1 - Kurt Sorge | 96.50 | Staying with 1st run score | |
2 - Andreu Lacondeguy) | 95.75 | Wind - Not taking 2nd run. | |
3 - Graham Agassiz | 94.75 | Wind - Not taking 2nd run. | |
4 - Brandon Semenuk | 94 | 94.25 | |
5 - Thomas Genon | 91.25 | Not taking 2nd run. | Takes FMB Overall |
6 - Cam Zink | 89.25 | Not taking 2nd run. | |
7 - Darren Berrecloth | DNF (Missed Line, but ok) | 87 | |
8 - Brendan Fairclough | 77 | 85.5 | |
9 - Sam Reynolds | 83 | 40 (Crash, but ok) | |
10 - Remy Metailler | 80 | 82.5 | |
11 - Kyle Strait | 82 | Not taking 2nd run. | |
12 - Pierre Edouard Ferry | 78.50 | 81.75 | |
13 - Brett Rheeder | 81.5 | 51.75 (Crashed mid run and finished) | |
14 - Kyle Norbraten | 80.50 (got engaged) | Not taking 2nd run. | |
15 - Logan Binggeli | 75.50 | 66.75 | |
16 - Bas Van Steenbergen | 70.50 | 70.50 | |
17 - Ryan Howard | 66.75 | 64.75 | |
18 - Mitch Chubey | 63.25 | DNF (Wash out, but ok) | |
19 - Kelly McGarry | 62.25 | 62 |
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The proposal you dummy hahahahaaaa sick run none the less!
The stream was long and dragged out.
And I almost had my phone taken away in class...
We need a post-rampage Bender interview.
I'm sure that will never happen though because getting scores one after each run means the 'drama" of scoring and unseating is perpetually there. Its entertaining but its not accurate.
As they tell us over and over, we have no clue how steep this stuff is. So when I disagree with a judge, I'm much more likely to assume I missed something they saw than vice versa.
On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Semenuk's tricks get discounted because he makes them look so easy. You could hear the disappointment on the feed at him not throwing a cork 720, while other guys get big props for a superman. For me, riding Zink's vertical chute should get more points than anything you do off a wooden ramp, but that's what we have people's choice for.
i found some of the flat backflips (like rheeder's) were super impressive but under judged. i find the tricks pretty intense, all these guys are on super steep terrain, yeah Zinks shoot is a trick by itself, but i would say its any more gnarly than Brendog's hopping and skipping around his billy goat trail. he was serious touching ground as much as he was in the air on that middle section. so nuts, and he got a backflip in.
idk, Sorge's run was good, but there are too many epic runs to give it such a decisive victory if its even worthy of winning.
And with that format, it's a real judgement based on criterias and rules which has been discussed before (that does not insure that the judges are good...). And all in all, to have a good balance, i think it's good to have awards, like people or riders ones, which has been judged after...
Maybe the jugdes spended to much time in the Utah sun
for me....
Semenuk 1st
Lacondeguy 2nd
Zink 3rd
Rampage judging seems to change every year, but it seems this year the tricks were rewarded less than in other years, where then they were being complained about and not being "true" rampage. It seems the judging was trying to go more back to the roots this year.
Not gonna take it from Claw though, still my favorite rider!
A fairer way would be to let all the riders come down and THEN rank each run (using recorded footage). There's an old saying 'Hindsight is 20/20". Well, then to get a perfect result use the benefit of hindsight with a dose of footage.
Not only that... they sit there and talk over the scores. Bull shit.
You have 1 judge for flow/speed. He puts his score in. 1 judge for tech/overall difficulty. Put their score in. 1 for tricks/variety/creativity/style. They put their score in. 1 judge for overall run. They put their score in. Then you do a live feed viewers score. You put that in. Average it all out WITHOUT anyone talking to each other. Score comes out.
This talking thing is all b.s. I've done events of all kinds. When you talk there is always that run that someone comes in super hyped like HOLY CRAP did you see that sender. Then everyone gets hyped and all the scores get bumped. Each judge bumps a litttle bit an run that should be an 88 is now an 93. It's stupid.
This event has been around 10 years. It's time to legitimize the judging. Especially with $100k plus on the line and people putting their lives on the run.
How the hell do you give T.Mac an 82 on his qualifying run and then give bredog an 85 or whatever it was for his run. Sorry but TMAC's run was WAY gnarlier and way more flowy.
This event is gonna hit that point where it can't just be a bunch of bros voting for their bros.... going... dude... aggy has been top qualifier 4 times. He deserves a podium. Or... yo bro... zink did a similar run to last year he doesn't deserve a high score. Even though his line was f*cking gnarly. That top of that line was beast. Then he sends a couple big hits cleaner than last year... and finishes out with hits at the bottom. And some how ends up with a lower score than before? WTF? That was a clear case of...well we expected more...
Needs to be an outside balancer.
Just like with all these corrupt as fight organizations. Need an outside party. A professional.
Maybe have Cam McCaul have a vote. Hell, he's done it. He could still do it. He's helped a few of those guys pull off the tricks they're known for...etc.
Remember the year Gee came second without doing a single trick? He had a hard line and rode fast. He also sent a gap nobody else landed.
But the communication thing is huge. Anytime judges are allowed to talk to one another the scores will be skewed. It's too easy for a group to hype itself up. You don't see Olympic judges turning to each other like BRO CRAZIEST RIBBON DANCE EVER, AMIRITE?!
(would have kind of killed the tension tho...)
I don't have any problems with judges scoring amplitude against tricks.
But they have to set a Scale and be consistent with that.
How can Aggy and Lacondeguy hit the same Line, Aggy straight air everything with a flip o Polaris jump escored 94,75 . Lacondeguy trick a huge flat on the Hip jump and a couple more flips and tricks and score only 1 point more???? How they came with that score???? Sorge rode almost the same line than Zink but skip the huge drop mid run and trhu a bunch smalll tricks on the ridge line. Zink went straight to a huge drop and a 360 on another big drop a huge flit on another drop and scored 10 points less than Sorge...... Thats my point ...
We never know if tricks score more than amplitude because so often the judges themselfs doesnt know how to score.....
The Riders fill confused on how to aproach his run because they also cant figure how the judges score the runs....
The event like every year was awesome. But the judging..... So Amateur......
This judging system is beyond f*cked.
Next year, competitors get 2-3 runs of their choice, any runs, add the 2 runs and you have a winner. Who cares if all of them want to try Aggy/Andreu's run.
Have at her! May the best rider win.
Simple really. No digging really needed, just practice.
I'd like to see something like this...
12 dudes instantly qualified from being past podium sitters. 12 guys invited because they're dope. 6 guys invited by fan vote out of a list submitted by the powers that be.
Total of 30 guys. PERIOD.
No qualifying.
You show up... spend 3-4 days fixing up your lines and paying off guys to use parts of their lines, etc. 1-2 days of practice and line adjustments.
1 day. 1 run each. The results of that run determine the take off times for day 2. Riders choice. You win you can decide to go 1st last or 10th... whatever the hell you want. Everyone takes turns down the list picking slots until they're gone.
Best run of the 2 days wins.
You have these awards:
Top 3 guys overall.
Best trick.
Viewers choice.
Riders choice.
Everyone gets prize money or goodies.
You get rid of qualifying and you limit useless injuries. If they were taking it seriously this year and took a look at what TMAC did he would have score more than 82 and at the very least been eligible for the other awards. As it is now... f*cking waste of time and risk to his body. Same for the other guys that got hurt in qualifying.
These are professionals. They don't need to prove they deserve to be there. If they need to prove it they shouldn't be there.
Sorry but the system needs to be changes. It's not a grass roots event of a bunch of pyscho's jumping off cliffs anymore. This is a high dollar event that some guys spend the whole year prepping for. Needs a change.
Every year it's way way too heavily effected by wind and poor judging. Both are easily avoidable and repairable.
I was however very happy to see how many guys made it top to bottom and see a few guys with Bell logos on their heads. LOL!
I'm happy to help fix it. LOL!
Judges.........eeejits.
Semenuk not in the top 3?
Zink not scoring over 90?
Wtf?
However, I agree with Best Trick awarded to Sam Reynolds (but another Best Trick trophy should be manufactured for Norbs' proposal ! )
Why not just let all the finalists have their runs first and THEN do the judging? That way you could really compare ALL the runs relative to each other, and maybe (you never know with these judges though) there wouldn't be such ridiculous unwarranted scores like that 96.5
#norbsgotengaged
Oh and yes of course #semenukgotrobbed!
'nuff said.
PS: Congrats for KYLE
The judges have a tough job - However they are also on site and as such will have a different experience and perspective than people sitting at their computer watching a live feed through the camera eye. I get that everyone has their favorite that they want to see win, however that doesn’t change the fact that this is a judged event, and the panel is arguably more qualified than most posters here. Flame away.
Semenuk did perfect flat drop flip can : okay,good trick
Aggy/Lacon/Sorge did something super sketchy like flat450 on hip , which Lacon barely survived, or a silly sui nohand from aggy on step-down : SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!!
Really,Semenuk jumps same things with tricks much more cleaner, than aggy without it (about last transfer jump).
Logan Binggeli built one or two features & poached the rest
You all did great in my eyes cuz you all managed to make it out alive and well.....walking...(sort of)!
And great to see a fellow BC'r win it.
Thanks again for the GREAT show!!!
Fringe" cultural phenomenon, it's big money and exploitation great athletes. Come on guys get it together and get together. Stick it to the big guy.
Like zinc said; it is what it is. If you arent buds with the judges dont expect a good result.
I honestly think the dude who did the double back flip would have stole the show and placed first.
North proposing was so unexpected and awesome but it felt so awkward and cringey because he didn't say anything and finally he said "will you?" HAHHAHAHAHAA North is the man!
What happened to Nico Vink?
11 - Remy Metailler 80 82.5
here were I live 82,5 is higher compare with 82 ..... so?
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if i want to see everything perfect id watch slopestyle, i meen this is Rampage for f**k sake
#norbsgotthegirl
And f*ck that wind.... hellish f*cking wind.... hate that shite!!!
Can't believe I didn't see Aggy, Lacondeguy and Zink's second runs...
2016 please!!!
Get back to Crankworkx kids... this is Rampage.
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Definitely and backflip one footer is waaaaaay harder.
How can Aggy and Lacondeguy hit the same Line, Aggy straight air everything with a flip o Polaris jump escored 94,75 . Lacondeguy trick a huge flat on the Hip jump and a couple more flips and tricks and score only 1 point more???? How they came with that score???? Sorge rode almost the same line than Zink but skip the huge drop mid run and trhu a bunch smalll tricks on the ridge line. Zink went straight to a huge drop and a 360 on another big drop a huge flit on another drop and scored 10 points less than Sorge...... Thats my point ...
We never know if tricks score more than amplitude because so often the judges themselfs doesnt know how to score.....
The Riders fill confused on how to aproach his run because they also cant figure how the judges score the runs....
The event like every year was awesome. But the judging..... So Amateur......
Semenuk has all of this.
All others are SKETCHY as f*ck, compare to him. And didnt do tricks at all, compare to him.
For what aggy have 3rd place?Straight sketchy jumps, little size?Oh yeah,he have 2 real features-2 big drops, one with a sui nohand (hard trick,LOL). And Brandon has no features...He has RUN.
To me, Rampage is a contest to see huge drops, innovation and limit testing. For what i've saw, Semenuk only made tricks. No new lines, no course innovation... If i was a judge, he was ahead of Aggy, but first... it's to much.
who won the polaris though?
1. Semenuk 25%
2. Zink 17%
3. Reynolds 11%
4. Lacondeguy 10%
5. Bizet 9%
Total 72%
#yeahmaths
#YeahDrunk
#derp
#faircommentsguys
First of all they aren't paid unless the podium; and beyond that what amount of money compensates someone for a life changing injury? A shattered ankle that never heals properly, or worse than that a paralysis or a death?! You could tell how badly Adreu and Aggy wanted to drop in watching them wait for their second run. When the time elapsed they were discussing safe ways to ride of the mountain period with the wind being what is was, let alone trying to trick a line with 60 foot plus airs in it.
Its the height of selfishness to say that riders should ride in conditions that make and already incredibly dangerous event even more risky simply for your entertainment. These are humans and fellow riders, not f***ing gladiators. You want someone to put their life and their career on the line so you can be entertained watching it all from the safety of your sofa?!?! Pull your head out of your a*s!!!