Sam Hill for the win at Mont Sainte Anne, 2014.
Reportedly, Sam Hill became the first male pro to win a World Cup DH event wearing a neck protector when he crossed the finish line at Mont Sainte Anne. One wonders why so few pro DH racers choose to race without similar protection, or why so many race without even basic protective gear like arm pads, gloves and spinal armor at all. Straw polls show that rank-and-file riders are more willing to pad up - even for XC trail rides. Among gravity competitors, the amateur classes are the best protected, with the lion's share decked out with elbows, knees neck protection and the obligatory full face.
Bike park riders are all over the map. High fashion for Whistler's hard core descenders is knee pads, a sleeveless T-shirt, neck protector and a pricey full-face helmet. Gloves and goggles are optional. Ride the Alpine parks on the European sub-continent and Whistler-esque fashion is quite prevalent, although matching gravity kits are the norm. Full-face helmets are proudly mandatory for European enduro and the EWS series, reportedly, because the courses are
oh so demanding. Yet, when the rock stars of enduro are ripping down the same trails on off days, you'll find almost every one if them wearing the extended half-shell that is popular among E-racers in North America.
Kelly McGarry for silver at Red Bull Rampage, 2013.
Riding off road on a bicycle guarantees regular, sometimes health-threatening contact with terra firma. Those are risks that we deem acceptable when weighed against the rewards of mountain biking. That said, the rule of inverses seems to apply to those who routinely put their lives and limbs on the line for mega style points. Where there is the assurance of great risk and small reward, it seems that protective gear is shunned. Freestyle, slopestyle and big-mountain riders - men who are sure to hit the ground hard and often, commonly choose slim knees under cotton/Spandex stretch-jeans, paired with a choice of a full-face or a skate helmet, with shirts, gloves and eyewear optional. Rampage riders are known to wear full kits, but many choose a light version with knees, stretch-jeans or DH pants, and pair that with a favorite cotton T-shirt for upper-body protection. Gloves, while worn by sponsored riders, are frowned upon.
Nowhere does the inverse rule apply more than with urban street-style BMX - where riders often launch from rooftop to rooftop, wallride second-story lines and huck to flat between concrete slabs and stairwells - without brakes. In the seedy cityscapes, the unspoken law for top 20-inch riders is: no helmet, no shirt, no gloves, no eyewear and, uh, shoe laces are optional equipment.
Sam Pilgrim, 2013 FMB World Tour Champion.
OK then, if you didn't guess by now, the polls for today are:
But always wear a helmet.
You are going to crash, and crash hard at some point.
Yes, the armour will only limit the biomechanical damage to some degree, but in my experience wearing good armour changes the way you fall (because you can) and prevents many abrasions and impalement on sharp stuff. It can also make the difference between sliding in a crash and coming to a sudden stop - its not the fall that hurts, its the rapid deacceleration that causes the damage!
In my old shop in Surrey (UK), we used to sell a lot of body armour and had regular customers who were stuntmen from the movie industry working on local productions like Harry Potter and Pirates of Carribean. Very common choice was the 661 upper body jacket and 661 knee / shin guards, both of which would fit under most costumes worn during filming.
These guys knew their stuff about falling, taking measured risks and choosing protective equipment for stunts. They were blown away by some of the photos and videos I'd show them of riders sending huge stunts only wearing a piss-pot helmet.
Body armour can and does work, and can give rider a confidence to develop their skill base whilst doing what is practically possible to reduce risks. But it cannot eliminate risk.
I was so unfortunatey to fell into this fashion and not wear any back protection, I broke 3 vertebras in '12 because of this.... Since then even if I ride dh on a small choco-cup, or in the park, I wear that f*cking back protector.. and also switched to carbon helmets just in case...
In my opinion, a lot of riders should sit down, and think about they life, will thise few grams, or a small drawback in comfort worth the "prize" of a lot of backpain in the entire life, or other consequences from crashes...
Ride safely!
The subject of protection is filled with many conscious and subconscious fears causing the rise of high emotions, therefore people go nuts when discussing it, giving weird arguments, often getting on high horse, holding their position. I remember myself thinking of people commuting to work without helmet as immoral because I thought they are giving bad example to kids. I don't even want to mention how much hate and anger I used to feel for people not wearing helmet in skateparks or on Dirt jumps. I'm fine now, i sitll feel such bloke is straight stupid and short sighted but I am flatter on it. For that reason I think it is best not to discuss it at all, as the first comment suggests, it is hard to find a topic filled with more irrational behaviour and decision taking. It may also be due to paradox that riding a mountain bike at high speeds, doing big jumps, going warp speed by gigantic rocks, on hardly walkable crazy steeps is a highly irrational activity and attempt of bringing any factual sense to it is a lost case?
Personally I ride with as much protection on as poss, in my opinion comfort/fashion is secondary to saftey. It doesn't make me think I'm superman or a better rider than I am, I just do what I can do.
Slowly progressing to bigger and better, but only when I feel I have necessary skill / mind set.
At 35 I know I don't bounce very much anymore and injuries tend to be worse and take longer to recover from so I just try and keep it real, have a laugh and generally enjoy myself :-) but I have no aspirations of being the next Steve Peat or other such legend of the sport.
For the (generally younger than me) guys that are pushing boundries as well as skill set and have the ambition to genuinely be a contender are being incredible short sighted following fashion. If it all goes tit's up and you do have a major crash they could be destroying that dream of topping the podium at the worlds or whatever aspiration they may have.
Comfort and fashion should be at the back of their minds.
No one has to agree but that's my two penith :-)
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I just see as much bodily protection (as possible) as a necessary evil, an evil that could well save life and/or limb.
This is the kind of stunt I rode when I was doing extreme free ride. You may understand why I chose to wear armour. Previous to me sticking this stunt, the previous 5 riders were taken to hospital due to choppy run in and very short landing!
www.pinkbike.com/photo/342965
In a word LEGEND!
Bigger nuts than me, where is that?
Ultimately I guess it does come down to personal preferences, perceptions, and a brief 'risk-cost-benefit analysis'.
Cheers for the props.
The stunt was the 'monster step down' at Woburn Sands bike park near Bletchley. It was taken down after a while because it was kinda sketchey and was causing accidents.
You can see the video here www.pinkbike.com/video/109268
yeah, the landing was the problem. You had to about 20 feet to touch down and then steer immediate right or you went straight on into a pond full of mud and weed.
In the video I am so stoked I landed that I punch the air after turning around the pond and slid sideways dropping the bike and managed to land running on my feet - you see this at the end of the video!
Woburn was very well built, but some of the stunts were constricted by the limited amount of space on offer across the site, and close proximity of trees. We did the best that we could!
you can see some of it in this video: www.pinkbike.com/video/112314
Pretty much describes anyone who rides park during warm weather..
That might just be me
Thank you Dainese for saving my ass
I always wear a full face helmet, neck brace and knee pads when riding DH. I will wear full armor, which adds body, spine, arms, carbon plated gloves, padded shorts and shins on days where I will ride over big rocks or go off bigger jumps.
Trail riding, I have g-forms for descending. I will wear the knees every time, the fore arms when I'm going over a certain comfort level. I will pack a full face and neck brace when it's even more than that.
Everyvtime I've bruised or fractured ribs, I was never wearing my body protector, which is why I wear it more now than years before.
I'm still on the fence about neck protectors.... I can visualize the crunch/compacting benefits, but I can also see the leveraging/hinging downfalls as well. Plus, I've tried three different brands and they all seemed to get in my way.
I learned long ago, I crash far too hard and far too often to let fashion trump function. Several concussions later, I'm happy to still be able to ride at all.
I've had a few mtb falls this year, and found when its an over-the-bars job, i've gained a few scratches to my helmet.. I'd hate to see what would happen without one!
These days I ear my g-form elbow pads for anything beyond standard XC. I have no excuse NOT to wear them. They are light weight, low profile. If I'm wearing a 3/4 or long sleeve jersey, you can't even tell they are there. They do a great job at stopping abrasion and reasonable job of minimizing impact.
Helmet, eyewear, elbow pads.
Short form: wear what you are comfortable in, I ride better and faster in a spine plate, neck brace and full face compared to just full face, others ride slower. Wear what is right for you, just always wear a helmet.
I figure it'll just thin out the gene pool a little.
If your so self conscious about what you look like that you choose not to wear protective gear, mountain biking could do without you.
Can't speak for everyone and each to their own but I can safely say I believe my armour had saved me from more serious injury quite a few times. Elbows and knees are important joints and even the smoothest, safest trails you can think of have the odd rock or root where, if you landed on it, you'd be in potentially serious trouble. The trouble I'd get from the missus would bit be worth it :-)
Is it rocky, rooty, or whatever similiar with it.
Is it wet, muddy, or not.
I'm not that kind of rider who just ride a track without knowing the track condition first.
To make it simple, i won't ride until i know the track chracteristic.
I have my own reason.
It's such painful memory of mine.
The protections mostly i use are neck brace, knee, full body armor, full face helmet,padded shorts, gloves, and goggle.
But, for an enduro ride, i just change the full face helmet, with my half-shell helmet + mouth guard.
Eyewear, always, but that's just because the wind makes me cry like a baby
So now I wear a ripstop Jersey and jacket for my arms, half shell helmet,glasses,hard shell knees and always gloves.the knees are so Uncomfy but it's worth it when you stop and think about what we actually do. I need my body in one piece for work and if my riding gets an more aggressive I'm getting a full face and goggles and soft elbows.
I'd still like to be able to ride my bike after crashing into a rocky thorny ditch at 30kph+
Protect yourself or wreck yourself- whatever the confidence level.shit happens
Does anyone have any suggestions for core protection? I really enjoyed the lift riding I did last summer and some of the shuttling I did. I'd like to add in some core protection. The 661 fit ok, but I'd like something slimmer. The raceface base jersey with the 3do stuff looks promising, but all the reviews I've read the shoulders don't really stay in place all that much.
But as the years have gone on, my riding progressed, the more confident I've got, the less armour I've used.
I always was a sucker for the 6661 full jacket etc, but have raced DH with just knees, and an oneal anger st jacket, (vest armour) and that's even after suffering some shitty injurys.
The way I see it with pros and the like, (not that I'm one!) but the more confident you are, the further away from your mind lays the risk, and if thats THAT far away, why would you even think of wearing any ! ?
You dress up like robocop going to a fancy dress party, you know someone's gona ask what you had for dinner (they fed him wet poo in a cup poor sod)
You go riding with tons of plastic crap strapped to your body.. Why ? Because your gona fall off !
You DONT strap any (or much) plastic crap to try body. Why ? Because your going to ride flat out and make more roost than poor old robocop dressed up like a chicken !
Simple test, if you fall over with knee pads on you're gonna aim for the knee pads. So they take the impact....
But
If you have no kneepads.. You will aim to save your knees
You will learn to fall better, to hit the ground with less impact to important areas of the body. To roll out of crashes. Like in judo, the first thing you're taught is how to hit the ground an roll out of the impact
This is how as a young bmx'er I learnt how to crash. In bmx freestyle, street an DJ I crashed A LOT! It's part of the learning process
Now I'm a believer that pads are good for ebrasion injuries, cuts some bruising but, NO pads will protect against ligament damage or broken bones
Which I why I think its important to learn to crash well
Now when it comes to MTB we ride faster and crashes can be unforseen like a wheel washing out an down we go with no warning sometimes unable to prepare for impact so we're gonna get hurt regardless of pads or not
Something mentioned in the article was DH racers wearing very little protection
Here's my theory on that in regards for dressing for the ride an not the crash
DH'ers want to win, they don't want to crash. So layering up in body armour and preparing for a crash is just that
Prepairing for a crash
Not a win
Now for my own personal riding ,I'm not silly. I wear a helmet, eye protection, gloves ,knee pads an a neck brace appropriate to the bike I'm riding be it 4X, DH, trail or XC training
(I'm trying to find a spine protector that I feel comfortable in but, after trying two I can't find one that works well with a neck brace)
BUT
I will admit I wear very little protection. I don't like bulky body armour or hardshell knees because I feel stiff an heavy. Less able to move and flow and therefore more likely to crash
Hence
Dress for the ride, NOT the crash
An supposedly..... Chicks dig scars????
Yes, we need Enduro specific pants.
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@sino428 get better grips , i suggest silicones
Defense gear? Half-shell dirt helmet (cause its really help when you do tricks - you see all), normal knees (under the jeans - for more defense and to not cling parts of bike), normal shin guard, ankle braces, tough,but not DH shoes. I use this, and most of PRO-riders,that we have seen - too.Maybe gloves and elbows, its choice of everyone.