2012 Kona Entourage Sneak Peek Extravaganza

Apr 27, 2011 at 18:51
by Kona World  

We sent Kona Team member Graham Agassiz into the wilds of his interior British Columbia homeland to see what he thought. With 170mm of super plush travel, ultra short chainstays and geometry that's quick, intuitive, and totally committed to going down, the Entourage is all about progression Kona style. And if the feedback from one of the world's best big mountain riders is any indication, we're on to something good. Get the real lowdown from Agassiz and his fellow gang member, Kona's Gravity Product Manager, Chris Mandell. Together they've crafted a jewel, one explained in detail through our newly released Proto Testing video, and in a Sneak Peek interview with Mandell where he breaks down the design philosophy and marquee features of the all-new 2012 Kona Entourage.

Check out the Entourage Sneak Peek microsite, featuring an interview with Kona's Gravity Product Manager, Chris Mandell

Aggy testifies his Entourage. Photo: Jeff Conner
Aggy testifies his Entourage. Photo: Jeff Conner

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The 2012 Entourage Prototype, size Large. 36.5 lbs, HTA 65 degrees. 170mm front and rear travel.


Designed specifically for the modern gravity rider: bike park, DH, tech singletrack, dirtjumps, and big course slopestyle.


Double shear stay pivots with 30mm OD bearings.


Chainstay main pivot with 40mm OD bearings w/ 17mm axle. Super short chainstays: 415mm / 16.3 inches


Top view of main pivot, 7005 aluminum frameset


Bottom bracket height: 343mm / 13.5 inches. Main pivots feature non-drive side hex bolts for easy maintenance.
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167 Comments

  • + 55
 I Would be fine if they kept it raw bike looks sick, Is it just me or is any bike with a Vivid Air Badass Looking???
  • + 41
 "if you want one bike to do everything, this is the bike"- HUGE claim
  • + 4
 i have my bike polished raw, i really like the look, the problem is it is really easy to see any wear and tear, and even with lacquer it still requires more work than a painted frame to look at its best.
  • + 34
 LOVE IT!! Kona seems to be getting back on track..i like it! go kona! we need a Kona-Comeback!
  • + 10
 yep vivid air is BADASS! love this bike, normaly dont like konas
  • + 2
 its kinda like the specialized bighits. i have a bighit and i can say it might not be the one bike to do everything but it can do a lot. i really love my bike for that reason.
  • + 13
 Kona is stepping up their game intensley!
  • + 3
 Yeah, it looks nice. But why the size large? I mean, Aggy isn´t a big guy...
  • + 12
 I've just heard from a shop worker that stocks Konas that they are releasing these (and Operator) frames, in a 'Raw' option as of 2012.

Stoked.
  • + 3
 I see a lot of negative comments about Kona, I think this will soon change!
  • + 10
 I think Kona has finally produced a bike that makes me jealous.
  • + 4
 If it looks that good in raw, can't wait to see what some color will do.
  • + 2
 Nice looking bike, a little bit on the heavy side though. Vivid air is a nice shock. Great for this kind of bike, I found the Coil faster for Dh compared to the air though.
  • + 1
 Looks a pretty good bike,filnaly kona did a good job ! up in www.ridebikess.com
  • - 1
 hang on BEN-G not having a go but pretty much any bike can do anything i have dirt jumped, downhilled, x countried, park/street, and trials (all be it not very well but you get the idea) with my bike and its still going strong
  • + 2
 they should just add 10mm of travel and just call it a stinky. the stinky is a proven design and it is loved my many. New design looks sick tho, nice clean lines
  • + 1
 kaizerness he's not riding a large. the entourage in the pictures isn't his. he rides a small that's only 33 lbs
  • + 1
 Seems quiet....Where have all the Kona Haters gone? Nice bikes putting out they are.
  • + 1
 Yeah benko. I noticed that later then comparing the size of the bike in the video. Thanks
  • + 1
 The stinky had 170 travel, and would be about the same weight with that build kit, and it kind of looks like it. Good at everything, apart from getting to the top of the hill.
  • + 1
 There was an operator out today, that bike is very quiet indeed.
Kona seem to have gone from making noisy bikes to quite ones.
Operator was long (although it was a large), felt nice in a basic test.
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  • + 20
 what is it with all the kona haters? my one gripe with kona is they can be alittle on the weighty side other than that the bikes are sick, this looks like alot of fun well built and chuckable... cant wait to go for a test ride next year!
  • + 5
 not to be a negative nancy or nothing here... old Kona frames we're heavy. I owned several and loved all of them, but this past season i fell away from Kona because they were not keeping up with other companies in terms of travel adjustability and consistency... they have completely changed the weight and adjustment issues with the new Operator. I could not believe how light and easy to ride around the new Operator is. I will be grabbing one of the Operators and Entourage's next year as soon as available.
  • + 1
 my '11 operator FR came out of the box at 40lbs, no lie. Did some swapping of parts to bring it closer to Supreme operator spec (more dh friendly), and it sits at 39.72lbs. My 09 stinky was 40.2lbs after a bunch of work. Now I just need to find the $$ to get one of these bad boys on the first shipment.
  • + 2
 djshaggy, you'd be happy to know that the small frame team-build entourage is very light at only 33lbs, which is a huge improvement from older frames of previous freeride models
  • + 1
 really lifting off all the bad press on them i think. these and the new operators are banging!
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  • + 20
 Sick looking bike! That's a kona I actually want to ride!
  • + 1
 just thinking that
  • + 3
 Looks like they changed the name of the Operator FR.
I wonder if they'll keep the Stinky in their 2012 lineup?
  • + 9
 i guess with the Operator DH and now the Entourage FR you wont see any new Stab or Stinky models from now on
  • + 7
 You cant get rid of the Stinky.. its classic..
  • + 4
 yea man I agree stinky holds a name in the sport so many riders have owned a stinky at some point and they were rad bikes
  • + 4
 I'm almost 100% shure they will bring back the stinky just like Giant did with the Faith!
  • + 1
 maybe in a couple of years...
  • + 1
 @jaketinnelly they didnt change the name of the operator fr. that was just an operator with a fr build this has 6.7 inches of travel and different geo
  • + 1
 Ok thanks. I'm interested to see the whole 2012 lineup, because it seems a lot has changed for Kona.
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  • + 16
 honestly im not a huge kona fan, but both graham aggasiz and dylan sherrard pump me up so much with their riding that it makes me want one.... sick looking bike and amazing rider
  • - 27
 kinda like the ellsworth freeride bike?
  • + 12
 a good rider can make a KONA looking good Big Grin
fabien barel for example ... he won the world champ title on a Stab !
90% rider 10% bike
  • + 5
 that shows you know nothing about the recent history of downhill mountainbikes...

the stab was the most innovative bikes form `03 to `05 (prototypes not the resale models) and ALL other bike companies copied the stabs geo

so you could say the stab was the basis for modern DH bikes
  • + 11
 Thats a pretty big claim. Yes it played a part but there are other bikes that you could easily say the same for. Iron Horse Sunday, Orange 224, Giant glory, Spesh demo. Its not down to one bike in particular
  • - 7
 stab was the basis of DH?!? most innovative from 03-05?!? BAHAHAHAHAHA! wobbly-assed 4 bar link hasn't changed since 1990! the Stab was the ugly stepchild of the whole industry, not the leader of anything except bad looks and weight penalty.

Fabian Barel = 99% rider 1% bike.

they finally made the chainstays shorter, which is the biggest, (or only) improvement i can find here. i've had a stinky, it was fun, but it was about as innovative as a farm tractor from the 1940's. i wonder if kona will keep the 4-bar rear end for ANOTHER 15 years. lol.
  • + 1
 It's not really about "4-bar" (a wide or vague term) being "outdated."

Unless you talk about looks, in which case you're not talking about how a bike rides or performs but instead are talking about how it looks when photographed or when sitting in your truck's bed or on your vehicle's rack.

Which may count for much in sales, but it is pretty irrelevant in bike performance.
  • + 3
 dont want to start an argument here or someshit but, I went from a 09 stab to a pretty decked 2010 banshee legend mk2 and then this year im on the operator, the minor changes they made to the bike are night and day compared to the stab and in my own opinion the operator rides wayyy sicker then the 2 previous bikes ive ridden, 4 bar or complicated suspension design the operator is pimp. And i know from personal experience the entourage is also an unbelievable bike
  • + 3
 goxbigxorxgoxhome wrote: "a good rider can make a KONA looking good fabien barel for example ... he won the world champ title on a Stab ! 90% rider 10% bike"

I assume you mean that wining a world cup title is more dependent on the rider than on the bike. If that is the case then what difference does it make what bike you buy and following that logic it's quite silly to pay $3000 for a frame when a $1800 frame will do the job. I still don't know why people dislike Kona with such ferver
  • + 5
 yep thats true!

i've got a 06' stinky for Park / Slopestyle ... but when it goes to DH i take my Session 88
and i agree with you ... most of people dont like kona because other people already told that they sucks! (and they have never ridden a kona)
and one fact on kona is great:

they're cheap ! so most the kids can buy one and get skills on a bike
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  • + 11
 if anyone reads this or not?, i don't really care.
first off, every other company out there should take note at how well this was put together, how it wasn't just a "look cool" look we got the best rider in the business video. it came with vigor and most importantly.. information, which drove this msg home.
do i know Aggy? no, do i enjoy his riding alot? very much, do i care for kona bikes?, not at all.
this was scripted and shot almost perfectly in my opinion, and i can't wait to see more.
  • + 3
 Couldn't agree with you more. That's a slick little edit -- props to Kona for doing it right. I'm not usually a fan of Konas -- at all, but that's a really sick looking bike.
  • + 1
 agreed was simple, quick, and drove the message home, kona is definitely pushing the bar for something new, if the bikes hold up to its message it will be a big turn around for them congrats kona !
  • + 2
 Totally agree. Kona makes some really great videos. The Supreme Operator before this is still clear in my mind from watching that a number of times.
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  • + 10
 kona are moving up in the world now ! i would actually concider getting one in the future now, such a killa' bike
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  • + 5
 Alot of bikes are starting to look alike with little tweaks here and there, looks like the industry has finally found something that works and is going with that, look at the Session/ Scratch, new Truxa (Norco) and now this one, plus many more out there. In my opinion I would rather have something that I know is going to work well and is proven rather than something new and gimickie, sorry Cannondale.
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  • + 2
 Designed specifically for the modern gravity rider: bike park, DH, tech singletrack, dirtjumps, and big course slopestyle...

thats what it says , nothing about xc worthy.. i ride a coiler deluxe with a lyrik u-turn and don't like xc on that one either, its possible yes but only my choice if i have 1 bike to bring on a longer biketrip..
for the purpose its meant i think the bike wil do fine , kona's are fine i think ( my coiler is holding up fine for 3 years now and i am the 3rd or 4th owner... and not being gently..)

i like the entourage , curious about the paintjob , might buy one eventually.. second hand probably..hahaha
  • + 2
 "Tech singletrack" said in addition to "downhill" suggests a pedaling ride.

I consider any pedaling ride "XC" and don't know why anyone would be in a hurry to limit "XC" to lycra, heart rate monitors, 1.9" bald tires, visorless helmets, and disco slippers.

I agree that the "one bike to do it all" is absurd when it has 7" travel and weighs between 35 and 40 lbs.

On the other hand, I agree that as a gravity-oriented bike pedaled only lightly and occasionally, 7" travel and 35-40 lbs is pretty nice, but I doubt 7" is needed.

In 5 years we're going to see travel amounts come back to what they were 5 years ago. It's already happening with bikes like the Yeti ASR5 and the new SC Blur TRc. People are realizing that just as 24" wheels and 3.0 Gazzaloddis on a 50-lb Banshee Scream were way overkill, so are modern ideas of burliness and travel requirement.

Or maybe it will be worse and people will stop learning how to ride bikes, and instead will be able to buy bikes that do everything for them!
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  • + 2
 It looks great... but I bet it is less "do it all bike" than old Stinky. Seat tube angle and quite short seatpost adjust... It looks like it is not even short uphill ride approved bike. It's more like "It will f*ck up your knees during long rides on flat bike". I don't see space for the front mech either.

I would buy one, but I would have to buy Tanuki also... So bikes like Stinky TL (or, if you are Kona hater, new Specialized SX) are better option for "if you want one bike to do everything, this is the bike".

And to be cool... I have the same old Kona T-shirt. Wink
  • + 6
 I agree, I'd say it's a "do it all going down hill" bike. I couldn't imagine such a slack bike would be that sweet on an xc ride. Sick bike though. I wish people would stop trying to make a do it all bike considering it's pretty much been proven impossible. Until they can make a sub 30 lb bike that can withstand the beating of a downhill run, has 8 inches of travel yet pedals like a hardtail, and has on the fly geometry adjustment there wont be a do it all bike.
  • + 1
 Until they can make a sub 30 lb bike that can withstand the beating of a downhill run, has 8 inches of travel yet pedals like a hardtail, and has on the fly geometry adjustment



erm you mean a 2011 Coilair ?
Magic link geometry adjustments, with a good build get it below 15kg and can definatly hold up a day in the bikepark or dh track imo
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  • + 1
 they finally changed konas geo (shorter chainstay), that was one reason i stepped away from kona. i like bikes with a good flickability and the old konas didn`t have too much of that. they were built for shredding down real fast and hard and for lasting long. i think the entourage is a step in the right direction. the one thing that bothers me about it is, they call it a do it all bike...i think there are other bikes out there who have a more "do it all charactre". the scott voltage fr (where you can change a thousand things so it would suit from dj to DH...depends what shock lengthes you use and wheelbase options you make). or the transition tr250...where you can make chainstays longer or shorter (like the voltage), change the head angle, BB and the rear travel... i ride a tr450 myself and it is so maneuverable....and i have heard the 250 is like a bmx with suspension ;-).
but still the entourage is a nice bike but it is more in secialized`s sx trail category and not a do it all kind of thing.
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  • + 1
 they finally changed konas geo (shorter chainstay), that was one reason i stepped away from kona.--dont get me wrong i`m not a kona hater but i like bikes with a good flickability and the old konas didn`t have too much of that. they were built for shredding down real fast and hard and for lasting long. i think the entourage is a step in the right direction. the one thing that bothers me about it is, they call it a do it all bike...i think there are other bikes out there who have a more "do it all charactre". the scott voltage fr (where you can change a thousand things so it would suit from dj to DH...depends what shock lengthes you use and wheelbase options you make). or the transition tr250...where you can make chainstays longer or shorter (like the voltage), change the head angle, BB and the rear travel... i ride a tr450 myself and it is so maneuverable....and i have heard the 250 is like a bmx with suspension ;-). but still the entourage is a nice bike but it is more in secialized`s sx trail category and not a do it all kind of thing.
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  • + 4
 It must be a good bike; its got the bendy downtube, bendy top tube and bendy seattube that everyone does!
  • + 1
 SCORE!

nice one

(the short CS is a great improvement, though)
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  • + 1
 My full Dh bike is 36.5 pounds. stop over building all your bearings, pivots, and apparently tubing! it is looking good though and I'm happy to see Kona trying harder and keeping there head in the game. inching closer to contention with the big dogs.
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  • + 1
 I'm no engineer but where is the floating disc? Is this bike going to have brake jack? Also why is the upper link not using a one piece rocker. It's not an industry standard for stiffness? Definately a lighter and more asthetically pleasing Kona.
  • + 1
 I have to agree. In the video the rear wheel was locking up over every bump.
Aesthetically it's not terrible... but I am on your side again about the one-piece rocker arm.
I am curious... is this a DH bike? With an interrupted seat tube I can't see it being pedaled anywhere.

I would be very surprised to see this bike come from the factory under 36 pounds with the size of the clevises and tubes.
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  • + 1
 Please enlighten me regarding this versus a Specialized SX Trail? Yes, the SX is not a cheap bike. What other comparisons can be made? I am a huge fan of short chainstays, and the Entourage has 4mm shorter stays than the SX. What else?
  • + 1
 At first, I thought it was more similar to the bighit, and probably more close in the price range.


The specs compared to the sx trail and bighit:

chainstay: 415mm vs. 419mm vs. 426mm
bb height: 343mm vs. 356mm vs. 365mm
travel: 170mm vs. 180mm
ht angle: 65 vs 65.5
st angle: 62ish vs. 70 vs. 71
seatpost: 150mmish vs. 300mm


I'm sure it behaves very different than the specialized bikes (insanely short chainstay, insanely low bottom bracket, very slack angles). FSR generally pedals more pleasantly than single pivot. This is definitely a gravity centric/specific bike designed descend and rail and be agile, but not a pedal bike..think whistler where they have lifts and machined trails.

Also, check some of the explaining www.leelikesbikes.com/how-seat-tube-angle-determines-bike-character.html regarding seat post angles.
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  • + 1
 Looks like it was broken and they put it back together... same as the operator. They might be good bikes, but they're just trying keep up with the competition, and that short of a seat tube for a "do it all"... hmmm
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  • + 1
 im a ig kona fan, but i hate the downtube, soz guys it looks like a crashed bike, love the finish mind. Ps it does look much better in the vid though, so maybe i was a bit quick to judge it!
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  • + 3
 Love the super short stays. Makes a bike far more nimbler and gives greater pop. Being easier to manual doesn't hurt too.
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  • + 1
 ive never been a fun of kona i have owned two and they have not been very good for me but i am really liking the new bikes like the supreme operator and now this one kona is starting to come out with some killer bikes
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  • + 2
 cool bike, i use my commençal furious that way, the difference is that mine weights about 19kg and this one 15 :O thats verry nice
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  • + 2
 Awesome, reminds me of the old stab primo with the wonky bottom tube. A+++. About time these f*ckers start pickn up their game.
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  • + 2
 @getsomesy, i currently have a Stinky 08 and it is such a great bike. You clearly do not understand.
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  • + 4
 Nice bike.
  • + 2
 looks realy plain but in a nice way like the operator,
  • + 2
 a step in the right direction for kona
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  • + 1
 That is a very nice bike! As i am upgrading to a Tomac Primer dh this year, i will miss dj's and freeride. Maybe this is the bike a need to get to use for jumps and shiz.
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  • + 3
 Nicest Kona I've ever seen
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  • + 1
 Very nice indeed. Now be careful with the decals and colours!! Should kept sober and simple, like the one on the first photo for example. Some anodizing would be nice....
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  • + 2
 It looks nice but I'll see how it compares in price and components to a voltage FR20 For next year
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  • + 1
 Damn that was the best advertisement I have ever seen, the bike is for sure dialed and if they left the heat marks from the weld on the raw frame I would poop my pants.
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  • + 1
 I like it. they shortned up the wheel bas enice cuz my buddys kona eats derraiullers.
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  • + 1
 Are those Code calipers with Shimano discs? I run the same combination with the old Codes and it's perfect Smile
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  • + 1
 i was able to ride one of these about three weeks ago and i have to say it is one of the sickest most fun bike ive rode
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  • + 2
 hot damn, dubstep makes everything in slow mo so much better
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  • + 1
 good thing to see Kona changing their lineup of bikes. Its better than the last few years
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  • + 2
 dayum, konas def gettin their grade A game up likin those numbers too
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  • + 1
 been a while since ive gone riding in spences bridge. thinking im gonna have to make a trip over there again sometime soon
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  • + 2
 i know what bike im getting next year
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  • + 2
 How Much???

Looks like its geared to compete with the Voltage FR
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  • + 1
 I dont see it as a do it all bike. Look at the seat tube length and angle.! Nice FR bike though
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  • + 1
 Whaaaaat another bike already? And Aggy on Bell helmets onstead of Giro (I know it's the same brand) ?!?!?
  • + 1
 This is just a proto they won't be selling them till late 2011 early 2012
  • + 1
 Yea but the operator freeride looks pretty much like this bike...
  • + 1
 Yeh I know it's just a lilttle light and shorter rear end
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  • + 1
 Since when have 415mm/16.3 chainstays been SUPER short? I know it's a fully, but still...
  • + 1
 Since always. XC hardtail standard is 420-425, 415 is not uncommon on more 'jumpy' hardtails. 415 for a fully is really short.
  • + 2
 I did some research and I think I actually have to agree with you. Even the Killswitch doesn't have remarkably shorter stays, eventhough it has way less travel and is designed to ride like a HT dj frame. So yes, I admit, this Kona does have super short stays. Silly me...
  • + 1
 compared to what used to come on a stinky, 17.7", its a big improvement that their bikes have been waiting for.
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  • + 2
 This is a sick FR bike! Cool Kona's Rock!!!
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  • + 2
 i just hope they dont f+ck up the colors like on the operator
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  • + 2
 I WANT IT but i wonder how much it costs
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  • + 1
 THEY SHOULD DEFINETLY MAKE THIS BIKE COLOUR ORANGE FOR NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • + 1
 It looks really nice but I don't know how much of a Do it All Bike it is. I'll take an Ibis MoJo HD.
  • + 3
 Its a do it all big mountain bike. I dont think they expect you to ride real xc with it. Its way too slack for that.
  • + 2
 i agree. its not an all mountain bike and besides, they're only using a single chain ring on it.
  • + 2
 A shuttle-specific do-it-all bike? Now that is original. Cool video for sure though!
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  • + 2
 super prototype wanna ride it
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  • + 0
 i have owned kona bikes, and i can testify that it is a bullshit suspension design. there are a ton of better designs out there.
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  • + 2
 That looks exactly like the 2011 fr but I still love it.
  • + 1
 looks, but is not. The geo is more 'compact'
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  • + 2
 Anyone know roughly how much this will cost when it comes out?
  • + 2
 Operator FR is $2599cnd. Best guess it would be the same range as that, Kona always prices the bikes well.
  • + 1
 Whats that in GBP?
  • + 1
 Google is your friend. Five seconds and the search string "2599Cad in GBP" got me 1644.45 british pounds.
  • + 1
 Thanx alot, looks like I'll have to start saving
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  • + 1
 Wonder what the wheelbase is like, could be a sweet as mini DH rig for the short tracks that prevail in the UK.
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  • + 1
 is that a 160 mm or 170 mm lyrik?
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  • + 1
 Please be cheap, please be cheap, PLEASE BE CHEAP!!!!
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  • + 1
 how much do you think it will cost
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  • + 1
 Kona this is a step in the right directions Smile
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  • + 1
 Thats one sick Kona fosure
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  • + 1
 whats the difference between this and the operator ??
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  • + 1
 That Chris guy is dreamy!
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  • + 1
 I actually like this ... alot
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  • + 1
 What helmet is that, it does not look like a Drop. Looks sick.
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  • + 1
 first kona bike that im stoked about!!
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  • + 1
 hopefuly kona got rid of their breaking problem...this looks ace.
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  • + 1
 this bike is baaaad. freakin love it
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  • + 1
 DRINK T MIKCKS AND SHRED MO, IT'S MY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • + 1
 es filete la tengo y es extremadamente buena (y) totalmente recomendable
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  • + 1
 it was pretty close ... with ALOOOOOT of fantasy Wink
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  • + 1
 This thing looks radtastic. I wonder if he rides the seat at that angle?
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  • + 2
 those bearings are huge!
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  • + 2
 not a bad little bike
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  • + 1
 that would be the ss bike for me ! really nice
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  • + 1
 The downtube looks kinda stupid, but except that = tup
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  • + 1
 Bike looks sick, nice shape of the frame.
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  • + 1
 I love parts with torque settings etched on them.
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  • + 1
 that bike would be sweet with some fox 180mm forks!
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  • + 1
 Kona, Movin' up in the world! no doubt thats a bitchin bike
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  • + 2
 kona is making better!
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  • + 1
 First time that I wanted a Kona, ever.
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  • + 1
 be a good as bike the raw frame looks tops
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  • + 0
 I think a floating suspension might work pretty good on this one
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  • + 0
 will this replace the operator freeride?
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  • + 0
 reminds me of a scratch.
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  • - 3
 its an operator fr. woop dee doo
  • + 6
 Your dumb. Operator FR was the 200mm travel DH frame with a single crown, the Entourage FR is a 170mm travel FR frame. Totally different bike.
  • + 1
 not to mention the shorter seat stays.
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