Semenuk could have stepped it up a bunch. I thought that his run was like a 92, and Rheeders a 90, Logan Peat a 84 and Messere like an 82. Seemed extremely biased today.
Yah, but it would still changes what goes on in the other riders minds when they see a 97 on the board. For example, Reeder got hyped up and overshot on his second run, knowing he might as well have needed a perfect run to beat Semenuk's. If ya'll really think that scoring isn't important, you need to go compete and see what difference it makes you know you have a huge uphill battle to win vs a small improvement.
Other riders did doubles on the jumps that Semenuk did singles. I don't need to show you, and I couldn't anyways. I'm also not denying the fact that his run was the best - it was. All I'm saying is that his run was not 3 points away from 100 when there were so many places improvements could have been made, and that the judges bias towards higher profile riders says a lot about the sport. You could see it on the faces of the riders when their scores came out. Messere knew his first run didn't really deserve the score it got. It goes to show that slopestyle is still at a point where it is so dependent on the fanbase that it is necessary to cater to entertainment rather than competition. Admittedly, it is hard to remove the bias - look at Lebron James getting calls in the NBA, or look at top players in FIFA. At least in those sports, the fans are willing to admit its there, but I guess I should be grateful that you can't dive in slopestyle, and that the athletes aren't so headstrong that they will publicly admit to blown calls.
@VTwintips don't be a hater... his run did have a double whip flip, so with your suggestion that he did not do combo tricks is being backfired. flip barspin isn't a combination of two tricks? cork 7 isn't actually two 360s corked in one rotation?
go watch NBA or fooseball braah and leave mountain biking to mountain bikers please. I think their scoring system worked quite right during this contest and obviously the runs that Rheeder and Semenuk threw down, though both insanely gnarly, Semenuk's run had that edge. Rheeder fell down not because of the scoring board result... this is a joke of an argument, for real... would argue that you've hit a car just because the other driver drove past you and advanced? this is quite a childish argument sorry to say, but it truly is.
when riders come up to the event they take in that there is pressure surely for those who want to win badly. so you would say then in Olympic Snowboarding, just because Shaun White has a bigger fan base, he should have won it anyways? hell no... the rider who gets the win, is the one who pushes the envelope of his/her one single run and in both cases, snowboard and mountain biking, there are two runs, therefore one best run counts. Shaun and Brett know exactly the pressure of such big events and many others do as well. this is why they compete, to push that adrenaline buzz and to progress, like Harry Main said in his interview, onto level number 2.
and another thing about scoring... really why shouldn't he have gotten the score he has got? Shaun has gotten 100 points at xgames because he did in fact those tricks which nobody else did and so did Semenuk as well -> flat flip cancan drop and corked 720 off the step down. the magnitude and how clean everything was done shows that he has them dialed and it also shows to the judges that he is capable of throwing down even in the first run.
your theory just breaks down like that sir, with a flicker of two fingers
I'm talking about 4 main places - although I haven't rewatched so I'm sure there are others. The Boner log, the hip, into the toilet bowl and out of the wallride, where Semenuk allotted a total of two tailwhips and two straight airs, whereas other riders were actually doing combos - although I never actually suggested his run didn't have combos. Again, all I'm saying is that he left room for improvement there - it was a safety run, and if he put down his best run it would have been a 103 with that scoring.
You need to reread my comment because I didn't say a lot of the things you said I said. (In particular that I think Semenuk's run was the best, because it so clearly was). My point about the pressure is based off of D1 college experience, and it is surely applicable to here. I do a sport where you have 3 attempts to throw something as far as you can, yet the sport is about finesse, just as much as power. A big thing in the sport is to hit a good throw early. It puts the pressure on the other guy, and the other guy is likely to try to muscle the javelin, and it can end up not going as far.
I'm not sure how that argument is childish. Reeder knew he couldn't out-trick Semenuk's 96.8, so he had to out amplitude him, which failed because he ended up overshooting. What experience competing do you have?
That was hands down the best crankworx to date! Both course and skill level was off the charts!!. Lets give a shout out to pinkbike/redbull for the amazing webcast, great panel, interviews, camera angles/ replays. Mountain Biking is going mainstream!!
The event, riders, commentators where Great. Coverage of the upper half of the course was an epic fail. Hard to see the action from a single long shot, Sad.
that was awesome for sure, but i would've loved to see some riders like yannick, nicholi, brett, cam, etc. finish their second runs. sounds like there was some CRAZY stuff planned
TBH, I didn't really,like the course. Its just a glorified dirt line, there was just one place where riders could choose between two jumps. Plus it was almost exactly the same course as last year, only real difference I found was the fish bowl...
Some people definitely got injured in the days running up to the event: thus there were two wildcards that didn't even know they were riding until the previous night. Pilgrim was definitely there; he was on a couple of edits earlier in the week. My guess (tried to find coinfirmation online but failed) is that he got injured. Someone was down and needing attention on the backside of the whale-tail during the dual slalom feed....was it Sam?
Where is Pilgrim??? this is a joke or an afirmative that he is a pussy rider. only ride smaller jump contest. where is Pilgrim??? he is with his tail betwin his legs till today... or maybe sorrounded by his cockzsuckers
@mudmandhbrazil stfu he is a great rider and is free to choose what ever he wants to ride. Is andreu a pussy since he didn't ride joyride? I don't think so.
Was that the first crankworx without a major injury? There have always been huge crashes in previous years. Props to the course builders for making a smooth and safe course that could the riders could still go huge on.
bro, do you even Semenuk? - new verb that should be put out for events like Crankworx. 4 red bulls was way too much for one night, but would have fallen asleep otherwise due to Panjabi MC shoot earlier...
Nicholi. Rogatkin. Ro-motha-fucking-gatkin.
If he had been able to finish his fun... flip double whip into lawn dart frontflip, into cashroll, with off axis backflips, and tailwhips where others did tuck-no's. New favorite rider.
I'd like to see a side-by -side of Rheeder and Semenuk's runs. Rheeder's was mighty impressive, I thought it would hold up until Brandon went into first.
Truth to be told, I was getting bored... I know these tricks are super difficult but every time somebody was riding, there were flip-whips, backflips and x-ups.... And not that I am from Poland, but Szymon Godziek was the only one bringing something different... Backflip-cliffhanger, double seat grab or Tsunami were just shocking my eyes not letting me fall a sleep.... Thank You Simon
100% agree. TBH the score for the two top dogs was far too high - I'd like to see more variation in the runs. I'd still say they were the best, but the gap to the rest of the pack was just overrated. They weren't super-smooth, they had relatively few different tricks, etc. Simon, Louis and Yannick put on a more enjoyable Show - not just "push buttons"...
the only place where semenuk did't do a trick was the wall ride and the toilet bowl transfer. otherwise, an insane, almost perfect run. every trick showcased 2 tricks or something. so SICK!
Great Run Semenuk....!!!! It was the Magic of the the German Flag on the left Side at the Helmet....;-) Germany World Champion !!!..Brandon to.....!!!!!! Amazing !!!!
So that's what happened. Gotta admit I was really looking forward to seeing what Soderstrom would have laid down. Pilgrim too. I'm still confused on Pilgrim. Either he got hurt, or just decided to leave before the comp.....?
"Sorry to those who wanted to see me ride in crankworx, I dunno why but this year I've been getting crazy mental blocks at the events, it could be a mixture of pressure from last year and stress etc, who know's, anyway I'll be back at some point just need to sort out my mindset! Don't wanna be hitting 50footers while I'm not feeling 100% really, do I!!!?" - Pilgrim
Some how I can understand Pilgrim, because it is really hard for European riders to get on the podium across the ocean ;-) Exception Genon..... two years ago.....
Judges were spot-on with #1 and #2. #3 should've gone to Logan (Messere recycled tricks and did nothing oppo- ... but is a Red Bull sponsored rider...). Regardless, congrats to the winners.
With every single jump tricksed, 2 7.20 cork (one on step down, witch is world first), flip one foot can drop, flip double whip, 3.6 drop floot plant... I think he deserve it HELL YEAH !
go watch NBA or fooseball braah and leave mountain biking to mountain bikers please. I think their scoring system worked quite right during this contest and obviously the runs that Rheeder and Semenuk threw down, though both insanely gnarly, Semenuk's run had that edge. Rheeder fell down not because of the scoring board result... this is a joke of an argument, for real... would argue that you've hit a car just because the other driver drove past you and advanced? this is quite a childish argument sorry to say, but it truly is.
when riders come up to the event they take in that there is pressure surely for those who want to win badly. so you would say then in Olympic Snowboarding, just because Shaun White has a bigger fan base, he should have won it anyways? hell no... the rider who gets the win, is the one who pushes the envelope of his/her one single run and in both cases, snowboard and mountain biking, there are two runs, therefore one best run counts. Shaun and Brett know exactly the pressure of such big events and many others do as well. this is why they compete, to push that adrenaline buzz and to progress, like Harry Main said in his interview, onto level number 2.
and another thing about scoring... really why shouldn't he have gotten the score he has got? Shaun has gotten 100 points at xgames because he did in fact those tricks which nobody else did and so did Semenuk as well -> flat flip cancan drop and corked 720 off the step down. the magnitude and how clean everything was done shows that he has them dialed and it also shows to the judges that he is capable of throwing down even in the first run.
your theory just breaks down like that sir, with a flicker of two fingers
I'm talking about 4 main places - although I haven't rewatched so I'm sure there are others. The Boner log, the hip, into the toilet bowl and out of the wallride, where Semenuk allotted a total of two tailwhips and two straight airs, whereas other riders were actually doing combos - although I never actually suggested his run didn't have combos. Again, all I'm saying is that he left room for improvement there - it was a safety run, and if he put down his best run it would have been a 103 with that scoring.
You need to reread my comment because I didn't say a lot of the things you said I said. (In particular that I think Semenuk's run was the best, because it so clearly was). My point about the pressure is based off of D1 college experience, and it is surely applicable to here. I do a sport where you have 3 attempts to throw something as far as you can, yet the sport is about finesse, just as much as power. A big thing in the sport is to hit a good throw early. It puts the pressure on the other guy, and the other guy is likely to try to muscle the javelin, and it can end up not going as far.
I'm not sure how that argument is childish. Reeder knew he couldn't out-trick Semenuk's 96.8, so he had to out amplitude him, which failed because he ended up overshooting. What experience competing do you have?
Nevermind!