Day One Randoms - Sea Otter 2016

Apr 14, 2016 at 22:23
by Mike Kazimer  
Sea Otter 2016


ElevenSix Push
Push had their Colorado-made ElevenSix shock hooked up to a telemetry device to illustrate one of the ways they gather real world data about a shock's behavior on the trail.


Ergon
Ergon have added two new saddles to their line that are geared towards riders who are looking for extra comfort. The SMC4 has a deep relief channel and comes in three different widths and three different levels of padding.


Ergon
The firmer feel of a race oriented saddle isn't for everyone, which is why Ergon created the SMA3. It takes design cues from their SME3 model, but features a little extra padding for more comfort. Available in two widths, the ti-railed version weighs a claimed 245 grams and retails for $99.95, and the cro-mo version is $79.95


Oakley
Oakley says their EVZero sunglasses are the lightest sport glasses they've ever made, with a frameless design to provide as wide of a range of vision as possible. MSRP: $160 - $200 USD.


FSA Afterburner
FSA has a new version of their Afterburner wheels in the works based around the same 27mm wide (internal) rims found on Gravity's Grid wheels, but with an more refined hub design.There will be 27.5" and 29" versions, but pricing and final details aren't available yet.


Smith
It was a little chilly, and at times a lot windy, but the sun was shining for most of the day here in Monterey, California. Smith was displaying the latest addition to their lifestyle line of sunglasses, the Founder. MSRP: $99 - $169 USD.
Smith
Smith also had their Squad MTB goggle in nearly every frame color imaginable.


Race Face
Race Face's Next SL carbon cranks get even lighter for 2016 thanks to a new arm shape and direct mount chainring design that uses a carbon fiber spider.


Race Face
The patent-pending direct mount chainring design is claimed to provide a 13% decrease in lateral deflection, which should make the crankset feel stiffer as a whole, especially when you're putting the power down in the granny gear trying to grind your way to the top of a steep climb.


Race Face
Even the Next SL's protective boots have been refined, and they now have a lower profile shape that better matches the crank's sleek looks.


Abbey Tools
Abbey Tools' products aren't cheap, but they are made in Bend, Oregon, and built to last a lifetime. This modular bearing press (from $300 USD) works for both headsets and bottom brackets, with different adaptors available to cover a wide range of sizes.
Abbey Tools
This truing stand adaptor ($50) will fit every thru-axle hub design from 15mm all the way up to a 24mm Maverick fork (remember those?).


SixSix One
SixSixOne has a new helmet on the way, the EVO Patrol, that has many of the features found on their EVO AM helmet, including the same amount of vents and a BOA retention system, but at $119 it will retail for $30 less when it hits shelves in September.


SixSix One
SixSixOne are bringing back flat pedal and SPD-compatible versions of their Filter shoe this fall, at $99 and $109 USD respectively. A stickier rubber compound is being used for the sole, and the inside cuff has been raised to protect those ankle bones from crank and frame impacts.



Sea Otter 2016
Both models uses laces, but the SPD version gets a velcro strap at the top of the shoe.


MENTIONS: @ergonbike / @FSA-MTB / @SmithOptics / @raceface / @sixsixone



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100 Comments
  • 214 9
 For 200 bucks those flimsy plastic ass glasses better spot all of the good lines for me
  • 20 109
flag RedBurn (Apr 15, 2016 at 2:10) (Below Threshold)
 Spotting the good lines is the rider's talent !!!
  • 104 1
 I get the £5 safety glasses from the tool shop - I think I look pretty cool...
  • 75 3
 You would think the invention of ass glasses would get more press than just on some mountain biking website. After reading your comment I did a Google search for ass glasses and could not find any more info.
  • 32 1
 @xjohnx77: Look behind you in a full length mirror.......you could be wearing a pair right now and not even realize it.
  • 2 0
 See... I saw those rerubs of the classic Zeros and thought... GIMMY!
  • 14 5
 Flimsy? Have you ever seen an Oakley "crash test"? I haven't had anything other than Oakleys on my face since I bought my first pair in 2007 and I never will.

Btw they manufacture ski goggles with a built in display that does show you all kinds of information so technically they could make bike goggles with the same features. But they cost $650 not $200.
  • 4 5
 I think they look great! I've always been a fan of Oakleys, especially for the lenses quality -- much better than Smith!
  • 7 1
 I'll be honest Oakley and most any sunglass these days are ridiculously priced, but having demo'd with the EVZero as well as the Flak 2.0 XL, you can honestly feel the difference, add in the Prizm Trail lens that they offer and it's beyond expectations, absolutely amazing. We had a rider go down quite hard on a pair of them as well, scuffed the glasses and lens up quite a bit, but they work as advertised and tested; didn't shatter, and protected the riders eyes. I'd recommend them to anyone out riding. 100%.
  • 9 2
 www.youtube.com/watch?v=voUiWOGv8ec
Luxottica makes most of the glasses in the world. Most of them are overpriced. A lot of them aren't even made by the actual company whose brand is on the label. They just license the name to Luxottica, or are just outright owned by them (they own Oakley btw).
  • 2 1
 @GBeard: luxottica make oakley "fashion" frame but not the sport ones.
Btw a pair of fashion frame at luxottica is around 30$ factory price...
  • 2 0
 @alex-bowen: Agree on the Prizm Trail lenses. I've got a pair for my Radarlocks and don't really change lenses anymore.
  • 1 0
 @DrPete: I've tried both the regular and Prizm lenses at the Oakley Shop and the Prizm are just plain amazing: it's like "supervision" for your eyes.
  • 1 0
 @alex-bowen: Did you (or anyone) have a chance to directly compare Prizm Trail lens to Fire Iridium in a forest? I have a custom made Radar with the latter (Prizm lenses were not available when I got it), is it worth upgrading?
  • 1 0
 @Extremmist: I have Fire Iridium lenses in my Airbrake MX goggles and the Prizm wins. Except in very bright conditions the Fire Iridium is just a little darker/flatter than Prizm Trail. Here in the PAC NW the Prizm is far superior because to me it's more versatile in changing conditions, and we have plenty of that here. If you can find a replacement lens I'd give the Prizm a try.
  • 1 0
 @DrPete: You can buy replacement lenses from Oakley, that shouldn't be an issue. But I'll try to sell the Fire iridium first, I don't like owning things I don't use.
  • 2 2
 Still don t understand why I m at -77 props
  • 1 0
 @Extremmist: +1 with what @DrPete said, the Prizm wins, even in variable light conditions the lens allows for your eyes to adjust to the changing light from say going from a fire road into a forest, without being to dark or too bright. Yes in some very bright cases the Fire iridium would be better for reducing the light, but you still wouldn't have the colour enhancement, (the Prizm Trail lens enhances the browns and reds and reduces the grey wash on the greens, and contrast definition making it easier to judge depth perception). The fire Iridium lens in a forest is most likely overkill, it blocks too much light if its not bright enough and you end up not being able to see as much. With Oakley as well you can keep and change your lenses, so i would hold onto your fire iridium for those super bright days. Prizm wins though! Honestly worth upgrading 100%.
  • 1 0
 @alex-bowen: Browns and reds? That's weird, with fire iridium I always saw a boost of contrast in greens and yellow-greens (grass, foliage). How do the trees look like when comparing those two lenses? I usually ride a mix of forests and fire roads.
  • 1 0
 @Extremmist: Yup you bet! Mostly the colours in the dirt to be honest (your browns and reds). The greens are crisper, and clearer, and there's more contrast in the trees. The yellows pretty much stay about the same, i don't know many trails that have yellow dirt Wink These lenses really focus on the trail itself, and being able to pick out subtle details in the dirt, everything else is just an added bonus to be honest. Sounds like I ride similar things, mostly fire roads up to the trails, some clear cut, some densely covered, and then similar on the trails on the way down. I will be 100% buying these for myself when we get them in my shop, I would've bought a pair off the rep at the time but he wouldn't allow it, which is totally fair.
  • 44 5
 At least a couple of those products appear to be aimed at solving problems regular riders didn't even know existed. For instance, hands up if you've ever felt your plastic glasses weighing down unbearably heavily on your nose.
  • 16 1
 Um... I actually have. Should I see a doctor?
  • 16 0
 @LindLTaylor: Only if the feeling lingers for more than 4 hours
  • 30 4
 The Push ElevenSix shock has been promoted as a long term investment as it can be resized to be used on a future frame change. Is there any reason Push won't be able to resize one to the new Metric sizes?
  • 4 1
 i was thinking the same @pushindustries
  • 20 1
 Absolutely. The "Metric" craze is just another shock size for us as all of the "new" features are already found in the current standard size ELEVENSIX.
  • 10 5
 Shock already are metric. Some come in 216mm length. Others in 165mm. There are even sizes between that!
  • 3 1
 @zonoskar: Of course everything can be measured in Metric or Imperial units. That's not what they mean by metric.
  • 1 0
 @PUSH: thanks!
  • 2 0
 @PUSH: How short (eye-eye & stroke), will an ELEVENSIX go?
  • 3 0
 @zonoskar: best ever. laughed
  • 1 0
 @PUSH: Thanks for the reply. I couldn't think of any reason you wouldn't be able to, but wanted to check.
  • 1 0
 @PUSH: So if I switch from a Nomad to a Bronson v2 I could just get my Elevensix modified to fit?
  • 2 0
 @DrPete: yes you can. My buddy asked about going the other direction.
  • 1 0
 @salespunk: If I didn't have to buy new rear hubs I'd consider going for a v2 then... Although my Nomad has kept my face out of the dirt on many occasions. I'll probably just stick with it even though it's overkill for most of my riding. Smile
  • 1 0
 @PUSH: Time for a 222x70 then!! Wink
  • 20 0
 if you're a hospital porter or work in a care home then give 661 a try, ask for their new white filter shoe
  • 1 0
 That pale blue 661 filter... Anyone for golf?
  • 19 5
 I don't get why the majority of new wheelsets are only tailored to 27.5 and 29. I don't mind having more choices I just don't want to be railroaded into a certain size. Some people might want to upgrade their perfectly good 2-4 year old bike rather than having to buy an entire new one. First world problems I guess.
  • 13 1
 The ammendment "Fahrenheit 451" ordered the obliteration of certain standards and wheel sizes...have you been living in a cave ?
  • 9 0
 Welcome to the world of mountain biking....
  • 5 0
 Industry Nine wheel systems as well as the all new NoTubes rims and wheels that were just released are all available in 26" if you're looking for an upgrade.
  • 2 0
 @DavidSA: Although the latest i9 (2017) wheels will only be available in 27.5 and 29, as far as I know: www.bikerumor.com/2016/04/13/industry-nine-rolls-out-wider-enduro-and-ultralite-wheels-plus-centerlock-on-the-road
  • 10 0
 Always thought my current Oakley felt heavy, and I can hardly see the trails through them
  • 11 1
 This is so exciting, all the cool stuff, I feel like it's Christmas and I'm not even getting anything.
  • 12 2
 PUSH Eleven Six.....sexy as F
  • 8 0
 You should feel how it rides. Thing is amazing
  • 2 1
 I've got one on my Nomad, it's unreal!
  • 2 0
 @KUNTHER: theedon only rides 29'er hard tails. Probably couldn't afford one anyway.
  • 1 0
 @jflb: I Love my eleven six Smile
  • 1 0
 If you think it looks good, try riding it. Had a Monarch and a CC DBAir on my Nomad until I got the Elevensix. Not sure how much of it is the superiority of the shock's design or even of the coil spring, or how much is just having something custom made for your bike and riding, but damn, it's nice. I finally know what suspension is supposed to feel like.
  • 7 0
 That Ergon deep relief seat made me feel like I should be drinking some smooth move tea while using it
  • 1 0
 Looking for new saddle, have a wtb silver, tried a crank brothers iodine, way to hard not wide enough, this is looking pretty good. Care to elaborate?
  • 10 2
 I want the glasses and shoes with strap without the clips
  • 12 0
 Was thinking this the other day - where is the unwritten law that SPD shoes get lace protectors but flats get none. Surely they both have laces that are equally likely to come undone and get caught in the drive train?
  • 3 1
 @Status1: I presume maybe the strap is for extra security, stiffness when pulling up on the pedals? (I know you don't really pull 'up') but maybe just a bit more to keep the heels down when mashing out of corners?
  • 1 0
 ^yeah but all those traits could also work well on the flat shoe. I agree with him, makes no sense. Just like when teva was making MTB shoes
  • 1 0
 @Status1: 5.10 Karvers, if you can find any of these left in the world.
  • 2 0
 @Status1: Shimano AM7. Great falt pedal shoe. Light, good traction for walking, and it has lace protectors and a velcro strap.
  • 1 0
 @andnyleswillriot: still have my Tiva MTB shoes. I love those things!
  • 1 0
 397 smackers please.card or cash sir?
  • 2 0
 @Status1 @andnyleswillriot: I think the big thing is the pulling up (which you definitely don't do on flats at all). But Shimano's flat shoes have a full lace protector. I like the lace cover on all mtb shoes for keeping the laces out of places they shouldn't be, but the "stiffness strap" thing I have never felt missing from a good pair of flat shoes (fiveten freeriders, giro jacket)
  • 5 2
 Telemetry device. Can someone explain me the actual usage of that thing? Will it provide valuable data? I'd think that in order to have valuable data one would also need the distance between the rear tyre and ground, so as to be able to reason about percentage of traction compared to shock settings.
  • 6 0
 It measures everything that happens to the shock: position in order to time, speed, among others, but it also includes accelerometers. Using those, and knowing the trail, the engineers can access were the bike is, if it is in contact with the ground, if only one of the wheels is in the air, if the rider is braking, and the speeds and accelerations associated with those movements. only from all this data they can tune the base settings for the shock, such as it's progressivity, how to dimension the low and high speed rebound adn compression... basically, that gives you everything you could possibly want to know
  • 2 0
 Presumably it helps the team quantify the rider's feedback about their suspension and make the appropriate changes without guesswork. Does it dive under braking, where in the stroke does it spend most of its time, how well does it handle high-speed chatter vs individual larger impacts, that kind of thing. It is probably possible to tell whether each wheel is unweighted or floating based on suspension position as well. I want want one, just because I'm a nerd. All it would tell me is that I need to go faster.
  • 3 0
 @ferraz66: pretty spot on.
  • 12 6
 those 661 shoes look awful - bad copy
  • 12 1
 I think they look great. Thanks to any company who embraces subtle over flash. I'll probably try the spd ones.
  • 1 0
 I feel like more could be done with the thru axle adapter... all the widths are known, so why not have a spring loaded latch & detents at 100, 110, 135, 142, 148, 150, & 157? Basically like a Park press has? or even easier, use a smooth shaft & a clutch like a pipe clamp uses?

Abbey usually has well thought out tools, but having to thread/unthread that axle adapter every time you use it seems slow & annoying. I know when I have to use my improvised bearing press(you know, allthread & washers) because my park press is too big, I hate having to spin everything together.
  • 1 0
 Some industrial machines have hubs with a spring-loaded retractable thread follower, so you can depress the lever and slide the hub roughly to position then release and thread tight. Not rocket science. Could easily be applied to bike tech.
  • 1 0
 @skidrumr: indeed, & something you would expect from Abbey, who has a thrust bearing on their full size press. Would be perfect for this application, since it doesn't need to be burly, this isn't load bearing.
  • 1 0
 So who will be the guinea pigs that want to find out how light is too light for carbon cranks? I doubt anyone who was around back in the broken billet crank 90's when so many guys with a CNC machine and some spare time thought they'd use there customers to figure out how light is too light for an alloy crank.
  • 5 1
 Cool
  • 3 0
 661 Looks like they're using the giro factories for their shoes.
  • 1 0
 So much fun riding around all the tents and seeing the gear in person! DH trail here isn't the greatest but boy is the festival something special!
  • 2 0
 Still riding one of "those" Maverick forks! Replacing the main seal this weekend...
  • 1 0
 I'd be interested in trying a pair of those 661 spd shoes if they do a BOA system. The 2fo lites got me spoiled and ruined can't go back to laces now.
  • 1 0
 I hate Boa on all but my road shoes! You and I have opposite shoe tastes haha
  • 1 0
 @trialsracer: oh wow, none of my road shoes use BOA, maybe im thankful for that haha, I don't want to hate it.
  • 2 1
 I was a fan of Oakley until I crashed one day breaking the molded plastic arm. Turns out they won't sell me just that piece and I have to buy all new frames...
  • 1 0
 honest to god i've had a bullshit overload reading the first advertisement... after which i stopped to write this. Jobs for the boys ey butt
  • 5 3
 Ev zeros are the ugliest glasses I've ever seen
  • 27 2
 You're too young to remember the M Frames I see.
  • 16 0
 And you've clearly never seen googlie eyes glasses on springs
  • 6 0
 I think they are awesome remake of the Oakley Sub Zeros of the nineties. Anyone who liked Subzeros is going to want these, I know I do!
  • 1 0
 even better with different colour lenses Wink
  • 2 1
 EV Zero are listed as golf sunglasses on oakley website. May be too flimsy to wear on a bike.
  • 1 0
 The "Golf" listing is just referring to the Prizm Golf lens. You were just looking at the option of buying with the golf lens. There are lots of different Prizm choices depending on your application.
  • 1 1
 That carbon fibre spider scares the crap out of me! Honestly why bother! I bet that isnt warranted for a lifetime. 30 seconds more like!
  • 1 0
 Why would it scare you any more than non direct mount carbon crank with a carbon spider?
  • 4 0
 @DandelionDan: Matt76 has an irrational hatred for all composite products, but in this case, as in most, alternative aluminum products do exist and will continue to exist so I don't know what he really has to be moaning about.
  • 1 0
 There is squid ink spaghetti all over that frame and shock, whhhaaaaaaaattt?
  • 3 1
 Cool+1
  • 4 4
 Deep relief channels. AKA, CCC, cock comfort control. The new must have for 2016!
  • 1 0
 Still waiting for Transition's announcement of a Carbon Smuggler Big Grin
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