Spotted: Jared Graves' Yeti SB6c Prototype

Jul 24, 2014 at 18:49
by Mike Kazimer  
Jared Graves SB6c

Yeti Cycles recently released their SB5c trail bike, but many riders were left wondering where a longer travel, SB66 replacement was. The answer? It's coming. Jared Graves will be racing a stealth looking 27.5" wheeled prototype at the fifth stop of the Enduro World Series this weekend in Winter Park, Colorado, not far from Yeti's headquarters. The new bike's suspension configuration is the same as that found on the SB5c, using the Switch Infinity system for its 157mm of travel.

In case you missed it in our review of the SB5c, here's the rundown of how the bike's rear suspension works: The suspension design relies on two Kashima coated rails to control the bike's wheel path, and initially, as the bike goes through its travel the carrier moves upwards, giving the bike a rearward axle path for improved pedaling and small bump absorption. As the rear wheel goes deeper into its travel the mechanism moves downwards, reducing the amount of chain tension for better big hit performance. The size of the Switch Infinity system on the bike Graves will be riding is exactly the same as what's on the SB5c, but the amount the mechanism travels is slightly different, with about .5mm more upwards and 1.5mm more downwards movement according to Yeti's design engineer Peter Zawistowski. The top tube on Graves' prototype has a more pronounced downward slope than what's found on the SB5 for better standover clearance and maneuverability, and is lacking the carbon brace that runs between the seat and top tube on the shorter travel bike. The rear swingarm looks to be beefier than that of the SB5c in order to deal with the warp speeds that riders like Graves will be trying to achieve aboard the bike. Yeti hasn't officially released any geometry numbers, but it'd be reasonable to expect that the head tube angle is in the 65-66° range with a 160mm fork.

Jared Graves Yeti SB prototype
A closer look at the heart of the Switch Infinity system.

The unique look of the Switch Infinity system has been causing quite a stir, with much of the commotion being raised by riders who apparently spend the majority of their riding time slogging through mud that has the consistency of a fresh batch of concrete. The truth is, very little maintenance is necessary to keep the system running smoothly, and a hose down and a squirt of grease every once in a while is all that's required for trouble free performance. Since the carrier only needs to move 4 or so millimeters in either direction, the chainstays provide plenty of leverage to overcome any amount of slop that makes its way in. Yeti did test different covers during the development of the system, but found that they tended to trap the mud and grit rather than allowing it to pass through, which is why they ended up leaving it open on both sides.


Jared Graves Yeti SB prototype

Component Check
Graves has his bike set up with Fox's new 36 FLOAT in the front, and a FLOAT X handles the rear suspension duties. The Winter Park course is fast and hardpacked, so a Maxxis Minion DHR II front tire has been paired up with a low profile Ikon in the rear. Although 11 speed Shimano XTR drivetrains are slowly trickling out, Graves is still on a 10 speed set up, with an e*thirteen LG1 chainguide in place for extra security. XTR brake levers and Saint calipers are mounted on a Renthal carbon bar, and should provide plenty of stopping power if Graves decides to use them, but with only a 30 point lead above Damien Oton for the overall in the Enduro World Series you can bet he'll be grabbing them as little as possible.

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188 Comments
  • 96 5
 I finally narrowed my search for my next bike down to a Mach 6 and a Nomad. Now Yeti has to go and confuse me...
  • 147 3
 First world problems...
  • 65 2
 Yup. Very fortunate to have this "problem." Means I don't have a lot of real ones.
  • 71 6
 you will have to make a grave decision!
  • 22 45
flag kleinblake (Jul 24, 2014 at 19:43) (Below Threshold)
 Don't get a pivot. There, nomad or yeti (I would go nomad)
  • 7 2
 I'm pretty tall (6'2, 35" cycling inseam) and people have warned me about the slack STA on the Pivot. Nomad is still in the lead. And of course I can't find anyone who has an XL demo of any of these so I'll pretty much be guessing.
  • 4 0
 I love my Nomad but the Yeti intriguing.
  • 2 7
flag jrocksdh (Jul 24, 2014 at 20:39) (Below Threshold)
 Mach 6 doesn't climb too well. Requires a lot of body english ovr the front. Slash is a sprightly climber. The new nomad climbs good, but sc run small. 2015 is gna be great for buyers!
  • 13 25
flag brownstone (Jul 24, 2014 at 20:50) (Below Threshold)
 maybe the new Reign should be added to that list as well, I'd hate to have to get the new yeti shocks serviced...
  • 7 4
 DrPete, I did have this dilemma a couple of years ago with the SB66 but opted for the S-Works Enduro......haven't looked back but I'm softening to the SB6c....

Still would prefer a 26" though.... Frown
  • 5 9
flag chyu (Jul 24, 2014 at 21:27) (Below Threshold)
 You guys should get the rare branded 26" posted week ago.
  • 14 0
 @Jrocksdk.. 2016 will be even better for used bike buyers!
  • 4 3
 I would definitly recomend a nomad i loooove mine! So playfullSmile
  • 14 7
 Must be hard to sleep with all that confusion and money.
  • 11 10
 Looking fwd to those winning margins growing thanks to the faster wheels and kashima switch. I think his 26"wheels were really holding Graves back. For all the teeny-bit-bigger wheel (TBBW) naysayers, watch out for Graves. But that's not all, if you think only pro's benefit, think again - as a non-pro, not very good rider (NVGR), you need all the help you can get and a TBBW can give you that kick in the ass you need to beat some other NVGR's. Believe it.
  • 24 3
 Press-Fit Bottom Bracket is a deal breaker for me. My next bike will have a threaded BB.
  • 6 0
 axleworthington, for me, it's not a deal breaker, as there is a lot more to a bike, but I will admit my extreme dissapointment in that decision. I want an explanation!!!

headshot, as a NVGR, I'm in your camp. Give me anything that helps me keep up with my fellow pretty-good-riders (PGR's).
  • 5 3
 For all The 26ers out there, thankfully 26" will fit in any 650b frame... Even if it doesn't make a Lot sense. If you love your wheels so much than just stick with it. Or just get a banshee they have changeable dropouts for 26/650b. Or you jump on a 650b bike and try it under real life conditions.

Happy to See yeti creating a new machine for racing.
  • 4 3
 Putting a smaller, or bigger wheel on a bike that's designed for a specific wheel is never a good idea. The geometry difference for similar handling bikes of different wheels sizes is so different that it doesn't make sense to slap a smaller wheel on a bigger bike.
  • 7 4
 Mach 6 climbs great. Body English over the front = you are going fast enough / trying hard enough to deserve a mach 6
  • 4 0
 " ...I'd hate to have to get the new yeti shocks serviced..."

@ brownstone: It's not a shock, it's a rail system, to guide the travel of the rear wheel travel path. The shock is mounted on the front of the swingarm and connected to the downtube. Besides, I would guess that the rail system could be maintained by a FOX service tech: Kashima rails with bushings on the sliders and maybe some FOX dust wipers on the edges to keep the crap out.
  • 2 0
 I think a few PB pimplies need a sense of humour adjustment. Just sayin.
  • 2 0
 Yes sir, you might be right.
  • 3 3
 They got ride of the alloy threaded bb to save weight and remove as many alloy/carbon bonded surfaces. Kinda lame but SRAM and Shimano have adapters that work really well if you want to run a threaded bb and crank. Don't let that make your final decision until you ride one and see how awesome they are!!
  • 1 0
 HubDirtrider do you speak from experience? If so what combo's have you tried? I've Only tried a 26 and suspension on a 24" BMX. Felt much better with the slacker HA and a bit of squish. Dunno about a smaller wheel on the back but it used to be common. Was thinking of running a 650b fork if they stop making 26. Probably keep the 26 wheels though. The offset might track weird but you never know.
  • 2 0
 Ha, and Graves dominates, with Rude, also on TBBW's killing it as well. Or maybe its just the switch suspension tech, or maybe, just maybe they are just superb riders...
  • 51 6
 Aren't all Yetis prototypes?
  • 11 43
flag gnarbar (Jul 24, 2014 at 21:16) (Below Threshold)
 stop it. your making yourself look stupid
  • 2 0
 you may have point there....
  • 4 0
 How many prototypes are already carbon? Alloy, sure it's probably a prototype. Carbon, more than likely it's what's gonna end up on showroom.
  • 2 1
 They can still change things on the links. For the rest it'll be more difficult indeed

Protot-hype?
  • 3 0
 @ gnarbar:

irony.

Google it.
  • 26 0
 I for one love that they are sticking to the design lines of the SB66c, which is one of the most balanced and fluid frame designs I've seen.
  • 3 1
 Very true. I was hoping Yeti would make this exact bike. Love Yeti geo, and the SB-66 was an all-time great. One of the best - and best looking - bikes of the last decade. Too bad it came out right before the great wheel size revolution. Hope they release it soon.
  • 30 9
 The party is over boys! The last hold out has gone to 650b!
  • 50 3
 Kona is still offering 26" wheels at least
  • 11 1
 @riggadon You are correct ,good for Kona. Scott voltage and gambler are 26" compatible .
  • 30 3
 Evil still has their 26" bike. haha.
  • 8 2
 I think specialized was the last hold out, they may have released their 650b stumpys earlier, but I bet they spent way less time in development i.e. 29er front triangles
  • 8 2
 The slayer is still 26
  • 197 4
 I rode my bike today. It was fun.
  • 2 0
 @shredjekyll. Lets hope they keep the Slayer ,its a great bike.
  • 16 7
 I rode my bike too, it was a 26er also fun.
  • 11 1
 Commencal's Meta SX, Meta Hip Hop, and Meta 4X are all all 26". Transition still does the Covert, both carbon and aluminum in 26" (along side the Covert 27.5), at least that's what their website says. Banshee makes 9 different bikes, 3 of which are dedicated 26" bikes, and 3 others can be run either 26" or 650B. Ventana still does the El Saltamontes and the El Ciclon which are both 26".
  • 26 3
 its weird that they are called 26ers now, i remember the day they used to be called... bikes
  • 15 0
 Knolly is making bikes Wink
  • 5 0
 Dartmoor also.
  • 4 1
 @noxxie, I know what you mean. It probably shouldn't, but it's always kind of irritated me when something already has a well established name, and people feel the need to call it something else for whatever reason. A 26" bike will never be a 26er to me, nor will I ever refer to a 650B bike as 27.5", unless 27.5 is part of a bike's model name. Even so it'd be in this fashion, "The Covert 27.5 has 650B wheels". In fact, I think I'm going to stop calling 29ers by that name and refer to them as being a 700C bike, because that is what they actually are. They are exactly the same bead diameter as a road bike rim, just wider. Anyway, sorry for ranting a bit, I guess I'm just cranky because I can't sleep.
  • 16 3
 According to logic of folks like deeeight, if the wheel size superiority theories were to be true, Graves should now score 3-5 minute lead on every stage thanks to changing to 27.5 wheels.
  • 7 2
 haha! yeah, no doubt! ive just been on another article reading some guys hashing it out over how plasti dip adds a ton of weight (a couple of grams).

people need to realise, that 27.5, 29er, "bike" (haha) they aren't that much faster, in fact to the average guy the wheels size makes almost zero difference to your speed, (the speed that most people arent even timing anyway). yeah its shave seconds off when your at a pro level with a bike thats built to last only a few races. on the trail, nobody cares.

the wheel size argument bothers people so much you'd think they were talking about dick size
  • 4 1
 The party is over for gravesy because they simply stopped serving his drink of choice but the professional AND serious partyer he is, any new beverage introduced he can easily continue to party hard with. Party on Jared.
  • 8 0
 He could ride a dead goat and still win
  • 4 0
 it's what i meant. ..graves>wheel size
  • 3 1
 people are talking about dick size. They're just uncomfortable about their sexuality, therefore require to apply the analogous of the 'wheel' size :o)
  • 8 3
 Everything changes and nothing stays the same. That is what life is about. Ride what you have, push your limits and stop whining about shit you can't control.
  • 3 1
 Captain Snappy - your message is as simple as it is wise, but only when one can live up to it Smile But this sums up 99,9999% of arguments on the internet
  • 3 5
 It would be rather funny if graves starts losing positions on a 275 compared to his 'bike'
  • 3 1
 Mmmm real funny watching somebody loose..... real funny.
  • 1 0
 Hammm, I think you overlooking the fact that spectating any form of competition involves watching winners and loosers, so I don't unerstand why you are being so serious on Lurch-ECD. What do you do when a looser comes along? You turn your eyes away?
  • 2 0
 Yes competition involves the nature of winning and loosing. There is absolutely no denying that. However, i find it a little superficial to think that someone would find it "funny" to see somebody to loose due to an increase of 38mm in the diameter of their wheel. Graves has proved he can ride any wheel size; 26", 29" (Australian National XC) and I think i have even seen him rock a 24" rear. Why would anybody want to see jared do bad? Does Lurch-ECD have some personal grovels with graves? Is he a fellow competitor? Is he jealous?
I think we just need to be stoked that each and every rider keep mtb alive - win or loose.
When a looser comes along do i turn my eyes? heck no, they were out there having ago at the sport i love.
  • 1 0
 Ahhh 25mm not 38mm
  • 1 0
 Hammm - that is the second biggest argument of wheel size theory buyers - race results. After "customer demand" off course. I guess that is why people find it funny, and I think that is a quite innocent cynicism.
  • 3 1
 Wait...you mean it hasn't been about dick size? ...looks like I have some comments to delete...
  • 3 0
 anyone want to eat any words after looking at EWS results? Seems 650b Yeti is faster....
  • 2 0
 bro its not 650 yeti that is faster its "switch infinity" Yeti that is faster.. switch infinity all the things
  • 1 2
 Switch infinity makes your dick faster don't tell the wife when you order one.
  • 1 1
 So now you guys are telling me it's about dick speed...great. Next it's going to be all about shape. Some yahoo is going to make a curved design that all the girls and guys are going to want to sit on.
  • 2 1
 hum... now I have a 26" tire tube flat. back out to ride after food stuff is eaten.
  • 16 1
 Six Yeti bike / rider stories in just over a week?? That's gotta be a record for brand exposure on here.....
  • 2 5
 Yeah kind of annoying. That's why I look at Canfield and Knolly for my new fix. Also the chewed jelly bean look of yeti and sc already looks boring.
  • 8 0
 Jared,
Thank you! You rocked the DH on your 66c. You rocked the Aussie XC National on a 29er ARC. You are proof that yes the bike matters but not as much as the rider! So stoked for the SB6c. With you and @yeticycles working on this together, we know it will be nothing short of perfect.

Good luck!!!
  • 3 2
 The rear dropout/brake mount is pure sex.

Go on Gravesy son!
  • 7 2
 Why do so many pro mechanics seem to clamp bikes by the dropper? Not the first pic I've seen of a bike in the pits like that. I was always told to extend the seatpost and clamp below the portion that drops. Is it just cause they are in a hurry in race pits and know that the dropper will be replaced/rebuilt for a sponsored athlete soon enough anyway?
  • 2 0
 You will notice that they put a split grip around the sliding part of the dropper. That's something that many mechanics do to avoid having to move the whole seatpost and it works very well.
  • 4 1
 Because they're pro, and it's sponsored. So if something break to replacement is already there somewhere in the box.
  • 11 0
 I've been clamping these bikes by the exposed section of dropper post's for a few years now, and never once had a problem. I understand all of the relevant owners manuals advise against it, but when you have only a few minutes to get the bikes ready, i'm not raising the seat to clamp the post. Add to that the internal cable routing, which can come unstuck or snagged when moving the post, and it means a few less things for me to worry about when getting the bikes ready. Just because they are pro and sponsored, doesn't mean there are seatposts to burn. The Fox and Thomson posts that the team uses are very reliable and i haven't had any major issues to report. Also, the Yeti team has a great partnership with Feedback work stands, and they clamp very evenly around the post, so no problems squashing or marking the posts either.
  • 1 0
 ^ Agree.

I put a clean rag in the jaws and clamp the stanchions. No problems any of three different droppers so far over two years. I wouldn't clamp a muddy stanchion.
  • 1 0
 For minor tuning, I just hang it by the saddle on top of the clamp. Not as stable but also not a problem.
  • 1 0
 Good to know... I use a feedback work stand too. I'll probably still extend the post and clamp the fixed portion of the post when doing anything extensive that involves hard pressure on wrenches etc. (I'm sure they don't put it in the user's manual purely to be annoying) but I might just clamp the exposed section for quick clean/lube/adjustment type jobs without freaking out in the future.
  • 4 0
 I actually asked KS this, and their official response is: Clamp it on the dropper stanchion. They themselves do it all the time and it causes no damage (assuming your clamp doesn't scratch the metal).
  • 5 0
 Please please please please can they put a proper BB shell on the thing and not one of those PressFit things...

2 Years riding a Specialized with PF30... new BB every 2 months

2 Years riding an SB66c Just replaced the BB (cos I was bored rather than it was causing any problems)

To say that having a REAL BB is a deciding factor for a 6ft 3 tall 100KG plus rider is an understatement... With my weight a press fit system is ALWAYS gonna move no matter how tight the tolerances...

Yeti I beg you to do the right thing... please! I bought the SB66c on the basis of the BB over other brands, don't mess it up now
  • 2 0
 Buy a hope press fit bb, job jobbed.
  • 2 0
 Have to admit, the press fit bb was a real downer when I saw that was their choice. Do they use it on other on other trail bikes? I'm thinking "how could they "cheap out" on a $10k bike? Well, maybe they know what their doing, maybe it's because of clearance issues, I dunno, but I'd love to hear what their justification is/was.
  • 3 0
 I have a 2008 zesty with the factory pf bb still in it. Not a single problem or creak. The main problem is people not knowing how to install them. As simple as that.
  • 1 0
 Maybe they've improved over the last 2 years... but the SRAM ones I was installing were truly shocking fit... I did think it was me being a muppet fitting them, but got a respected mechanic to fit and still had issues. My main point is that they are probably fine for a 70kilo XC dude, but for a 100kilo guy like me pressing down on the pedals through a few choice hits and heavy landings they shift slightly, and then the bearings eat themselves...
  • 1 0
 I have had PF's on all my bikes, besides a seasonal overhaul which is a piece of cake no issues, but I do like me some threaded.
  • 2 0
 Yeti's reason for running the press fit is that it increases durability of the frame around the bottom bracket. By not having to add an aluminum insert that can crack the carbon around it, the frame will last longer.

And they tell you to get a bottom bracket adapter that threads into itself (so it's easy to install) and allow you to run threaded bottom brackets.

Best of both worlds really, although it would be nice if they included the adapter by default.
  • 1 0
 Yeah the Hope BB is the nuts.. You need the fitting tool . I hated pressfit as I'm a big lad.
  • 2 0
 Buy a new Nomad, SC was smart enough to use a threaded BB
  • 2 0
 all the sc bikes come with a threded bb instead of gay press fit
  • 3 0
 if I had a wish with Yeti... When you scale this bike up to the XL, which i will buy, please don't make the head tube as long as on the sb66c XL. Same height as on the Large would be great Smile

thanks!

Best Regards,
a 6'4" rider...
  • 6 0
 So dope. Let's see if he gains the 2 seconds per stage.
  • 6 0
 Hopefully, that will make the SB66c price drop even more… Smile
  • 2 0
 For those concerned about maintenance: www.ridefox.com/help.php?m=bike&id=465

Service Intervals
Dry/Dusty Conditions 75-100 hours
Excessive Mud, Dust, or Frequent Washing 25-50 hours
Minimum Service Interval* 10-15 hours

"The only service to perform on the mechanism is to keep the exterior clean and to re-grease."
  • 7 1
 This bike f@ckin rocks.
  • 5 3
 I was amazed they supported the whole weight of his bike by his dropper. I'm afraid to hook my seat and just support some my bikes weight with dropper. Course I don't have his backing either. Awesome bike though.
  • 10 3
 Really...? I'm pretty sure if you're dropper can deal with your 60/70/90kg self sitting on it, it's hardly going to have a problem with 15kg of bike.....
  • 5 9
flag gshep (Jul 24, 2014 at 20:09) (Below Threshold)
 Cool, being one of three guys who pointed that out I guess its ok you singled me out.
Hanging a weight as opposed to supporting a weight are two different things. But I guess its ok since we see it done all the time.
Do you have a dropper post? And know they can be balky and temperamental ? Have a nice day.
  • 2 1
 It will hold the weight, but that is a good way to thrash your stanchion.
  • 1 0
 But i just realized that they have a cover around the stanchion so its all good, but personally i would rather just lift up the seatpost.
  • 5 0
 For a mechanical post that uses a pin (like Gravity Dropper) or collet (like Command Post) it is exactly the same mechanism bearing in compression the weight of the rider, or in tension the weight of the bike hanging from the saddle. The post doesn't care.

Also, if your workstand jaws are clean and you aren't a gorrila, you can clamp your dropper stanchion many times and not damage it. On the other hand, there are setups across several brands, both external and internal, that because of cable length and cable routing are way easy to F up by exposing more post to a clampable length.

Droppers are expensive and can seem to behave tempermentally, but the superstition surrounding them is helping nobody.
  • 3 0
 I don't see any problems with just clamping the top tube, provided your shock mounting is out the way. That's what I do anyway
  • 1 0
 So frame tubes are often not very resistant to denting, so be careful with that, it's one of the reasons companies tell you not to do it.

@gshep So I believe that the stand they're using here is the same one I saw at a Santa Cruz demo a month or so ago. It has jaws that are specifically designed not to mar droppers. The SC demo guy I asked about it had spent his own money on the stand, just because it made his life so much easier.

If you're considering a dropper, but are concerned about reliability, there was an ask Pink Bike a few weeks ago that talked about this, their recommendation was the Fox dropper, because the internals are designed in a way that emphasizes durability.

I have no complaints about mine. If that's too rich for your blood however, the Gravity Dropper & Specialized Command Post also use mechanisms that enhance reliability over a oil-valve based post(which is how essentially every other post functions.)
  • 2 0
 Muy thanks groghunter, snfoilhat. Didn't mean to jack the thread. KOM Graves much propage. I have a Kindshock LEV on my trailbike and it hasn't been as set it and forget it as I would have liked is all.
  • 2 0
 The only issue I've had with my Fox since I got it was that it needed a little air added after 8 months(It wasn't returning all the way to the top reliably) and I didn't even check the pressure before I installed it.
  • 2 0
 Is that a Minion/Ikon combo he's running? I love both but never thought about putting the two together...either way the dude is fast and could probably win on steel bead WTBs
  • 1 0
 Minion dh rear tire on the front aye...interesting.
  • 3 1
 I haven't tried the DHR + Ikon combo, but the Minion DHF + Ikon is a blast on hardpacked, summertime trail conditions. The Ikon has a surprising amount of grip for how little tread it has.
  • 1 1
 The DHR2 is a great front tire. Really, it is very common to see DHR2 tires front and rear on a DH bikes.
  • 1 1
 The rumor I'd always heard was that DHF & DHR don't actually stand for "front & rear" but rather "flat & ramped." Because I live someplace that's dry all the time, and I wanted a tire that still had some grip while rolling fast, my preferred combo when I rode DH often was DHR & Highroller, the Highroller being a 60a for longevity. Never had any problems with grip, rode that combo at Winter Park, in fact.
  • 1 1
 "DHFreeride" and "DHRace"
  • 3 0
 I've never owned a yeti but this looks like it has the potental to be the best all around mtb ever built. Hope to get in a demo!!
  • 3 3
 Canfield the one is best all round
  • 1 1
 Canfield doesn't make The One anymore. They reintroduced the Balance as a more AM style bike. Check it out.
  • 2 1
 Did i spot that right, is there a possibility to run a front derailleur? I know it's very uncool and non-enduro, but I like mine...

What surprises me is the very low number of people (almost nobody) who write that that switch infinity thing looks rather ugly. I think it does, really.
  • 1 0
 It's going to have a removable front derailleru mount (confirmed by a Yeti representative on mtbr), so yes - you will be able to mount a fron derailleur.
  • 4 1
 Can I trade a case of whiskey & 6 burritos ?...OK I may stretch to 7 burritos.
  • 1 0
 So much to comment on (including how bad ass it is that Jerrod replied directly about wheel size) but will just say it's shocking how small his brake rotors are.
  • 1 0
 Do you think he actually uses brakes? Wink
  • 3 0
 My next bike!(fingers crossed)
  • 4 1
 Reminds me of the old Kona bikes...with the extra shock thingy
  • 2 2
 My 2009 Giant trance X is 26" and still so sick! Just got back from Tahoe and it tamed every trail i rode, from 30" foot tables to the steepest climbs it kept on going. only limitation was my lungs at 9000' elevation.
  • 3 1
 My fanny pack is SO rad!
  • 2 0
 Oh yah, i was smiling ear to ear the whole time. Isn't that what really matters?
  • 1 0
 So now the big question: what's that seat angle? Head angles can be easily modified nowadays. But seat angles? Tell me it's steeeeeeeeep!
  • 2 3
 Did i spot that right, is there a possibility to run a front derailleur? I know it's very uncool and non-enduro, but I like mine...

What surprises me is the very low number of people (almost nobody) who write that that switch infinity thing looks rather ugly. I think it does, really.
  • 1 2
 Did i spot that right, is there a possibility to run a front derailleur? I know it's very uncool and non-enduro, but I like mine...

What surprises me is the very low number of people (almost nobody) who write that that switch infinity thing looks rather ugly. I think it does, really.
  • 1 1
 But where is the shock for the shock that supports the shock? I may be getting old but I prefer simplistic suspension.
Maybe bikes will evolve like mens razors, first 1 blade then 2, then 4, then 6, then 12....
  • 3 0
 I guess by now you've figured out that those aren't shocks? They're basically just sliders.
  • 6 5
 I thought graves would be the savior of the 26er by winning the EWS on the sb66 but I guess that dream is over
  • 6 5
 arh, graves has finally gone to the dark side (650b), at least that kick ass shock makes up for it
  • 7 5
 I'm not entirely sure that was his choice versus Yeti's.....
  • 83 2
 ill say this just once, (not having a go at you Idaho, I just know this will come up, so im getting in early) it was entirely my choice to be on 27.5. I have always been careful to not make any comments about still being on 26 inch wheels, or eventually going to 27.5. I never rode the 66c with 26 inch wheels because I thought it was faster. I never wanted to be the so called "poster boy" for 26 inch wheels in enduro racing. 27.5 is proven faster, no marketing BS. I would have been on 27.5 earlier if this bike was available to me earlier. Sorry to let some people down. I love 26 and will always have 26 inch bikes in my stable. But when it comes to racing, I want to be on the fastest equipment available to me.
  • 18 2
 Amazing to have a pro weigh in on a (ridiculous) debate that has seen so many people (as evidenced above) putting words into their mouths about what they do (or do not) like/want/told to ride. Good luck this weekend Jared, stoked to hear reports on the bike! Also super stoked to race with you at the Can. Open Enduro in a couple weeks in Whistler (although, I'll be in the Masters 30+ cat, and oh... about 2 hours behind your time!).
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 I'm just trying to party with Jared and that sweet bike.
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 Jared we all apreciate your time in this forums, comming from a soccer country(Mexico) It feels like Messi is answering questions for soccer fans, this is the best marketing Yeti can have, pros in direct contact with amateurs like all us Smile , I really apreciate this, good luck Jared Im Yeti sold!!

sorry for my english is not my native language Smile
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 Owned by Jared Graves himself. Don't see that very often.
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 Hasn't there been a 27.5 SB for a little while now?
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flag ride-the-redwoods (Jul 24, 2014 at 22:36) (Below Threshold)
 Really, Jared??? Because this is what you wrote: "Frame: YETI Sb66c medium (yes, still 26 inch wheels)" in your EWS Journal for Race 1 in Nevados de Chillan.

Here's the link: www.pinkbike.com/news/rider-journal-ews-1-nevados-de-chilln-jared-graves-2014.html

Haha, sorry I just had to Big Grin ......
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 Think it was supposed to say "I only rode the 66c with 26 inch wheels because I thought it was faster"..... That's how I read it anyway?
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 Jared,

I surely do appreciate the direct reply! It was not intended as a jab at you in any way. It seems with pro riders in general, it's often hard to get a genuine truth about their opinions on bikes/wheel sizes as they often are riding what the company gives them without much of a say in it and then naturally jumping behind it as that's what their sponsor wants.

I picked up a SB66C on clearance and couldn't be happier with it, though I'll jump on a chance to demo any switch infinity platform when they become available!

Thanks again for being on the website like this and also for your EWS write-ups. They are a great read and have awesome pictures as well. Good luck this weekend in Colorado and for the rest of the EWS races!
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 Comments, probably as in the comments section... Not in the article.
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 No. He's saying he didn't ride the SB66 because he thought it was faster than a 27.5 he rode it because he had no other choice !!!!
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 RESPECT! JG
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 More Like Sbsexy
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 That is one clean, sexy bike.
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 hopefully this and the new ibis will hit the market around the same time.
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 this bike is going to be fast as fuck. i owned an sb66c and it made me almost die repeatedly. WARP SPEED MACH 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FART. NUKE EM BRO
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 I love my SB66. It impresses me every time I ride. Yeti has there $hit figured out. This will most likely be me next bike.
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 Those are some sweet decals on that float x
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 to be honest i dont really care about wheel size. if its strong and looks good then itl do
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 I hate the switch infinity system: it seems far too awesome.
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 where can i download an order form?
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 Its gunna be hard to compare Graves on his new proto type compared to the SB 66 as the wheels are different sizes ! I think if he is faster on this new proto its just from the wheel size ... Kinda ugly mud catching gap , but hey if it performs that well Im sure a couple of carbon shrouds while shut me up ! Jared Graves you make any bike look fast
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 I think you're luck Jared is racing, comments like that woke the sleeping bear in him on the press release so he was laying down the law on the new bike. Was quite funny to read but he said there were no problems with the mud build up and subsequent wear. Hope his results are good on it to prove his points.
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 Hey crf-999, would you rather I owe you the SB5c, or this bike? Smile
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 I will have either so long some of Jared Graves' skill has rubbed off on the carbon molds of the production model .... I need all the help I can get :-)
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 It's not like it's hiding from the public.
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 Looks good, and finally a stealth routing for the post
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 I like seeing Saint brakes on trail bikes!
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 Mondraker Foxy XR Carbone, all you need guys at a snip
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 The bike is looking sweet! Love the throwback fox decals.
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 Was there ever a picture ofJared with a SB66 and a Fox 40?
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 Tell me if I'm wrong but the Switch Infinity system shortens the overall wheelbase of the bike on the big hits (when you need stability), right?
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 That's what happens with every other bike when your fork and shock compresses. So where is the problem ?
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 One of the purpose of a rearward axle path is to keep the same wheelbase as the bike goes through its travel, to maintain stability or even increase it for big hits. I don't get why it should go forward at the end of the travel (beyond the reduction of "chain tension"). Maybe someone here can explain.
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 Have you ever seen a picture of a DH bike fully compressed ? You really think the wheelbase is still the same ?

www.google.com/search?q=full+squish+dh+bike&hl=fr&gbv=2&tbm=isch&oq=&gs_l
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 Maybe I shouldn't reply but : indeed most bikes have a forward rear axle path, that's why the wheelbase decreases through the travel. However, some other bikes (Zerode or K9 DH001-S for ex) have a rearward axle path which allow it to keep a descent wheelbase on big hits. My question is : why is Yeti keeping the rearward axle path for small and medium hits only ?
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 So, most bikes that have a rearward axle path actually have an axle path that describes an S in space, because A: as you move through the travel, the amount of chainstay growth needed to keep the rear wheel moving backwards becomes unmanageable, and B: because when you get a lot of rearward path, the bike starts to feel really weird in corners that compress the suspension. I think it was on here that somebody described riding that RedAlp monstrosity as "trying to ride a giraffe" because of how the wheelbase would grow too much in hard corners.
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 @PoussMouss

In technical terms, here is your answer.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAKG-kbKeIo
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 Thanks for your technical explaination. Keep it up !
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 PoussMouss, I am glad you are a good-sport about it. I thought it would be funny. I guess I was a bit of a jerk.

Forward axle path, at the end of the compression stroke, is used to overcome spring rate ramp-up of air shocks. This has been a typical design of most bikes with air-sprung shocks for a really long time. A lot of rearward axle path is also not typical on most trail or all mountain bikes due to the affect on peddling performance (pedal feedback).

S'il vous plaît excuser ma réponse grossier. Paix mon frère.
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 take my money!!!!!!!!
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 Glad graves is on 650b. It's definitely my favorite wheel size
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 OOOOHHHHHHHH YOU SEXY SEXY BITCH!!!!!!!!!
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 Anyone else noticed the Fox DOSS has stealth routing?
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 It's actually a Thomson Elite Covert Post.
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 Ah fair enough, thanks
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 Any body else notice that the bike stand is attached to the stanchion of the dropper post? Thought that was a major repair no no. But I'm guessing that was a professional mechanic that put it up there. Any body smarter than me on this one that could shed some light on possible scratching post and or blowing the seal by hanging it by seat (all my reverbs). Thanks
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 I'm 200lb+ and my thomson dropper doesn't budge if I 'forget' to drop it and case a jump, so I think hanging a 28lb bike off it should be fine! The bike stands have nice sponging gripper things so they won't leave a mark too!

I too was all set to buy a SB66c, then the nomad came out but I've always had a soft spot for Yeti and Graves is a legend...so the SB6c it has to be!!

0% finance is the route of all evil! Mwaa haa haa haa haaaaa!...
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