

I think everyone who is so upset about the judging and only watched the internet footage needs to stay quiet. From what i saw the difficulty of the riders line played big into the scores. the judges were well informed and had the best poissible views, i would not want to be one of them. some of the lines were so difficult they could'nt throw tricks off them and othe riders mad easier line so the could trick off them. all judging is subjective to a point, if you go in expecting someone to blow your mind and they only put down an average run im sure there score is going to be affected by that. I agree some of the riders should have gone up or down a place, but for the most part they are pretty good, as you can tell by all the comments everyone has a different opinion on who should have placed where. Awesome event none the less! Every rider that competed in this event is one of the best.

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oakleymtb (Oct 8, 2012 at 12:00)

Sorge killed it. Semenuk needs to get rid of that helmet though, it's been nothing but bad luck. Judges must of been out of it with the heat, but cam McCaul should of been top 3. Since when did the 60 foot canyon gap become not a big deal? Only guy to hit it too. Seems that to get a decent score you had to hit the Oakley sender.

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clarky78 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:18)

Who were the judges? I know Bender was one, and he hit his hard way too many times so that explains some bad judging, but what of the others?

And what the hell happened to Brendog, cause I wanted to see his epic gap! Seriously, the build up for his gap judge has been all week long, then we don't get to see it!

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clarky78 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:37)

head hard! and gap jump! Jeesh..

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MattErhardt (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:32)

Amazing runs by everyone, but no way was Norby's run not a top four! Those 360's were sick! T-mac and Cam shoulda placed higher too in my opinion!

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c-rod (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

Props to all the guys, major balls just to drop-in on any of those lines. The judges on the other hand not the best. Cam's first run should have one it, they shafted him on it. Good job to all the competitors!

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Ogalosh (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:16)

Sick riding and awesome footage! Shame the judging sucked and most of the riders i wanted to see compete got injured or didn't make the finals. Frown

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eball (Oct 8, 2012 at 6:46)

Props to all the riders for once again pushing the limits of the sports and for a great show, the judging on the other hand was just plain awful, it seems as if you had to hit the Oakley sender to score higher, but then again they are one of the main sponsors of the event + the sender makes for good NBC TV eye candy therefore making me question allot of things about the event and the way it was judged. Both Mcauls were robbed as was Norbz, Semenuk had the best line hands down and in my opinion his transfer drop was way sicker than the man mader Oakley sender. Antoine's run up top was also sick, biggest dissapointment for me was that Zink got hurt as I am sure he would have flip the canyon gap and would have taken this rampage and NBC's rating to another level,..

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Aibek (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

Judging sucked, Bizet should have been first!
Sorge second!.
Cam McCaul third!.

why dose the rampage needs to be an fmb stop?.
the judges need to more like tippie and CG!

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Lolo-the-frenchie (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:27)

Yeah, right for the FMB. Rampage as no place there. And FMB should be renamed SMB (Slopestyle MTB)

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:03)

Hey... honestly that isn't a bad idea...
Let this be a standalone, and the season ends with a Platinum stop that happens every year!
That way guys like the SS-centered riders with single crowns won't be TOTALLY outgunned, and core big mtn. guys like Hopkins and his fellows have a place just for this type of riding.
I'm not being exclusionary or anything like that at all, but Soderstrom is a prime example. Asking advice (because he definitely needed it) between runs, just to try to land a trick and win the overall? That cannot be a fun feeling for him.
"Well shit, this isn't my forte, but I have to come here and take a swing if I want the title!"
I wouldn't like that...

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dvd9 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:09)

great job sore, but the judges were not the best...

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Bricycle82 (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:22)

Rampage is a great concept for freeride shredding in a competition format...today's judging was a bit of a shame but more than anything I'm just super pumped for my next ride! Cam McCaul and Andreu Lacondeguy have to be disappointed. Congrats to Norby on his top ten...he should've been top 5!

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scaliwag (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:25)

I think they should raise everything on FMB to this level so everyone has to get gnarly on big bikes for the whole season. They can do a separate dirt jump world tour for hardtail/slope bikes. There's obviously such a massive difference. I'd love to see what some of these slope guys could do if they actually spent some time trying to throw down on gnarlier terrain. This comp is just head and shoulders above everything else.

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R4ND0M (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:30)

French fries should win .... he had me on that backflip at the top ... and it just got better ... too bad he went easy on the drop and didnt completelly shut their mouth at the end with at least some no hander over gap and some pivotal trick over the quarter.

Cam & Norb got totally robbed. Martin didnt deliver where most was expected from him.

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dirtyknobbies (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:39)

Overall, kudos to all the riders..hell just to ride down that without wrecking is rock star in my opinion! Judging, yeah their scores per rider and what they did, did not make any sense at all. Their scores were all over the place. Riders that did similar lines and stunts had such different scores. Early days of Rampage was all about the sickest lines...then some dude named Berrecloth came out and added fancy stunts. Freeride changed, slopestyle evolved. Now the slope style dedicated riders can't truly handle the Rampage, and the big mountain rippers who take the sickest lines (Berrecloth, Gully, Vanderham) but don't add the right stunts, can't score worth crap. So what Kurt showed was what the Rampage is now. Drop a sick line from the top, do some stunts, hit a wooden ramp, do some more stunts, and you got it. His run was super sick, first and second, he deserved it. I would like to see the wooden stuff go away and see more huge drops like what Semenuk did...now that is RAMPAGE!

Personally My favorite was Hopkins..holy shit! That dude is awesome, hope he is ok!

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chuk2rs (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:58)

Semenuk's drop was best trick for sure.

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mcarswell (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:24)

all i have to say is nice work to all the riders that came out on top or got worked by the hill,great effort guys awesome to watch!!!
as a mtn biker i see how many riders had a bad time in virgin&this is not the norm for FMB events so Salute

props to all the riders..going big or gonging home hurt tup

Rampage is brutal!

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tlilly (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:34)

Sorge deserved the win, Bizet definitely deserved second IMO.. I watched him do his 3rd over my head in person, his run was nuts.. From there it was a clusterf*ck. But Cam's first run should've been higher, and definitely Norby's run was scored FAR too low. Those were the four that really stood out in my opinion.. Although there were about 5 just below that were unreal as well.

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adamlaycock (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:04)

How did Cam only loose .75 points for not doing a backflip?!?

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NWA911 (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:50)

he did do a backflip didn't he ?

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adamlaycock (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:59)

Did he actually do one on his last run?

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enzodropone (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

CAM MCCAUL, RAMPAGE 2012 IS YOUR!!!!

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rainan (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:42)

It was one of the more exiting Rampage ever. Really a great great event. Cong to the riders (amazing moves), cong to Sorge (that backflip was breathtaking), cong to RedBull (the live was perfect, clear images and no connection fails, great!), cong to everyone involved in the event.
From Italy

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Hammerschmidt (Oct 8, 2012 at 0:45)

Amazing event, excellent Web cast. After cam mccaul's first run i kept waiting for the score to come in, wondering was it gonna be a couple points ahead of sorge or way over sorge's, then realized his score was way down in fifth, unbelievable!! I'm glad he didn't go for the double back flip over the canyon gap, wasn't worth the risk with how the first run got judged.

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beshop (Oct 8, 2012 at 1:41)

Personally, i think, that such event like redbull rampage should finish fmb world tour. Why? Because judging there is really questionable and the result doesn't depend on tricks but "line" which cannot be measured on difficulty scale like tricks; i mean 360 tailwhip is much more difficult than 360 from the same kicker and it's obvious.
So Semenuk's result was better than Sorderstrom's by 0.25.. on what basis?

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Cirest (Oct 8, 2012 at 4:16)

sorge deserved it! sick line choice at the top - no hander into the descent - stylish drop - superman - a f***ing step down backflip and the big transfer? c'mon guys this was by far the best run of the whole event!

additionaly many riders had not his line maintainance.

....and Cam McCaul obiously pokered too much with this huge canyon gap, which was huge but also just solid..

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dglobulator (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:51)

.........and the award to the most proffesional reaction to a bum run goes to Bearclaw. Still smiling and probably just glad to be riding after only recently recovering from breaking his back. Awesome! Oh yeah, and Cam should have finished a little higher.

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cp-gang (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:23)

MAAAAD props for kurt and bizet. judges should be riding the course before making decisions. my opinion.

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Bennyy4x (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:04)

The top 3 of the FMB World Tour should have automatically qualified, would of made for a better show.

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treymotleyDH (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:35)

brandon and martin were both in finals, all they were missing were genon? how would have that made a better show?

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Bennyy4x (Oct 8, 2012 at 11:39)

Well Genon was the current leader of the series, a decent result would of seen him win the overall.

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airmiller44 (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:50)

I was there and Bizet clearly won the crowd and had backflips in the craziest shoots. He was robbed. And cam should have had third. An 86 for second run was horse shit.

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drishy (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

i was hoping to see someone throw a trick off the canyon gap... stoked for sorge and bizet. congrats.

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deviz (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:17)

about judges i have no words to say.... I'm confused...
Cam's 1st run was insane!!!! Top 3 at least... Blank Stare

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dlxx (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

Bizet should take it, nobody even tried to do at trick so high and he landed a perfect backflip.

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dennisbarrera (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:14)

Awsome event! Weak ass judging.

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GBSHREDDERS (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:11)

i would have loved to see semenuk do better....

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ryanport (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

Charging!!!

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maz-o (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:19)

Manhandling!!!

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dlxx (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:35)

Desensitized!!!

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ryanport (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:29)

Raw!!!

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muchentuchen (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:28)

Solid!!!

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semaj (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:17)

Semenuk locked up FMB overall, no?

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kubkins (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:23)

first thought after seeing mccauls score was like: "WHAAAAAAAT?!"

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RatHunter83 (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:09)

I think he said the same on camera.

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NCALEnduro (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:11)

Sick event. Insane riding all around. The scoring was really bad.

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baftijari (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:06)

congrets to Kurt,i like and Bizet style..

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Cirest (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:40)

the step down backflip was gnarly! ...well deserved sorgee. and good judging of linechoice and flow!

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DAOPB9 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:45)

Judges can all go buttfuck themselves with a cactus. Kyle Norbraten got ROBBED of podium. Mccauls deserved higher.

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mmakuch (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:14)

Wil white rocking 3 year old parts and mismatched brakes. I think it's time to get this kid some more sponsors!

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Pank (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:26)

Eh, long live mccaul brothers!!! We dont care about results Big Grin

BTW happy birthday to my bro MG!!

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pane (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:34)

yeah, we shouldve drank more and do live commentary on your stream man Smile

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BeerGuzlinFool (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:51)

Are they really going to make us wait another 2 years before they do this again?.. I don't see why the cant do one every year.

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rafamarcos (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

norbs and mccaul got seriously robbed... bizet's run was also insane, deserves the podium, but Cam Mc caul deffo deserved to win this..

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wheel-addict (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

Don't think Cam's run was better than Sorge's, but Cam def deserved better than 7th!

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dhross (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:21)

Sorge had better tricks but McCauls run was better for everything else IN MY OPINION, and it just felt much more like a rampage run to me.

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dhross (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:12)

Terrible judging! Mccauls first run the winner for sure, bigger line, better style and better speed then sorge, sorge had better tricks but McCauls run was the winner.

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doveinn (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:30)

I was looking forward to this for days ! and yes these boys throw it down , but it was no 360 Zink ! To many that I was looking forward to seeing never made it !

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Normandie (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:22)

Sorge deserved the first place. He is an amazing rider and winning Rampage is the crown of his season after Where the Trail Ends Beer

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Lone-Wolf (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:06)

Great event. Happy for Kurt Sorge!!! But this year we haven't seen any big tricks like in 2010 Zink's 360 from Oakley sender...

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bmxshelford (Oct 8, 2012 at 8:07)

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Fooooguete (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:28)

AMAZING event, the bigger one, é puta da loucura mesmo.
proud of euro dudes, surprising!!
congrats everyone envolved, specialy the winner Sorge.
for McCaul, epic!! estocado!!

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deeeight Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:30)

Since no one else has mentioned it... I think this confirms that for this sort of riding, 650B is HERE to stay... after 3rd place at rampage... you watch... every major brand who's still fence sitting will be launching 650B AM or FR/DH bikes by the time of sea otter next spring. A few months ago after the last sea otter, when pinkbike reviewed Norco's new 160mm travel Range 650B bike, folks were whining about the new wheel format not being good for anything DH/FR and that 26ers were staying for that...and yet this weekend we got Logan Bingelli throwing down 360s and backflips and executing huge jumps on 650Bs.

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betsie Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:35)

Great event. Can't believe that was more than 3 hours. I thought the judging was pretty fair for once. They judged on the whole run. Kurt went from the super technical up top, to throwing different trick and amplitude down the bottom he did it fast and fluidly. When there are 4 boxes to tick on a run, you gotta tick all 4 to get a great score. Only on Kurt's 2nd run, did I appreciate how good the run was and how many boxes he ticked. Great to see the rampage return to more of its roots, with the big mountain lines taking the stage over a single trick.

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BeerGuzlinFool (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:43)

There is no doubt that Sorges runs were good but they should not have scored as high as they did. Cam and Norbi should have scored much higher than they did. cam was the only one to hit the large gap and Norbi's360's were dialed.

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betsie Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:38)

That is the great thing about personal opinion. Everyone will differ in their thoughts. Cam did not do enough up top. The commentators were suggesting that was the reason also. Some of the top lines looked insane compared to the goat trail. Bike skills shown were amazing.

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whey-dh (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:10)

Congrats to Sorge! Bizet's run was my personal favourite though. Any idea why Brendan F didn't start?

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 4:53)

Knee.

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lozzwebster (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:22)

TBH, I'm pretty sure id make a hash of the judging... but wait, not quite to that extent haha, the look on Bingelli's face!
:L

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mvonhollen (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:08)

Norbz got robbed! Such a fluid, smooth run, wtf?

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bmar (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:58)

Cam and Tyler had such smooth fast and stylish runs. Would have loved to see them on the podium. Having said that, Kurt's run was sick!

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machuqueiro (Oct 8, 2012 at 0:20)

was very bad to see this live on a internet speed of 30 megas Frown

think the judges where more concentrated on some red bull girl ....

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PimpSlayer3000 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

Yeah how about Gully getting robbed? Those judges are professional thieves.

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titusti (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:05)

its about time SORGEEEE

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MarkleMedia (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:42)

Norby's run was better then 10 place.....

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levintom (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:37)

gratulation Kurt for win but i hope we will get some new judges next year . US and canadian riders get always 10 points more for their home .

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Clarry (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:31)

this is my favorite event in the series :p better luck next time cam, hopefully with an even cooler bike next time and congrats to Kurt :p dope run man !!!

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northernstyle (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:01)

Sorgee killed it but some of the other judging was weak sauce. Norby got robbed!!

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downhilldj127 (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:56)

Cam and Tyler, and more... Royally shafted. Tell Bender and the rest of the judges to stop hitting the pipe...

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louisarmitage (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:42)

i gotta agree the judging could have been better. the riding was awesome though!

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campbell-TOE (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:47)

What an awesome event this year! Everyone was charging! Sorge was most tech and Cams first run was large. Cheers boys

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tonythetiger08 Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:42)

So did Bingelli end up doing this on the khs 650b prototype?

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lilo99 (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:19)

yes

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babymorox (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:28)

Stoked...they were Stans ZTR Flow EX...my first "nice" wheelset, just threw 'em on my bike a month ago.

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islandereh (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:19)

anyone please know where i can watch this. i hate redbulls site, isnt easy to find replays all i get is short video parts thanks

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TheStig04 (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:41)

what the f*ck... im just watching rampage now, and Cam and Tyler's first runs were just stunning. disappointed in the judges majorly

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Yekaterina (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:41)

so bad that semenuk is't in first ten Frown

his start was amazing.
maccoul was great - he's only who jumped kenny's gap.
and of course congratulations to sorge!

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SpaceEel (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:13)

Kinda felt like the judges didn't know what to expect right off the bat and accidently scored sorge so high, cause after his score shit got wack.

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micel (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:12)

maybe judging was questionable, but we've seen the rampage only on our computers............

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carlosamigo (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:42)

I hang my head in shame asI'm probably the only mug who didn't watch the live feed.

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si618 (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:00)

Lift your head and watch the replay...it was too early in Australia after a big weekend, I'm half way through it and gob-smacked at how low Cam McCaul's first run scored...at least now I understand all the hate for the judges, tough job!

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transitionrider19 (Oct 7, 2012 at 23:30)

sooo i was at work and i take it some judging was bad.... lol

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 5:20)

Ehh. Not perfect, if you ask most of us... LOL

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el-nombre (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:14)

Damn, missed most of it. Hoping the countdown thing on the redbull site at the mo is to the start of a rerun.

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jamesk14022 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:16)

What happened Brendan, his line looked class in practice.

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JoseMPM (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:40)

Fucked his knee. Nothing serious but couldn't ride.

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zelovocar (Oct 8, 2012 at 1:17)

The best lines Darren Berecloth. The best style Lacondeguy for me Smile

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RatHunter83 (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:32)

Best word(s) to describe Semenuck after his second run?

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leon-forfar (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:02)

choked

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g0shj0sh10 (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:06)

angry

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DirtyDee (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:01)

Hissy little bitch! But in all seriousness his drop transfer was insane, sorry that he or Bearclaw didn't put a clean run together.

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RatHunter83 (Oct 8, 2012 at 8:47)

I totally agree with he had the besy drop but you still gotta put a smile on your face for the cameras.

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djbrockolly (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:06)

sodostrom needed .26 more points to beat semenuk

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JoseMPM (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:39)

He'd have needed to finish 7th or higher with Semenuk's finish, not just one spot ahead of him.

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Jansef21 (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:09)

Yeah Sorgeeeeeeeee!!!

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robway (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:23)

was somebody crying after his run? just lost all street cred

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lumpys (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:50)

Does any one know of a link to watch the finals.

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shishka (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:35)

The whole point of rampage is pushing big mountain bike lines. Tricks dont score same as dj events. Creative lines win over trickery. When you reach bender status you can be the judge. Nice win for giant!

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craigmx27 (Oct 8, 2012 at 10:06)

Giant For The Win ! shame about judging but some of the lines were awesome. Loved McCauls and Lacondeguy speed

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blankty (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:07)

Congrats Sorge, had a great year!

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tylerthegiant (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:23)

Really no my money was on andreu!!!!! And tyler and cam

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juanzo (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:18)

Not sure why, I couldn't see a single shot. Web didn't work for me Frown

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sagetthegreat (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:48)

The guy interviewing the riders was a complete prick, not to mention annoying as all hell. I hate to say this, but i actually miss Brad Ewan, brought a whole different vibe to the event.

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sagetthegreat (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:51)

Schley did fine, but the other two clowns were pathetic.

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dennis9 (Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44)

brandon semenuk is my favourrite ride for sure, but does any one else thinks hes bein takin thing a little serious lately?

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SHEESHKAH (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:01)

Anyway I can watch this now? I had to work during the live stream which is dumb.

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mad-hartman (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:27)

It sucks for Rheeder, If he'd connected the run it would be a Killer!

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RLoganSx (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:42)

I was at the comp and Norby's 360 to opposite 360 was so Sick!! Congrats Guys now you get a beer...or ten Smile

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duartep (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

I think the top spot was unquestionable. The other two, well, not so much...

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:05)

Top spot, yes... Bizet deserved a podium, from there... that's why we're all bitching. LOL

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JoshJeffrey (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:38)

Was looking forward to Brendog and Gee. Bizet won in my opinion. Four flips, one out of nothing. 1. Bizet 2. C McCaul 3. Sorge

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KeepingitNeil (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:00)

Agreed, Bizet came out of nowhere to throw down that sick second run, loved his line choice and the top section backflip. Cam got robbed, but I respect him even more for his positive attitude towards everything (unlike some of the rider's little hissy fits)..What a guy.

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crash21 (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:15)

fuck ya sorge! better be fuckin' stoked! a big time gold fer him! hell yeah.

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lilo99 (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:19)

judges ruined rampage

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henraldo (Oct 7, 2012 at 19:28)

when is the highlights video being released missed rampage for a mates birthday party Frown

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si618 (Oct 7, 2012 at 22:52)

There's a replay still going. I'm watching it now.

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RLoganSx (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:44)

Actually being there puts it all into perspective!!! The cameras dont do it justice.

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Romkaz (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:33)

Cam Mccaul must be on the podium:-@ !!! Canyon gap was sick!

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SHARK555 Plus (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:12)

Fairclough DNS? WTF is that!

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:04)

Knee.

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SHARK555 Plus (Oct 8, 2012 at 21:50)

ah shit! too bad, that guy has mad style

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cheech222 Plus (Oct 8, 2012 at 0:39)

fuck the judges

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Julwhist (Oct 7, 2012 at 21:31)

how about lacondeguy speed. unreal. and yeah mccaul should have won!

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ripitforlife (Oct 7, 2012 at 20:30)

What does this all mean for FMB world Tour points?

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 5:12)

Semenuk won by 26, if I saw correctly.

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gdr-inc (Oct 8, 2012 at 6:50)

HAHAHAAHA... Pro-tour is back to his usual negative props !!!! Smile

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tibo (Oct 8, 2012 at 14:24)

Ils les a tous BIZET!!!!!!!!Bravo Antoine!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ButtonPusher (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:34)

YEAH SORGE..!!!!!!!!!!!

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ogur (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:08)

gr8 job bizet!!

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sibike (Oct 8, 2012 at 16:26)

sorge would have won with his first run

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SICKBASS (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:42)

Congratulations Sorge! But I am totally disappointed with Rampage!

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Mozai (Oct 8, 2012 at 5:17)

Congratz Sorge. But yeah, judging this year was totaly horrible.

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Lilshredman (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:51)

to bad about semenuk, martin had nice pants

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JoeeeCunningham (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:42)

I bet CG has something to say about the judging

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Kawaa (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:59)

it was epic thanks to all riders

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Tan-O (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:16)

All i can say is: thank you Red Bull!

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cameronumf (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:15)

Bizets run was crazy!

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Broachin (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:20)

I swear, every event they find a way to take podium away from Lacondeguy.

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maxlange (Oct 8, 2012 at 18:08)

Mcaul were robbed!

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pepr61 (Oct 9, 2012 at 20:13)

Why didnt Gee ride?

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chimchims (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:58)

bull shit...I say ...biggnelli had 2nd w/ cam 3rd wtf...the judges are piles ...terrible judging ....sorge won for sure...but bizet peh....just bs

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Spesializzed (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:34)

coool

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CheryBomb (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:13)

Judges must be experienced freeride/downhill riders to judge such events

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EricThiessen (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:15)

bender was a judge....

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:07)

Ok, Bender is a freerider (and a LEGEND, do not misquote me), but as stated above, how does his experience lend him to judge "smoothness, flow, and line connectivity" in any way?
Most everything he's ever ridden on film back in the day were one-hit-wonders and he barely rode away from any of them!
That shit is the OPPOSITE of this event.

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redcorn (Oct 7, 2012 at 18:58)

I agree Bender is a legend...but mostly because he has balls the size of cabbages, almost no skill what so ever.

"I'm gonna hit this drop and do a no footer right as I land, it's gonna be sweet!"

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EricThiessen (Oct 8, 2012 at 0:10)

"no skill" thats definitely not true dude lol

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togood2die (Oct 8, 2012 at 4:36)

Comparatively speaking, that's the point. His era was one set of skills, this is another era. I'll be one of the first to say that watching him turned me into a hucker at age 14! If it weren't for that guy, I'd probably be a lycra-wearing XC guy... But it's just perspective that we're speaking to.

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CheryBomb (Oct 8, 2012 at 5:07)

Bender was one of the judges, so he could not influenced the results much. You say he is not technical rider, has no style etc., but he has the vision of freeride coz he is over 15 years in this sport. And how could judge these almost random guys(judges) that don't know specificity of this kind of sport? So here are these unfair results.

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mishanya (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:48)

judges sucking mathe facking

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olegcarter (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:02)

nice

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dlxx (Oct 7, 2012 at 15:16)

Boo the judges!

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ilovemtnbiking (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:43)

Ya buddy

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wllperegoy (Oct 7, 2012 at 16:15)

Yay sorge! Go giant!

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togood2die (Oct 7, 2012 at 17:08)

Yay Sorge! No Giant!

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Protour (Oct 8, 2012 at 23:19)

Yeah, thats actually another dumb bike brand nam, just as bad as Trek. Its funny when people pronounce it Gee-aunt, cause they think no company would be dumb enough to call themselves Giant. And they are thieves, stole the DW link design from Weagle without paying patent royalties.

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togood2die (Oct 9, 2012 at 4:31)

You're back again?
Holy crap, I said that because I just don't like the designs that much, not to be a troll.
You're trolling.
NO TROLL, NO!

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Red Bull Rampage 2012 - Final Results. The winner is...

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