Pinkbike Poll: Do You Ride At Night?

Nov 12, 2015 at 18:14
by Mike Kazimer  
The short days and long nights have officially arrived in the northern hemisphere, leaving riders with little choice but to dig out the lights if they want to get in an after work ride. Luckily, today's lights weigh less, burn longer and are relatively affordable, a huge improvement over the old school systems that required a massive battery held in a water bottle cage, and had frustratingly short run times.

All the same, night riding isn't everybody's cup of tea. For one thing, even if you're running a gazillion lumens on your handlebar and helmet, it's still dark everywhere except where those lights are pointing. That means the cracking of a branch or rustle of dry leaves sounds like a Bigfoot in search of a midnight snack, making solo night rides a perfect way to find out just how fast your heart can race. And the cold is a fast friend with the dark, which makes it even harder to muster up the motivation to leave a warm and cozy home.


Kelend Hawks
Rider: Kelend Hawks. Photo: Javi Vega


On the other hand, night riding is a great way to breathe new life into trails you've ridden a thousand times. The shadows and artificial white light makes everything look different, and even mellower trails can become challenging once the sun sets. Plus there's a sense of satisfaction that riding after dark brings – it almost feels like you're breaking the rules, sneaking around on a secret singletrack mission. A good group of friends also makes it easier to brave the darkness, and that way there will be a witness or three should you miss a turn and go tumbling head over heals into the bush.

If you've never been on a night ride, it's certainly worth a try - borrow some lights, convince some buddies to join you, and get out there. At the very least, it's world's better than sitting on the couch watching reruns, or spinning away on a trainer in a stuffy room.


How many times a year do you ride at night?



What's your night riding set up like?



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171 Comments
  • 121 1
 It's the only way for me to get riding on weekdays in the winter.
  • 38 0
 The night time is the right time
  • 4 1
 Set up lights at the jumps every once and a while as you will see in the Keep it Real movie
  • 10 2
 No it's not you liar. You're a bloody student.
  • 5 0
 @fredgrillet touché - but when it gets dark at 4 pm, not even being a student is much help.
  • 5 0
 Come to northeastern Canada! Where the day ends at 3:30!
  • 1 0
 night ride is the best! more exciting and better temperature.. also, go to bed after a 30 km ride is priceless!!
  • 7 1
 Same deal here. Married with kids. Wink
  • 2 0
 tonight's the night
  • 9 0
 anyone else notice how much more terrifying jumps become at night? even just a little 2 foot booter, as soon as you leave the lip you start flying through the abyss and have no idea when you'll hit the ground
  • 2 0
 I was realized: I'm way faster at night - the environment didn't bothers me.
  • 88 4
 Chester probably rides at night. Without lights. Not that I'd know, I dont even know who Chester is.
  • 62 1
 I heard Chester spends his evenings watching your little sister through the window.
  • 14 4
 Chester the Melestor that was before he found my biking
  • 16 0
 #chestergate
  • 9 9
 Chester can kill session jokes
  • 2 22
flag chaosoner (Nov 13, 2015 at 3:25) (Below Threshold)
 um that Chester comp was like 3 days ago bro move on, you wont win commenting on this feed.
  • 5 9
flag WAKIdesigns (Nov 13, 2015 at 5:19) (Below Threshold)
 Chester is contageous
  • 3 4
 chester IS the new session
  • 4 9
flag WAKIdesigns (Nov 13, 2015 at 5:30) (Below Threshold)
 Chester can kill you with a single thought
  • 7 3
 chester's last known mailing address was guantanamo bay
  • 4 5
 chester invented chuck norris
  • 3 7
flag flipoffthemonkeys (Nov 13, 2015 at 5:52) (Below Threshold)
 then chester decided chuck norris was an idiot.
  • 3 4
 WinCHESTERtonfieldville
  • 1 6
flag dumpsterdiver1 (Nov 13, 2015 at 7:39) (Below Threshold)
 Sometimes when there is a full moon, Caper the raper accompanies chester on these rides.
  • 1 0
 if there aren't clouds out it really is awesome to ride at night without any lights. I've only done it on trails I know well though. I don't know how you'd navigate with barely any vision if you don't already know most of the trail.
  • 1 0
 Chester never forgets. Chester doesn't chase comments. Not that I'd know, I'm not Chester
  • 47 1
 Hi
I solo night ride at least once a week in the winter and cant get enough of it. I have no problem with the darkness having spent many years sea fishing on my own in all winds & weathers.
There is something magical about riding alone on a trail in the middle of the woods at night. This may seem dangerous & irresponsible but there is a reason why i do it.

I am 56 and suffer with COPD which gives me only 50% lung capacity. This makes it very difficult for me to keep up with my friends and have to stop more frequently to recover. My friends are very understanding but i end up putting pressure on myself to keep up with them. If I ride on my own then i can stop whenever i need to without feeling I,m spoiling anyones ride. When night riding i dont go fast but concentrate on my technique and just enjoy the simple act of riding the bike on rough terrain. An added bonus is the wildlife i see on the trail.
For example I went out last night & saw 3 deer, 2 badgers and a fox. I switched my lights off to soak up the atmosphere and rest the legs & within 5 minutes had 2 owls calling in the trees above my head. How often can you say you have had these experiences riding during the day? I always record my rides with Viewranger and have the Buddy beacon facility switched on so my wife can see exactly where i am should anything happen.
I ride with 2x 5000lm solar storms on the handlebars & a 1200lm spot on my helmet ( they are very rarely used on full power) I also carry a spare battery. I feel i have done as much as i can to minimize the risk with solo night riding. For anyone who has never tried it, give it a go and you yourself may have a EUREKA moment. Enjoy!!
  • 13 0
 You sir, are a legend. POST OF THE DAY?
  • 7 0
 @ukviking You are a soul rider! Thanks for keeping it real!
  • 2 0
 You rock man! Keep it up and enjoy every second of it! One of the reasons I love mtbing is that one can tailor the ride to their one needs and capabilities, while still breaking their own boundaries if they're willing to push hard enough. Just came back from a solo ride and feel so good, can't wait to go back out!
  • 3 0
 Solo night rides are the BEST. The dark, damp, quiet environment is surreal.
  • 2 0
 I really enjoyed reading this. Props for knowing how you enjoy your bike and sticking to it. Also, two lights on the handlebars, great idea!
  • 30 5
 Have been using these forever, can't go wrong considering the price. All my friends have it too.
Branded offerings are ridiculous at almost x10 the cost and lower Lumen equivalent.

www.ebay.com/itm/350962798492?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
  • 10 3
 The same one forever.....or a new one every two weeks "forever"?
  • 4 0
 Don't know why you got neg vote somniumus !

I got the same light and it works as fine as my friend niterider that cost a lot more.

Watch this video if you're not convince

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai7CJAgNQt0
  • 7 0
 Ι have the same, it was a gift (bought locally) and it's my first light. Expectations were low but so far it's fine. It's a spot, there's a very bright circle in the middle with a far weaker wide halo.

It has four settings, low is perfect for climbing or commuting and lasts over 6hrs, medium is fine for most purposes including trails, lasts around 2hrs (have not fully tested). High only has a marginal difference from medium and makes the unit very hot, so I don't actually use it. Then there's a strobe function that's perfect for setting off epileptic episodes or for a drum & bass party.

Actual output is probably around 600-750 lumens.

Overall it's worth it if you want to try night riding but don't want to spend a fortune. And if you break it, you just buy another one.

The beam shape and little details just can't compare to pricier units, you get what you pay for.
  • 2 1
 Yup, I have a similar model from China that I got for about $40 and it puts my exposure joystick I bought for 200 to shame! It is still a good compromise to have the heavy battery+lamp on the frame/bars and keep the joystick on the helmet for backup and tight corners.
  • 2 0
 Just wait, loved mine, started to really trust it, then it failed on me 20 min in...the lights are half decent but the battery's are s#+*. You get what you pay for.
  • 2 0
 Going on 2 years, about 25 night rides with mine. Actually nicer than the $200 units from MEC. Total cost: $27 shipped from China.

Even if it did fail on me at this point, I'd still feel like it was a great purchase. I always carry a little commuter light in my pack, just in case it craps the bed.
  • 1 0
 Yep, the batteries that come with most of these lights suck so you should add an aftermarket battery pack. The light itself is nice. LEDs are quality and the housing is well made with decent heat sinking. These are my favorite cheap aftermarket battery option. Much nicer than the stock pack:

www.amazon.com/dp/B00PE6TVFK?m=A2L8GW6N0VWSH5&ref_=v_sp_widget_detail_page
  • 1 0
 I ve ridden mine for 3 seasons, then the cable-battery connection became faulty(battery in the backpack, light is on the helmet. So now I bought another one, although it's probably fixable.
Usability:
Need to make sure it's charged a night before the ride, I've seen them shutting down unexpectedly.
Halo shape and brightness: did not have much time with premium units but few years ago they were bulky and offered around 300 lumens at around 200$(MEC store). Nonames are rated at 3K lumens, but power output is probably around 700-1000, which works fine for me, I ride enduro type decents at night with drops, tabletops etc. I've used two no-name units side by side and it gives a VERY bright patch.
It needs some tinkering i attachment, I adopted mine to work with Go-Pro mounts and its has been great, there is a screw hole that could be used to attach go pro connector permanently.

Cheers all!
I mostly ridden it for 2hrs max, but recon it would go up to 4-5 no problem.
  • 2 0
 A few guy I ride with got the cheap ones like these off Amazon and they seem legit, somewhat cumbersome with the battery but for 20 bucks who cares?
  • 4 0
 I ride with one of these and with a Dinotte XML-3. I can tell you that the quality of the Dinotte is worth the extra money. These cheapos are OK but once you run one of the more legit lights you won't go back. Also, the fit, finish, hardware, etc. is league's better. That said, if it gets you out on the trail and you don't have the budget for a $200 light they work just fine.
  • 1 0
 Heard a few horror stories of the cheapos bursting into flames whilst charging, make sure you do it away from anything flammable pref on garage floor.
  • 1 0
 I use a similar set from LT-Box, except with 4 bulbs. I've bought 3 sets total and they are around $25 now. They last around 2.5 hours on the brightest setting, so that's enough for a mellow night ride for sure.

The only thing is that I've found they need a spreader lens. Available for around $7 from CRC or ebay. Just place the plastic spreader lens under the glass lens. With one on the bar and one on the helmet, it's like riding in the day time.
  • 1 0
 Lights are great but batteries and chargers are hit and miss - the earth pin broke on one of my chargers, then when I went to use the other one turns out it doesn't work! Very much regretting chucking the one with the broken pin now. One of my batteries is good but the other sucks. I'd also recommend getting the single LED over the triple - single is bright enough (with 2), more effective than the triple running in single LED mode, and has a half brightness setting so you drain batteries less on less crucial parts of ride (fire road climbs etc).
  • 1 0
 alexhyland:
My quad light set has 2 brightness settings also. No need to run out of batteries. With 2 sets, I doubt your single can light up the night quite as well...

I'm sure the singles work fine for you though. I'm 3 for 3 on quality batteries and chargers for my sets.
  • 2 0
 Should have clarified: I currently have a single and a triple, and have just ordered another single (only about £14 posted! Pretty happy). Although the triple is super bright, in real world terms it's not 3 times as effective as the single and drains the battery so quickly in triple mode that I end up using just a single LED on it anyway, and find the dedicated single more effective in this mode.
  • 20 0
 Does riding across Vancouver at night drunk a couple of times a week count? (with lights and a helmet of course). And The Yeah Yeah Yeahs on the headphones.
  • 4 0
 This was my first thought when I saw the poll haha. Fernie is my favorite town for that, its the only way to get bar to bar and back home again.
  • 1 1
 Imagine if Norco came out with a VPS 14, it would kick ass!
  • 2 0
 Riding home a month or so back I had to close one eye to stop seeing double. Kept to the pavements, made friends with some nice hedges.
  • 17 1
 That's like asking if I wake and bake
  • 3 1
 wake and shake?
  • 11 0
 would the past tense be "woke and boke"?
  • 7 1
 Here in Colorado everyone wakes and bakes. Many blokes who are boked!
  • 10 0
 I remember my first night riding experience at cypress mountain , I bought 5 headlamps from dollarama and attached theme to my helmet with tucktape and somehow I survived ,I guess key word is to feel the trail not to see it . facing your childhood fears and bike on the same time that's magic
  • 8 0
 "That means the cracking of a branch or rustle of dry leaves sounds like a Bigfoot in search of a midnight snack, making solo night rides a perfect way to find out just how fast your heart can race."

So it's not just me who sometimes gets a little phyched out riding solo at night.
  • 6 0
 To be honest it sometimes happens to me during the day as well, even with the knowledge that Bigfoot doesn't live in England/Wales. Forests can be pretty dark in the day as well, especially in your own.
  • 5 1
 Lmao, I hate riding solo at night! I was out with a buddy once and he got a fair bit ahead of me. I heard some loud screech from the woods must've been an owl or something but I proper crapped myself! Never pedalled so hard in my life!
  • 3 0
 By now you can hear the coyote packs yipping and howling on my local trails and the deer begin to disappear. Makes your pulse quicken during the daytime, let alone at night. I got nipped by a domestic dog on the trail once. Not sure I want to fight off a pack of coyotes with my shock pump.

Also, there seems to be some kind of coyote / wolf hybrid moving into Quebec and Eastern Ontario, so no, I don't ride at night a lot.
  • 4 0
 Yeah we're quite lucky that way in the UK most vicious wildlife here is probably badgers lol
  • 3 0
 Was doing a solo night ride in north Idaho years ago (sole 200L DiNotte rubber-banded to my bars...those were the days), five minutes into a 10 mile ride into an area known to have moose and bear. Grinding up the first hill of the ride and something big was crashing through the woods uphill from me. Just kept muttering "It's only a deer....it's only a deer..." Freaked for the next ten miles. Very glad I had the resolve then, doubt I would now!
  • 9 0
 Move out of the city and into the woods. You won't be afraid in the woods anymore, but you'll be terrified of the city.
  • 2 0
 @eggsandb a shock pump is the mountain biker's weapon of choice. And I ain't tangling with no badgers @Hankbizzle, met one on foot in an alleyway one evening, shit me pants.
  • 3 0
 @eggsandb, I ride with bear spray incase I come across any wildlife that wants to hurt me. Truth be told running into a bear doesn't really worry me as every bear I've encountered has always ran away from me. I'm more worried about a mountain lion stalking and attacking me from behind. When climbing when riding solo I'll stop, turn the light on my helmet on and do a quick 360 pan to see if I can spot any glowing eye in the bushes.
  • 1 0
 @charmingbob that's a good tip, thanks. I actually enjoy riding at night, but can't help but feel like noisy, slow, fragrant prey sometimes, so I'd like to carry something more for protection.
  • 1 0
 I wouldn't worry too much about being prepared for a cougar attack. As rare as they are, it's even more rare you see it coming. More common daytime than night, and the majority of North American cougar attacks happen on Vancouver Island.
  • 9 0
 As a father of three kids (oldest beeing 4) its the only way to ride!!!
21:30 I make sure everyone is on his bed and the lights are ON...
  • 7 1
 DO people at pinkbike hibernate or what, all this talk of off-season, parks closing, night-time seems to mean that they should pack the bikes away and wait for the nice weather and groomed parks to open??

Stuff like this confuses me .. its just riding. you do it when and where the hell you can.... screw the weather .. although the one element that truly does have me scurrying back inside is the wind, thats the only real thing that will stop me as its just soul crushing, the rest .. screw it .. ..can't wait for the snow to arrive .. yay .. RIDE you LAZY ASS PINKBIKE STAFF!!!! ... Smile .. just messing about people Smile smile & ride
  • 7 1
 You don't know anything about Canada.

Unless you want to (likely) die on a slush/ice/pothole filled main street or take a fat bike out on mellow snowshoe trails, your riding will take a break for 3-5 months here. And many other parts of the world.

Anyway, totally agree with your last line, just remember that the view out your window is not the same everywhere.
  • 1 0
 Indeed, take a look at some pics of whistler from this week, it's so well covered that ski season starts next week! We just don't get that in UK at all, it just gets colder and stays just as wet and grey.
  • 1 1
 Bishopsmike:

Not all of Canada is under snow and ice. I still mtb 2 or 3 times during the week. Last winter I had more night rides than day rides during the previous summer.

There's no off-season over here... Just a season to pack more clothes and charge lights.
  • 5 0
 night riding aside, riders going on further backcountry rides/sunset chases should consider also packing a 200+ lumen mini light in their pack...much easier to hike out/find a sheltered spot with one if a mechanical etc. keeps you out past nightfall (worst case scenario could be used to signal for help)
  • 7 0
 Used thing I'd never ride at night....those people are crazy. Now I can't wait for night rides. Every trail is new again at night.
  • 2 0
 Same here. On a couple of occasions my first ride was at night, when I rode the same trail at daylight it was so different.
  • 5 0
 I love night riding!! Probably do as many or more nightrides than day rides these days…errr… nights. ha ha I'm rocking the NITERIDER 3600 lumen lights on the bars and another on the helmet for 7200 lumens of wicked light on the north shore or Kamloops…or wherever!! I like the Niteriders the most because they are really bright and have both a good long distance beam and wide angle flood at the same time. Although you're looking ahead the wide angle flood seems to really help with the balance I think. It's cool to be in the forest both flying along ripping some great trail but also stopping and tripping out on the owls etc. and nature in the middle of nowhere. Digging em and going for a Niteride tonight!!!!
  • 4 0
 So many people miss out on this side of mountain biking because they assume it will rubbish, or they tried it once and hated it because they made the big mistake of going out with a light on the handlebars only. All these guys waiting for the weekend to ride, having no idea about the fun they're missing out on!
  • 4 0
 Such an odd question. Anyone with a 9-to-5 job has to ride at night, especially for 6 months out of the year. D'ay ain't no oth-uh choice!!
  • 1 0
 Exactly, especially if like me you work at the weekends too, so only time I get to ride is the evenings. If I didn't ride in the dark I wouldn't ride all winter!
  • 3 0
 Funny reading this from just returning from a night ride.
Buy two of these, all you need.
www.ebay.ca/itm/261360152244?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
  • 3 0
 I have a solar storm as well, and for the price you really can't go wrong. Tons of light for under $30. Look under Cree lights on ebay. For the life of me I can't understand the massive discrepancy in prices considering N.A. companies undoubtedly source from the same Chinese suppliers, despite battery quality differentials. Just curious what type of life you get from your battery? I find with it on low for the climbs and high for the descents i get 1-1 1/2hrs. Leaving it on med or high is >1hr. It also seems to go from full bars on the indicator to dead in under 10min. I have a spare battery from a loaner light that I end up carrying if it's not in use.What's your experience? (granted there are many sellers on ebay, and they may not all supply the same quality battery) Either way, still a no brainer. Anyone in the lighting industry care to chime in?
  • 3 0
 The batteries and optics are better on the expensive ones - my cheap Chinese batteries have a pretty short life after a year which made me buy (2) more expensive Lumicycle lights. The batteries are far, far superior. I have a friend with a lupine and similarly his battery has been going for years without any suggestion of reduced life/performance. My Chinese ones have a life of around 9-18 months before the battery doesn't last the length of a ride (2.5hrs) even when used carefully.

However the difference in price is crazy - you can pretty much treat the Chinese lamps as disposable and get new each season for significantly less. I can't really knock them and I ride with many people who use them and are far quicker than I'll ever be!

I only went posh as I do a lot of night riding due to where I live, work and kids, wanted to support a British company and had some money burning a hole in my pocket. Saying that, I've been really pleased with my purchase and would definately buy again - each to their own I guess!
  • 1 0
 @lostlunchbox - To answer your question I probably get about 3hrs out of cheap lights initially, but that quickly fades with time/use to less than 2.5hrs, and sometimes even 1hr. In the last 5 years I've probably gone through 4 Chinese lights until, 3yrs ago I bought my first posh light (using it in combination with a Chinese light) and my second posh light 1yr ago (making both lights used posh ones). Both posh ones have been flawless but then they should be for the premium. This is, like you, using them on dim on climbs and high power coming down. Often I'll turn one light off outside of a descent to conserve battery life, just leaving one on.

My good lights, one of which is now 3 years old, will still last that time 3hrs+ easily, mostly on mid to high power. On constant mid power I think they'll last around 4-6hrs, but that has never been truly tested as I'm not that fit! My friends Lupine I'm convinced he leaves pretty much on high power throughout a ride and it is still going strong at the end (2-3hrs). I still try to be conservative with battery power just in case, but they are always both on.

The other consideration is that I understand that batteries are massively impacted by temperature? I think that they perform worse when it is cold, giving less life from a charge. I couldn't say how much more or less efficient they are in different extremes of temperature, but if you live somewhere cold you may see more value in a better battery pack than in somewhere warm. Here night riding varies from around +15C to -5C. I know there is a place near me that does high(er) quality battery packs to use with Magicshines etc if anyone wanted to replace the battery only.

The other thing is that on clear nights when you are out in the open you can easily ride by moonlight to save power. If all your riding is in trees you need batteries as it gets dark in there pretty quick!
  • 1 0
 That's the one I use, solar storm x2 I have had to replace the battery pack once but the light has been awesome, opened up the world of night riding for me and my friends.
  • 1 0
 i have 2 solarstorm x2.....3 years now...were tested and bought in the uk though...they do get hot i admit
  • 1 0
 I'd be really interested to see another poll question on here that address what lights people are using. It's so hard to shop for a light. Having ridden in a few group night rides, I've seen huge differences in the brightness of lights that people are using. The lights like the Solar Storm are grossly mis-estimating their lumens. It's really hard to get an idea of what a lumen number equates to on the trail. Bike light shopping at a bike shop isn't easy either, because if you really want to see what a light can do, you have to go at night and hope the shop sells enough lights to justify keeping some demos charged up at all times.
  • 1 0
 To be fair I think that you will get a good quality light now through any reputable brand, and there is reviews and information about them available online.

With the cheap ones it's just a case of trawling forums for what cheap light, but the difficulty is that they are cheap for a reason - build quality or battery quality may differ between one unit and another, and with the lack of trademark laws in China you can find that whilst 2 lights look the same (perhaps even be branded the same) they may actually be made by different people. You just have to take a bit of a gamble, but then they are so cheap that it is definately worth it for a lot of people out there.
  • 2 0
 I underestimated the time descending Mt Fromme by foot the other day and found myself walking in the pitch black woods for a couple of hours. Was happy to meet 3 guys riding during that time... Definitely triggered my will to try this kind of stuff!!! I knew it existed as a thing but only knew of Brett Tippie doing it Smile
  • 2 0
 Every night during the week is a night ride for me. There is no other way.

I have a light on the bar and on the helmet.

I have a blast at night, though seeing slippery spots can be tricky.

www.pinkbike.com/photo/12791469
  • 1 0
 How many lumens in that pic? Looks pretty good considering that's just your bar
  • 1 0
 I think its supposed to be 1300. It is a Cygolite.
  • 3 0
 night ride a lot during the summer months from march to may to escape the heat. it can get up to 40 degrees celsius during mid day.
  • 1 0
 I use Ay Up lights with a helmet & handlebar set up and just lately I've a handle bar mounted 1000 lumens from exposure which was expensive and I 've just got a £50 Amazon light with 1000 lumens that I haven't tried yet. It's bright but the beam quality is a bit varied from an extensive test in my garden.

It is interesting riding in the dark as you constantly have to work from the foreground to the distance and it's pretty amazing how little detail you need to make progress.

I 'm a big unit and I have to admit I regularly get the heebie jeebies in the middle of the woods. I find it helps to repeatedly swear and hurl abuse. On a sample of 5 bike rides - I've never been hunted down by an axe murderer or wolf man. This also works when shopping.
  • 4 0
 I flushed a Grouse on a solo ride on Seymour,just about had a heart attack.
  • 5 0
 Was it a famous grouse?
  • 1 0
 I wish it was,but just a regular Ruffed Grouse.
  • 3 0
 That happens a lot in our area usually pheasants, you never get used to it. Heart attack every time but once you realise you're still alive it can be hilarious!
  • 3 0
 even in the daylight coming out of the shadows it scares the crap out of you when you startle a grouse .some of the spots i ride they lie on the trail in the sun .
  • 1 0
 We ride every Wednesday night in the mountains above our town, maybe a dozen of us some nights... great fun as forest single track at speed, in the dark, has a way of centralising the mind... I have just bought a Cree 5v USB 2000lm lamp powered by a USB powerpack (1200ma).. the powerpack is a little weighty, but in a backpack not a problem, full power and after 2.5hrs the powerpack still showing 50%... I also use the Cree battery lamp, 1200lm, but will start to dim after 1.5hrs, normally carry a spare battery as well... Can definitely recommend the USB lamp (£12.00 ebay) and solar waterproof USB powerpack (again, £12.00 ebay)
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331584334369?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371421236251?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
  • 1 0
 Thanks for the link. I will give them a go. Ive been riding with my old Lumicycle halogens but needed to rebuild as the 35W bulbs were cooking the internals.
  • 1 0
 Been brilliant to date, and at that price I don't mind replacing every now and again....
  • 1 0
 Did my first night ride last year, got lost to start with then about 5 mile in my brothers hub went so he had no drive at all. I had to tow him back with a giant stick. Was a bit dodgy because by that point out lights were starting to die. Made it back with 1 light left between us

I'd like to give it another go though.

On a side note does anybody else have problems with their eyes hurting on night rides? I figured it was from having to focus so hard.
  • 1 0
 With cheaper lights you get a more pronounced drop in light from the central focused ring of light to the peripheral ring of light. That can be really tiring on your eyes as you have to concentrate harder to see in those areas (this is often subconscious), and more the case with a single light. I usually ride with 2 lights and have only noticed this when using a single cheap lamp.

Obviously you could spend a lot of money on some posh lights which have better optics, but assuming you don't want to spend silly/more money (who does...?) have a look at the different settings on your lights - it may be better not to run them on maximum brightness if the drop in light from inner to outer ring is less pronounced - or consider picking up a second light for cheap if you're on just the one (one of the many cheap Chinese ones being touted on here are perfect). If you do buy another try and get a look at the beam it gives out (often they'll have a night shot to show you how powerful it is) and get one with a nice gentle transition from bright at the centre to dim at the edges.
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 I've got a Cree bar light and an Exposure Diablo on my helmet. I might try switching them around and putting the brighter Cree on my helmet as that's the one your eyes follow.
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 I have heard that putting the brighter bar on the bars is best? I understand it creates shadow in any recesses in the trail allowing your brain can more easily read it, but that may all be rubbish - my mate swears by having the brighter light on his lid whilst I'm the other way round!

Worth a try but I'm not sure what else to suggest - perhaps lights are not bright enough (unlikely) or you are concentrating REALLY hard for extended periods of time (do you ride trails you know well or new stuff all the time?).

The only other thing I can think of is that when you have someone riding close behind you their lights can cast some really weird shadows ahead of you - I find it really distracting. Is there a group of you and very little spacing? Or do you go out when it is really cold or not take breaks you would normally (dehydration?).
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 Night rides are top fun and the only way for those of us with little time to spare at weekends to ride through the winter. Does anyone else find it take a couple of rides to recalibrate your brain for the LED effect? I always seem to feel like my timing is a little off at first...
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 The only way I can have any sort of chance of carrying any level of fitness through to next season. It is a must for me. It heightens your awareness and I do believe it'll make you a more technically adept rider. Cheap Cree bar and helmet mounted 3x led. £40-£50 all in. Sorted and on their second winter on the same batteries
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 I've been using a Fenix UC40 Ultimate Edition flashlight for a year on my helmet. Is the same diameter as a stock handlebar reflector which can be easily hacked to GoPro helmet mount. Usb rechargeable, durable, replaceable battery, 960 lumens. Been great.
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 I use Four4th lights. UK made and excellent quality. My current light is coming up for 5 years old this winter and still works like new so value for money is right up there. I love night riding. Same trails but different challenges to daytime riding. Fun fun fun.
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 I just make sure my night rides are on busy trails. Ran into a mountain lion three weeks ago on a secluded trail at night and now all sketched out on doing night rides there.
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 skeeeeeetch. Where were you riding?
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 Santiago Oaks, spotted on the bottom of Chutes.
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 I am going to get some lights and start night hucking. Money isn't a huge issue but I do like to be cheap. So what should I do? Go with something like a couple of Gloworms (or similar ~$250 lights) or go cheap with the Cree ones? What do you all think, is the added cost of the legit lights worth the performance advantage?
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 Ride alone. No shadows. More light on the bar than the helmet. Choose your nights ( no point making it arduous after a working day, think of it as a treat, personally. Don't ride when it's pissing it down). Love the silence, love the cool conditions. Ride your normal local trails. They feel totally new. Been night ridin for 12 years. Good lights used to be 500 ( really). Now... Probably the most cost effective upgrade you can do as a UK trail rider, for the time you get on the bike. it's just fun, that's what it's all about.
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 been night riding since F O R E V E Rrrrrrr..... back in the day when lights really sucked... got more into as ight systems improved.... personally, I think I ride better at night cause I'm not seeing things that might distract my lines ... I just plug through. back when I raced those Granny Gear 24 Hour races, my night laps were always around 5, 6, 7 minutes faster than my day laps. these days --all I need is my NiteRider 750 lumen helmet light -- that's plenty of light for me
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 Night riding is an awesome experience. I highly recommend it, and thank you Mike K for shining some light on the subject.
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 Got a couple of Glow worm X2's. Like ridding into daylight but without the distraction of periferal vision. Im sure I go faster!
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 Night riding is the only way to ride footpaths without pissing off the ramblers!
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 haha i agree especially in kent where im from. saying that though we bumped into a bat sh*t crazy old man while crossing a farmers field in the pitch black we all had multiple lights and he had nothing , and then he goes on some crazy shouting rant that our lights are to bright haha beware of the night ramblers !!
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 Yeah current LED technology is pretty bright, we have a Northern Wednesday Night Crew of about 9 riders lighting up the Lake district and it looks like the Starship Enterprise coming up the hill with 9 pairs of lights!
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 I use an Exposure Maxx D bar light and Diablo helmet light combo...
Expensive but after using cheap stuff I decided to invest properly.
No wires... No hassles...

Love night riding! Smile
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 I'd love to see a good write-up testing the different cheap generic light systems.
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 $22 dollar Amazon lights FTW
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 6000 Lumens = KOMS!!!
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 Perth summer 45 C = night rides for sure, then it is only 38 C.........
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 ...what about the doctor?
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 Nah I prefer being ridden at night
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 Here in malaysia, we done it during the fasting month...we start at 11pm end at 2-3am...weekly also, on wednesday night at 9pm until midnight
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 One light on the handlebars makes you a better rider- every switchback is a surprise!
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 Ironically, I went out last night for my first of the night riding season...damn daylight savings crap. It's dark now when I get off work. Gotta ride though.
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 So far gone on two night rides with some coworkers, but need some brighter lights than the 200 lumens on the handle bar and the 100 lumens on my helmet.
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 I've just gotten into night riding because wanting to ride during the workweek and its great! It is a lot like night riding sleds or Dirt bikes.
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 the forest at night where i ride is home to doggers
so its a no from me
don't want to get get raped :/
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 Dear PB @mikelevy .. please review/do some hardtail hardcore trail riding .. it's been quite sometime for hardtail .. cheers lad. Thank you.
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 We ride at night in the summer a lot in Vegas to escape the boiling sun
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 I just get some friends and set up some big painters lights on my yard step up, good times!
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 Last time I rode at night without a good light, I cracked my sternum ... Damn log on the trail!
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 Ouch, I did the same thing falling on a rock with my wedding between my chest and said rock. It was super lame.
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 Wedding ring*
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 if you havent gone night riding yet, then what in the world are you waiting for!
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 Yep, all year. No heat, no hikers!!
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 Night vision goggles all the way. A bit sketchy when you face plant though
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 dude no way, you do that? i was joking with a coworker of mine about that the other day. does it really work?
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 I've never ridden with night vision goggles, although I do own them. They distort things too much to be safe.
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 nothing better then a late night shred when everything is all frosty and frozen
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 Love night riding! Have a NiteRider 2800 Lumen setup in the mail now! My little 150 & 350 aren't cutting it anymore.
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 Nite ride =cognac friends relax and fun
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 I'm always more stoked to throw down at night
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 So night-duro !
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 i taped a light on my bars... wish i had a legitimate riding light!
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 C & B Seen lights...great for the low price
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 Hard to ride jumps in the with a fleshlight
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 I don't use lights anymore I ride till I can just about see and then follow the others with lights and failing that I'll hit the fireroad and get home that way.
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 why are lights so fucken expensive!!
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 lol, not really check this out:

www.ebay.com.au/itm/SolarStorm-5000-Lumen-2x-CREE-XM-L-U2-LED-Bicycle-bike-HeadLight-Headlamp-Light-/400434279941

Note: that might not have true 5k lumen, prolly has around 2K which is still more than enough, and illegal using for commute.
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 Such a sick photo Javi!!!
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 only choice i have weekdays after work
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 I ride with my abatjour! So much style bitches!!!
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 dark+snow=gonna be one hell of a ride
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 I just bought a Niterider handlebar light and it is amazing
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 How much light does that moving red dot give?
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 The Hoff would approve of that joke.
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 I get it now, took me a while
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 Their top light costs $700!
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 Meiszko42 your age is the only thing that enabled you to get it at all. The exact same as mine I see.
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 Cheers, fellow old-timer.
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