SDG, Funn, SpeedRelease - Taipei Show 2015

Mar 19, 2015 at 4:41
by Mike Levy  
Taipei


Dazzle Print and New Grips From SDG

SDG is one of the few brands out there who's range consists of strictly seats and grips, and their relatively small size lets them do some pretty interesting stuff compared to the bigger players. I'm talking about things like their limited 'Shibuya' range from a few years back, or the Storm seat that came about as a development with Sam Hill. That creativity continues in 2016, with a new graphics, grips, and a fresh I-Beam prototype.

SDG
Are you confused? That was the ideal behind Dazzle Print, but it also looks badass on a seat.
SDG
The Gripper Storm series is designed to keep you from sliding around on muddy days.


You know how car companies will often road and track test new vehicles with them painted a confusing looking black and white that appears to be one part camouflage and one part acid trip gone wrong? They do that because it supposedly confuses the focusing abilities of a camera, making them hard to shoot for media who are trying to get the scoop over their peers. That black and white combo has a darker past, though, with the colour scheme originating in World War 1 on battle ships in an effort to confuse the enemy. Its official name is 'Dazzle Print' and SDG is now using it for less nefarious reasons: it simply looks rad. They'll be offering their Ti Fly, I-Fly, Duster, Bel Air 2.0, and Circuit MTN models with the Dazzle Print top.

SDG is also moving ahead with their new Gripper Storm series that uses the same Dazzle Print pattern but sees it embossed onto a waterproof cover to provide traction in slippery conditions. There's no stitching that could fail or let water seep in over time, and the cover itself is slightly rough to the touch to provide traction. Word is that they've had a number of cyclocross teams using early versions in very muddy conditions and that the feedback has been good: more traction but not damaging to fabrics that will be sitting on it for hours on end. Just like with the black and white versions, you can expect it to be available on their Ti Fly, I-Fly, Duster, Bel Air 2.0, and Circuit MTN models.

SDG
  The current I-Beam is on the left, the lower profile prototype is pictured to the right.


A new I-Fly 2.0 is in the works, with SDG pulling out a rapid prototype from deep in a box to give us a look. The white one pictured here isn't rideable, but SDG have also taken the time and money to have versions CNC'd out of Nylon to give them rideable prototypes. The most noticeable difference is a much lower I-Beam profile that not only gives the seat and post setup a much nicer appearance, but is also said to lower weight and up the strength. The shell is also shaped differently, and there's a cutaway at the rear to keep long-travel bikes or 29ers in small frame sizes from tire buzzing at bottom out.

SDG
SDG's prototypes are hand-shaped by the owner of the company before being put to use on the trail.
SDG
Although difficult to see in this photo, the new moulded silicone grip is slightly thicker on one side so you can choose if you want to run it softer or firmer.


SDG already offers a lineup of lock-on grips that match a lot of the colours used on their seats, but they're now branching out into something completely different: silicone grips. These are different from the silicone options already out there in that they're actually moulded instead of extruded from a machine like Play-Doh spaghetti, and because their external shape is not round. There's a thick and a thin side to each grip, and you can orientate them how you'd like depending on the feel you're looking for. As with all of their grips, they will feature the SDG logo along their length for traction.





Funn's New Components


Funn
  Funn's new carbon crank looks pretty nice and is available in single or double chain ring setups.


Funn's new Carbonation cranks are manufactured with unidirectional carbon that's laid over an aluminum spine, with the final product weighing in at 750 grams when you include the bottom bracket and a single narrow/wide chain ring. Funn is offering the same arms with spindles to fit 68/73mm and 83mm bottom bracket shell widths, so you could run them on your downhill rig if you were so inclined. There will be two spider options as well: a single 'ring setup with a 104 BCD, and a dual 'ring layout with a 64/104 BCD. The $599 USD crank is available in 170 and 175mm lengths, and with blue, orange or red colour accents.


Funn
Aluminum pins with countersunk heads are used on the Python pedal.
Funn
Slim enough for you?


The Python is a brand new pedal for 2016 that's much slimmer than Funn's long standing Bigfoot model, as well as weighing a pretty competitive 350 grams for a pair. That weight is with a steel spindle and two cartridge bearings, although Funn does use anodized aluminum traction pins to save a few grams. The pins themselves are actually pretty neat, with a concave head that provides some added biting edges. Colour options include red, orange, blue, black and grey.


Funn
  The Fatboy Supreme is available in 31.8 or 35mm clamp diameters, as well as a man-sized 810mm width.


With a retail price of $100 USD, the aluminum Fatboy Supreme handlebar is another new edition to Funn's lineup for 2016. The 285 gram 'bar goes through a five-step butting process that helps keep the weight impressive for its 810mm width, and riders can choose from 750 and 780mm widths and either 15mm or 30mm of rise, or the 810mm option with either 7mm or 15mm of rise. It sports an eight degree backsweep and five degree upsweep, so there's a good chance that most riders will find it comfortable. Funn is also offering a single 35mm clamp model at 785mm wide and with 18mm of rise. As you might have come to expect from the company, there's a handful of bright colour choices to pick from, including 'Special Edition' models that are either Acid Green, Pink Champagne, Maui Blue, or Cappuccino.




SpeedRelease's Clever Thru-Axle

SpeedRelease is not trying to push a new so-called standard, and their axle design works with existing 12 x 142mm spacing, but the company does want to make removing your mountain bike's rear wheel quicker and easier. They're proposing a new dropout and axle design - using 12 x 142mm spacing - to make this a reality.

SpeedRelease
Is there a better option to current thru-axles? SpeedRelease thinks so.
SpeedRelease
The inner workings on the SpeedRelease 12 x 142mm hub.


The system uses a proprietary hub and thru-axle, with the latter captured in the hub so that it can't fall onto the ground and doesn't require a third hand when you're rushing to get the wheel in or out. That means that the non-drive side dropout has to be open in order for the wheel to be removed. It works like this: unscrew the axle from the non-drive side until it disengages from the threads on the opposite side, then simply give the end a tug in order to release the shouldered section from the dropout to allow the wheel to come out. There's no pulling the axle all the way out, and the entire process is both quick and simple while combining the best of both a quick release and a thru-axle.

The design is only being applied to the rear of mountain bikes due to how a lot of a suspension fork's rigidity comes from its thru-axle and closed clamps, but the road marketing is an area where it could make a lot of sense on both ends of a disc-equipped bike. SpeedRelease is aiming to partner with brands at the OEM level, so we may see the system on the back of bikes in the near future, but they'll likely also offer aftermarket kits (hubs, axles ect.) at some point later in the year.

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145 Comments
  • 72 6
 I had no idea that Renthal produces Funn handlebars... oh wait...
  • 26 4
 Hum, wonder what Renthal will make of the name and that colour???
  • 14 6
 Yep, bit of copying going on there...
  • 69 5
 Pretty sure funn have been making fatboy bars longer than renthal have been making fatbarsSmile
  • 8 3
 Ye, your right, but with that colour it all looks a bit too close to me!!
  • 18 15
 They have, but the sudden change of branding to something almost identical to Renthal's Fatbar - not just in the colour but the logo as well, looks more than a little iffy to me. Potentially damaging to Renthal's brand, as Funn Fatbars are crap.
  • 42 3
 so anybody can make black bars but only renthal are allowed to use gold? Its just a colour!
  • 9 2
 @sam264 why do you think Fatbars are crap?
  • 67 1
 I am from FUNN product development team. I am sorry to hear some comments that we copy competitive brands. We deliberately to use a big logo to show the difference. We really hope people do not buy our bars just because it looks like some other brands. Actually, we have no choice to use such color. We want this bar to be the best alloy bar that you can have. The finish is hard anodized like your front fork, but semi-gold and black are what you can get with hard anodizing. We would like to use different colors in hard anodizing, but this process is still in experiment. I am sorry that this color make some people confuse. BTW, one thing I want to correct is about the weight. Above mentioned 340g is for our original Fatboy. For Fatboy Supreme, the weight is 290g for 31.8mm clamp and 810mm width bar.
  • 8 0
 Yeah why are Fatbars crap? I have two renthals and two funn bars and they're all nice
  • 18 3
 renthal's gonna go spesh on you, funn
  • 6 0
 i see, so thats the reason why all hard anodized forks are either gold or black
  • 19 1
 Well, Funn has been using Fatboy as handlebars' name for many years that I cannnot recall. We don't worry until we later found out Spesh launched a Fattire bike called Fatboy....
  • 2 0
 Fatboy bars only look bad if the riders are literally fat.
  • 2 4
 renthal... since 1969
  • 20 0
 fair play on someone from the company coming on here to reply and add info, big props for that ,
  • 6 6
 I am Neil Armstrong and I have been to the moon , claiming to be some one/from some where on the internet carries so much weight..
  • 6 1
 hey have some faith sometimes people are honest ,, lol
  • 4 4
 haha sorry about that , just got back froma crap drive and two near road rage killings , need to unwind
  • 2 0
 290 gram for an aluminium bar @810mm..... Isn't that crazy or something??
  • 2 2
 I can understand ripping of someones else's product... I draw the line at applying for a patent. WTF
worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20140701&CC=TW&NR=M481193U&KC=U
  • 3 0
 until Renthal decides to patent their color, its no issue for anyone else use the exact same color.
  • 3 0
 The Fatboy is a awesome bar!
I've been running it on my DH and Trailbike and love the feel.
I've replaced the one on my Trailbike with a Renthal Fatbar lite (which feels great, too), because it had more rise and I got it for free, but I would go back to the Fatboy anytime if the Renthal was damaged or whatever.
  • 3 0
 I ran fatboys for years on my bike. Worked great, no complaints. Not sure why you would say they suck, may want to back that up with something.
  • 2 0
 yeah, fatboys are sick. good width, cheap as, stiff.
  • 1 0
 "the new moulded silicone grip is slightly thicker on one side so you can choose if you want to run it softer or firmer."
What a great idea!
  • 5 0
 To the people that are bagging Funn out you are all a pack of nobs Funn have been around for years & i don't recall any of my friends breaking anything with Funn written on it, so many experts on here you all suck & need to get off your computer you *ag forum wariors & ride your bikes instead of posting on every article on Pinkbike I hate you all no more of this crap site for me or any other crap forum i'm done cya
  • 8 0
 pretty sure Sam Hill won several world cups on Funn bars. Just saying.....
  • 1 5
flag notthatfast (Mar 20, 2015 at 3:09) (Below Threshold)
 Sorry guys typo, i meant fatboys aren't very good! They bend pretty easily in my experience. Not so the fatbars, mine have been great Smile
  • 3 2
 @eastpeak thank you for the response. Unfortunately, many people don't understand the anodizing process except for it gives pretty colors to match whatever flavor they want their bike to be. There is no realization that there are three types of ano which are divided into two classes. And controlling the colors is not only hard, but it depends on temperature, material composition, time, etc. You can do the exact same thing to two different lots of aluminum and they will come out different shades.
I'm actually stoked to hear that the bars are being hard anodized. It in fact does only produce really different shades of 2 colors. It's the oxidation process of the aluminum, and how much the surface penetrates into the material. You can add color to hard ano, but this in turn softens the oxidation layer, therefore currently, there is no point in the hard ano process if you want another color then what is naturally produced. I don't think if Renthal patents the "color" of their bars, it will cover a process, because every anodizing shop in the world that does hard ano uses different recipes.

That being said, I want to see more hard anodizing in more components. Once recent thought I had was to do freehub bodies. I know a few companies do it, but I spen $100 every time I need a freehub body because with the manufacturing tolerances of the casette and the body, and with the force of the drivetrain, eventually the cassette bites into the grooves of the aluminum freehub body. After more abuse, then play is introduced. I would think a hard anodizing process could eliminate this and be more cost efficient.
  • 2 0
 'if Renthal patents the "color"

Can you even patent a colour?
  • 2 1
 It's not just the colour though is it? You can't deny that while the text/font isn't the same, they do look remarkably similar now in terms of design. Looks pretty deliberate to me.
  • 1 0
 @tobiusmaximum yes you can, here is an article for the layman, meaning someone who does not practice law. Same concept, and considering that Renthals color is used very frequently in their products, I would bet they have a decent chance of being able to patent their gold/bronze, or whatever signature color it is they use.

www.legalzoom.com/articles/trademark-protection-of-color-louboutins-red-soled-shoe-is-a-clever-logo
  • 22 0
 The current standard in high end cranks is the Race Face Next SL which sells for around $450. If you're going to pitch your new, unproven, first-attempt crank at $599 it better compare incredibly favourably against the Nexts. Oh wait, no option for direct mount rings.
  • 9 0
 Not to mention it weighs more than the Turbines, and 200g more than the Next Sl's
  • 16 3
 No on that axle, just no.
  • 13 0
 Agreed. Apparently its not a new standard, it just won't work with your current frame. Or forks. Or hubs. And its not as good as the old sytem in terms of stiffness. Great!
  • 9 1
 Is Trek in on this new "standard"?
  • 11 0
 I hear a 149mm wide is in the works...
  • 6 0
 SRAM will be putting a patent in next week I bet
  • 4 0
 my shimano 142 x 12mm axle comes out in about 4 seconds without any tools...realistically, how can you improve on that? i dont really understand what they're trying to do there, but it seems more complicated than it has to be
  • 6 0
 I bet you would wear a second hole in the ass with that gripper storm seat!!
  • 7 0
 That prototype saddle looks about as comfortable as a dull axe.
  • 1 0
 ........so its a little comfortable?
  • 7 1
 The cranks and petals. I'll take one of each
  • 52 0
 Only 1 leg?
  • 31 1
 well played sir.
  • 4 0
 This interchange wins the interweb today!
  • 2 0
 Why cant SDG come up with an I-Fly saddle that has more padding than the current offerings? These current offerings have a great shape but are as hard as a board and give you soar arse! They used to repair old saddles and now they do not offer this service anymore. I am very disappointed in the direction of SDG.
  • 1 0
 The answer's the in the question really. The I-Fly is designed to be as lightweight and stiff as possible- it is a DH saddle, designed to give control over the bike, and to stop you impaling yourself or getting your ass buzzed by a tyre. That's it.
It is not designed for comfort, or to be used on am/xc bikes. A lot of top xc racers use it because of it's low weight, but those guys are hard as nails. I'm not, and I'm guessing you aren't either.

So, you have 2 options: get a saddle that suits you (if you like the I-fly, but want a bit more comfort, check out the circuit mtn); or observe Rule 5 of "the rules" Wink
  • 1 0
 The Circuit mountain looks good if they only had an I-Beam version? The seat width on the circuit mountain is also 135 mm vs. 127 mm for the I-fly and I prefer the narrow width. They used to make an I-fly with slightly more padding for riders looking for just a bit more comfort, I believe it was called the I fly-C, they have discontinued that seat unfortunately. As a bigger guy, a bit more padding in an I-fly would go a long way.
  • 1 0
 what a funny joke from funn product development team that hard anodized color "have to" be semi-gold or black and excuse their copy for renthal color.
google it and you know that's not true.
for sure, renthal has no patent for color, and funn takes the advantage for this to confuse the market.
pity that funn used to be his own way, big mistake about this new strategy but keep proud of it !!
  • 6 3
 How are SDG selling any I beam saddles when everyone is buying dropper posts, which as far as I'm aware (other than maybe Gravity Dropper?) no one makes compatible posts.
  • 7 2
 To be honest, I dont have and dont think I will use a dropper post as due to my cycling style and size, I dont see the need! Plus, its all extra weight to me, so if I was to buy a SDG saddle, the I beam is an option for me. Plus I think SDG aims the I beam at the XC racer??!! I do like SDG saddles, not to shore about the Dazzle Print myself, but the Gripper Storm looks good!!
  • 6 0
 Xc, dj, dh, hybrids....
  • 14 1
 I'd put a dropper on my road bike for the down hills!
  • 2 0
 There's a KS too, IIRC. Also, DH bikes.
  • 4 42
flag bikebike69 (Mar 19, 2015 at 8:08) (Below Threshold)
 "Everyone" is NOT buying droppers!
Some of us can actually properly set up a bike!
  • 15 1
 Bikebike69 Just wanna wish you luck bud. Because you just told all dropper owners that they can't set a bike up. I suspect you may need to either backpedal or have a very impressive explanation for such madness.
  • 2 0
 Bikebike69 Just wanna wish you luck bud. Because you just told all dropper owners that they can't set a bike up. I suspect you may need to either backpedal or have a very impressive explanation for such madness.
  • 6 44
flag bikebike69 (Mar 19, 2015 at 8:46) (Below Threshold)
 Nope, I don't need to backpedal a single bit!
I'm 45 and been riding,racing since childhood.
BMX,DH,DJ,XC,Road and commute by track/fixed. Oddly enough fast as f*ck at all disciplines without the aid of a dropper.
Whether you want to admit it or not the dropper customer is "useally" the fad type of rider who jumps on whatever the new thing is and supports
It wholeheartedly despite its true usefulness.
So by all means go buy a dropper,27.5,29,e-Shift or whatever other crap "innovation" you think you need to ride better/more comfortably. I'll just keep
going faster than you and laughing out loud about.
Neg prop away.......I'm still a better rider!
  • 38 0
 When they feel the need to point out theyre a better rider.... Especially at 45, you already know what kind of person you're dealing with.
  • 12 0
 I hope I'm not that closed minded to innovation when I'm 45, wow. Turns out things like disc brakes, front/rear suspension, etc. are pretty cool and make my bike experience that much more fun. Dropper posts are just another piece of the puzzle. Strava times or nobody believes you LOL
  • 13 1
 @bikebike69 Don't ever change, my life doesn't have enough comedy in it
  • 4 31
flag bikebike69 (Mar 19, 2015 at 8:56) (Below Threshold)
 @ rewob, exactly my point!
You're dealing with someone with twice the amount of experience as you.....maybe you should listen.
  • 8 0
 They are actually essential to do well at an enduro,. DH/XC/DJ/BMX fine, you dont need one, but enduro racing, different story.

Find me one rider at any national/world level enduro that doesnt have one. I'll buy you a pasty
  • 25 0
 'Neg prop away.......I'm still a better rider!' No.. you're just a twat.
  • 1 24
flag bikebike69 (Mar 19, 2015 at 9:06) (Below Threshold)
 Haha,damn you little girls get offended easily......its biking!
  • 20 0
 We're not offended, we're laughing at how offensive you find droppers.
  • 20 0
 Yeah I don't think anyone is offended... I personally am amused by your arrogance
  • 12 0
 @bikebike69
Since when is riding about being faster or better than everyone else? I thought it was about fun, friends, and the amazing places we go to and the adventures getting there. I'm sure most will agree that adding a dropper post is one of the best upgrades. It makes the riding "experience" so much better. So quit being a arrogant douche!
  • 7 1
 @aoneal When you're making up for your insecurities. Which is where the bragging about it comes in. Funny thing though, the bragging comes about if the person isn't actually fast, in fact often moreso...
  • 7 0
 "But i said you were offended so you must be. Because it's all about me. oh and fcuk droppers." - the 45 y/o troll.
  • 9 0
 @groghunter
Exactly. One of the fastest guys in my area... guess what.. never says a word about how quick he is. Lets his riding do the talking. Although bikebike69 probably won't have anyone around to allow his riding to do the talking.. nobody can keep up! He's too 'fast as f*ck'! Yeah.. maybe that's the reason. Definitely not the other reason. No.
  • 10 0
 See.. thing is... Imagine it.. if one actually is fast.. AND brags about it, one is a cock. And if one is not fast, but brags that they are, one is an even bigger cock. There's no way out... Bragging about how good you are, makes you a cock. The end.
  • 6 0
 odds are he's not fast and brags about it. besides, there's ALWAYS someone out there faster than you. other than jared graves of course. he's the fastest.
  • 6 0
 m.pinkbike.com/photo/10094725 Idk guys. He looks pretty f*ckin quick for a storm trooper
  • 6 0
 @bikebike69 ... seeing as you're so experienced you can tell us 'girls' wtf a dropper post has got to do with bike set-up ??
  • 3 0
 Oh snap @treymotleyDH ! I didnt bother clicking his profile before. I see he is a socal resident. Maybe we can experience the speed, raw power & expert bike setup skills in person someday.
  • 3 0
 Looks like he shreds summit a lot. I think he could show us a thing or two
  • 2 10
flag bikebike69 (Mar 19, 2015 at 12:10) (Below Threshold)
 @fedz Lol,thank you for actually asking.
90%of the time I see riders that proclaim they need a dropper. they are already riding an ill fitting frame and or style of frame for their riding. trying desperately to find a "best middle ground" of fit verses performance. Given that, they "almost always" have other fit issues that are painfully visible,ie; wack bar/stem length/hight ,crank lengths etc. but thinking that the ability to change seat hight for grade changes will help performance!
(Trendy guys that don't learn to be a better rider before buying into every riding aid)
My original statement meaning: the type of guys that say they "need" a dropper to perform better. Are useally the same ones trying to save any grames they can by going tubless but then go and cram in a heavy dropper,all the while the rest of their rig is requiring real attention that could actually make them better/faster. Merely example.
Point being: if one has the proper size,fit,set up.......one should never need a dropper.
  • 2 8
flag bikebike69 (Mar 19, 2015 at 12:14) (Below Threshold)
 @rewob,treymotley
Yup at S.S. Two three time a week during season. Would love to hook up do some runs Smile
You guys can "hate" all you want......but I still luv you guys. Bikers are still bikers.
See you at Summit for some "training" lol
  • 12 0
 "Point being: if one has the proper size,fit,set up.......one should never need a dropper."

This is patently untrue and by this logic nobody 'needs' anything except the most basic set-up there is. Aaron Gwin and many others proved you don't 'need' 8" rear travel to win DH races. Martyn Ashton proves you don't 'need' a trails bike to do trials. CX proved you don't need a xc bike to ride off road. The list goes on.

Is it easier to ride DH without a seat up your arse? Yes. Is it easier to climb with a seat up your arse? Yes. Will it be easier therefore to climb and descend in one ride with a dropper? Yes. These rules generally apply even if the rig requires a bit of better sizing/set up.

PS - Master Chief wants his PPE back.
  • 3 0
 typical socal d-bag. these are the joeys who dont talk to people on trails. total blowhard. probably a lance armstrong apologist. lol
  • 9 0
 Dropper post did more to change the way I ride than any other single innovation in mountainbiking.
  • 2 0
 @bentown He also supposes that everyone who goes tubeless is trying to shave weight. So a typical case of someone projecting their own motivations on others, then saying the other person is doing it wrong, when the other person wasn't trying to do the same thing at all.
  • 12 0
 @treymotleyDH I win....

www.pinkbike.com/photo/10102816


@bikebike69 You are my f*cking favorite PB member of all time.
  • 4 0
 Funniest feed ever. Some people are soooo closed minded. Bikebike69 is probably voicing an ill-informed opinion and has never spent a day on a bike with a dropper. Silly silly boy.
  • 1 8
flag EastCoastDHer (Mar 19, 2015 at 15:31) (Below Threshold)
 @bikebike69 , these kids want technology to do all the work for them. Heaven forbid anyone get on a bike these days and actually break a sweat.

Good to know someone else realizes you have to actually ride to get better at it.

Did half my XC rides on a 7 speed downhill bike. Did all the climbs minus one (the only one most XC riders also walked).
  • 14 1
 wait there are more of you!^^^
  • 8 0
 We are on about dropper posts by the way. What's that got to do with breaking a sweat? I suspect a dropper induces more sweat if anything but what we are on about is there is no optimum seat height for mtb unless you treat mtb like road riding on dirt. So the dropper post is the result of all time basically. Touch of a button seat height? What's not to like? Either you run a normal set up low and lose out on speed or you run it high for speed an the bloody thing is in your way. Not even superman can avoid those basics of cycling. So unless you admit mtb is very 'static' in the seat to you, or one is just a stubborn muppet going 'I'm fine, no really I'm fine', then what's not to like about droppers? Some weight?! Break a sweat eastcoastDHer!! Andbikebike69.. you're so fast a few extra grams won't stop you.
  • 2 8
flag EastCoastDHer (Mar 19, 2015 at 15:52) (Below Threshold)
 Never used a dropper. Never needed one. Never wanted one. Stand when needed and stop to drop it manually if needed. Not a nuisance as I enjoy taking in the scenery for that short moment.
  • 11 0
 Which is fine. Who cares. Don't use a dropper. But to say (as we were originally pointing out) that the use of a dropper points to an improperly set up bike is silly.
  • 11 0
 Eastcoast... You deride the younger generation for wanting a device which keeps you moving (read: breaking sweat) yet you admit to taking a break to take in the scenery. In a word.... Eh?
  • 6 0
 I love when people who have never even tried a dropper try and bash them/infer that they're not INCREDIBLY useful. In certain terrain the difference a dropper can make is insane... There is this place called Vietnam in MA that is a perfect example. Lots of pedally sections and lots of big drops and gaps. Ive ridden there extensively without a dropper and with a dropper and it's literally night and day.. Instead of raising seat for super steep climb then hopping off bike and dropping it for 15ft drop you can just stay on bike and shred the piss out of everything and not have to worry about getting analed by your seat
  • 3 0
 I've got a dirt roadie at work that has the same attitude... he also loves ergon paddle grips though, so actually riding a bike rather than pedaling one & claiming to be a mountain biker is more his speed.
  • 8 0
 I drive a model T to work. You kids want power steering and anti lock brakes to drive your car for you. Seatbelts and air bags you say? I say get a tougher face.
  • 3 0
 I'm beginning to think that these 2 idiots are DH riders only. They have never had to climb for 7 miles straight. Id like to see either of these fools "just stand up" to pedal for 7 miles straight. DUMB DUMB DUMB
  • 5 0
 This is a really funny thread...quotes, vids, pics. Its got it all!
  • 4 0
 You can climb any distance standing up when you're swoll!!! (and on human growth hormone)
  • 3 0
 Just like bikebike69!! @cuban-b
  • 1 0
 Out of interest @bikebike69.... have you ever actually tried riding with a dropper post?!
  • 1 0
 In a fetish club..
  • 2 5
 At some point you gotta stop to pee so why not take in the view and adjust your seat?
  • 4 0
 My god. You are insufferable. I would forgo the trail piss and take a dump that you would have to ride through instead.
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flag EastCoastDHer (Mar 20, 2015 at 13:34) (Below Threshold)
 My riding buddy when I started riding was a well accomplished BMX racer. I started standing climbs for the workout but also to race him up hills. (He put up a good fight on his old super 8 & monster T).

This was after I earned my blackbelt. That test was 8 hours non stop. Oh, and I had the flu. Obviously some of us have different mental and physical abilities. Either you want to maintain and improve your fitness and riding or you don't. Plain and simple.
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flag EastCoastDHer (Mar 20, 2015 at 13:36) (Below Threshold)
 Sorry, Dick, but 75% of my riding was XC. Try knowing someone before you try to misjudge them next time.
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flag EastCoastDHer (Mar 20, 2015 at 13:39) (Below Threshold)
 Oh dear, that would be crappy. Thankfully we rely on crap for important things like healthy foods and soils.
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 That would be ironic if his name were Richard. I would have went with fuckface - there's no mistaking that term for a real persons name.
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 I rode a unicycle up Everest. Didn't even stop for breaks. The sherpas tried to keep up, but their little legs were no match for my physical and psychological superiority. That was after I graduated astronaut school, while drunk. I'm a drunk astronaut. Plain and simple.
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 @cuban-b I'll have you know the f*ckfaces are a proud & noble family, with lineage back Charlemagne. *harumphf*
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 It's pronounced fuck-foss-ay
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 what does the f*ck-foss-ay?
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 (slaps forehead) of course, the answer is: ""Everyone" is NOT buying droppers! Some of us can actually properly set up a bike!" or maybe "these kids want technology to do all the work for them. Heaven forbid anyone get on a bike these days and actually break a sweat. "

How silly of me to forget.
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 @Session603 that made me laugh out Loud in class
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 I'm just going to conclude that @eastcoastDHer and @bikebike69 are the best riders to have ever walked the planet!! They are probably winning world cup XC, DH, and freeride events all while riding rigid single speeds with coaster brakes!! Because who needs suspension, gears and disc brakes! All that technology makes us weak and spoiled!! Heck, I think these two guys have won Red Bull Rmpage every year since its conception!!
........
Oh, wait, thats right, these are nobodys who have no common sense whatsoever.
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 'This was after I earned my blackbelt. That test was 8 hours non stop. Oh, and I had the flu.'


You're shitting me. Seriously!? I thought nobody could match bikebike for being a proper balloon head. Word the wise.. or not so wise as it seems... Nobody cares if you rode Madonna to the grammys.. (actually, hold on) it's got f*ck all to do with droppers. And I can't believe you dropped the black belt story on a mtb site. Are you actually 8? Come on.. get off daddy's computer now!

As for taking a piss when you do your seat... You must be taking the piss. You need a piss whenever it's seat time? Or adjust your seat whenever you pee? Either way, I call bullshit.
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 Cant tell if trolling, or just stupid.........@EastCoastDHer @bikebike69
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flag EastCoastDHer (Mar 21, 2015 at 12:45) (Below Threshold)
 Aaaaaaaahahahahahaha!!!

You have 'maximum! in your name!

Anything you say is INVALID!









Have nice day! Smile
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 That doesn't even make sense
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 Those pedals look pretty good. the raised platform for the back pins should add a bit of concave.
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 dazzle and bike shouldn't be in the same sentence ever.
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 Well the Funn pedals look like they'd happily split your shins...
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 Any flat with pins will happily do that, ive the marks to prove it!! Ooch
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 The alloy pins will of worn down before they make it to your shins
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 Color could be just due to similar coloring and finishing processes and/or products. Maybe they use the same company for certain parts of the process. Ever price out a truck load of paint? Companies may realize the cost savings of using the same vendor as their competition to minimize costs while still giving you a high quality product.
...just saying.
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 That Dazzle saddle would look great on Blake Samson's custom Zimbabwe Saracen ALX..
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 Was anyone else not confused at all my the saddle...
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 Funn carbon cranks that look like raceface next sl cranks that weigh more and cost the same
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 At first glance I thought it was a Ratboy Supreme bar.
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 wow 599$... that's not FUNNy
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 They just took all the funn out of their cranks with that price tag.
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 loving the Funn stuff, this is what we need ! Should keep the competition on their toes !
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 All these new axle designs, I still think DT's is the simplest and would love to see it on 15 an 20 forks.
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 Funn stuff looks good. Always liked Funn. I really dig the peds.
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 I love my Kevlar Ti Fly.
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 Would you say *dons sunglasses* that it's bulletproof?
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 +1 just for the " *dons sunglasses* "
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 "YEEEAAAAAHHHH!"
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 Funn have really cranked it up in the drivetrain department.
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 funn...you are getting expensive....2016 trend??
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 Sickest seat decals







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