SPY SHOTS: New Ibis Enduro Racer Debuts at La Thuile EWS

Jul 12, 2014 at 12:53
by Richard Cunningham  
Prototype Ibis 27.5 enduro bike 2015
  No clean side shot was available to measure the frame geometry of the Ibis Prototype, but we speculate that its angles will be close to the already sharp handling HDR 650 that the team was using. From this view, it is apparent that the seat tube has been shifted forward of the bottom bracket.


Ibis is tight lipped over the exact numbers, but these photos, captured of Anne Caroline’s race bike by an undercover PB detective at the Enduro World Series race in La Thuile, are proof that the California-based brand has a new, longer-travel carbon racer nearing production, The news is that the bike has a longer cockpit and massive amounts of mud and tire clearance for its dedicated, 27.5-inch wheels. Rear travel is pegged at 150-millimeters - 20-millimeters up from the team's 130-millimeter-travel HDRs. The rear linkage has been completely reconfigured. The shorter-looking rockers of its dw-Link suspension are tucked behind the seat tube, which appears to have been moved forward, ahead of the bottom bracket to gain clearance for the rear wheel. The shock is driven by a yoke arrangement, similar to the configuration used on Specialized, Pivot, and Lapierre's enduro-specific bikes. The new frame also has internal cable routing, and the top and down tubes appear to be larger than the HDR's, as witnessed by decidedly smaller proportions of the shock strut. While it would be hard to believe that Ibis's new race bike would not accept a 160-millimeter-stroke fork, Anne Caroline's BOS-suspended proto appears to be running a 150-millimeter travel slider. It seemed to suit her, as she is the overall leader going into day two.



Stage three was a massive shake up today. Anne Caroline Chausson rode her new Ibis with vigor and took the overall eight seconds and change up on second place Ravenel.
  Anne Caro took the new Ibis to the top of the leader board on day one at La Thuile EWS. The entire team is racing the new bike this weekend.


Prototype Ibis 27.5 enduro bike 2015
  An up-close look at the reconfigured suspension shows the yoke shock-driver and new rocker design. The Pivot Mach 6 uses a similar arrangement. Anne Caro runs a BOS Kirk shock.


Prototype Ibis 27.5 enduro bike 2015
  We expect the Gorilla tape that covers the cable outlets on the Ibis's down tube will be replaced with a carbon bash guard. Note the width of the down tube and the generous tire clearance around the seat stays.


Ibis HDR 2014
  We brought you some photos of the Ibis HDR to use for comparison. The swingarm is completely different, and the upper linkage is forward of the seat tube centerline, without the yoke shock driver. The previous HDR was designed around Ibis's 26-inch-wheel HD chassis and modified with a new swingarm to accept larger 27.5-inch wheels. The new chassis is a ground-up design, based on mid-sized wheels.


Prototype Ibis 27.5 enduro bike 2015
  Anne Caro's new Ibis seems to be helping to retrieve her favorite number. She is one of the few pro racers, male or female, who has no problem handling the weight and pressure of the number one plate.


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172 Comments
  • 74 7
 Looks like the lovechild of a Stumpjumper and a Mojo. Pretty sweet actually!
  • 64 3
 it looks more like a specialized enduro and the hdr combined
  • 101 5
 It's the Ibis Endurojumper!
  • 6 105
flag wakaba (Jul 12, 2014 at 14:42) (Below Threshold)
 Actually the cheap plasticcopy of a Foes Hydro frame with static defects, crappy dampers and lack of suspension travel. Nothing there.
  • 21 15
 Looks like every other bike around here, two wheels, two brakes, saddle, fork and something that moves when you hit something with you rear wheel. You want to reinvent the wheel?
  • 5 4
 It looks like a bike that functions first - or just one with function, first.
  • 10 1
 Wakaba.......... Wtf? You blind?
  • 4 63
flag wakaba (Jul 12, 2014 at 16:54) (Below Threshold)
 @omid: No, its a defective design speced with crap parts. It's winged and I don't like it. The bike I cited works very well. This one, however, will not.
  • 39 2
 Wakaba, the hydro is a drastically different bike from any bike that ibis has ever produced. Apples and motherf*cking oranges. Lemme guess, you're some type of self-made engineer? Go compare suspension kinematics curves, leverage ratios, bike geometries and stress tests for both frames then you can talk. I'm not defending the ibis frame so much as I am calling you on your shit.
  • 8 1
 Looks just like my black Mach 6. So it will be a super stiff kick ass DW bike like the Pivot.
  • 3 2
 Sweet freakn name Endurojumper, for the win!
  • 6 0
 @wakaba, @omidtehhun is right! This Ibis frame is COMPLETELY different from the Hydro. It looks to me like wakaba is just trollin'
  • 12 7
 Except the foes hydro is a heavy primitive piece of shit. Hence why nobody rides them Smile
  • 3 45
flag wakaba (Jul 12, 2014 at 21:53) (Below Threshold)
 @mtbguy: You know nothing. Go and play little league.
  • 10 2
 I'll go ride my nicer and lighter race bike. Time to let go of the past. Your comments on this have shown your lack of education and understanding of the bike industry kiddo.
  • 7 0
 Smh @wakaba you're 47 go do something......
  • 3 0
 lol so much hate wakaba. relax a bit
  • 4 0
 Paint it black and slap some Bos in, winner every time Smile . It looks the tits
  • 4 0
 @wakaba. How can it be a copy of the Hydro when they are both designed for completely different disciplines? It's clear you fan boy Foes but the Ibis is COMPLETELY different to the Hydro. One being that it looks good and another being it weighs less than a tonne.
  • 2 0
 cmon guys, just because we are spoiled with even better bikes doenst mean the Hydro is a bad bike!
  • 2 1
 OMG its an absolutely delicious looking frame, im getting one, so glad I held off buying a new bike. Im gonna cash in all my stokens and buy it as soon as it comes out, soon I hope. As long as its good that is........
  • 1 0
 plz tell me more about these stokens and how you can buy bikes with them lol (how awesome would that be? Big Grin )
  • 3 1
 @Mt bguy87 :
This Ibis looks great and well designed, totally agree.
Please do not say that Foes Hydro is a primitive piece of shit. You probably never rode one of them, or at least with an appropriate supension setup...
I rode an Hydro after good experiences on Banshee Legend, Morewood Izimu, Makulu, Kona's etc. and I can swear that the Hydro is the most versatile and nervous DH that I owned.
I regret, but the only primitive thing is you comment.
Sorry for trolling the comments on Ibis...
  • 2 1
 lol. They defo need to run total internal cable routing though so there are no awkward cables on the top or down tube. Their cable routing on past bikes have been awful. It makes for a cleaner looking bike too and if its executed correctly there should be no problem running the cables through the frame. And a large frame should have at least a 620mm TT at the very least, so you can run a short stem......... oh and 1200mm barsWink
  • 2 1
 that waka guy... i was on fb and i saw this by pinkbike entered and already bad coments about an enduro bike wich looked pretty awesome to me as in the vertend of freeride but doesnt matter... now follow me as i am talking... most of the riders who talk badly about something like a bike or bike components that doesnt even make a structural coment about somthing or someone or something else most of the time tend to not own a bike or ride a bike as most of us that think that its cool or maybe even both... and i took a peek on his page... and he only had pics of 2 bikes... no pictures of riding... as i was guessing...

HE MUST RIDE LIKE THIS

ep1.pinkbike.org/p4pb5950380/p4pb5950380.jpg

so we can say to him... WHY DONT YOU WILL PLAY A LITTLE LEAGUE?
  • 4 0
 A bitch is a bitch is a bitch is a bitch -ice cube
  • 1 0
 @ Waka Bos and Mavic are crap now? What??!! You mad bro?
  • 3 0
 I just hope that it will have a gown man tt lenght.
  • 2 0
 so many people on the specialized/mojo hybrid vibe! glad im not alone!
  • 4 0
 Its an s-works mojuro
  • 1 7
flag wakaba (Jul 15, 2014 at 14:36) (Below Threshold)
 @zorglub: Pbers drool all over the next crappy iteration of sameness. Few have ridden serious big bikes with tuned suspension. They just don't know that going up is tedious only and just the weekend extension of their jobs. Down is the way to go, peppered with booze, salted with drugs, hard sex, loud music and massive rockgardens.
  • 1 0
 I guess a TR450 with suspension tuned to my riding style from push'd isn't a very good set up. Thanks for the advice all mighty bike knowledge expert. I'm sure in all my years as a bike mechanic I have never realized that suspension needs to be tuned hahahaha
  • 1 7
flag wakaba (Jul 16, 2014 at 13:46) (Below Threshold)
 Does not take much to fix a bike, pal - and it does not make you a suspension expert. Very few engineers in the bike industry actually know something about it. Knolly, Foes, Intense come to mind. The rest are just copy-paste Taiwan construction offices and your TR is just that. EnduroAm is a subset of function and not a functional system. That makes it crap. Can as well ride a hardtail. Fgs - lighten up.
  • 3 0
 Intense is a vpp which is exactly what sanata Cruz uses. Nothing new or special. They blow through bearings. Foes is great for riding old school heavy bikes. They lack anything that shows improvement. Knolly uses a spin off of fsr. You are a complete idiot who is talking out of your ass. You probably don't even know how to determine your spring rate properly. You are the pink bike forum guy. Read it on a forum so you are an expert hahaha oh and if you look all foes is doing with the hydro is a single pivot with a power link to provide a 2.3:1 leverage ratio. Nothing new or amazing. They are the same as every other company just that they don't get even close to the money coming in as other companies hence why they don't sponser any winning racers hahaha you need to go back to the forums little kid
  • 1 3
 www.vitalmtb.com/community/wakaba123,22571/setup,20691
It's beyond anything you have ever ridden. You know nothing.
  • 1 0
 you know what? what you have is the best... the rest is just junk... keep it that way you will go far... yes i see alot of guys riding those on red bull rampage and dh world cups...
  • 3 0
 Wakaba- I doubt your mechanical, engineering and riding skills. You being an unrepentant a*shole? No doubt there.
  • 1 0
 Riding an open bath 8 lb fork on a heavy frame that is just single pivot. Nothing special. You are just some kid who thinks you know bike geometries and suspension designs haha typical beginner rider there kid
  • 1 5
flag wakaba (Jul 17, 2014 at 2:10) (Below Threshold)
 Mtbg 87: You have no clue parkboy. I do this since before you were born. Everything is right with a true single pivot. This baby runs 140lb spring and low pressure damper. I have about 300% more adjustability in the rearsus than your TR and almost no wear in the shock. The front end is spectacular. Weight is about 20kg. Only a large gambler, M9 and Turner are par xcept when it comes to maintenance. Get a clue and educate yourself.
  • 1 0
 Park boy? Hahaha kid the foes is heavy as hell. I can change my entire geometry on my frame and the tr runs a single pivot design as well you retard. You know nothing about setting.up your shit hahaha
  • 2 0
 Well so much for people riding bikes of their choice....I guess we should all hop on yur 50lb clunker regardless of riding preference/style. Thanks for the enlightenment and lemme know when you make it to the WC circuit/make some friends... dickwad.
  • 1 5
flag wakaba (Jul 17, 2014 at 3:30) (Below Threshold)
 Parkboy, brought your sidekick omid along? Ok Beavis still no clue.
  • 1 0
 Nosepickin-ass-scratchin-half-assed troll. Try harder next time, you might win a prize!
  • 1 0
 He just has no clue what a quality performance bike feels like. He has only been riding bikes for a few years and still believes USA made frames are the best in the world hahaha
  • 1 4
 @mtb: "quality performance bike"? You really have no idea, ridiculous poser.
  • 1 0
 You have a week to go pro the biggest sender you can muster....
  • 1 0
 Yes wakaba. Lets see if you can live up to your pathetic egotism.
  • 1 0
 for him to be a full retard is just missing handicap parking lot sticker
  • 1 0
 He rides an american made bike he must be fast hahaha he rides an obsolete hunk. The foes handle like a slug and they are heavy. There's a reason I got rid of mine 2 months after having it haha needed something more nimble and versatile. Thing pedals like garbage
  • 1 3
 Mtbguy: Pedaling - you are seriously delusional, parkboy. It's called downhill. You have no clue. Go and play in your sandbox.
  • 1 0
 Its called racing. You know where you go fast. Go ride your slow trails there wannabe. Better stick your slow ass to beginner trails. Don't want you to get scared over going fast there little kid
  • 2 0
 Wait I can't even say your trails. Better get someone to shuttle you up others built trails there princess. Punks like you don't even dig trail.
  • 1 0
 God, why did I ever reply to a top comment on pinkbike. Nobody gives a shit anymore guys
  • 3 0
 This!!^ it's gettin worse than "looks like a session" or 26 for life - grow up lads and ffs wakaba is 40 odd years old he ain't a kid
  • 2 2
 Big Grin
  • 27 0
 You can also see the scratched out Maxxis logos lol
  • 44 1
 HAHA^^^ Maxxis and Schwalbe tires should be sold with black felt-tip pens at the races.
  • 6 0
 tire sponsorship can be really good if you are backed by a company with a good product range. Bad if your sponsor has little to choose from.
  • 4 0
 see doing that to them actually draws more attention, I would have paid no mind to it unless they had just MADE me look at them and be like "Teehee, anne caro 'secretly' runs maxxis" instead of paying no mind to whatever tires they are.

it also may draw attention to the fact that the tires she is sponsored to ride are bad/limited, hence doing the opposite of what having her ride them is supposed to do.
  • 4 0
 Front tire looks michelin
  • 4 0
 I think she is running those just because of mavic's lack of a tire that sheds the really sticky mud that they are riding in, I wouldn't say their selection is too limited...
  • 3 0
 I assume this has to do with the fact that Mavic is getting into the tire business now. Goes to show, its hard to beat the top dogs.
  • 2 1
 Yep, front tire is a Michelin. WildGrip'r 2, 2.35 Reinforced probably. Very good tire though.
  • 4 0
 People should stop being so racist about tires and think that Maxxis is the only one. Michelin are amazing tires...
  • 12 0
 Racist about tires??? I ONLY run black tires. And I'm white. All of my white friends do the same.
  • 4 1
 It is common in the WC DH to run tires that are not sponsor's products when conditions are such that there is not other tire that will win the day. If one pays close attention to the treads in the race-coverage images, you'll see a lot of Schwalbe Muddy Mary tires on a given day, spikes are often "borrowed" from other makers too. If the hot patches are inked over, it's a sure bet that it's a non-sponsored option. If you are racing to win, you need to make hard and fast decisions. The pressure created by racers demanding non-sponsored options of any product forced the sponsor to create better stuff - and in a hurry.
  • 2 0
 So you hatin' on white tyres now?
  • 2 0
 This happens ALL THE TIME in road racing, to the point where most are now even re-badged with sponsors logos (it's a lot less obvious, obviously!)

Not surprised at all to see it happening in mountain biking too.
  • 2 0
 This has been going on for many, many years in mtb racing
  • 23 1
 It looks so sexy...
  • 1 5
flag nouser (Jul 13, 2014 at 6:30) (Below Threshold)
 yeah, man. finally an ibis that looks good.
  • 1 0
 but does it top the foxy carbon? www.pinkbike.com/photo/10869981
  • 10 3
 New drinking game......shot of tequila for every time the word "Enduro" is mentioned in a news headline caption. You'll be pi55ed in no time flat.
  • 18 0
 Naw, you'd die.
  • 1 0
 Actually "enduro" is only written 3 times, if you count the title.
  • 1 0
 OK now do the front page.
  • 1 0
 17 times.
  • 2 0
 That's a fair amount of tequila.
  • 1 0
 17 shots is enough to not even know the diference between enduro and xc to who doesnt even ride a bike... i only drank a quarter botle of whisky and i dont know the diference ... and i ride a bike ... so... let me just take a guess... enduro its like xc but more agressive... atention i like enduro bikes... i have a haro x7 its almost like the separation between enduro and freeride... it is so light that i do enduro not in competitions...
  • 8 0
 I think my taste in bikes is like my taste in women - I always want the ones I can never afford.
  • 1 0
 lolz same here... but we can at least take a peek loool
  • 8 0
 Ibis finally run cables inside of frame tubes! looks very clean.
  • 2 0
 but you know inside it isnt ...
  • 6 0
 So much better then the old one, in terms of looks at least...
  • 5 1
 www.pedal.com.br/shimano-introduz-no-mercado-sapatilha-e-mochila-para-enduro_texto8353.html

Thats a nice new product...
Shimano new enduro shoes
  • 2 0
 Spring 2015..wonder what msrp will be.
  • 1 0
 te amo meu amor
  • 1 0
 que viadagem é essa mermao xD
  • 4 0
 Lets just hope they follow the new trend of starting the marketing machine only after bikes are in stock...ala intense, santa cruz,...etc
  • 6 0
 Dear Ibis, any chance you might make an actual XL for XL people this time?
  • 1 0
 As I said in previous posts. If it weren't for the lack of decent geo for big guys I would have a stable of Ibis bikes.
XL with 26" TT and I am all in.
  • 1 0
 Come on, everybody knows /6" is dead. Oh sorry Wink
  • 1 0
 26". Phone keyboard vs thick fingers...
  • 3 0
 she's a single ring only rig. Like the new nomad, to keep the chain stay's short on a 27.5", the new lower link lives where the front mech would.
  • 2 0
 I figured most 2015 bikes would be set up to at least allow the new shimano fd, which now allows for shorter cs designs. But, many 2015 frames designed well before shimano released said drivetrain. Well c
  • 2 0
 Per Hans from Ibis on MTBR, threaded bottom bracket, capacity for water bottle, and multiple chain ring capacity. No other details shared.
  • 1 0
 katmai - link to post of that pretty please?
  • 4 0
 forums.mtbr.com/ibis/acc-running-prototype-920827-5.html#post11306408 - Look on this page.
  • 1 0
 wow. interesting.. it sure looks cramped for space where the mech would be.
Maybe that little silver bit that's 11:00 from the pivot in this picture is a direct mount location?
www.pinkbike.com/photo/11169397
  • 1 0
 Yeah, I'd really like to see how a frt der fits that close to the pivot. katmai - thanks for the link, props given.
  • 7 3
 Looks a lot like the Spec Enduro now. Which is a good thing.
  • 2 9
flag pdxkid (Jul 12, 2014 at 19:00) (Below Threshold)
 There is clearly not a pivot by the rear axle. Does not look like a Spec.
  • 1 0
 Lawsuit imminent.
  • 2 1
 @pdxkid. Look at the front triangle....
  • 4 2
 Erm, not - actually. Spez top tube continues to join the seat tube, so that the top tube almost looks as if it has an X in it.

Actually, no - you're right. This looks NOTHING like the old Ibis. I mean, the shock connecting to a cross brace? No ways that was on the old one... Pfft
  • 2 3
 www.sicklines.com/gallery/data/1046/2013-enduro-sworks-26-specialized.jpg
  • 4 3
 DW vs FSR... Yeah. They're totally the same bike
  • 1 0
 No one said they were the same bike. Calm the F down dude.
  • 1 0
 Nobody said they were the same. But the front triangle bracing looks like the Enduro front triangle.
  • 2 2
 I was taking the piss, Seraph. Point is that the front triangle bracing looks like a refined version of the previous Mojo. All the previous mojos had one. The Spaz has completely different bracing - the only way that it could conceivably look the same is if you took that single brace in isolation, and looked at the way it is formed - and even then you'd be wrong, cos the mounting hardware is recessed into the brace on the Spaz, whereas here it's completely external to the brace. Yes, it's more sculpted than the previous Ibis. But the front triangle is definitely a Mojo front triangle - just a bit more sculpted, and with the seatpost more forward of the BB.
  • 2 0
 Sure you were. That's why you posted 3 separate times. Because you were joking.
  • 1 1
 Well, "taking the piss" normally refers to being sarcastic. Not joking around, just making fun of something due to its hilarity.
  • 3 0
 I got a new enduro but this things got way crazy angles...prob gonna be siiiick!
  • 3 0
 Maybe it took them so long to release the Ripley b/c they were secretly working on this...
  • 4 0
 All layin' down on her side 'n' stuff, you know you want it!
  • 2 0
 Mesohorny!
  • 5 1
 Outstanding!
  • 3 0
 A bunch of 26 mojo hd for sale soon ....
  • 1 0
 I guess you're like everyone else who thinks a new bike is better/faster than an already sick bike. 26" HD is capable in every way imaginable.
  • 1 0
 I'm totally with you Mojoronnie ... miracles of marketing are still joking the masses ... and smart people will do great affairs on buying great 26 bikes that market wants make believe are obsolete ....
  • 4 0
 DH bike now please!
  • 1 0
 How come that down tube design with a sharp bend next to the bb is so common these days? Bottle cage clearance? Just aesthetics (personally not a fan of it)?
  • 2 0
 Wow. You mention another MTB site and your comment gets deleted. Pretty insecure of you Pinkbike.
  • 1 0
 curious routing for the rear mech cable. Gotta wonder if the action of the rear triangle will cause significant cable rub on the seat tube.
  • 2 0
 Is it still called a "LOPES LINK"?
  • 5 0
 Maybe that's why they changed it to the Caro-yokey
  • 2 0
 Hopefully it has at least 150mm of travel and not 130mm
  • 3 3
 looks like just any other ibis. Ibis is becoming like more like ellsworth, unchanging design through the years. Still, if it works, why change it right? Razz
  • 1 0
 The revamp of the Mojo looks nice! I'm glad Ibis is still at it after Lopes ditched them for the Tracer.
  • 1 0
 Those tyre valves look super long
  • 1 0
 They look like normal Mavic UST valves to me.
  • 1 0
 I roll a Pivot Mach 6.. The new linkage looks almost identical...
  • 2 0
 It's almost as if the same suspension designer is behind both
  • 1 0
 Awesome Ripley meets Hdr. like it
  • 2 1
 Glad i didn't just buy a mojo now thats for sure!
  • 1 0
 Ya..imagine if you bought a 2014 carbon force gt @$7k. 2015 lineup shows force x complete (w/btr build) $4500.
  • 6 5
 I like the old one better
  • 13 0
 Most people fall into one of two categories: The ones that like the old stuff better, and the other ones that like the new stuff...
  • 12 0
 Don't forget those who just hate EVERYTHING lol
  • 13 0
 That's the under 16 crowd here on PB. . . . .
  • 13 0
 Then pinkbike seems to have more under 16s than Ian Watkins laptop!
  • 1 6
flag lookoutkd14 (Jul 12, 2014 at 21:04) (Below Threshold)
 Lol under 16 Croud lolololol
  • 1 0
 Very Stealth looking! Nice!
  • 1 0
 Looks down to business, I'm in
  • 2 1
 oooh look a new enduro bike wankwankwank
  • 2 1
 I shred so much gnar u cannot even comprehend
  • 1 0
 I don't just shred the gnar.... I'm so fast it's like I'm shell boarding down a hill with Sandy EXTREME
  • 3 0
 I sh*t more gnar during my evening dump than you could ever comprehend.
  • 2 0
 Evening dump!? Always take care of your paperwork in the morning!
  • 2 0
 That looks stunning!
  • 1 0
 A spyshoot on a international race ?
  • 1 1
 what travel on the Kirk shock?
  • 4 3
 The only info we have is that the shock has a longer stroke than the HDR's.
  • 1 2
 i don't know much about this particular kind of suspension but it looks like efficient travel usage comparing to vintage designs with long shock tube and big suspension geometry deformation
  • 1 0
 For looks that is Wink
  • 1 0
 Take my money
  • 1 0
 looks amazing to me.
  • 2 3
 Specialized Enduro just got a small sister. Looks great, though.
  • 1 2
 something similar to a Banshee KS link?
  • 1 0
 Look-a-like
  • 1 0
 @shutter
Get it straight. It's more like the KS Link is similar to DW-Link. You made the exact same comment on Vital MTB. Are you on some sort of campaign?

DW-Link was introduced 7-8 years before Banshee made a short link bike. On top of that, Banshee connects the rear triangle directly to the shock, unlike this implementation of the DW-Link. If anything Banshee copied Ibis' old design.

Banshee's new bikes are still sweet rides though.
  • 1 0
 www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/PITBITS-2014-Enduro-World-Series-La-Thuile,7728/Prototype-Ibis-27-5-Bike,78989/sspomer,2
  • 1 0
 enduro-mtb.com/en/spotted-at-la-thuile-new-ibis-prototype
  • 1 0
 Correction. I meant 7-8 before Banshee made the KS-Link. Still, DW was out years before Banshee's old short link bikes.
  • 5 7
 So what part makes it enduro then?
  • 19 2
 The goggles on the rider
  • 2 0
 Im crying laughing right now, thanks for that!
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