Random Products Part Three - Interbike 2012

Sep 19, 2012 at 1:50
by Mike Levy  

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Devinci Dixon Carbon

Devinci Dixon Carbon
Steve Smith's World Cup winning Wilson Carbon has garnered most of the attention in the Devinci booth, and rightfully so, but there are other bikes that deserve a more than a mere mention. One of them is the 145mm travel Dixon Carbon shown here, an entirely new model for 2013 that uses Weagle's Split Pivot suspension combined with a carbon fiber front triangle and seat stay assembly. The adjustable geometry remains the same as found on the aluminum Dixon - a 67°/67.5° head angle and a 13.7"/13.9" bottom bracket height - but Devinci claims that the front triangle alone weighs in at 1207 grams, compared to 1411 grams for the aluminum model. Factor in the bike's carbon seat stay assembly that tips the scales at 295 grams, 145 less than the aluminum stays, and you get a total weight savings of 395 grams (0.7lb). While the weight reduction over the aluminum model isn't drastic, the frame's lifetime warranty is likely to score it major points with potential Dixon Carbon owners.

Devinci Atlas Carbon

As any well-sorted bike in this travel bracket should have, the Dixon Carbon sports ISCG-05 chain guide tabs that make going to a single ring, or mounting a dual ring guide, easy as pie. A closer look reveals more detail, though, with Devinci designing-in a wily system of replaceable barrel inserts at each guide-mounting point that will keep ham fisted mechanics from causing irreparable damage. A slot machined into the outer face of each one allows you to align them correctly during installation.

Dixon Carbon geometry

www.devinci.com




e.13 TRSr cranks

TRSr cranks
e*thirteen's TRS+ lineup is aimed at hard charging trail riders and enduro racers who need relatively light components that will stand up to some serious abuse when bolted to a mid-travel bike. The new TRSr crankset pictured here falls under that umbrella, and features some truly interesting design points that make it a standout to us. Their most obvious feature is the bolt-less spider that attaches directly at the base of the arm via a lockring. The design saves some serious weight, allowing the arms and spindle alone to come in at just 501 grams (claimed). We don't have a figure for the single ring pictured above, but it's safe to assume that it is far lighter than a spider/ring/bolt combination that is the norm. e*thirteen plans to offer enough ring sizes to keep everyone happy, as well as an XX1-compatible series (minus the X-Sync tooth profile). The TRSr cranks can be fitted with an optional spider that allows you to run standard rings as well.

e.13 crankset

All of e*thirteen's cranksets, including the TRS+ series, use their 'P3 Connect Interface'; a polygon shaped spindle and arm interface that is said to provide an extremely stiff junction that won't creak or deform over time. Bearing tension adjustment has been much improved for 2013, with a threaded adjustable ring on the non-drive side that replaces the series of washers required by the previous version. The 'Adaptive Preload System' allows you to tune bearing tension without removing the left crank arm, sans tools, by simply turning the preload ring with your fingers. A locking spring clip automatically keeps the collar from backing off as you ride.
www.e13components.com




No-Drip Chain Luber

No-Drip Chain Luber
New bikes and components are great, but sometimes it's the little things that are the most interesting, especially when you wish that you had thought of it yourself. This is the case with Left Field Designs' No-Drip Chain Luber, a clever little unit that could be one of the more practical items at the show.

The idea is simple enough: a standard squeeze bottle has been fitted with a special nozzle that allows you to lube your chain without over-doing it. The red-coloured unit atop the bottle is shaped to fit directly over the chain, acting as a guide to keep you from spreading lube where it isn't required - on the side plates. A thin, spun polypropene pad is positioned between the nozzle tip and the chain, diffusing chain lube over top the chain and allowing it to be applied directly where it is needed - on the rollers. Five pads are included with the system, but we expect each one to last quite awhile.

At just $10 - $12 USD it's inexpensive enough that, if it works as advertised, it makes sense to have in the tool box, especially considering that an overly-lubed chain will cause premature drivetrain wear. We've snagged a test unit from the show and you'll be able to read about how it performs in an upcoming Product Picks article.
www.leftfielddesign.net




Pinarello Dogma hardtail

Pinarello Dogma XC
And now for something completely different... Pinarello is a name widely known in road circles, and saying that there is quite a bit of history behind the brand would be an understatement, but the Italian company may be new to many mountain bikers. Their 1050 gram (medium size, claimed) carbon fiber Dogma XC frame features a few interesting elements that had us getting out the camera, including its rather strange looking rear triangle. What exactly is going on back there?

Pinarello calls the design (deep breath required here) 'ONDA XC Asymmetric Twin Arms', which is basically a fancy way of saying that the left and ride side seat stays are not aligned. The idea is that the separation between the two allows the frame to better dissipate vibrations over a larger area, thereby making for a slightly smoother ride. It isn't a new theory - there have been many variations on this thought over the years - but Pinarello's is likely the most unique. We have no idea if the system works, but it sure does look interesting. The design also employs a seat post clamp that is worth a second look, with a faceplate that clamps down on the post with four bolts. The large surface area of the faceplate, along with the four bolts, should spread out clamping forces and require far less pressure to hold the post in postion.

Pinarello hardtail

There is yet more to this Italian flyer, though, with a rather strange looking red fin protruding from the down tube just aft of the fork. Pinarello wanted to position their down tube lower relative to the head tube and bottom bracket, but ran into an issue with the fork crown making contact with the tube in the event of a crash, an issue that could have dire consequences to the frame if it hits hard enough. To prevent this, Pinarello designed a bolt-on unit, called the 'ForkStopper' that protects the down tube from damage. The piece is replaceable if damaged.
www.pinarello.com




G Form

G-Form protection
G-Form padding utilizes 'RPT-Reactive Protection Technology' that allows the padding to remain soft and flexible during use, but instantly harden upon an impact. While there are other pads out there that function in a similar fashion, G-Form takes a lightweight and slim approach with their offerings that makes them popular with trail riders who don't feel the need for heavy and hot padding intended for pure downhill use. G-Form offers a number of different products for mountain biking, including knee, shin, and elbow pads, shorts that integrate side and tailbone protection, and an upper body suit with built in shoulder, side and chest protection. They are also working on hard shell padding that integrates with their RPT-Reactive material, but expect the finished product to continue with the slim and lightweight design ethos of their current offerings. Looking to protect your iPhone? The new X-Protect case (pictured above) uses the same padding, and is available in a number of different colour options for $39.99 USD.
g-form.com




Park Tool

Park Tool
We have to give a shout out to the folks at Park Tool for keeping the crowds hydrated during the Outdoor Demo. Being in the Nevada desert, the event is always a warm affair, but the consensus seems to be that this year's furnace-like temperatures had everyone feeling as if they were on the surface of the sun. Park Tool's blue tent is located right before passing through the entry gate, allowing attendees to have a sit-down in the shade, slam some water, and cool off a bit before checking out the new bikes and components on display. Water has never tasted as good as it does when standing in the blue-tinted shade.
www.parktool.com




Motorex grease and lube

Motorex grease and oil
The Swiss company's Grease Spray (above, left) is usually thought of for motorized applications, but it also makes a lot of sense for use on certain parts of a mountain bike. The aerosol can and needle applicator allows you to get in to hard to reach places, with the grease being discharged as a thin solution that can creep into areas where tight tolerances would otherwise make application either difficult or impossible. Once in, the grease congeals to a thicker consistency. As pictured on the can, the ideal use for Moterex's Spray Grease is likely the sealed pivot bearings of a full suspension bike, allowing you to give them some love without having to press them out of the frame. Simply remove the pivot hardware, carefully pry off the outer seal, clean the bearing, and then give it a blast of Spray Grease. We're eager to give it a go, so stay tuned to find out if the spray is effective. In other, somewhat less interesting news, their chain lube bottles (above, right) now use a finer point that allows for more precise application.
www.motorexusa.com




Vee Rubber 27.5 tires

Vee Rubber
With the onslaught of 27.5"-wheeled bikes, it seems as if tire manufacturers are debuting new 'tweener-sized tires every other day. Vee Rubber is right there as well, with a number of different tread options available to suit most people's needs. From left, the Master Blaster is intended for all-around use, while the 2.4" wide Trail Taker next to it is clearly designed for more aggressive riders and softer terrain. Intended for the exact opposite sort of surfaces, the dual compound 12 looks like a very fast rolling tire choice for hard conditions. Finally, we have the 8, with its wide and low knobs that strike a balance between the previous two tires.
veerubber.co.th


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79 Comments

  • + 77
 Instead of figuring out how to make "new" good stuff, how about cheaper good stuff.
  • + 97
 Are you new to the bike industry?
  • + 29
 That's idiotic... Compare the lowest end group available today to the very best group available five years ago and you'd be hard pressed to notice a performance difference. There is an unbelievable amount of performance available at the low-end of the price range these days...
  • + 11
 10 speed x5 for one, deore disk brakes another and don't forget shimano z, plus all the new forks at the lower end . Just to name a few
  • + 11
 Your argument doesn't hold up when you take durability into account though, top end from 5 years ago will still be going strong when new bottom end gives up the ghost.
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  • + 22
 Once again, us tall folks get the shaft on the sizing chart... No XL carbon Intense Carbines, no XL carbon Covert, and now the carbon Dixon....

Who told these people tall people hate riding sweet bikes?!?
  • + 39
 you need to go play basketball
  • + 38
 Short men don't get to date supermodels either
  • + 3
 short men do get to be fighter pilots though... hang out at an airshow sometime... watch the pilots leaving jet cockpits after display routines... 5'10 would be gigantic for one of them.
  • + 5
 I agree, it sucks, but I can see how the huge cost of carbon moulds mean that smaller manufacturers can only really produce frames in sizes that will sell enough to justify it.

Also worth mentioning that Transition owner and all-round nice guy Kevin Menard is really tall himself - about 6'4 or something. They do an XL Bandit - I'm 6'5 and it's what I ride! Big Grin
  • + 10
 I'll become a surgeon who specializes in femur reduction.
  • + 3
 I feel you buddy at 6'6" i do play basketball also, however i am in the same situation. If it helps Kona makes 22" frames for a lot of there bikes including new process, cadabra, and satori 29er.
  • + 3
 I went XL tallboy LTc, fits perfectly. I'm 6'3". Hard to find big bikes, mostly in the downhill used market.
  • - 9
 Tall people should be banned from riding bikes as their bikes look ridiculous and give normal sized bikers a bad name.
  • + 2
 All good Zziplex, just hate on tall people. Its not like Steve Peat or Josh Bryceland are tall or anything. Its not like being sizeist makes you look like a douche or anything.
  • + 1
 Word. I'm 6'4'' and I tried my best to make it work on a Giant Glory size Large, but its just too cramped. Santa Cruz bikes may come at a premium price, but they offer most if not all of their line in XL (including the carbon models). I'm saving up to do a frame swap over to a XL v10c.

On a totally unrelated note, anyone want to by a slightly used Giant Glory 00 frame size L? Smile
  • + 2
 If it makes you feel any better, many 29er manufacturers discriminate against short people, just by pushing 29ers as heavily as they do. Santa Cruz doesn't even bother to offer the tallboy carbon any smaller than a medium frame as an example and Trek had Emily Batty racing on a superlite than even in their "smallest" production frame size, she needs to run a negative 25 degree stem and flat bar to get her body in the right position to attack on climbs (and climbing is where XC races are always won & lost). I bet by the time Sea Otter happens, they'll have unveiled their new 650B 2013 1/2 year models and Emily will be riding one of them.
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  • + 20
 I don't get why people are looking for the slimmest phones, and then wrap them in a protective shell that makes them x100 bigger!
  • + 21
 I don't care about phone slimness, I just want a good phone i can throw from a moving vehicle
  • + 6
 Because if you put a bulky phone in a protective shell then 100 x bulky is a super brick.
  • + 1
 taletotell - Sony Ericsson Xperia Active - dustproof, waterproof, and if you look on youtube you'll find a guy who hits the glass with a hammer, tries to scratch it with a knife, skips it like a stone across a carpark puddle including the asphalt, and finally runs over it with his Jeep.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92CvRflk18

I love mine so much that I'm thinking of buying a second just in case they stop making them. The only choice for MTBers.
  • + 1
 cool. I might try that phone in three or four years if I switch to android (which I think about sometimes and will probably do when I buy a tablet some day). In the mean time, my iphone has taken a beating pretty well in its big bulky case
  • + 1
 Lifeproof.com really expensive but keeps your phone safe from anything
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  • + 16
 Don't get me wrong this stuff is good , but it's the same old shit on a different day!
  • + 65
 Except for the chain lube applicator....that will revolutionize the industry!
  • + 2
 the biggest innovation this year is 650B!!!, don't expect to see something more exciting than that!.
but on a more serious note i can't wait for the thomson dropper !(fingers crossed that it will not be a fap like the kronolog)
  • + 11
 a fap you say? Big Grin
  • + 2
 It's yiddish for flop. 650b is actually at least 4 or 5 years old for MTBs so it's not an innovation, it's just going mainstream finally.
  • + 4
 you youngsters think they'll phase out the 26? i'm old but still see no reason not to love 26 over 29 or 650b. hell, i still like to ride 20s w/my kiddo!
  • + 4
 Same here Fullbug, I still ride my 20inch that used to race in Houston 25 years ago with my boy and have a 29r xc and my dh 26 all of them are fun. Cheers!!
  • + 0
 Actually isnt 650b the tyre size that would have been standard had the tyre availability been better? (I cant remember if it is that size or not, it wasnt 26'' though).
  • + 2
 You're right. It was just arbitrary. As I understand it 26 just happened to be available and it wasn't by design. It's worked out well all these years though.
  • + 0
 Sorry to disappoint but i don't speak yiddish!, i meant fap as a fAp!.
didn't you guy's watch the ritchey video (it's on movies for your mondays)?
www.xtremecanada.com/Archive/b-mtb19471987.html, 650B has always been present but it's considered as an innovation at 2012, whats next steel frames?,or better yet the return of lycra to DH?
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  • + 11
 TRSr cranks. Polygon shaped spindle? Polygon is not a specific shape it is a shape comprised of multiple lines. Every spindle is a polygon.
  • - 4
 So what you're saying is that it is a polygon, and that is it polygon-shaped. If every single spindle is a polygon, then so too is this one.

What you probably meant to say is that it's not special. Wink
  • + 3
 wow, something so new, not like Middleburn have been making the crank/chanring this way for over 10 years!
  • + 1
 Some are round
  • - 1
 No one ever said it was new. Shimano used a bolt-on spider on their M950 series 8 and 9 speed cranks back in the mid 90s.
  • + 2
 Fuglio, the crank arm interface area of a spindle is never round. There has to be some sort of flat angled edge area or else the crank arm would never stay in one place. Unless you're using some sort of weird antiquated cotter pin style crank...
  • + 3
 Actually shimano didn't use a bolt on-spider...they used a splined spider that was held in place with a lockring. That was in 1996. Also on the 4-bolt XTR the outer ring was also the spider that the inner/middle bolted to.

As to the polygon interface at the crank/spindle... its also a TWENTY plus year old idea. Grove Innovations did it first, and they too talked about how tank transmissions use the same interface to the drive shaft/drive sprocket.

www.bikepro.com/products/cranks/grove.html
  • - 1
 Yeah, whatever. I have the cranks on my Santa Cruz Jackal BMX. My point is that the spider was separate from the crank arm. I also have a brand new XTR DH chain ring/spider.
  • + 2
 Actually the polygon interface at the crank spindle/spider is much older than 20 years and Grove Innovations Hot Rods cranks were not the first in the bicycle industry to use it. We have actually seen a similar interface on a crankset found on an Iver-Johnson Bicycle from the early 1900's (they were a firearms/bicycle company). The DIN standard that our P3 Connect interface is based on "DIN 32711 - P3 polygon interface" which is commonly used in high-torque industrial applications (including transmission parts on Austrian Tanks in WW II).

Regarding the XTR spider on the m950 series of the product - It was a 1 piece spider/big ring that had a splined interface at the crank (held on with a lock ring). Spot Brand (and some others) made an aftermarket 1 piece SS ring/spider for it that were pretty sweet!

We are not claiming to have invented anything new here....only saying that the TRSr crank is a nice, stiff and really light crankset with some neat technical features.

Cheers - Chris @ The Hive
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  • + 9
 as italian, all i can say is: never buy a pinarello mtb..
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  • + 7
 At Last!...Ghostbusters Chain Lube...
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  • + 2
 I remember years ago when that G-Form and RPT (or a product simillar to it) came out and was going to "completely change SKI racing rpotection" as it offered flexibility under normal circ. and then was instantly rock-solid when struck (like that "ubleck" stuff you made as a kid) and then I never really heard about it again. Have I been under a rock??? Have people been using their products or anything like it and I've missed it??? Seems like 2-3 years ago it was all the rage in MTB as well but I NEVER see anyone riding with the stuff. (or maybe Mark Weir was using their knee pads last time I saw him... I'm SO confused) Seems like a REALLY cool tech. advance 9and a downright BRILLANT product), but is there something about it thatmakes it not work??? Too hot/non-breathable??? I'd think flexible clothing that could then BECOME a hard protection item would be REALLY perfect for like Enduro or ANY sport where you need that kind of protection and mobility.

They've been working on using this stuff in the Military/Emergency Services world for the last few years and I think it has TONS of promise aye.
  • + 1
 Most of the pads out there that use some sort of reactive material tend to be beefy and intended for aggressive use - I think that 661 do a model, as well as POC? G-Form's pads are different in that they are far slimmer, although not as protective as full-on DH/BMX type pads. I chose the G-Form knee pads as my favorite product last year; great stuff.
  • + 1
 Awesome, thanks for the info aye... That's kinda what I wonderd about the burlier stuff (661 was the MTB company I was thinking about but couldn't come up with) cause it reinds me of like high-school gym wrestling mats when its soft and I can amagine how sweatly it coud get without proper ventiation. Is the the G-form stuff simillar in being RPT based, and just lighter and "lower durometer" for a lack of a better term??? Or is it another invention completely??? Coll stuff either way, I love the concept behind it, it;s so "futuristic and kinda "bat-many" if I can believe I just used that term...
  • + 1
 i've been using the knee pads for about 8 months or so now, they really, really work! brilliant at the jumps under jeans and i wore them when i was riding around the alps this summer as well, so i didn't have to take them off climbing, which meant less stopping, which meant more flowy riding!
  • + 1
 g-form is great i still rock the biger knee and elbow pads but the shorts and shirt are seller. iv shredded my jersey over my shoulder and just a little busing under the pad. just wish it had a little spine protection with it. but still thinking the knee pads might be just the thing to where under pants. also when it +30 lets see you rock that pressure suite, g-form is much cooler
  • + 1
 Sounds like they're a winner aye, thanks for the info guys... I LOVE the sound of hese pads aye.
  • + 2
 I bought the D3O pads from 661 this year. They breathe good enough, no chaffing and they hold in place. Best knee pads I've ever had so far. Crashed a few times and never felt anything but they were fairly light crashes. I'm wondering how they'd fare in a high speed rock garden crash but I don't really intend on testing it myself...
  • + 1
 Yeah that's the problem with pads... It's all kind of an assumption cause who's gonna go out and yard all over a skree field just to find that ONE little spot where you get a major flesh-would Wink HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Thanks for the info on the 661's, I have 661 Hybrid Hard/Soft kne/shin's right now and I love'm, but I'd like something that isn't that bulky for all day-ers or one of the Enduro loops/tracks around here.
  • + 1
 Rode them for hours in deadly summer heat/humidity combo, the kind of days that make you question how bad you want to ride... Your knees will get sweaty a little but it doesn't make the pads slide around. It never happened that I wished I had lighter pads even if I could probably get away with less protection. I actually figured I'd use them as knee warmers during fall/winter but at this point I'm not even sure they'll do the job as decent warmers haha. I think they're great for someone who doesn't do heavy downhill but would like a little more protection in the harder sections, without having something too bulky.
  • + 1
 HAHAHAHA Well that certainly IS something to say about how well they breathe then aye. I've got a heavier set-up that'll do if I'm feeling like a date with the ricks is iminent. Pads get hot, aye, it's gonna happen, but if they don't slide then that kinda makes it a null issue for me. I played soccer for 15 years, I can take a sweaty guard as long as it stays in place and serves a purpose (and not going through thousands of feet of tape a year to KEEP them in place is nice too). I thnk some of these "new fangled pads" are in my future, thans for the info Wink
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  • + 2
 The no drip chain lube is for idiots who dont know how to do the simplest thing on their bike, lube their chain, but the spray grease on the other hand is genius!!! Perfect for all my cartridge bearings!
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  • + 1
 The only important/interesting thing in this article is the threaded barrels on the ISCG tabs on the Dixon. I've been saying for ages that someone needs to introduce this system on post-type brake mounts on forks and frames. I see countless forks with stripped brake mount threads (steel bolt, magnesium thread?!?) and threaded barrels would stop that massive problem straight away.
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  • + 1
 Every time I see a crank with razor edges machined into it I cringe.

I've got some Huzzefelt cranks and every time I ride that bike I take the skin off my bones on ths insides of my ankles on the protruding writing when I pedal.

These e13 cranks also have sharp edges on the faces. How can you ride a bike with flip flops if you've got those edges there?

Take a leaf out of shimano and Sram's books, and make crank faces smooth and round FFS!
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  • + 4
 SweetM'fucking enduro bike. Those frame's are getting hotter and hotter
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  • + 3
 I'm actually pretty stoked about the No-Drip Chain Luber! Looking forward to getting my hands on one some day.
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  • + 2
 I preordered the chain lube before I finished reading the article. Just what I've been needing!
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  • + 1
 Anyone know how can i buy this "No-Drip Chain Luber" with shipping to Poland ( Europe ) ?
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  • + 1
 Youd think a tire co would at least bring tires with knobs that line up properly... unless all their tires are like that
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  • + 1
 Not Much market for xl bike. I am 6.2 and i ride a large giant glory frame and it s perfect.
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  • + 1
 That chain lube idea seems pretty practical, wouldn't mind trying one out myself
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  • + 2
 I gotta get a set of those G-forms
  • + 1
 I'm interested in it as well. BUT, it doesn't look like it would do much if the phone was dropped on edge. I'll stick with my Griffin Survivor Case for my 4S. Their web site shows them holding the phone on edge and giving it a good toss down a parking lot. The G-form still looks like it would hang up sliding it in and out of a pants pocket but my Griffin does too.
  • + 1
 I meant the suit. I ride dome with gloves, and if I feel like doing something stupid knee/shin and fullface... would be nice to have some protection. I can't stand full race suits.
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  • + 1
 No one mentioned the price tag on the Pinarello, I wonder why....
  • + 1
 that is a seriously sweet looking XC bike... amazing engineering . About the sam feeling when cannondale release their "pivot-less" dual suspension XC bike
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  • - 3
 I keep wanting to see something new, something exciting! It does not have to be some amazing never before seen technology, but so far out of the three days of random pics nothing is wowing me! What about things like the new roam from BM bikes or something along those lines?
  • + 42
 Dude some one put a bit of sponge on the end of a tub of oil , what more do you want ?
  • + 2
 It's the dirt demo. Most of the revolutionary Earth-shattering stuff will be at the floor show.
  • + 3
 To be honest I thought the spiderless TRSr cranks and the drip-free lube applicator were pretty smart. Of course they aren't as sexy as a new frame, but they are pretty cool in their own right...
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  • + 2
 seriously pinarelo?
  • + 2
 The word 'Pinarello' in English means "solution in search of a problem". I never went for their swoopy Dogma carbon road frames either. Flamboyant and useless Italian 'design'. Wish they'd stop, their bikes are visual pollution (that goes for Wiggo too).
  • + 1
 Actually the fork stopper is a rather good idea, a number of times I have baled and my forks have got twisted around, thus stretching cables = not good
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  • + 1
 im either guna go for the devinci Dixon CF or the Transition covert CF
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