Bike Check: Palmer Limited Edition Intense M16

 If only the bikes were also free!

 exactly the same thing i was going to say hahahah

 Wouldn't mind seeing a Canadian-themed Aurum ; )

 There is never to much murica

 *too

 Freedom!

 That's cute...

 Agree. Actions speak louder than words. As an American, I feel we should be focusing on putting more Americans on the top podium spots instead of painting the bikes with American flags.

 I spent my life riding Canadian bikes, we know what works down here.

 C'mon guys this isn't just another Murica bike. This is a tribute to the Palmer signature M1, the original Murica bike.

 To be fair this one is probably more American than most - produced and painted in the US... Not sure how many of the other American themed bikes can say that...

 "Intense announced that it intends to a limited number of copies of the Shaun Palmer replica M16 DH bike that it had on display at the Sea Otter Classic last April."

Typo? "Intense announced that it intends to....." what? (sell?)

 set fire to?

 eat?

 @ncipperly you mean like the development team for US racers that Palmer is heading? There need to for sure be more of them but at least he and Intense are working to do it.

 was thinking exactly the same when i open up the PB front page..

 Get a V10cc and paint it yourself. You get lighter better and only one.

 Helps fund the best youth-dh program in the usa.

 I'd be proud to ride that, but at 9K+, if i was buying i think i'd want it painted in the Union Flag

 @chyu - pretty sure a decent graphic wrap artist could do this for a bunch less than $9K ...

 Perfect. This frame needs to self-immolate halfway through a run, then sit on the sidelines spouting about its former greatness for the rest of its hideous life. That would make it the Palmer special edition.

 An Eagle comes with every purchase.

 I'm going to buy one...when they're carbon.

 They are made in the usa. That's the point. I guarenteed the people who buy these are late 30 to 40 year old men with complete plastic armor kits on or 16 year old LA rich kids who don't know squat about biking. Does that take away from the cool factor of the bike....maybe a little. But cmon.....it's made in the USA....and it's hand painted!?¿! It not like every Rocky Mountain bike I've ever wanted didn't have a huge maple leaf on it.

 We don't need to worry about putting Americans on podiums. We have gwin.

 Very soon hopefully!

 It's a made in the US frame though. Not a Chinese made on. Bikes made in Western countries (US, Western Europe, etc.) at a low volume are more expensive. Although, $9k is a bit steep even though it is spec'ed with a nice parts kit.

 Wish I could like more than once

 @Bman33 Taiwan... not China. Completely different places

 @firesoft, very true. but in this case it really does matter. That frame is made in the US.

 m.pinkbike.com/photo/8673846

Kinda what you were asking for?

 that's a 2012 or 2013 bike, just compare them and say something, I tell you something, ridiculous this m16.... yes, it looks really nice, but let by honest, this price with this weight.... the beauty and the rarity are to expensive here

 *too

 An ex Stevie Smith bike in any colour would do me

What's withe the typo / spelling corrections ? Nobody really cares.

 We correct spellings.. or people die, it's that simple.

 I care.

 If Devinci announced a maple leaf theme hand painted bike......their website would crash.

 I care ten fold, spelling mistakes should be punishable by death ,hung drawn and quartered preferably.

 Ok, i stand corrected

 @unleash
"...be punishable by death ,hung drawn and..."
Your comma placement needs work. I'll meet you at the gallows

 ha ha ,no one said anything about punctuation.Here is something to amuse all those who get annoyed by bad English..
www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3y0CD2CoCs

 @unleash do you mean poor English? Nice lack of space before you sentence begining in here. I'm just teasing, cheers!

 I was thinking the same! The 'stars and bars' was the pro-slavery confederate flag, right?

 It's not a "pro slavery" flag, that is liberal propaganda. It's just a battle flag that has gotten a bad rap

 @Ruffletron that's a bit of a misconception. "Stars and Bars" refers to the official flag of the Confederacy, not the typically seen battle flag of the Confederacy that everyone (rightfully) gets upset about.

 it was originally about slavery, but was more recently repurposed by the KKK as a symbol of Southern opposition to desegregation

 No @PacificPointer , you need to learn history. First of all the " Stars & Bars" is neither the US flag, nor the modern "confederate flag:" it's the original flag of the confederacy, which resembles the original US flag: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America

Second, the modern usage of the "Confederate flag" was popularized by the Dixiecrat movement starting in 1948, during their attempts to get a Presidential candidate into the White house: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

I'll let their party platform speak for itself: "We stand for the segregation of the races and the racial integrity of each race; the constitutional right to choose one's associates; to accept private employment without governmental interference, and to earn one's living in any lawful way. We oppose the elimination of segregation, the repeal of miscegenation statutes, the control of private employment by Federal bureaucrats called for by the misnamed civil rights program. We favor home-rule, local self-government and a minimum interference with individual rights."

Third, the modern usage of the flag on governmental buildings was in protest to anti-segregation laws: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_display_of_the_Confederate_flag#Display_at_South_Carolina.27s_state_capitol

It was added to the to Georgia flag in 1956, 2 years after Brown vs The Board of Education. The govenor who passed the resolution to do so all but admitted that it was a protest of anti-segregation. It was raised over the South Carolina capital in 1961, right as the Civil Rights movement was beginning to be taken seriously.

In short, it was never the official flag of the confederacy, & almost all modern usage is tied to anti-civil rights groups. It shouldn't banned, because free speech is enshrined in the constitution, but it shouldn't be flown in any official capacity by the US or a state government, because it's history is modern, and hostile to Black Americans.

 Not one to get into these kind of debates, but have you ever seen an African American in the south repping that flag? or anywhere for that matter? When a large well known group of racists in the south used the flag for their organization it sorta lost it's original meaning.

 Even if you remove the racial component of the Confederate battle flag, it still represents a treasonous and traitorous segment of the population that waged war against other Americans. Why any modern American citizen would want to wave a blatantly treasonous symbol and call it "heritage" is confused about their patriotism and allegiance to the USA.

 Excuse me. That flag is all about racism, slavery, ignorance and brutality. Effing heathens.

 Tell that to the Dukes of hazzard!

 The new MT7 is as good as Saint M820 & Hope V4 (Currently have them all on different bikes)

 yep! the are making some kick ass brakes. brian lopes runs them. good brakes, german engineering!

 Yeah they are... And for some reason I'm still paying to have them bled every month

 Your mechanic sucks. Buy a bleed kit and do it properly yourself. Haven't needed to bleed mine once

 Its like asking if Rock Shox still make suspention forks and shocks...

 @Shiny-side-up, his mechanic is going for job security and monthly income ;-).

 Figure out the bleed man.....that's kinda standard.

 I've bled them myself and my mechanic is great. They are 2014 mt 6's; leak fluid all the time. I guess i cant really complain though because i won them in a raffle at sea otter.

 check the O-rings. one might be done for

 Ayy, dont hate on Magura.. I self-service and pretend to know what I'm doing.. least I'm still stopping on a dime.

 Fake it till you make it Ronworth

 What's up skeen95, how can I help you? Email me at Jude@magurausa.com and we will take care of your issues with your MT6 brakes that you won during Sea Otter. I am certain there is a simple solution and we have a large qualified staff waiting to rectify your frustrations. I only wish you would have reached out sooner!

 Now that's good service! Don't see the big S on here...

 Score one for Magura!

 @rjude Thank you for helping me resolve my problem in a timely manner and with the best outcome I could think of!

 You're so right. Ceramic 521's on Hope Biguns with the Magura rim brakes was a dream set up of mine. When I was 14 and couldn't afford it... good times!

 Sounds about right. Living in England, being able to actually have working brakes in the wet and mud was a revelation. The way they cut through the mess was grin inducing.

 Aye. They were a big hit among the street and trials guys I used to know too.

 They at least should have used the neon yellow brakes

 Is he actually riding much, I wonder?

 He raced the Fontana series.

 Well, to be fair, for it to be a replica of what he's actually riding, they'd have to sprinkle geritol and meth over it.

 Those neon colored brakes were a limited production run and probably already sold out.

 " but I'm only 14 and have two paper rounds and still broke waaah too expensive"

 Eyyy, at least you have internet. My bro in Nigeria can only dream.

 I don't know about the "abuse" part, but there have been a lot of pictures of him recently, some of them featuring mountain bikes, like the one above, unfortunately in none of those pictures he looked like he was actually riding...

Still, I really like what Intense is doing, I think he can still be an inspiration to a lot of people.

 They are playing the Nostalgia card. Not sure if thats going to sell 60 bikes at 9 grand though.

 They did have a few vids of him riding, though, no? (I'm at work, can't go hunting for MTB videos)

 I think if you drink heavily...then you are abusing yourself.

 I'd call that a damn good time, unless you genuinely are an alcoholic mess...

 Well, Shaun's youth development team is kick ass, ask anyone who has seen them in action.

 @gnarbar

I'm talking about alcohol abuse and alcoholism. Problem with casual use is that sometimes it leads to more...sometimes more can lead to more...one day yer having a drink with your mates after a ride on the weekend...then it's three times a week just kicking back...then everyday...then more everyday...before u know it it's 2 bottles of wine. Booze is the gateway drug...

 You must be fun at parties

 well...wasted people aren't fun either. they just think they are ????

 nope it's a 4th of july thing

 capitalism, bro

 Its brazil. It has nothing resembling capitalism. Smarten up

 Hahaha

 If environmental impact is your main concern, aluminium has no advantage over carbon at all.

 Everything I've seen contradicts that statement, since you can recycle aluminum, carbon, not so much.

 ... environmental impact has everything we do of course aluminium is toxic to water and thought of being a cause of alzheimers disease. Furthermore it takes high energies to prepare aluminium (as well as cf.) but in contradiction al can be reused, even though expensive and energy intensive, which is up to now not possible with cf., at least not without delivering weaker structures resulting in loosing the advantages of cf. structures. Up to now most of the cf stuff just gets dumped and right now, not just in the bicycle industry. IMO one should stay with al for the sake of not opening another can for pollution, theres enough already.

but maybe they'll come up with something, research is in progress

 just like I said.....

 Custom paint jobs easily run in the vicinity of $2,000-$3,000 (or more), so it takes a normally priced $6,000 bike up to $9,000. That it's expensive is very true. That it's a rip off is most likely very inaccurate.

 That depends on whether having your bike look like the American flag is worth $2-$3k to you.

 Defintely not! nor anything associated with flash in the pan Shaun Palmer!

 can't

 people already do...

 Marketing is a curios beast that cannot appeal to all. The real question is.. Does shakira make you want to buy toothpaste?

 Throwing in that you have ''4 intense bike" makes you a douche bag, not this company's 20 year relationship with one of the sports most important figures.

 Palmer never asked anyone for their approval or forgiveness for his attitude. I do not look up to him as a respectable individual, but his athletic ability deserves recognition. As well as the influence and impression he left on the sport we all enjoy. Cannot deny either of those things. Love him or hate him, he is and always will be Palmer. Says so right across his gut! Haha

 you are a douche bag so don`t sell your bikes :]

 *That price is intense.

 No, that was me. Excuse me

 @milohead ....lives!!!!

 Isn't that what the v10 ran? New one not included. But I'm pretty sure it became the most winning bike in history, largely in the 10inch setting.

 That's no way to talk about Shaun. Have some respect man..

 Let's be real, the guy is in his 40's and could smoke almost everyone here straight off the couch in about 5 different sports. Also, it is (too) bruh.

 Still faster than you!

 WAY faster!

 santa cruz and intense have developed that system together, that's why the bikes look similar, is not a copy....

 A lot of these kids don't realize that a couple of guys working out of a tiny shop back in the day are responsible for not only there own unique frames, but manufacturing for others so that others could put there brand name on them. Long live Intense!!!

 What came 1st?.... the M3 or V10's similar geometry??? Hmmmmmm...