I don't understand what he means by "so gay." Does he mean gay as in happy or gay as in homosexual? Unless those guys are actually homosexual, I guess he means so happy. That seems right to me because of how much of fun they are having.
@ibikerday nothing about mtb is gay. hating is though. continue shuttling your dh or pushing it uphill as long as you want. being able to whip a light as hell bike around corners and small hits always does the job for me. actually works every time.
Ask anyone who's an authority on Mountain biking.. i.e. a Pro Elite. They'll tell you (as will I) that riding HT makes you a far better, faster and more competent rider. So, I can't see why you'd think that being good at something you supposedly love to do is gay
if u can only have 1 bike then i would have a hardtail. its good for everything. dont forget ur arms and legs are the best bit of suspension ur ever gna get so lern to use em
I have a Ragley Troof with a Domain out front, and I'm sorry, but it's honestly good for everything but cliff-hucking and full-on DH runs.
HT LOVE FOREVER!
iv got a full suss for gnarlier tracks and a hardtail for smoother tracks like 4x and dirt jump but i sometimes ride the hardtail DH as its so fun it doesnt really matter to me
Whenever I see a rider down the trails, they are still riders, irrespective of the bike they ride. If they were riding a hardtail on the downhill tracks I respect them, they put me to shame sometimes!
I started riding with a GT avalanche i now ride a dartmoor phantom and a mondraker summum absolutely love them both but the dartmoor cannot be beaten! much love,
iBikeERday.. I've ridden ht my entire life, and love it. Do us all favour and go shove someone's willy in your mouth and shut up. Chubzy Wubzy is 100% right. That's the reason I don't have a full dh, I can't afford it. Even though I really want one because full dh suspension because they look INSANLY fun, I'm sticking to my ht. it's like a fully and BMX in 1. So useful and SO much fun. Thanks
I rode ht for the first few years that I rode downhill. Made me a much more flowy rider and holy fuck its fun to rip down a dh trail with 4 inches of hard ass travel. makes you appreciate a dh bike much more. So ibikeerday, your just trolling go biking for fuck sakes, put your bike where your mouth is
hartail or FS, your choice, but i personally think everyone should at least learn on a hartail before getting a full suspension. theres no better way to learn that kind of control and flow than on a hardtail.
great job on the edit!!
i ride hardtail. love it. but if i could have only one bike in the world....p slope. THAT does everything. cant wait. gonna be the only guy in NZ with one.
If you live in an area with no real DH tracks i.e. south east England, then there's not much point spending £3000+ on a DH bike. Especially if u can't afford it then HT is the way to go!
did they win a pump track challenge at whistler? difference between it and say, killswitch, rampant, proto, konig, shine, bottlerocket, is that you can ride it anywhere. skatepark, djs, trails. and they are totally good lookin bikes.
this guy is such a dick, i ride DH when i can, and go out for a spin on the XC bike after school, i adore both, my hardtail is fun, cause its cheap to mess around on, whilst giving you the core skills to go faster on a DH bike,
and also, if he thinks hardtails are "gay" he clearly just thought it was cool and bought a DH bike first, and started looking down at people cause it has carbon on the frame.
This is a perfect example of how you actually don't need that 5000 dollar DH bike that you want. This is such an awesome/original video, good job guys.
You can't hardly find a 26inch hard tail in a shop these days... most of the big companies don't even make them unless you want the dirt cheap crap parts or youth bikes
But there's there's lots of great frames out there, it's a really nice thing to have one built up to your exact choice, even better to build it yourself. I love the fact that no-one has the exact same bike as me, it may not have the blingest parts but it rides so nice!
Man I remember seeing the articles in the British MTB Mag's about the hardtails they have with 160mm forks etc. Would be awesome to get some over here, then again I may be in the minority. I do miss my HT, if I were to get one I may have to fly to the UK and get one of their All-Mountain frames and mount up a 160 Fork. Maybe an Orange - Crush (140 Fork). Plus it seems I saved money, not to mention weight with the HT.
I'm running a Cotic BFe. EU Imports in PA carry them. 160mm 55 Micro Ti fork. It weighs a hair under 29 lbs with a FR/AM type build. The new ones come with 1.5" HT, ISCG tabs and dropper post guides. Can run a 180mm rotor. About $600. Thing is so nice. I don't really miss suspension, as long as the post is dropped. And it climbs any hill and is stiff as all get out in the BB area.
The vibe in this video is the exact reason that no matter how many other bikes I acquire, I'm never going to sell my Santa Cruz Chameleon... and if I break it, I'ma buy another one. It's just way too much fun to rip trails on a hardtail sometimes.
This video is old, from this spring in fact, but I just added the shaperideshoot intro before replace it on Pinkbike. It's the same song and the same edit.
Sweet!! I would be bruised and battered riding a hard tail down the trails. Reminds us how spoiled we are with full suspension bikes. Definitely takes more skills. My buddy rides a hard tail downhill and he'll do it with meaning! He's a heck of a lot better rider than me, that's for sure.
Great video! Added it to my faves!
Great video. I started out on a decent CX 26'er HT and after bending a few rims (and a million pinch flats...) I learned to use my limbs for suspension and it made me 10 times better. Plus, there's nothing like the aching hands you get after a long downhill bomb on a HT with a 100mm fork
Since I got a FS bike I've been missing my HT setup, sure its awesome to float over rocks and roots but I like the direct feel you get a with a HT. It's like you can feel the terrain so much better, not to mention being lighter weight and more pedal efficient. I don't know what people are talking about not being able to handle a full-on DH trail with a HT, just take your time, inspect your lines before riding, and grow some balls (or ovaries).
Why do I ride a hardtail? 1. They are are super light and chuckable (try riding down a knarly trail then having to ride back up on your full d/h rig! No lifts here in the UK!) 2. A decent hardtail frame starts around the same price as a mediocre full sus frame! 3. They are mechanically simple and frankly I don't need anything else! A hardtail built to your own spec is a truly special thing! I may buy other bikes in my life but I hope I don't ever have to get rid of my current hardtail!
Definately rocks. Seen this video way earlier this year on the Genesis Facebook page, nice to finally see Pinkbike feature it cause it's a great video! Really shows the fun and energy of riding hardtail, no matter how good a rider you are. I ride an Alpitude myself and it's the best and prettiest (check out my pics) hardtail I've owned so far. It made me sell my Ragley Mmmbop if that means anything...
Yeeee buddy, same with me the first 3 years of mountain shred. Learning to negotiate lines and use limb suspension has helped incredibly. Now I'm bombing my FS 6 inch faster than most of the dedicated DH rigs. Then when I hop on 8 inches (no gay pun intended), it's like having galactic super powers.
I'm with @lil-Chris. I run a slackline and I love it. I also had a giant glory and much rather ridey Hardtail because it just seemsore in contact with the trai. Saying HT's are gay is just him asking for attention. Ignore him and let Jim be an ignorant f*ck. Everyone else just ride on
I recently picked up a 2012 Charge blender on sale and love it, lucky i got it then as it seems Charge have dropped the blender from there 2012 range and gone heavy on 29" like a lot of other companies.
haha is this the season of bike movies/edits stealing songs from ski movies/edits and vise-versa; super heros of stoke took radioactive from strenght in numbers, grand bizarre took we are rebels from follow me, this song was in revolver and loficries was in an edit thats on the homepage!!!!
Hardtails are good training to ensure you keep that back end in check, I'll ride my hardtail hard and as fast as I can the twitchier the better then when I get on my DH bike it's alot Easyer to keep check of the back end, I think anyway!
i got a full suspension bike this summer, and forgot about my hardtail until last week... i forgot how much fun these things can be! im riding HT all fall long!!!
what? hardtails represent...; esp in dirt jump, 4-cross and slopestyle, and they send it. even for DH, it is all a matter of how smooth the track is and how much fun you can have flicking your light ride down the trail...
great vid. I know that if I am ever in tough financial times, I should still be able to afford a hardtail to keep the habit going. Some of those slack 29'ers look like they are fun!
Where and how would I go about building a bike like one of these in the U.S.? Seems like they'd fit the style of riding I'd want to do and maybe my price range also.
Beautiful! My only issue is the std. 1.125" headtube... I like tapered forks, and longer travel forks are generally stiffer with the 1.5" standard being applied, either as a taper, or full length.
Still.. I love the paint and the bracing up front is wicked!
Solid vid...but i still think the riding is a little weak....or maybe i just prefer more jumps and drops. All I ride is a hardtail cuz i just dont feel like spending the cash yet for an sx trail or something, but honestly i feel i shred harder than these guys on my HT. Guess it helps coming from a BMX/dirt jumping background.
I ride a full rigid and love hardtails too but the riding in that video sucked i hate to say... 2 dirt jumpers trying to rally and still pushing up the hill.. i have seen way better HT vids.. the edit was quite good but riding was kinda a joke...If that is the best they can do on a hardtail i think they should stick to the dirt jumps...Now days anyone can afford a nice camera and alot of people that think they can ride make these fancy edits to try to convince us they shred...If you have done any filming you know that you cant make a small jump look big or mediocre stuff look awesome..if you want to look cool on film you have to go as huge/fast/crazy as you can and then it might come out decent..Bottom line too much work on the computer and not enough on the bike...and who crashes that much just trying to skid a loamy corner?
Yeah you are right...People should look how cool you are on your own photos. For a full rigid rider, you really need a freeride bike to send a 4 foot drop? Thanks for your comment by the way, it really makes me smile.
sorry, didn't mean to get your flannel in a bunch, I never said my bike pics were cool, I put them up just to have some pics up because alot of people on here talk trash and dont even have any pictures..I was visiting a friend and borrowed his fully to ride blackrock...I ride strictly singletrack and got on a borrowed bike and hit almost every stunt there(a few years ago) in the pouring rain..I wasnt trying to take cool shots that day...maybe riding wet wood is your specialty LOL.. if you want to see what I was talking about as far as taking good pics look at my ski shots..maybe if someone would take off their dirt jump tires and put on some knobbies they wouldnt look like such a gimp..
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and also, if he thinks hardtails are "gay" he clearly just thought it was cool and bought a DH bike first, and started looking down at people cause it has carbon on the frame.
It doesn't alter the fact that it's awesome! Great edit, great riding and especially awesome to see guys shredding hardtails like that!
Since I got a FS bike I've been missing my HT setup, sure its awesome to float over rocks and roots but I like the direct feel you get a with a HT. It's like you can feel the terrain so much better, not to mention being lighter weight and more pedal efficient. I don't know what people are talking about not being able to handle a full-on DH trail with a HT, just take your time, inspect your lines before riding, and grow some balls (or ovaries).
1. They are are super light and chuckable (try riding down a knarly trail then having to ride back up on your full d/h rig! No lifts here in the UK!)
2. A decent hardtail frame starts around the same price as a mediocre full sus frame!
3. They are mechanically simple and frankly I don't need anything else! A hardtail built to your own spec is a truly special thing! I may buy other bikes in my life but I hope I don't ever have to get rid of my current hardtail!
I ride an Alpitude myself and it's the best and prettiest (check out my pics) hardtail I've owned so far. It made me sell my Ragley Mmmbop if that means anything...
**♥♥♥**
I'm in the market for a new frame. Maybe i'll look at hardtails again? Maybe a Stanton Slackline?
I soo want a bike like this
where is this?
best DH hartail out there!
My only issue is the std. 1.125" headtube... I like tapered forks, and longer travel forks are generally stiffer with the 1.5" standard being applied, either as a taper, or full length.
Still.. I love the paint and the bracing up front is wicked!
Dialled Bikes Alpine with RS Recon trail & Chromag Samuraï with 36 float.
btw, i've already seen this vid somewhere.Cool ride.
Trust me, I work for Genesis
The other is a chromag samuraî, pretty sure, look at 02:03.
Anyway.
www.pinkbike.com/video/281548
bravo les gars
joli edit
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