Exclusive - Devinci Wilson Carbon - Sneak Peek

 It's about time they made a carbon frame. Now Stevie Smith can rip more shit up!!!

 I'm lovin the colour. Damn that looks good P.S. Dave Weagle looks stoked

 Really? I think he looks exasperated, like Mike Levy just asked him "so, you make bike bits yeah?"

 saw it about a week ago at the LBS, it looks SICK!

 Sex on wheels. I want 2. My wallet can afford 1/2.

 POD! That would be one of the nicest looking bikes ever if it had 40s!

 lol. my wallet could barely afford the valve caps. damn maccas pay, one day...

 smiths been on a carbon for a while now hasnt he?

 yea they tend to give the riders the carbon before they let any one know. for example the carbon demo sam was riding it way before specialized came forward

 I saw steeve smith's bike at MSA and he didn't have the carbon frame. On the Pictures from Val d'isere, it seems he has the aluminium frame too, he'll probably have it for world's

 that C.F. Wilson looks sick

I had the pleasure of riding one of the first aluminium alloy Wilson SP bikes available and it was inspiring

cannot imagine how good the C.F. Wilson SP will ride??


currently riding a C.F. Stumpjumper and C.F. BMC Road Master (road bike) and both are stunning rides way beyond anything I have ridden in aluminium alloys

bring on the C.F. for the Downhill bikes

 It kind of reminds me of the Niner Jet 9 RDO in orange and black with that seat-tube gusset. That bike looks funky but this one pulls it off, it's beautiful!

 I think we can safely say you did not see this in your local bike shop ... unless your lbs is the devinci factory

 It wasn't for sale, the devinci rep came in and he had one in his van, so yes i did see it.

 I'm sure he's been testing them already

 dhracer433 I know it's a few year old post but funny to look back on it and see what happened in the 2013 season, love gwinn though he is a champ for sure

 

 I know what that means! thanks urban dictionary

 GASP

 Thrown that word out there all the time here in Australia and I get blank looks. Miss you Canada!

 its just a curse word we use here ,you can use it wen your happy or mad i was just talking 2 weeks ago about wen devinci would make a carbon frame ,here it is and it looks cool

 Tabernak is one of the most versatile curse word of all: you can use it as a verb, a noun and an adjective. it's like the All Mountain of words.

 gotta love being french canadian.

 Wouldn't say its a word "we" use.. just Quebec. -_-

 if only he could spell it right ...c'est TABARNAK criss de calisse d'osti de st-ciboire!!! hope you took some notes

 Its not Tabernack, it's TABARNAK, for christ sake !!!! I think, im getting tired....

 rolf trop drole ostie!!!!

 Neg propped as always, typical pinkbike

 Does it really bother you ? have a -1

 Hahahaaha....

 I guess it does , here have +1 this should improve your life a bit

 Thanks, greatly improved my life -_-

 to those who think my first comment was about the pictures your WRONG i was refering to somthing else -_-

 It's also often used as an exclamation mark at the end of a sentence tabarnak!

 just stop

 i agree i dont mind sram but i find that shimano makes a better product

 Saint and a fox 40 and there is a perfect bike!

 i like fox but i prefer boxxer WC

 With it being lighter would he of completed the front flip or under rotated more ? P

 he figured out the layup of the carbon

 I think I just found my next bike! I'm in love!

 SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!!

 Are you sure about that?

 You can try.... ;-)

 Sand finish with ghost graphics.

 half the challenge with a demo is gonna be finding one. there only suppost to produce 250 of the frames.

 nah thats the team carbon i think, arent they making other ones too?

 If I remember correctly, the one they're doing 250 of is the team replica. The "regular" CF frame won't be too hard to get your hands on.

 Everybody does aluminum alloy frames and I don't really see them going cheaper by the year...

 *have, typed too fast

 Gwin wins every world cup, it doesn't make anything else than trek sessions a piece of crap now does it?

 not sure how that relates to what I said maybe im misreading... what im saying is you cant say devinci knows their carbon from road because their road bikes havent won anything, your saying that a trek is the same as any other downhill bike... which if you want to go off topic that is true if the trek doesnt fit you well but an M9 does guess which one you'll be faster on

 you dont need to win pro tour or tour de france to have state of the art product and knowing carbon pretty well .having a pro on a podium only show that you have $$$ to spend on a team .having a good product come from poeple with experience in ing. and a lot of testing and good manufacturing facilities+quality control.

 My point is that you can't rely on podiums to sort out what's good and what's not. It's only an indicator of who has the most money to spend on a team, as mazoboy said. The trek reference was merely to point out that a "winning bike" isn't necessarily the best bike... especially with the sessions for reasons you might have heard of.

 you do have a good point there, that specialized roubaix has won tour of flanders (very high profile one day belgian classic) five years in a row yet that roubaix is one of the flexier bikes out there.... but still I had a devinci leo sl and found it poor handling and having a spongy ride so you cant say they know their carbon from the road lineup

 Possibly, when I was shopping a few years ago, found a deal on a devinci CX. It was quite expensive though for the parts it had and the reviews said you were better off with a good alu frame so I passed. Don't know if they upped their game ever since, I'd guess so but is it good enough? Can't tell as I don't really care about road bikes, I only use mine as commuter for work hehe.

 less weight higher stiffness, whats not to gain (besides if you crash in a rock garden say bye to your carbon)

 Don't suppose it was a black frame n u came up short on the chatel river gap???

 I have the warranty one now so yup that was me!

 I can't be certain but one thing about Devinci is they pride themselves on doing everything in house, from frames to testing to their derailleur hangers. I'm hoping and thinking that they are still following this trend with their carbon.

 it looks definitely the most "Value For Money" Carbon DH bikes from the most stable DH bike (lower center of gravity).

 Carbon has come a long way. This video really helps build confidence in the material.. pretty amazing, actually.
www.pinkbike.com/news/santa-cruz-bicycles-test-lab.html

 wow thats cool

 carbon can be repaired.

 I really impress with the video of Santa Cruz Carbon.

 I don't think it's made in North America....Likely it's made in China. Even Giant have a facility in China now due to cost. That's saying something.

 I just bought an x9 trigger. Almost puked when I saw it was made in China. Even SRAM are jumping ship, after all Taiwan has done for them!

 Push them funny parts on us. Bike is like a map of the world produced in asia, tested in europe and designed in north america. Hopefully china have some quality control this time.

 I can tell you with absolute certainty that the Wilson is handmade in Canada. Not only does my frame have a sticker that says so, but I know a few guys who have toured the facilities.

 Rules of origin, look it up. That sticker means nothing.

 My parents own an international manufacturing corporation so let me pass on 20 years of their knowledge for your education. To label a product as made in Canada it must in fact be made in Canada. The materials and components need not be made in Canada, if they are the product would be labelled "Product of Canada".

"Made in Canada" claims will remain subject to a 51% threshold of Canadian content but should be accompanied by a qualifying statement indicating that the product contains imported content. In both cases, the last substantial transformation of the product must have occurred in Canada.

Ergo, any product that claims to be "Made in Canada" must have gone through its last phase of production within Canadian borders and though not typically enforced it must be accompanied with documentation that states that components were sourced from outside of Canada. This can be accomplished by labelling as such or by offering documentation of sourcing upon request.

Sources:

Government of Canada

Rules might be a little different here than in the ROC. Many parts are formed or manufactured in other countries, however Devinci does in fact HAND BUILD every single Wilson frame.

 It's open to interpretation. The last stage of manufacture could be painting. They could pop the moulds in China or here, ship there for finishing. Is that 51% by weight, volume, time, manufacture cost, final value? Does anyone ever check?
I prefer Taiwanese frames because I live here. I'm not having a go at Devinci, but it is hard to believe any business can really be made in Canada and stay afloat. The best, and cheapest, manufacturing facilities are in Asia.
Maybe Devinci can clear this up with a step by step factory walkthrough of the Wilson being manufactured in their Canadian facility. I would be happy to be proven wrong.

 I re read my original post. I admit I used the word "nothing" flippantly. What I meant was, "next to nothing". The term "Product of Canada" is what most people would consider to be made in Canada. To me, made in Canada should be, the materials are sourced in Canada, the processing is entirely carried out in Canada. According to your research, "Made in Canada" does not mean this. It means, the final stage of manufacture was performed in Canada. That's my point. The actual frame is not made in Canada. It is made elsewhere, and then the final stage of manufacture is carried out in Canada. Painting it in Canada could be enough to legally claim it is made in Canada. If it were actually made in Canada, it would ay "Product of Canada" on the sticker. I think it's probably made in China, maybe Taiwan.

 link?

 If they do, it like everyone else that does it is merely a marketing tool, and that it only covers DEFECTS in workmanship or material. It doesn't cover rider abuse, crashes, or fatigue failures. Honestly, most people don't seem to grasp that if there was an actual defect in a frame, it would show up in the first 50 hours of riding... not at hour thousand and something....

 This is completely untrue. It depends on the type of defect, location of defect and thickness of tubing (for aluminum). The cracks grow with each stress cycle but the rate of growth is different depending on the variables above. Lots of frames fail due to bad welds after many hours of use.

 I can tell you as a matter of facts devinci does honor pretty well their warranties.

 And I can tell you they don't, they refused to warranty a frame of mine based on the fact that they thought it was rider abuse when in fact it was an overheated weld that caused my frame to fail (random hole near the BB welds). I'm in Quebec, I bought that thing in a Devinci dealers store, and they flat out refused and stated I should buy the exact frame for MSRP of 1500$ instead of offering a crash replacement. I was thinking good little Canadian company, I got screwed over.

 Sucks to be you mate! And judging by your pictures, i would call it abuse as well. These frames where very light and indeed very thin. One rock on the wrong place and kaboom. The newer model comes with a skid plate... No wonder!

 My friend's chainstay's on his DH bike (not a devinci) tore open after 2.5 years of use. He's the smoothest rider I know and I've never seen anyone take care of his bike that much and his bike broke when he was riding on a flat trail. Another friend who doesn't ride all that fast and isn't a hack exploded his rear linkage after like over 2 years or riding (wasn't a devinci either). Sometimes it's hard to tell if it's a manufacturing defect, bad engineering or "normal" wear but they don't always blow up after 50h if they have to. Of course, DH bikes get more punishment but I've seen it happen after a long while on road bikes too.

@ m47h13u: No weld defects will cause a puncture like that. You definitely hit a rock. If it was a welding problem it would have made a clean crack.

 its actually the mid range model show here the equivalent of the wilson rc from this year model .the full blow xo is the sl model not show here .

 None, it isnt ally

 Pics or it didn't happen.

 Darn, r u sure that is the original Wilson?

 yup 100% legit,,, bit worrying . glad i didnt sell my flatline to get one..

 Btw 2 bad its not full carbon ... we get a lower carbon swing arm next year as an update ?

 TBA= Those Bitches Actually (think we can afford that)

 Might as well go fox 36 kashima. Don't want heavy totems on this ;p

 Careful, you don't want it too light, it might float off.

 a new Totem air is only 1 pound heavier than a 36 float 180mm...

 ***ONLY*** 1 pound???

 It's also lighter, and crucially better looking, than any double crown fork.

 to be exact it's 257 grams heavier than the lightest Fox 180mm fork (Float RC2)... and it's lighter than the Fox Van RC2 180mm coil by 53grams...

 And which one of those is a double crown fork?