Vintage Shore Photos

Nov 28, 2011 at 23:02
by Lee Lau
 

We asked Lee Lau, who wrote the foreword to the Locals' Guide to North Shore Rides, to dig through his archive of old photos and come up with some incriminating favourites. Some of you may be old enough to remember the "good old days", or some of you might just laugh and point at the crude gear and funny clothes, but hopefully you will find this quick glimpse of North Vancouver mountain bike history entertaining. All of the photos below are from his albums, taken roughly between 1997 and 1998 - not that long ago, but it looks like a far away time and place.



bigquotesThis photo of Wade Simmons, shot by Ian Hylands, was for one of the first guidebooks of North Vancouver's trails (unfortunately out of print). Derek Westerlund and Bjorn Enga were doing that old guidebook and needed a shot, so they dragged Wade out of the Cove bike shop where he was working as a wrench. Wade dropped the "Crater" on Mt Fromme on a borrowed Gary Fisher Joshua - he always delivers - and went on to become a professional freerider who was inducted into the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame. Check out the sweet pant clip that he's using to keep his sweat pants out fo the triple ring crankset.















bigquotesThis shot is of Sharon Bader, the co-author of the Locals' Guide trail book. She hadn't ridden on the Shore for a while, but I had some old armour retrieved from a local shop dumpster dive for her to wear. Those were different times! Sharon is on the Bark Bridge section of Ladies' Only, on her hand built Brodie Expresso steel hardtail, complete with styling Judy XC front suspension and rocking a full xc lycra kit. Good thing she rides like a girl! Sharon went on to become the President of the NSMBA, helps to organize mountain bike events and authors guide books.



















bigquotesLong before Harookz ever held a camera he knew how to perform for the lens. Here he is on a rigid steel hardtail launching off of a drop to flat on Pink Starfish. This is at the site of the old cabin that's now collapsed. Harookz is now a successful professional photographer. Is that a top tube pad on his bike?

























bigquotesOn a dark, wet day Noel Buckley navigates some cedar wood skinnies on Bookwus, Mt Fromme. Noel went on to found Knolly, a manufacturer of high end mountain bikes. On the front of Noel's bike you can see Marzocchi's first edition of their Z1, a four inch travel fork that changed how suspension was perceived. No, it wasn't light, but it's open bath design and smooth stroke blew minds at the time.
























bigquotesThis is a shot of myself, taken the day before racing the Canada Cup XC up at Whistler. I had the number plate on for the next day's race already (talk about keen!) and didn't have the sense to rest before the race. This was on River Runs Through It, and I'm riding a beautiful lime green Norco Torrent with a whopping 80mm travel Marzocchi up front. The municipality didn't have risk-managers go through the trails and put up rope railings to keep us safe back in those days, so I ride it clipped in with fully lycra.














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136 Comments

  • + 86
flag mtb24pride (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:01)
 Incredible how much the sport has changed in terms of equipment, these bikes and protections are scary simple
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flag wavo (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:03)
 I think alot about how much it has evolved so quickly, equipment wise, also!
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flag RaleighVoid (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:14)
 just goes to show, its not all about the bike...
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flag stinky-deluxe-smith (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:15)
 maguras hs 22s in 2nd photo still havent changed much haha
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flag steve-815 (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:47)
 What i noticed is almost all the bikes there have water bottle holders and water bottles. Now there is all the fancy bags and camelbaks so that the bikes can be lighter and fancier by not having these cababilities.
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flag wolfe38 (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:01)
 these old bikes all look exactly like Walmart bikes today.
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flag kolbiez (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:04)
 WHERE IS THE POY???
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flag newfie-rides (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:29)
 @wolfe38, its also hard to believe they were "top of the line" back in the day too.
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flag JRoe (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:32)
 I still ride with a water bottle when I'm on my hardtail it's just that my orange five was made without one so I carry my bottle in my bag. Haha.
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flag dannyweiland (Dec 11, 2011 at 16:50)
 i wonder if in 20 years the walmart bikes will look like the new demos hahah
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flag fr3er1d3r (Dec 11, 2011 at 17:22)
 These old bikes are ugly. And yeah they do look just like the walmart and target bikes that go for like 120-150 bucks.

I'm sure these were built sturdier though. I cracked a walmart full suspension in a week, only at the skatepark when I was like 11. They let me return it though Smile

It's awesome how quickly these mountain bikes got way beefier, sexier and lighter in only a few years. Glad to see the sport progressing so fast. I hope I never stop biking
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 11, 2011 at 17:50)
 this made me realize how much we've became big pussies and rely on 10 inches of travel and body armor to save our asses instead of raw skill.
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flag scottrallye (Dec 11, 2011 at 18:56)
 Awesome write up. I was getting into the sport when my Qudra-21 RockShox fork was the shit. My first 'downhill' bike was a 3" travel jamis dakar with a Manitou X-Vert dual-crown fork with 3.5" rise bars and Tioga tires. It blows my mind seeing 13 year old kids racing on full out $5000 downhill race rigs now. I love seeing old pics like this. That bike Simmons is riding in the first shot had me drooling back in the day...
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flag isaac1234567 (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:17)
 i bet moar people get hurt now then before. people go way bigger then they did back in the day
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:38)
 what are you talking about...bender was going off the jaw drop back in the day. i cant believe that was over 10 years ago. no one to this day has gone that big. pros try to be equally badass adding style to little 15' drops with fancy flips instead of straight 50'+ hucks. this sport has changed. videos used to play hard rock and were EXTREME!!!!!!!! now its full of hip hop and flat billed hats and all about style points. screw that. even these pics look more extreme then most today. just look at the pods. slinging dirt at the camera on a berm is getting lame.
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flag whistlerrider20 (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:35)
 I have rode all these trails countless times, and it never really hit me about the history right in my backyard. Really inspring to know that 10 minuets away from my house is the birthplace of modern freeride!
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flag fr3er1d3r (Dec 12, 2011 at 0:04)
 I know what you mean KTown but it's not like everyone's being a pussy. There's people out there doing stuff you couldn't do on these older bikes. I've seen plenty of fat hucks in addition to style. But yeah I know what you mean about it changing. It's going mainstream and is starting to become about looking cool, but so what. Doesn't make it any less of a sport if you're still bringing some balls to the trails
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flag iesubach (Dec 12, 2011 at 12:22)
 Going mainstream isn't necessarily bad though, as it brings money to the sport. While the pros push the boundaries of riding, the 13yo noobs bunny hopping off curbs on Demos are the ones that push the boundaries of manufacturing, as without money technology progression will never happen. So don't complain to much about the rich guys with shiny bikes.
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flag steve-815 (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:50)
 The bike in the first picture more resembles an Asda or Walmart bike now. Does this mean in a few years you will get a Trek session or a Santa Cruz v10 for £99 from supermarkets? :L
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flag bikeaddict123 (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:13)
 sweeet!
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flag fr3er1d3r (Dec 11, 2011 at 17:29)
 wouldn't that be great
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 11, 2011 at 18:05)
 I think bikes should be that cheap now. think about it, $3000 to $5000 for what? cheap alloys and aluminums, and steel, etc? Carbon fiber is the only thing worth that as far as strength. even that isn't that expensive in material. its not made of diamonds. bike manufacturers are all rip offs. it probably cost them $500 at the most in material to build a Demo. they slap a specialized stencil on it and a spray of paint and it goes up $100000000000.
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:50)
 haha funny the people who thumbed me down is a frame builder and a specialized owner...figures.
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flag grievo (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:06)
 Well they would know Better than anyone, wouldn't they?
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:21)
 not really. the frame builder disagrees because all he cares about is getting paid for his job which is understandable. the specialized owner is just pissed off he knows its true but paid a fortune anyway. seriously anyone who disagrees and wants bikes to be way over priced are complete idiots. that simple.
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flag nottinghambiker (Dec 12, 2011 at 0:22)
 I think your just jealous that you don't have a specialized
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flag bikeaddict123 (Dec 12, 2011 at 9:15)
 they are cheaper now... you can get these exact kind of bikes in halfords for £60... if that's what you want
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flag steve-815 (Dec 14, 2011 at 4:07)
 A bike shop could buy a 2009 Trek session 88 DH (in 2009) for £2600 and sell the bike for £3800. Trek probably makes the bike for around £1400. But the profits from the sale almost all go into the wages of the workers and designers, but with out them, there wouldnt be a bike in the first place. So claiming that they could sell the bikes for that cheap is wrong.
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 14, 2011 at 8:27)
 Not true! the cheap $170 bikes from department stores are mass produced by the thousands. someone had to design and build them as well and get paid. The reason they still make money off a cheap price is because they mass produce them at a low price selling thousands of more bikes each year then trek does in probably 5 years. Trust me thats basic business and thats why Walmart has boomed across the globe. selling more at a cheaper price gains more profit then selling less at higher cost. if for one day and one day only trek would sell a session 88 DH for $300 I guarantee bike stores would sell out in minutes forcing them to order more from trek. Plus cheaper prices would bring more and more people to buying bikes and getting into this sport causing mass profits from other sources such as events and races. the more popular the sport of MTB or any type biking becomes we might see it more on espn on tv instead of having to check up on websites. who knows pinkbike could become its own tv station.
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flag fr3er1d3r (Dec 14, 2011 at 8:58)
 yeah he's right. Walmart has those things produced in mass quantities, probably by companies that will only manufacture something for you if you order at least like 10-50 thousand of something. Walmart doesn't specialize in anything, they just buy and sell things that are mass produced as cheap as possible. Such a consumer store...I hate it. It's still not even that good of a deal. I hate Walmart.
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 14, 2011 at 9:47)
 yeah i know i'm not supporting Walmart or the quality of their bikes but they have a good sense of business and sales. i have yet to go to Walmart and not see someone in line with a bike. but i have been to a bike store and seen people laugh at the price tags and walk out.
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 14, 2011 at 10:00)
 also im gonna correct what i originally said. so maybe bikes like trek shouldnt be as cheap as a walmart bike but they shouldnt be more than $1500. when the price of a bicycle is more than a dirtbike witch comes with a far stronger and bigger suspension, a much stronger frame and a freakin motor; somethings priced wrong!
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flag fr3er1d3r (Dec 14, 2011 at 10:30)
 it's a smaller market. I'm sure motorcycles are more popular than mountain bikes. If I had to give a ratio...I'd guess like 1-10. Maybe more.
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flag krashDH85 (Dec 15, 2011 at 11:34)
 @KTown...You have to think about the manufacturing and engineering processes that go into a mountain bike for one. Starting with the linkage. Look at a dirtbike...they all use the same design...like the old Thrustlink on the RM's...a swingarm is pretty much it. Engineering feat? Not so much. Now look at the linkages on today's DH bikes. Much more complicated...there are equations upon equations that are run through to get the correct wheelpath and amount of travel based on the type of linkage that is being designed for the bike. Second, lets talk suspension. From a manufacturing standpoint, parts for dirtbikes are easier to make. The fork is larger, the rear shock is larger, therefore the internal parts needed can be made decently sized. And there are really no external adjustments, so there itself eliminates engineering and manufacturing all of the little internal parts that make a fork/rear shock adjustable. Now our forks, get all the same shock technology, but you have to add all of the internal parts that make a fork/rear shock adjustable (say the R2C2 adjustments) on a smaller scale. High and low speed compression and rebound take some thought to make that all fit into an 8" travel fork that we put on our bike, or a rear shock. Then there is the frames that someone has to weld blah blah blah the list goes on. But prices can't be driven down too much because next year the internals will most likely change in some way, or the linkage with change in some way, and then the entire process has to start over.

I agree that $5000 is a ton to spend on a DH bike, and the companies are making money off of it. But it's a business, not a charity. And if you break down every little thing that goes into building a top of the line DH bike, then it helps justify it a little, IMO.
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flag steve-815 (Dec 19, 2011 at 6:55)
 Do you really think the same amount of designing and testing goes into a walmart bike as a high end mountain bike. Walmarts manufacturing depends on cost where as top end companies will depend more on reducing weight while keeping strength. This will require extra design, new techniques, variations of ideas, all costing money. Walmart's design goal is how can we make a bike that is cheap, top companies design goal is to create a bike better than all others out there. That's where the money difference is.
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 19, 2011 at 19:02)
 lighter means a material that cant be welded back when cracked which means its useless! thats a wonderful design idea and should be paid big for. how about pick up some weights and do things called squats and build these things called muscles. people who take weight as a factor are just plain lazy. end of story. type till your fingers bleed there is no excuse for a BICYCLE being $5000. A simple steel frame is still the best choice. cracks, it can be welded back stronger! Funny how the pioneers of this sport started on "crappy" bikes like these. like i said on another comment this article just goes to show how we've all become pussies and rely on 10 inches of travel and body armor to save our asses instead of raw skill.
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flag krashDH85 (Dec 22, 2011 at 11:49)
 Welded back stronger? I think you are getting your facts nixed up. When you weld a joint, assuming the weld is good, the crack is going to happen in the hear affected area around the weld. The better the welder, the smaller this heat affected area will be (less time heat is introduced to the area). If it cracks on the weld, usually the weld is cold. Anyway, If it does crack in this heat affected area, which it should, then you are re-welding on a material that has already been affected by heat. Yes, the weld, if good, is stronger than the original material. But that new weld introduced another heated area on top of the previous one, which means the material around the new weld will be even weaker than before.

If a simple steel fame from back in the day was the best choice for the progression that has happened today, why isn't everyone and their brother on one? Why aren't all the pro's on steel frames with elastomer rear shocks directly in line with the chainstays? The pioneers of the sport started on these bikes...as they progressed so did their bikes, because they couldn't meet the demand of where the sport was going. This being said, I would love to see Simmons huck the monster truck gap on a soft tail, but that may have been sketchy, even when Disorder 3 was released...
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flag Sam41 (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:03)
 It's crazy how some riders went through the time and the development of the sport. They were there when MTB was about rigid steel bikes, and they are still there when MTB is about double-suspension alu/carbon bikes...and all the steps in-between! I also like to watch some videos of Steve Peat from back in the days, it was a totally different game!
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flag mitch4FreeRide (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:09)
 Got any links to the old steve peat videos? google isn't showing anything Frown
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flag RaleighVoid (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:28)
 here. its all in segments for ya.
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flag RaleighVoid (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:33)
 oops forgot the link... www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqWL3vVpvPk
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flag RaleighVoid (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:34)
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flag wallheater (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:41)
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X2i9S4r_yQ

Not sure which is the most impressive, Peaty ripping on a rigid Kona, or Collins Boy's hair!
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flag wallheater (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:45)
 Sorry, wrong link for some reason, try this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X2i9S4r_yQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

or search "Steve Peat- Worlds Number 1 Downhiller in the 1993 7UP BMBF DH Final, Eastridge Forest "
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flag RaleighVoid (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:47)
 just copy the link instead of clicking it guys..
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flag DustnRain (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:46)
 I'm on such a low end budget that I still ride bikes like that. I regularly ride an REI Novara Aspen from around 98' or so. Fully rigid and I ride on some of the trails up on Galbraith Mountain out in Bellingham WA. Evolution, U-Line, and Atomic Dog. I don't ride those trails quite as fast as some of the 'big bike' riders up there, but I get my airtime in.
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flag fr3er1d3r (Dec 11, 2011 at 17:25)
 yeah don't let your bike stop you from having fun!
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flag DustnRain (Dec 12, 2011 at 7:59)
 Thats what I've always said. I'm sure some riders see me unload my ride at the lot, and just laugh to themselves. Thing is though, I'm still on some of the same trails as they are with their bikes that are worth more than my pick-up truck.
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flag peddle (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:41)
 I remember running a 21"flatbar WITH bar ends and a 150mm stem. And semi slick front tires with knobby rears for better "traction". It wasn't a matter of "if" you would go otb, but when! Cook brothers "downhill" chain tensioners and height-right seatpost springs for the hardcores! Haha. I remember going to downshift in a turn before an uphill in a race and flinging my index shifter thumb pad into the brush. Makes me realize how complicated mountain biking really is these days. Still glad to live in the "future"!
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flag peddle (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:43)
 It was pretty easy to tell who the most skilled riders were when we were all on similar bikes...
Still got my 92 stumpy and my 96 alpinestars! I remember when I "upgraded" to V brakes! Haha. Don't know about the Peaty search, but look up Rob Warner on YouTube. Those boys (and others) were slaying on these super sketch bikes.
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flag mtnryder56 (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:14)
 Those were the days. We used to drive up from SF to ride. I met Haruki thru a website he had in the 90's that talked about "extreme mtn biking" And since I though we were extreme, we drove up there and met up with Harookz and Noel, a bike shop owner in Surrey (is this the same Noel that started Knolly?). Noel and Haruki showed us around the trails and absolutely blew our minds. At that time, no one could believe that we drove all the way up there just to go mtn biking, but of course now every one goes up there.

So sick to see it just start out...ride on
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flag ilikebikes1 (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:51)
 hey guys just look at how young this sport is compared to other sports and then think about how much its progressed and changed and its still in its infant years it still has alot of room to grow and is continuing to do so every year. just wait another ten years and it will be crazy
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flag RONDAL (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:25)
 i was going through my actual photographic album the other day, some old school photos of dangerous dan when we did FLOWrider performances out in the streets, original John Henry Days photos, original ladies only photos before any of the rework happened, and photos of Cory when he was likely around 25 from filming with Jorli. I feel blessed to have grown up on the shore.
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flag leelau Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 15:52)
 Wicked ..Show them~!!!!
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flag wee-eck (Dec 11, 2011 at 18:30)
 Wish I could say I had grown up on the shore Frown
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flag RONDAL (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:49)
 I'll have to scan them in.... there's some gems from down at the old roach store, then when they moved to Cordova and the sketchiest place ever, doing stair gaps at BC place when the indoor North Shore races were going on. 1998-2002 was a good vintage
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flag racerfacer (Dec 11, 2011 at 16:26)
 It blows my mind how rad people got back then on what were essentially today's cyclocross bikes (in terms of geometry, tires, bar setup, etc...). They were hitting stuff that pretty much everyone nowadays would go grab their 6"+ fully and some armour. I also think that today's trails have been tamed down for "sustainability". I think mountain biking is more fun now with the new gear, but I think the average rider was a lot better back then in terms of skill.
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flag konabike4321 (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:02)
 Pinkbike really summed up how far the bike industry has come so far
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flag cyfa89 (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:36)
 It says late 90's, thats when the bike industry started!?
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flag PedalShopLLC Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 18:41)
 ha ha ha --- I had a green colored Gray Fisher like the one in the first photo.

BAck then, l thought it was actually a pretty nice ride. My, we have come a long way.

Also had a Crack-N-Fail V700 which used a similar design like the Gary Fisher -- the C-dale had that janky headshock which sucked balls. We did 24 Hours Of Canaan with it and it sucked every bit of energy outta ya going up the wall (last climb before getting to the top, then heading back down). Those brake leverage adapter things C-dale came up were dreadful. (good idea but reality, they sucked). Then the one piece Coda cranks -- classic WTF were they thinking concept. For those in the didn't know --- it was a 3 ring crank milled from one block of aluminum.


I can remember thinking those Manitou forks where the shits, with their interchangeable elastomer bumpers: red was firm, blue was medium and l think yellow or purple was soft. you could mix match them for different stiffness.

One side unscrewed on me during a race popped out of the fork --- that was the end of my race right then and there.
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flag boo86 (Dec 12, 2011 at 0:07)
 I still have my old 1999 cannondale killer V. Yes it has V-brakes, yes it has 80mm of travel in the front and 0mm in the back. No I will never get rid of it.
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flag jgottya1 (Dec 12, 2011 at 7:27)
 I remember those days well .....very cool to see some of the old founders and it is great to see that they all turned out well and still have a hand in the movement ! Thanks for the memories !! Before Wades quadra 21s we were breaking mag 20s......man i loved those old Z1s, they were such a godsend. I still have brand new seal sets in the package for them if anyone needs them......Most of our old, high quality hard tails were bridgestone MB's and alpinestars elevated chain stay bikes and specialized stumpjumpers... And a lot of Girvin flex stems before rock shox and marzocchis......cool pictures !!!
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flag OTehNoes (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:56)
 Man, shows how much we rely on things like suspension lately. Still, I'd rather stick to my Lyriks than go rigid lol
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flag KTownRoyster (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:11)
 my first bike was a $300 GT hard tail with maybe 3 inches of travel. I don't even remember its model name. never did that frame crack or skip a gear. Its only flaw was its cheap wheels I bent and was told by bike stores, "We don't deal with cheaper bikes and cant replace parts" only so they could sell me their new multi-thousand dollar bikes. Now I own one of those $3000 bikes and yes, its wheels are bomb proof but the frame.......cracked.
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flag seamus (Dec 11, 2011 at 15:45)
 I had a trek y22 back then broke it and got a carbon y22 frame in 1998 under warrenty, still have the replacement frame in plastic wrap un-opened!
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flag cyfa89 (Dec 12, 2011 at 3:11)
 For sale?
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flag HenrikY (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:34)
 i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg310/Henrik_Y/Cykeldelar/MTBRaleighM8000.jpg

Sold it about 7 years ago, sometimes I wish that i hadn't.
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flag DustnRain (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:48)
 That kind of ride is sold at department stores (sans the good components) but the frame looks like something you'd find at wal-mart!
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flag Bjammin (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:08)
 what a gem
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flag leelau Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 15:58)
 wow - thanks for the feedback. Maybe I'll dig up some more incriminating pictures. These weren't even that old. I bet Tippie, Wade and Smoke have some back from when dinosaurs roamed the earth!!
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flag cyfa89 (Dec 11, 2011 at 11:57)
 Oh look, some real riding!
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flag BeerGuzlinFool (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:31)
 I owned one of those G.F.Joshuas for a couple of years. I enjoyed it at the time but can't imagine riding one now after riding the new suspension designs that have come out since.
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flag konarider112 (Dec 11, 2011 at 15:47)
 Ah the good old days! This is what I grew up with! I would love to see more!
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flag boo86 (Dec 12, 2011 at 0:27)
 PinkBike more like this please !! For all us born in the 70s gang.
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flag derry6564 (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:24)
 nowadays, i'm not sure i could trust those kind of bikes, but back then, that must have been high end stuff! just makes you wonder if we'll be looking back at todays photos in the same way
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flag soupman (Dec 11, 2011 at 17:32)
 Show that you really dont need to have a good/great bike to be a good mtb rider. You see a bike like that now and think "thats shit"..but hey, got the job done back then....Love this article...props man
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flag bikingtillidie (Dec 12, 2011 at 13:01)
 At the time these bikes were top of the line, but compared to today they are like the bikes available at Argos.......... just makes you think will Intense M9's and Yeti 303 DHR's of today be the Argos bikes of tomorrow
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flag burned (Dec 12, 2011 at 10:17)
 I remember riding the shore in the early 90's before any type of suspension was available. Too bad we didn't take any pictures of how it used to be. Bought my first mountain bike in 85 at Sharpey's.
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flag StinkyKieran (Dec 12, 2011 at 4:46)
 lol, these photos all remind me of my dad who up until last year was still riding his '87 rigid steel bike on black trails in wales xD
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flag trailblitz (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:35)
 In my few months of working at a bike shop, i saw two of those crazy framed gary fisher bikes, both were in one piece. I also worked on an oldschool carbon framed trek dual suspension bike
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flag cyfa89 (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:36)
 Y33?
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flag trailblitz (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:22)
 yea, thats the one
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flag georgy291 (Dec 11, 2011 at 16:48)
 who else thinks there should be another downhill series where theres a £100 cost limit on the bike?
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flag boo86 (Dec 12, 2011 at 0:26)
 Maybe £500 ? But yes I agree.
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flag georgy291 (Dec 12, 2011 at 9:24)
 no not £500, since £500 would introduce suspension in to the whole thing. Where as basic £100 halfords bikes is what i was going for
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flag rydindirty (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:31)
 awesome pics and article! I used to have a couple of those those Gary Fisher bikes. Keep the old school stuff coming!
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flag McGforstrocker (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:53)
 cameras became better, too!
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flag leelau Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:10)
 That's for sure
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flag i-ride-on-dirt (Dec 11, 2011 at 16:15)
 riding like that was long before my time on a bike, but it's very interesting to see where it all came from!
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flag chettjames (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:22)
 "they're droppin' in bottoms first"!!!!!!
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flag galliwasp (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:04)
 Is that a Johnny Smoke quote, perchance?
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flag chettjames (Dec 11, 2011 at 17:20)
 well done!! glad some one got it! used to ride a little with most of those boys once and a while back in the day. Wheelie droppin' whatever we could find, man it sure used to be fun!!
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flag galliwasp (Dec 12, 2011 at 8:41)
 Dear Memoirs,

Woo! Long top-tube with a short stem. Cantilevers, just before them fancy v-brakes hit the scene. Two-inch travel fork on a steel hard-tail (Brodie Xpresso for this fellow). Onza Porcupine tires. Sketchy and fun, absolutely. I remember a time when I was shown the trail Pink Starfish, and partway down the trail, if recalls serves me well, we took a detour into a trail called The Crippler, where after a short walk the trail began with no discernible entrance. It was a secret, so I felt privileged. At the time, that trail handed my as5 to me, most likely because I used clips and didn't drop my post -- "Drop my seat-post? What for?" -- but also because it was beyond anything I was used to riding. I got spanked -- what an eye-opener. "Wake up, buddy! This is the business." I value having had the education.

Cheers, chettjames!
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flag leelau Plus (Dec 12, 2011 at 10:18)
 Beyond awesome! Sharon had a Brodie eXpresso too and she's riding it in the shot. I still use it for my commuter.
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flag superpowerphil Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:19)
 I had one of those Z1's on my Kona Hot back in the day... Way simpler times if you ask me.
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flag deeeight Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:08)
 I've photos from the canadian national XC championships in 1991 and there was a total of SIX suspension fork equipped bikes out of the entire field as I recall.
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flag ridestuff (Dec 12, 2011 at 16:10)
 Dekerf Generation '97. Raced XC, DH, and even did some DJ'n on "Big D". Now set up as a SS. You can't beat a good hand made steel bike!
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flag bryandickson (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:46)
 Its amazing how much the sport has changed! Everything they use is so basic compared to now!
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flag kentb276 (Dec 11, 2011 at 11:58)
 These pictures are great!
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flag autopirate (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:27)
 I remember those days like yesterday... Wade Simmons is a Legend...
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flag pheonix-up (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:44)
 love the wade simmons grey tracksuit! AWESOME!
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flag leelau Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:11)
 I was hoping someone would notice that! Wade's middle name is STYLE
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flag Bighitfsr19 (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:40)
 Brake pads on these kind of trails would suck Razz
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flag DustnRain (Dec 13, 2011 at 11:59)
 not suck, but scream, screech and grind!
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flag niesen-ranger (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:28)
 nice, i got the firs episode of the NS video....
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flag greenthumb (Dec 11, 2011 at 11:58)
 niceWink would have been good times, riding there in those daysWink
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flag chanstarhope (Dec 12, 2011 at 4:21)
 True what they say today. All the gear no idea!
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flag fraserbritton Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:38)
 That's one heck of an advertisement right there...
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flag leelau Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:54)
 This was fun to write. No obsessing about gear or bling parts
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flag AngelWho (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:01)
 Look ma, no disk brakes!!!!!
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flag wearitwell (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:28)
 i remember the hydro rim brakes, man they were good brakes. AHah ya that gf bike prob did explode hahha
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flag DrewDerfff (Dec 12, 2011 at 13:00)
 man its crazy to see how fast the sport has progressed in such a short amount of time
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flag epavichthesavage Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:58)
 It's crazy to imagine what these guys were trying to do on bikes of that type
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flag bubbaburger911 (Dec 11, 2011 at 18:49)
 these bikes were as good as it got back in the day. now you could compare it to modern walmart bike.
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flag speconapetar (Dec 11, 2011 at 12:51)
 now THAT was when the REAL RIDING happened
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flag devanish (Dec 12, 2011 at 3:29)
 Holy frick I'm getting old, those pics made me cry!!!
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flag Rockurshoxoff95 (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:14)
 Wow, the sport has come a long way since I was 2 years old Razz
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flag MathiasWensveen (Dec 11, 2011 at 14:10)
 We've come quite far since 1997.
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flag freerideglory (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:21)
 The oldskool stuff just looks Dangerous!
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flag DustnRain (Dec 12, 2011 at 8:06)
 But Dangerous is Fun, I thought thats why we did this sport, get that little edge of danger going on right, right?
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flag matteoganora (Dec 12, 2011 at 1:37)
 Old School Rocks!!! Awesome pics, that's the story of all of us!
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flag maddog1982 (Dec 11, 2011 at 21:59)
 Let's not forget Jason McRoy ??
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flag boo86 (Dec 12, 2011 at 0:09)
 Yeah - he's from the same town as me. representing the original Washington.

www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/History-Lesson-Rare-footage-of-Jason-McRoy-MTB-superstar-RIP-1994,6151
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flag boo86 (Dec 12, 2011 at 0:51)
 He's been in the local paper recently too. The evening chronical. (good job section on Thursday!)

www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/evening-chronicle-news/2011/04/12/dad-of-washington-biker-jason-mcroy-speaks-about-his-son-72703-28504899
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flag konarider112 (Dec 11, 2011 at 15:47)
 Also, please post old shaums march and jay hoots videos!
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flag bradn104 (Dec 12, 2011 at 8:35)
 Sweatpants.
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flag ChinoJ10 (Dec 11, 2011 at 13:11)
 Hahah thats awesome !
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flag bradwalton Plus (Dec 11, 2011 at 20:39)
 awesome Lee!
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flag McFuggles (Dec 11, 2011 at 19:21)
 Yay mountain biking!
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flag romich (Dec 12, 2011 at 1:58)
 yes!
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