Last year's World Championships in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa, saw all sorts of prototype equipment designed to give racers the edge on the big day, a lot of which will eventually become production parts that you'll be able to purchase, as well as a few items that won't ever be available to anyone not on a factory race bike. Pinkbike gave you
the first and only in-depth look at FOX's prototype RAD DH shock from that weekend, and at the time it looked as if the very special damper might never be made available for purchase. In fact, prodding FOX late last year on the same subject saw us get the silent treatment, with them not willing to comment on the shock's future. Fast forward to last weekend's New Zealand National Championships where Trek World Racing's Brook Macdonald had
his prototype 650B Session fitted with what appears to be an evolved version of the same shock we spotted at last year's World Champs event. What does it mean? This latest version is much more polished and appears to be pretty close to consumer ready, which are both not so subtle hints that it will eventually reach production.
The prototype FOX RAD shock on Brook's bike offers separate low-speed and high-speed compression and rebound adjustments, each done separately and located on the shock's bridge. John Colthorpe photo
This new model of the RAD shock features a much more refined body compared to the earlier version (
pictured below), with rounder edges and unnecessary aluminum removed from the upper shock end, bridge assembly, and the piggyback. The radically different size of that last component is most obvious, though, as it's quite a bit shorter than what we saw last year. The job of a shock's piggyback, and the internal floating piston (
IFP) that is usually inside of it, is to compensate for oil displacement caused by the shaft entering the shock under compression, while also allowing for more damping oil to be used compared to an inline shock in order to fight heat build-up. The position of the IFP within the piggyback and the pressure behind it can also be used to tune the amount of ramp-up in the shock's stroke, although this needs to be balanced properly with the amount of oil volume displaced by the damper shaft when it's compressed into the body. With that in mind, FOX may have learned through testing the RAD shock on different downhill bikes that the longer piggyback simply wasn't needed, and that adjusting the height of the IFP ever so slightly within a shortened version of it was enough to compensate for different stroke lengths that they might produce. After all, they're not going to manufacture different piggybacks for different length shocks.
The early version of the RAD shock that Greg Minnaar rode to a 2013 World Championship victory in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa. Matt DeLorme photo
The other obvious difference between the earlier prototype and the version on Brook's bike is the shape of the adjustment dials. Just as we speculated last year, it does offer both low-speed and high-speed compression and rebound adjustments, each done separately, but it takes a second look at this latest version to see exactly how that is accomplished. It appears as though the blue (
compression) and red (
rebound) anodized components are actually caps that are threaded into place at the factory, while damper adjustments are made with hex wrenches at its center: high-speed damper adjustments are done with a 6mm hex key, and low-speed with a 3mm hex key concentrically and deeper inside. The pin spanner holes on both of the blue and red caps might actually allow easy access to the compression and rebound circuits, and unthreading them from the bridge could give mechanics or racers the ability to make quick changes to the damper circuits that go beyond what would be possible by turning the adjusters. This is, of course, all speculation at this point, and the pin spanner holes could only be there for testing purposes and might not be present on the production version. The stacked arrangement of the dials also makes the most of the limited real estate available on the piggyback bridge, and means that the shock should be compatible with pretty much every downhill bike on the market.
Brook Macdonald's prototype Trek Session with 650B wheels and FOX's prototype RAD DH shock. John Colthorpe photo
Well. Look what everyone thinks of CTD now.
This article is just another PB hypefest for a product we'll never get to ride in the iteration it's being presented. It's not relevant to the consumer at all. I also find it markedly weird that RS, Manitou, and Marzo never seem to get this sort of hype writeup before making a product. Why is this site riding Fox so hard? I just do not get it.
keep it up fox
piggyback with IFP, whoa hold on with the innovation...
black damper rod, that sounds like a quantum leap,
RAD? well that has got to be the worst acronym yet, must have take a team of experts ages to dream up that one!
but at least its original
This content has nothing to do with it being from FOX, and everything to do with it being something that the very large majority of people haven't seen. We've done similar pieces with new products from other companies, including suspension, drivetrain, and other things. There isn't much in the way of concrete facts in the piece above simply because FOX isn't ready to share any, leaving us to speculate a bit as to what is going on. There are other websites that routinely throw up a photo of a brand new bike or component with absolutely zero information or speculation, just some less than witty comment, which is 100 times worse in my mind.
"im diggin the black shaft..."
heh
I said " 1st thing I thought " meaning that is not my true opinion just some thing that popped into my head when I 1st seen it , and if you think you are " educated " because you spotted the ( obvious ) twin tube design , then here is a virtual pat on the head *pat*
I fixed it for you...
'FOX will be like... Oh, look, look, how awesome is our version of TTX!!! Well, obviously Ohlins know how to make shocks and forks, which is great... Don't get me wrong, I like FOX and I had been riding a lot of times with their products, but...'
You can get the compression unit out of the Jade for shim-tuning without losing oil, if i have understood correctly.
Kinda wonder what they could do about an air shock!
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As for that shock, with the adjusters being where they are (and that skinny steel shaft) could Fox be heading for a poppet valve system like Cane Creek? That would be hilarious, what Fox suspension really need right now is more moving parts even more dependant on high tolerance manufacturing.
IFPs and bladders both do the same job; they separate air and oil, they allow displaced fluid to be "stored" and also pressurize the oil to avoid cavitation.
And no mention about the DLC coated shaft?
The Evolver air shocks and more recently its next version, the Swinger Pro air, are also pretty well accepted by the bike crowd, only the advertisement division is sleeping. My opinion is that they really need to up their game in the ads of their products.
My Dorado and Evolver are pretty much perfect on the trails! Got a Minute Pro 2012 on my trail-bike and it's flawless as well!
I'm looking at upgrading my fork soon , I'm looking at dorados or 888's atm.
How long have you guys owned your dorados for ?
And how have they been for you reliability wise and such ?
Had a nixon for a couple of months, but never really had the opportunity to test ride it properly. replaced it with a Minute Pro 2012 which is superb. It's an excellent trail fork!
But since there is nothing new from Manitou at the moment (no new shiny models, no new secret prototypes), my attention is on the Jade!
And these negative comments probably stem from annoyance with Fox's way of doing things, i.e. hyping new products to the max, while in reality they can't live up to it. Or stating every year the newest shocks are SO much better than last year - which, if true at all, makes you wonder whether they weren't able to reach this level in previous model years. Compare this to BOS and CC - both have only made subtle refinements over the course of years, whereas Fox stuff is obsolete after a year.
Basically Fox appears to be full of shit and they don't get away with it anymore, with companies like DVO and Manitou that treat their customers like grown ups able to adjust and tune their suspension showing how you should treat your market..
I really can't figure the shaft's color on this photo - looks darker, but it might just be the light playing tricks...