Since their inception, Transition has gained a reputation for creating durable, no-frills machines, designed with the knowledge that can only come from years of real world riding experience. The TR500 is the successor to both the TR250 and the TR450, and features adjustable geometry that lets riders build it up in multiple configurations. Everything from a mini-DH / bike park ripper with 180mm of travel all the way to a downhill race bike with 203mm of travel is possible, and adjustable chainstays allow the bike to accommodate 26” or 27.5” wheels. Given Transition's location squarely in the heart of Sasquatch country, it's fitting that they also expanded their size range, adding an XL option for riders whose proportions mirror those of the elusive beast. There are four different complete build kits offered, in addition to a frame only option. Our test bike, outfitted with a Fox 40 FLOAT, DHX RC4 and Shimano Saint brakes and drivetrain retails for $6199 USD.
TR500 Details
• Intended use: DH / Freeride
• Wheel size: 26" or 27.5''
• Rear wheel travel: 203 or 180mm
• Aluminum frame
• Fox 40 FLOAT 203mm fork
• Fox DHX RC4 shock
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Colors: orange, pearl green, raw
• Weight: 37.5 lb (size M)
• MSRP: $6199 USD
Frame DesignConstructed from hydroformed 6061 aluminum, the TR500's frame has a modern, low slung look, aided by the fact that the linkage that drives the rear shock is hidden inside the split seat tube. Internal cable routing adds to the look as well, with the rear derailleur housing and brake line entering at the integrated fork bumpers and traveling through the downtube to their respective destinations. Both travel and geometry adjustments are available on the TR500, although Transition has done an excellent job of making them as inconspicuous as possible, thus avoiding the whole Erector set / science experiment look that can arise when companies decide to go down this route. In addition to the two shock travel positions, there are chips in the rear dropouts that can be flipped to set the bike up with either 434 or 442mm chainstays, although 27.5” wheels can only be run in the 442mm position. The bike's head angle and bottom bracket height can also be altered by flipping the chip that's located where the seatstays mount to the rear shock linkage, giving riders the option of choosing between a 63 or 63.5° head angle and the corresponding -10 or -4mm of bottom bracket drop. Other highlights include a threaded 83mm bottom bracket, a tapered headtube (
useful for riders who decide to run a single crown fork), and ISCG 05 tabs for running a chainguide.
Suspension LayoutLike its predecessors in the TR range, the TR500 uses a link driven single pivot suspension layout. A short link connects the one piece rear swing arm to a forged link that is situated in between the split in the seat tube. The link that drives the rear shock has two mounting positions – the upper position is the 203mm setting, and the lower sets it at 180mm. Transition has slightly changed the dimension of the rear shock linkage in order improve the feel of the rear suspension, with the end goal being for the bike to feel consistent through its travel, giving it a smooth ramp up as the shock nears the end of its stroke.
Specifications
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Price
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$6199 |
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Travel |
203 or 180mm |
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Rear Shock |
Fox DHX RC4 Kashima |
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Fork |
Fox 40 Float RC2 FIT Kashima |
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Headset |
FSA |
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Cassette |
Shimano 11-25t |
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Crankarms |
Shimano Saint |
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Chainguide |
e*13 LG1+ |
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Rear Derailleur |
Shimano Saint |
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Shifter Pods |
Shimano Saint iSpec |
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Handlebar |
ANVL Mandrel 800mm |
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Stem |
ANVL ARC direct mount |
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Grips |
ANVL Punch |
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Brakes |
Shimano Saint |
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Wheelset |
TBC Revolution 150 |
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Tires |
Schwalbe EVO Magic Mary |
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Seat |
ANVL Forge chromo |
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Seatpost |
Thomson |
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| The TR500 has the ability to make short work of the most chopped up and blown out trails while also possessing a flickable and playful side that came out on smoother, jump riddled trails. |
The Whistler Bike Park is the ideal place to rack up the vertical while testing a downhill bike, containing a wide variety of runs featuring everything from seemingly endless jump lines to trails brimming with roots and rocks that are challenging aboard any bike. Our test TR500 arrived with 26” wheels and set in the short and slack position with 203mm of travel, giving it a 63° head angle and a 434mm chainstay length. This ended up being the configuration the bike remained in for the duration of my time on it, simply because it felt so well balanced and matched to the terrain in the bike park there wasn't any need to alter it.
There are some DH bikes on the market that are incredibly demanding to ride, requiring such a high level of rider input that it can feel like work simply trying to get around a corner at anything less than the speed of sound. Those bikes are best reserved for riders whose primary focus is getting down the hill as fast as possible, not seeking out the little side hits and bonus features on the way down. Luckily, the TR500 falls on the more mild-mannered side of the scale, with an easygoing nature that doesn't require World Cup racer level skills to make it come alive. While it usually takes a few laps to figure out a bike's little quirks and handling characteristics, with the TR500 this 'getting to know you' period lasted maybe half of a run. Maybe. After that, it felt as if I'd been riding the bike for months, not minutes. It's an incredibly intuitive bike to ride, and it didn't take long before I found myself plowing into the rough stuff at full speed without a second thought about the bike's handling.
Don't take the term 'mild-mannered' the wrong way either - this bike has plenty of gumption, and easily handled the trickiest lines that Whistler had to offer, whether it was steep, fall line rock rolls into loose, sandy corners or gunning it through off camber root sections. The TR500 has the ability to make short work of the most chopped up and blown out trails while also possessing a flickable and playful side that came out on the smoother, jump riddled trails like A-Line and Dirt Merchant, a combination that makes it well matched to the demands of a bike park. Taking a look at the numbers to figure out how Transition managed to make a bike this fun reveals measurements that aren't radically different from what we've come to expect from a modern downhill bike, but it's the way all of these numbers work together that make it such a treat to ride. The slack head angle keeps it composed and stable at high speeds when everything turns into one big blur, but at the same time switching lines or making quick maneuvers to evade basketball sized rocks doesn't pose any trouble thanks to the relatively short chainstays and low center of gravity. Even at slower speeds on tighter, twistier trails the bike was quick and lively, diving in and out of corners without any sluggishness or lagging.
Suspension PerformanceGeometry and frame design play a large role in how a bike feels on the trails, but on a downhill bike suspension is also of the utmost importance, especially given the high speeds at which obstacles need to be dealt with. The combination of the TR500's Fox 40 FLOAT in the front and a DHX RC4 in the rear felt extremely well matched, working together as a cohesive unit to filter out those brake bumps that can wreak havoc on unprepared hands and forearms. Fox's claim that they've increased the compliance of the 40 FLOAT's chassis is a welcome one, and on the trail it rang true – the level of stiffness has been reduced from 'bone-jarring' to 'just right'. Previous versions of the 40 could be a bit brutish, and it often seemed like the fork had its own idea of which direction to go in. This feeling is a thing of the past, and the 40 FLOAT strikes an excellent balance between stiffness and suppleness, with a stroke that feels like it combines the small bump sensitivity of a coil sprung fork and the progressiveness of an air spring. The air bleed ports are also a nice touch, a quick way to let out any air that builds up due to heat or pressure changes.
Although air sprung forks like the 40 have become more prevalent, especially among downhill racers, the same can't be said about rear shocks. The current offerings are getting close, but the feeling of a coil sprung rear shock is still tough to match. The DHX RC4 felt like a high end coil shock should, and silently worked to smooth out the most jarring of impacts, the kind that come from landing way too deep off of a drop, or trying to double up a section of roots only to land a half a wheel length short. The setup for both the fork and shock was straightforward, and minimal tweaking was necessary once the base settings were dialed in.
Component Check• Shimano Saint brakes / drivetrain: It's hard to go wrong with Shimano's Saint parts group – everything from the brakes to the rear derailleur are well designed to hold up to the rigors of DH riding. The brakes are particularly impressive, with an excellent lever shape complete with dimples for extra traction in the wet. Even though they share many of the same design attributes of the less expensive Zee brakes, the Saints require less force to reach full power, providing an extra level of control that makes it possible to enter corners faster and to wait longer before giving them a pull.
• ANVL Components: Our test sled came with a slightly different build kit that what Transition normally offers, with a smattering of ANVL Components offerings (pedals, stem, handlebar, grips) installed on the bike. I'm a fan of thin, low profile grips, so the thicker Punch grips wouldn't be my first choice to wrap my hands around, especially since they also have an extra portion of rubber at the front for additional cushioning that ended up being more of an annoyance than anything. Luckily, ANVL offers a more traditional, thin lock-on called the Rasp that is thinner and without the ergonomic shaping. The pedals were grippy, thin, and concave, meeting all of my typical criteria, but since I haven't put enough miles on them to comment on long term durability, look for a review sometime in the future once they've been dragged through the mud and bashed on a few more rocks.
• Transition HD wheelset: The TR500 rolls on Transition's house brand wheelset, which uses 32 hole, aluminum rims laced up with a 3 cross pattern to a set of sealed cartridge bearing hubs. It's pretty basic stuff, but it also held up without any spokes coming loose or major dents in the rims, a feat that can be difficult to achieve given Whistler's wheel eating trails. If anything does happen to the wheels, replacement parts should be easy to find and rather inexpensive, a reassuring thought considering the toll that bike park riding and DH racing can take on components.
Pinkbike's take: | The TR500 is something special, a downhill bike that feels familiar right out of the box, with impeccable handling that reduces the time needed to unlock its secrets and increases the amount of time available for pushing it as hard as possible. When you're spending hard earned dollars on lift tickets or race entry fees, the last thing you want is to waste time trying to relearn all the little handling quirks of a bike every time you roll it out of the garage. That's where the TR500 shines - just hop on and start charging, and the TR500 will get the job done in style, whether it's roaring across the finish line, or whipping sideways over a floaty booter. While it may not garner the same amount of press as the carbon race steeds of the World Cup circuit, that doesn't mean it's any less capable, and the adjustable geometry allows it to be configured to meet just about any rider's needs. - Mike Kazimer |
@Quesadilla34 is right about the 450 having "that look", it was the main reason i bought mine
good reply, and valid point - other bikes I would add to your list would be the Specialized Demo 8 in its current incarnation and Devinci's Wilson Split Pivot
both are very, very capable bikes but not playful, and often feels like overkill unless pointed down the steepest, gnarliest terrain you can find
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEg7lC4yx0cELGs32lXD5EpPaquw2AAdw
done by bike magazine - most is about trail bikes but there are DH bikes as well
www.bikemag.com/2014-bible-of-bike-tests/exclusive-2014-bible-of-bike-tests-begins
Its really a crucial part of a bike how the suspension works with the trail regardless if you have fox, vivid, CCDb ,bos etc in there and this review fails to actually talk about the suspension of the frame/bike.
I ride a wlsn and find it super poppy, that being said I run about 25% sag, and alittle more lsc then average.
Yes I did read it.
The suspension part was only talking about the kit, ie fox. Not about the bikes suspension design. As far as the review is concerned that part reviewed the fox kit not the bikes suspension design.
The only other part where they alluded to the suspension design was here;
"Transition has slightly changed the dimension of the rear shock linkage in order improve the feel of the rear suspension, with the end goal being for the bike to feel consistent through its travel, giving it a smooth ramp up as the shock nears the end of its stroke. "
This is a design goal it does not mean they achieved said goal. There is nothing actually about the bikes suspension performance on track itself regardless of what shock you put in there.
@spicy mike
+1 its because you're running a stiffer spring. Ideally if you want poppy and playful you should be doing it via damping not spring rate.
30% is average but that 5% makes a pretty decent difference, because while the sag is only 5% the higher spring rate is active throughout the entire travel.
current project: BRING BACK THE TOTEM!!!
www.pinkbike.com/photo/14012425
vimeo.com/86739965
take a pee break and watch it from start to finish --- you'll see the pure science of how they ride -- it's by far the most informative video Trasnition has ever made and I really appreciate the science they put into it. it's sooo much better than listening to people say it's good because it is cool.
**** yeah, you gotta ride em to know what they're all about --- far too many people base their opinions on stuff the read, misguided reviews and worse... looks.
bikes always look better in person, why anyone would diss a bike based on looks is just silly.. sure, it's cool to have a cool looking bike, there's no doubt but seeing one in person vs looking at a prototype drawing --- PPAAAleease.
I have had the Tr250 (twice, once with the Totem, once with a Boxer), then I got a Tr450.. once with a Boxxer then with a Dorado... DUDE!!!! I have been eye balling the one Tr500 (green / large) real hard --- I might have to grab it for myself instead of selling to one of my peeps. man, it's a sick frame and I love the little features they added to the new design
It feels super versatile but its a bit of a heavy but durable frame !
It performs quite balanced in the air and on track you can run ,
high speed and not even care about where you going it just goes over.
The rear dropouts are quite funky with this changing option, and the chain stay high
too i run mine on the DH settings and still happy with them.... overall good bike
Can't decide whether my next bike should be the tr500 or the new 2015 Kona operator?
Having never ridden either, I would be buying blind! Had my heart set on the Kona, but Transition have now went and complicated matters for me! lol. this bikes looks ace!
What's the general PB concensus?
I think id probably lose all trust in a carbon frame if it exploded on me (regardless of whether it was replaced under warranty!)
Ive cracked an aluminium frame in the past, but it was just a hairline crack at a weld joint after 2 years of abuse running it down dh tracks that it wasnt really designed for! Due to it being alloy it wasnt a catastrophic failure that couldve landed me in hospital.
Ive got a saracen myst just now and im experiencing problems with the carbon swingarm. Think im getting the carbon fear! Haha
My decision is starting to sway towards the tr500.
Has anyone else had any issues with the carbon operator??
Seeing quite a few on my local dh tracks so i guess theyve hit the nail on the head with the magic formula (style+performance+great price=rad!)
I guess i just need to get over my unfounded fear of carbon! Haha
Id still love to see the tr500 in the flesh before arriving at a decision though.
Both brands get my love!
First of all there is no reason to be worried about carbon any more than about any other material. Some frames will crack no matter what material or brand. Just call them Monday-bikes. There is no way of doing a 100% QC and having no mistakes in production so there will always be faulty product hitting the market. Nature of the game. but we are not talking fragile 1990 components any more that splinter if you look at them the wrong way. technology evolved (a lot)
And Yes, Carbon Fiber can be repaired but the result will not be as strong as the original was. Its a highly complicated process requiring specialized personal with specialized equipment just to detect the complete area of damage. Hence this will be very very expensive to do. Usually much much more extensive than replacing the frame or wheel or whatever.
In aeronautics its usually only done in large non-stuctual parts like body panels which due to there size are very expensive to produce and i am not taking 3000USD expensive, i am talking buy a nice car expensive.... Anything structural gets replaced.
Armchair Engineers check this out for an overview:
www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aircraft/amt_airframe_handbook/media/ama_Ch07.pdf
On an alloy frame you might be able to find a good welder to weld your frame up, heat threat it so the tensions are gone...
Anyway best would be to hope for a good warranty or crash replacement policy at the the brand of your choice and forget about ever riding that broken frame again. Repairing by no means will be cheap either and you are risking your health!
I did mention that my worries over carbon were "unfounded".
Just a mental block i need to get over. I am quite aware that any bike can break when exposed to the rigours of dh riding. I have had problems with both alloy and carbon.
Was simply asking opinions to try and weigh up the pros and cons between my next two most desired bikes - the carbon operator vs tr500
Thanks for the input tho. Gotta love a good PB debate! Dont wanna start a world war 3 tho! ;-) lol
A lot of people don't even know what Carbon fiber is or how its produced but might be interested.
Sure enough to read FAA documents you need a certain kind of geekines but maybe some can enjoy it as whatever those guys write is certainly free of marketing (BS) influences
bikes like the Wilson benefit from a very aggressive riding style going full power, flat out and sideways!
otherwise, very capable but somewhat of a handful
dirtmountainbike.com/dirt100-2014/dirt-100-2014-trek-session-9-9.html#!boZcXD
That said, 10mm drop is probably pretty good, & I'm surprised he ran it that way with the 26" wheels: starts getting really easy to bash pedals & BB with that much drop on a 26". I imagine the slacker setting is partially meant as the proper setting for 650b.
I feel like Transitions are awesome bikes when you own when and ride it all the time, but then you get a new bike and you realize that it really wasn't actually that special. Going from a 450 to a V10 was eye opening to me.
vimeo.com/86739965
yeah --- TBC aren't made here in the states, where they ever? not sure... been selling them for at least 10 years but I don't recall the history of where they were actually made. ** side note --- I do remember the day I learned Santa Cruz were made in Taiwan... I bought 3 SuperLite's at the same time... just happened to open one box up-side-down ---- big fat sticker/label and the BB shell ---- "MADE IN TAIWAN" no longer saying MADE IN USA.. that was a real WFT moment since I was still paying the MADE IN USA price tag.
Currently in the market for a big bike and torn between TR500 and a Podium.
I really don't want to start the same old discussion so and I am really hesitant to ask... lets see how we could phrase that best... which tire dimensions did you run and did you try other too?
and the bike is realy fast, agile and smoth, faster than the 450 i had before by far
I love the raw frame but i am keen to see the other colourways too. Post a pic please!
there you go mate, bike of the day saturday