Results - Red Bull Rampage 2015

 Robbed in the long run eh? Congrats to Norbs

 May this be the reason why he and the Coastal Crew parted ways ?? imo it could

 Their wedding should be at next year rampage at the start gate

 Today was a productive day at school... Didn't learn one thing but instead watched 4 hours of rampage! Hell yeah

 Can't believe Semenuk was put to FOURTH with THAT run, winning one in my eyes if we don't include the fellow lads that crashed their aboslutely mental ones.

 new hashtag #semenukgotshafted

 judging sucks as much as weather... again

 semenuks run had it all he got robbed

 judging aside .. great rampage. thnx riders! crazy show!

 Semenuk is on another level. He somehow looks even smoother than the racers. The nose bonk was so casual, did he even have his eyes open?

 Hope he gets a pre-nup or #norbsgotrobbed may see a comeback!

 There was a few nice Runs and it was Hard to say who got the best. I prefer more Smooth runs with Style. Maybe its couse im for very long into Freeride. Anyway im happy that there was not again another Suizid Oakley Sender. For me its not only who do the Biggest Jump or the best Trick. Also i gotta say i dont like the pressure of the events anymore. I mostly like FEST Series. Just having fun!

 #CLAUDIOgotrobbed

 seriously what kind of smack were these judges smoking?

 I just got home from work...missed the live showing where can I find a replay? The Redbull website sucks dick....

 "So Norbs, I gotta ask you, were you more nervous about the run or the proposal"
The proposal you dummy hahahahaaaa sick run none the less!

 I want what ever the judges are smoking, must be some primo stuff, shouldve been semenuk with Zink in second

 #Semenukgotshafted for sure. His run was cleaner than everybody's.

 If only the wind wasn't such a factor ! Still a good Rampage. Congrats Sorge, way to rep. Nelson, BC too. Lot's of Canadian shredders eh !

 @bikebuster www.redbull.tv/videos/event-stream-556/mountain-bike-freeride-thrills-from-utah-usa?wtk=Snappy&cttp=heat:1079 it even lets you select individual riders!

 NBC Dec 27th. Red Bull will slowly release bits of footage before that but they save it for the TV event.

 Aww yeah. Stoked for our local boy! All the kokanee shuttles paid off haha. Twice!!

 I'm watching it on red bull tv right now

 I really want somebody to step up to the plate and make a "no bullshit" edit of all the footage today.
The stream was long and dragged out.
And I almost had my phone taken away in class...

 14th Kyle Norbraten 80.50 (got engaged) wife wouldn't let him take 2nd run. . .

 @rjrx @jeffrupert
We need a post-rampage Bender interview.

 Imagine if she said no and #NorbsGotRobbed ...... again.

 He did get robbed again.

 Kurt had a gnarly non stop run - it was raw and wild - not dialed and pinned. He stomped every landing and every turn with style and speed with an intensity none of the other riders had. It's a small detail that the judges were giving high points for. If you're a dialed rider you better go crazy big - if not then you better year that mountain apart. Kurt Andreu and Aggy did exactly that - it's tough to judge but Brandon being so smooth and dialed probably costed him points rather than being hang onto the bars for dear life style.

 hahaha @somismtb by looking at her first reaction when norbs kneeled I seriously thought she was gonna say no or 'I don't know' hopefully she didn't

 Semenuk was the best, two perfect ass fcking runs with tons of flips. He should have won. And Bizet should've got the people choice award, insane attempt on the double backflip. I'm sure we won't see someone succeed one of those or at least attempt one for another few years.

 Bizet, next year...

 The biggest issue with the judging is that its happening right after each run, and if the judges are stocked on a performance on one line then it dictates the scores that follow on that line and visa versa on other lines. I think they should hold off and present the scoring after everyone has done their first run. Judging IRT a competition where the course is not preset doesn't work.

I'm sure that will never happen though because getting scores one after each run means the 'drama" of scoring and unseating is perpetually there. Its entertaining but its not accurate.

 Seems like the judges have alot of bill to pay.

 Spot on mate

 you mean rockstar rider

 Bizet was RIGHT THERE!!! if he tried it again he'd fucking nail it. i can see there being a video later this year when he returns to Virgin Utah of him blowing that shit up.

 @freestylAM I think the judges have been there all week and have a good sense for each rider's line before they drop. They were there and know whose features had everyone gathered around holding their breath during practice etc.

As they tell us over and over, we have no clue how steep this stuff is. So when I disagree with a judge, I'm much more likely to assume I missed something they saw than vice versa.

On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Semenuk's tricks get discounted because he makes them look so easy. You could hear the disappointment on the feed at him not throwing a cork 720, while other guys get big props for a superman. For me, riding Zink's vertical chute should get more points than anything you do off a wooden ramp, but that's what we have people's choice for.

 some of the tricks semenuk does are squeezed in sooo quickly and he throws them off of the smallest shit.

i found some of the flat backflips (like rheeder's) were super impressive but under judged. i find the tricks pretty intense, all these guys are on super steep terrain, yeah Zinks shoot is a trick by itself, but i would say its any more gnarly than Brendog's hopping and skipping around his billy goat trail. he was serious touching ground as much as he was in the air on that middle section. so nuts, and he got a backflip in.

idk, Sorge's run was good, but there are too many epic runs to give it such a decisive victory if its even worthy of winning.

 @freestyIAM getting the score after each run is a classic TV format and it's the best. How can you stay in front of a broadcast for 4 hours if you don't know who is leading the thing and who can beat it?

And with that format, it's a real judgement based on criterias and rules which has been discussed before (that does not insure that the judges are good...). And all in all, to have a good balance, i think it's good to have awards, like people or riders ones, which has been judged after...

 Bizet would have probably won people's choice if Semenuk didn't get robbed of at least a podium. Here's how I look at it. Top 3 guys all sent gnarly big runs. NO ONE sent a cleaner more trick filled run then Semenuk. No one. How that doesn't get on the podium is besides me.

 its a tough one to judge, the fact that every line is different makes for a ton of variables. It might help to make the judging more transparent, seeing the flow, tech, trick, line choice breakdown would be good.

 My thoughts exactly. No idea how zink ended up in 6th with that run.

 that 360 drop was the craziest trick of the contest. No other rider would attempt that.

 The worst shit I'm seeing on PB is "HAY GUYS DONT FORGET RAMPAGE IS ABOUT FREERIDE NOT SLOPESTYLE" like semenuk just showed up on a 4 inch bike and did a backflip double whip and followed that with ten other combo tricks. f*cking christ the dude knows how to slay a big bike people, arguably better then probably most of other guys. Yeah he can throw banger tricks on top of it. Y'all were rooting for Bizet but can't do the same for Semenuk? Guess what, Bizet likes tricks too. The event you people are looking for who have seemed to think whips, backflips and suicide no handers are *the only* tricks that are allowed in "freeride" is redbull hardline. Tricks have always been an integral part of freeride.

 Next time lets ditch the judges and have the fans vote online!

 No effin way. If you're not there in person to see the lines first hand ....no way

 Its a lot harder to compare riders here as opposed to a slopestyle event because they all ride different lines. In some video I was watching they said that the judges walk the entire mountain and look at everyone's line to see how gnarly/technical it is, so I want to trust their judgement but i still feel like Brandon or Aggy should have won.

 On re-watch Zink's line definitely looks best in the stream. It looked like Brandon had a cool drop they didn't really manage to catch on camera. I think where it will get real interesting is next year. I was surprised riders didn't get docked for re-using their lines, but watching the dig videos and hearing how many of them actually took two years to finish. Next year it will be real hard to make that case. I love Zink's line, but even the nastiest line gets less impressive with repetition. Seems like no one using the YT ramp qualified. Presumably they only built it because there were some decent lines over there that just didn't link back up to the finish. I'm very interested to see who moves on and who stubbornly sticks to their 3 year old line.

 #Brandongotrobbed

 SemenukGotShafted

 Even Lacondeguy on his first run was way better than Sorges! Semenuk had an unbelievable 2nd... No question, that he deserved the win!
Maybe the jugdes spended to much time in the Utah sun
for me....
Semenuk 1st
Lacondeguy 2nd
Zink 3rd

 lets talk about Paul Bas' fucking hucks. the backflip to a SUPER quick 270. like he had to transition so quikcly into that next trick. and he drop was FUCKING CRAZY!!! NUKING FUTS DUDE!

 i was thinking in his second run he was going to do a cork off the razor booter.

 yeah. idk. sorge was over judged. i'd put him at like 5th or fourth Semen Lacon Brendog Zink Sorges... maybe. idk. judging was off

 and if reynolds or bizet finished they'r runs. they'd definitely be first. or paul bas. those 3 were going BIG

 Congrats to Brandon taking the peoples choice award and sick new Razr whip! Both runs were on point and he came out a winner either way.

 Yeah but they didn't finish their runs and that is part of the deal. Just like the wind, it's not like that is an unexpected and unknown element at Rampage. There is a certain amount of thought that has to be put into the first run, line selection, which tricks, how big to go, will I get a second run, etc.

 #semenukgotnorbed

 A new razor is shit compared to 100k

 Semenuk didn't get robbed. The others got scored too high. And Zink was under scored imo.

 Any word on bass's status?

 @TFreeman , that RZR is worth around $25K. The $100K was split up among the top scoring athletes, so I'd say he still did alright.

 Well I'd still rather have 25k than a razor. Just saying I'm sure they'd rather have the money

 Re-watching Zink and Semenuk and Sorge's runs, I believe now that Sorge's run was better than I originally thought. Maybe not as good as Semenuk's tricks, but he took some of those steep sections with full speed and his whole line was smooth and he tricked nearly everything. Now I am seeing why Zink did not score as high: he had to go slow through the chute and he did not trick the last section. Still, Zink had some powerful big moments: perhaps the biggest moments of a run that finished, but I think Sorge's all-around was impressive. I have a little more respect for the judging now. I'm sure a lot has to do with how exposed a section is past a landing, etc., as those big tricks are impressive but probably have safer landing regions.

Rampage judging seems to change every year, but it seems this year the tricks were rewarded less than in other years, where then they were being complained about and not being "true" rampage. It seems the judging was trying to go more back to the roots this year.

 Totally agree!!

 what is more confusing is that Claw got 84.75 and then his points got updated to 87.00. Nerves got its way to the judges?

Not gonna take it from Claw though, still my favorite rider!

 Are you sure?Semenuk is under Lacondeguy!

 @funbert Dude even though I agree with you about the scores you need to learn to spell before you go all guns a blazin' with that crap.

 Ya, I am a huge Claw fan, but I agree, his run was a little too highly scored. There were so many amazing runs... But hell, I'll give it to him for giving it a go in the wind. So great.

 @rifu I was sure Brendog was 7th, then the final scores came up with Claw in 7th. Thought it was just my mind playing tricks, what's the deal with that?!

 Brendog is hard done by every year. The man threw down this year with that flip that he wanted last year. I'm pretty sure he scored 77.00 last year without the improvements to his line or the flip in his run. Shows how differently the runs were scored this year.

 His score is pretty high for what he did, but I think he got that because he dropped in such awful weather when nobody else would and still threw down a good run. Everything he did was made harder by the wind

 I agree. He got to the bottom quickly, smoothly and in weather than even Aggy and Andreu wouldn't ride in. I think the score was justified

 Whether the score was justified or not, you don't hit the 'send to live telly feed' button until all concerned agree on the score. That's slack.

 He got a score bump because he's a legend and because he sent it in the wind. Gnar.

 I was on my feet for that one. It'll still go into the halls of legend.

 no doubt!!! He gets the award for coming out swinging the hardest!!! So burls!

 dude. even with the crash, i would have given that a solid 65. fuckin epic. and reynold's beasty ass superman over the canyon gap was super moto!!

 Antoine bizet is the man. Back flipping the canyon gap in qualifine shows that this man goes all in and does not step back. His final run is legend, even he did not reach the finish line. Get well soon!

 He lands that double he wins the event and likely scores very close to 100. Gnarliest run I've ever seen.

 YES! Thank you.

 Had this very same conversation with my co-worker today. It's pretty clear that the earlier guys get shafted as far as score goes because they's scared to throw huge numbers out there right away. Then they get hyped and start tossing out all kinds of stupidity.

Not only that... they sit there and talk over the scores. Bull shit.

You have 1 judge for flow/speed. He puts his score in. 1 judge for tech/overall difficulty. Put their score in. 1 for tricks/variety/creativity/style. They put their score in. 1 judge for overall run. They put their score in. Then you do a live feed viewers score. You put that in. Average it all out WITHOUT anyone talking to each other. Score comes out.

This talking thing is all b.s. I've done events of all kinds. When you talk there is always that run that someone comes in super hyped like HOLY CRAP did you see that sender. Then everyone gets hyped and all the scores get bumped. Each judge bumps a litttle bit an run that should be an 88 is now an 93. It's stupid.

This event has been around 10 years. It's time to legitimize the judging. Especially with $100k plus on the line and people putting their lives on the run.

How the hell do you give T.Mac an 82 on his qualifying run and then give bredog an 85 or whatever it was for his run. Sorry but TMAC's run was WAY gnarlier and way more flowy.

This event is gonna hit that point where it can't just be a bunch of bros voting for their bros.... going... dude... aggy has been top qualifier 4 times. He deserves a podium. Or... yo bro... zink did a similar run to last year he doesn't deserve a high score. Even though his line was f*cking gnarly. That top of that line was beast. Then he sends a couple big hits cleaner than last year... and finishes out with hits at the bottom. And some how ends up with a lower score than before? WTF? That was a clear case of...well we expected more...

Needs to be an outside balancer.


Just like with all these corrupt as fight organizations. Need an outside party. A professional.

Maybe have Cam McCaul have a vote. Hell, he's done it. He could still do it. He's helped a few of those guys pull off the tricks they're known for...etc.

 ^ Very insightful, I've suspected a lot of that was going down. Definitely hear you on it being time to legitimize judging, because whatevers going on in the judges tent right now is too much of a circle jerk. Aggy did pretty much the identical run to his quali run yesterday, but for whatever reason today it earned him 5 more points. The rationale going on behind these scores likely just follows the direction of conversation in that judging tent. Another redbull event that's gone down like this in the past is the whole Ultranatural snowboard thing travis rice or whatever does. Thanks for your post btw.

 Darren is it you?

 The problem with all this speculation about scoring is that we simple weren't there, rampage isn't just about tricks, its roots are also firmly based in line choices and difficulty. It's very easy to see a rider trick a feature and think he should be scored highly for the trick while someone else sends a crazy line that's barely rideable and gets a better score.

Remember the year Gee came second without doing a single trick? He had a hard line and rode fast. He also sent a gap nobody else landed.

 @Nobble that's exactly why @onemanarmy has the right idea. The only way to guarantee that speed/flow and tech get proper and fair weighting in the final score is to have them actually judged separately. It's also the only way to have any transparency into how we arrive at the final scores. I like that idea a lot.

But the communication thing is huge. Anytime judges are allowed to talk to one another the scores will be skewed. It's too easy for a group to hype itself up. You don't see Olympic judges turning to each other like BRO CRAZIEST RIBBON DANCE EVER, AMIRITE?!

 I agree, but one of the judge's (wade simmons) completed in the first rampage so you'd think that would help!

 I was absolutely sure the judges would unleash the 100-hammer after semenuks 2nd, but it didn't happened
(would have kind of killed the tension tho...)

 If the wind hadn't picked up they would have needed it. You can tell that in the first round they weren't ready for so many to kill it so hard

 @tttyyler Absolutely, there was not too much room above 96.5

 It was just a JOKE.... Zink gets 89.25 for one of the most rowdy lines in history, and they give Aggy 5 points more for repeating his qualifier run. #festconspiracy

 "Riders' scores are based on four categories: line choice, fluidity and style, air and amplitude, and tricks. " Zink in the bottom had weak fluidity i think... that's why he got lower score.

 werd

 That's what they were handing out to non Red Bull athletes. Athletes without a energy drink sponsorship got offered Red Bull as well Go watch the end of Bas' run

 I agree water is the best, but we need the evil that is Red Bull for more of these events and their absolute backing of sports that deserve to have more limelight.

 Tell Bizet he crushed it today. Proud of that guy! Sincerely, Pinkbike

 Nice post. Much respect. Do me a favor... get that helmet back from Rogatkin. Let us know how it tests out. No better field test for your tech. The fact that russian robot got up and finished.... helmet did its job.

 Side note... just realized 3 of your riders got hurt or at the least crashed big. Not sure what White ended up doing.

 Give them a raise! They deserve it! Bizet was killing it today!

 @onemanarmy We definitely plan on getting Nicholi's helmet back and doing further testing to see how it performed. He was actually riding in a production Shiva that was custom lined with a new material we're testing to help reduce rotational forces and low G impacts.

 Nice. Im curious how tmac would have faired in that lid or a bell with mips.

 Could not have said it better. Semenuk is awesome and so stylish but this is a freeride big mountain event and not slopestyle. Bizet's both runs in qualies an in finals were insane. I was so gutted when he crashed.

 Is that the criteria? A "donger"? Did semenuk lose because he didn't straight-air something big enough? Because I'm sure he could've. Call it whatever you want, but I n every FMB contest there is a course, and whoever makes the most impressive overall run down the course should win. Now, opinions can vary on who that is, but it's been clear for years now that the judges are seeing things differently than the mtb public.

 Yeah what is this post getting at? More straight airs and less tricks is more free ride? Did you all forget that semenuk is bred out of Squamish and was much a part of free riding coming up as your podium today? Just because he threw more complicated tricks in doesn't make it any less free ride, it's the same shit you and your buddies would scream for in the woods when one of your mates drops an oppo three at your favorite local trails. Automatically discounting him because he's also a slope style champ doesn't even work here, because everyone and their mother knows he still gets his time in on the big bike.

 Congrats to all Riders on making the most entertaining week !! Results apart......
I don't have any problems with judges scoring amplitude against tricks.
But they have to set a Scale and be consistent with that.
How can Aggy and Lacondeguy hit the same Line, Aggy straight air everything with a flip o Polaris jump escored 94,75 . Lacondeguy trick a huge flat on the Hip jump and a couple more flips and tricks and score only 1 point more???? How they came with that score???? Sorge rode almost the same line than Zink but skip the huge drop mid run and trhu a bunch smalll tricks on the ridge line. Zink went straight to a huge drop and a 360 on another big drop a huge flit on another drop and scored 10 points less than Sorge...... Thats my point ...
We never know if tricks score more than amplitude because so often the judges themselfs doesnt know how to score.....
The Riders fill confused on how to aproach his run because they also cant figure how the judges score the runs....
The event like every year was awesome. But the judging..... So Amateur......

 Jesus christ not this shit again ^

 Aggy and Andreu have a monopoly on huge dongers.

 You missed his first massive move then?? f*ck... That thing is nasty and massive! The cameras don't do it justice

 I would like to see the breakdown for each rider. Flow, Tech, Trick, Line choice. It would make the judging way more transparent.

 Last i checked there were wood features (such as the YT kicker and the red bull canyon gap) on every single course over the past few years. You telling me that isn't apart of slopestyle? Rampage is more freeride mixed with slopestyle than one and not the other. Just my 2c though.

 as soon as Zink started flipping and 3ing the largest features it became a big mountain slope contest.

 Sure theres a slope element to it, but in a slope contest you lose 10 points just for slipping a pedal. That should not be the case at rampage. Semenuks run was insanely smooth and stylish but the biggest thing he did was the first 30ft drop, smaller than what aggy and andreau sent on the same line and I have to agree with the judges that an oppo 3 on a 20ft drop is not on par with a 76ft long 40+ft down gap, especially with a suicide thrown in. Zink got boned though, that was a 50ft drop he 3d, with a decent run after.

 Perfect statement. I don't get it too!!!

 I know what you mean man. It is something I can't understand too. There is no criteria!!!

 I feel the only rider who got majorly robbed was zink, his run was killer, semenuks run was super stylish and no doubt he maxed out the style scores, but he didn't really have any massive hits which accounts for his lower score... That said, zink has been way too over scored in the past with a couple of 1 trick ponies, so perhaps karma came around this year

 Be careful @ctd07. You're gonna get neg proped for saying Semenuk's run wasn't the best like I did. I totally agree with you. That's exactly what I said above.

 That'd be a good thing to keep in mind looking for a new venue...

 Virgin is plagued with wind year-round

 My understanding is that the wind picks up the later in the day it gets, so couldn't they start the comp as soon as the sun is up and the light is good?

 the whole mountain was shaped by rain and wind. its there all the time.

 It's the desert... it's easy easy to predict. Anyone that's lived in the desert can tell you. Afternoon... yeah that equals wind. All riding needs to happen before 2pm. Rain... generally speaking you can get pretty reasonable percentages a couple weeks out.

 Considering it was very windy out there Thursday morning then it calmed down as the day went on, you just really can't predict it. You really are at the wind's mercy out there.

 Yes indeed. I miss watching him ride. I'd like to see him compete a few times a year. But I"m happy to see him succeeding in this part of his career and helping other riders... brother included.

 Cam is doing an awesome job. He has clearly put in a lot of effort to succeed at announcing. Some of his quotes were hilarious too. He was on point and his personality is classic. Nice work. When he made fun of Pat Parnell's handwriting I laughed so hard. Or when Pat asked him how his french was...

 hahahaa "its just english with a french accent", hahahaha that was funny! I think it made it a lot more viewable, you know at some point I was wondering how could i have spend 3 hours+ seeing rampage and not being tired of it! it has to be in part because it was never boring with him talking not even the 30 min waiting for the wind It didn't even bother me, because i was entertained. a thing that did not happened on the last rampages it was painful to hear the commentator trying too hard to be funny and not being involved in the sport he didn't get the sense of it.

 f*ck that, one guy does two perfect unreal runs and gets less points then guys that do a single line down the mountain? yeah that drop is nuts and impressive as f*ck don't get me wrong; but not a better overall run imo!

 I totally agree that semenuks run was smoother and had better tricks in it, but (from the front of my screen), Sorges and Aggys Terrain looked way more rough and demanding

 How does zink get scored so much lower then when his terrain at the top of the run was ridiculous and He's putting 360 and flip drops in there too!!!

 Zink got hosed but it was not a better run than semenuks. And I don't think he could do Semenuk's run. Not as clean and not as style filled. He's a different kind of rider. Different lines for a reason. The top part of Zink's line... he'll never get the cred he deserves. That isht was super gnar. Was more impressed with that then the 3 and the flip.

 @onemanarmy I think you nailed it. Semenuk could do anyones run, but no one could replicate his.

 amen @jas1321

 You guys are nuts! Semenuk has never landed a 3 as big as Zinks. I will give you the fact that the technical side of Semenuks tricks "might" be hard for Zink to pull off but your missing the fact that Zink's 3 was at least 20 feet higher than Semenuk's. Semenuk had a flawless epic run that deserved top 3 for sure but I still dont think he went super huge on anything. Zink went SUPER HUGE. Plus the lead in to his big spin drop was so f*cking gnarly. Do you guys even remember the super technical lead in to the super big step down??? on to a 50+ foot 360 to a rad hip jump then to a 40+ foot back flip.. come on! Go watch his run again I'm telling you that you will see it my way:-)

 And as much as I love Andre and he is probably my favorite rider, he did not deserve top 3 on this. If you watch his run again he cased almost every jump. Yes rad 3 back flips but they were not all clean. Him and zink should be in each other podium spots. Judges botched this one bad. Its just too hard to judge that shit on the spot, they need to rethink the system. Let the judges watch each run on replay 2-3 times, then score each round after all rider have gone. Its the only way to fix this nonesense. Your talking about peoples careers here.. ZINK got jacked.

 And everyone realizes that a dude that did basically no tricks (D. Berrecloth) got a better score than a dude that did a picture perfect super man over the canyon gap followed by a huge no footed cancancatwalk that was BAD ASS (S. Reynolds).

This judging system is beyond f*cked.

 ^^^^ This

 Think they can iron out a little bit but I think you're right.

I'd like to see something like this...


12 dudes instantly qualified from being past podium sitters. 12 guys invited because they're dope. 6 guys invited by fan vote out of a list submitted by the powers that be.

Total of 30 guys. PERIOD.

No qualifying.

You show up... spend 3-4 days fixing up your lines and paying off guys to use parts of their lines, etc. 1-2 days of practice and line adjustments.

1 day. 1 run each. The results of that run determine the take off times for day 2. Riders choice. You win you can decide to go 1st last or 10th... whatever the hell you want. Everyone takes turns down the list picking slots until they're gone.

Best run of the 2 days wins.

You have these awards:

Top 3 guys overall.
Best trick.
Viewers choice.
Riders choice.

Everyone gets prize money or goodies.



You get rid of qualifying and you limit useless injuries. If they were taking it seriously this year and took a look at what TMAC did he would have score more than 82 and at the very least been eligible for the other awards. As it is now... f*cking waste of time and risk to his body. Same for the other guys that got hurt in qualifying.

These are professionals. They don't need to prove they deserve to be there. If they need to prove it they shouldn't be there.



Sorry but the system needs to be changes. It's not a grass roots event of a bunch of pyscho's jumping off cliffs anymore. This is a high dollar event that some guys spend the whole year prepping for. Needs a change.

Every year it's way way too heavily effected by wind and poor judging. Both are easily avoidable and repairable.


I was however very happy to see how many guys made it top to bottom and see a few guys with Bell logos on their heads. LOL!


I'm happy to help fix it. LOL!

 I think they should have to do all the judging a few hours after the event, once everyone has calmed down and runs can be compared side by side.

 well no contest goes like that.... I'm just really upset for those riders who deserved to win for how HARD they've been working.....

 Pretty rad... but in my opinion Rampage should not have been part of the discussion for that series.

 Didn't notice this at first. Not a good look for decent, objective judging.

 They have such a boner for that line, last year and again this year. Both Zink and Semenuk have just as difficult lines and trick out.

 No, it's Semenuk

 I was there. Reynolds little back flip at the top in do or die land combined with the superman and crazy dismount he missed... i think he was better that semenuk. Just missed that last jump.

 didnt qualify

 WAKI I don't think people appreciate your humor. This comment and your comment about capitalism dont get the upvotes they deserve.

 they did a pinkbike interview last year where they said the four categories line choice, amplitude, tricks, tech (i think?) all were part of the score and all did there part. never described how much of which factored into the overall score, but at this point the judging makes so little sense I don't think they could save face by trying to pull a system out of their ass and feeding it to us. they gave aggys exact same run he did in qualis 5 extra points for doing it in finals. theres no rhyme or reason to it. it clearly doesnt go to tech, speed or tricks, it mostly went to amplitude. they should be forward about that next year so people know what to build.

 Agreed! Thats how I had it

 also if every year has improved !

 not just here, he's always 8th to 13th on WC. I am a fan of that guy!

 I admit that, after reading more comments the jadges wasn't OK ...

 Well said

 +1000000
Semenuk did perfect flat drop flip can : okay,good trick
Aggy/Lacon/Sorge did something super sketchy like flat450 on hip , which Lacon barely survived, or a silly sui nohand from aggy on step-down : SHUT THE FRONT DOOR!!
Really,Semenuk jumps same things with tricks much more cleaner, than aggy without it (about last transfer jump).

 lacon had a great run, i feel like if he just did a superman on polaris jump he would have a better score, but looking at those "this is not slopestyle" coments it seems like people don't see Semenuks drop in(same or bigger than aggy/lacon), "lillypad" opo 360, and that flatspin 450 at the end, and not to mention just killing it with style and whips in between.

 Not a hype bubble. Sorge went big and went hard. But he missed most of his landing. He wasn't smooth. Didn't trick. Was super sketch in a lot of places. I guarantee you he did not expect to score that well on that run. He sure he had more planned.

 He went bigger and faster than all of them. The top section was the gnarliest. The ridge with most flow and big moves. And the gab was insane.

 Rheeder had poor top part.

 REDBULL RAMPRAGE

 Sorge went almost 3 times as big and still had tricks... Sorge still shouldn't of won though. or at least won with a 96.5

 Fully agree. He looks so smooth. Maybe he didn't go as big? I have a feeling he would of separated the field on a second run!

 Broke his ankle on the qualifying run because him and his crew didn't have time to finish the landing...

 Fack.....

 What about Zink then? Had everything, and imo the burliest line with by far the biggest tricks.

 insane flip tuck?which are sketchy? Sem did flip one foot can to a micro nohand and land it perfectly.

 Yep, Zink was definetly underscored, if he would've had a few more big jumps towards the bottom it would have been a winning line for sure, and I agree the judges had their weak moments, I was just saying that I dont think Semenuk should have won.

 is there a replay?

 do you have eyes?

 could you please share video where Semenul hit that 76 feet drop?

 well i could share a video where Semenuk hit the same steep start drop as Lacon/Aggy, did a "lillypad" opo 360(not freeride???), crazy clean 450 at the end, more style and flow than anyone, more (progressive/unusual)tricks than anyone. I'm not 100% sure he needed to win, but it was at least better than Aggy's run... I know it's not a slopestyle contest but it also isn't a "who landed further on a big drop" contest... Zink got robbed too

 www.redbull.tv/videos/event-stream-556/mountain-bike-freeride-thrills-from-utah-usa

 Thanks

 ^^^^^^^^^^