Stemtee-Nukeproof's Custom DH Shock

Jun 9, 2016 at 10:01
by stemtee  
For many companies, the World Cup DH race circuit serves as an outdoor test lab, the perfect opportunity to try out products that may or may not make it into production. The Stemtee-Nukeproof team recently sent in the details of a new shock they've been developing, one that includes a remote lockout, a feature not normally seen in the downhill world. The oversized reservoir is also notable, a design feature intended to counteract the excessive heat buildup that can occur during long runs. More details are included in the press release below, and we'll be keeping an eye on the shock's development as the season progresses. - Mike Kazimer


Press Release

Stemtee-Nukeproof s custom rear shock with remote lockout on Dylan Levesque s Pulse race bike. By the way it s not the only custom part Stemtee are working on...

Following a solid top-40 result for Stemtee-Nukeproof’s Dylan Levesque at the Fort William World Cup, and heading into this weekend’s Leogang race, we take a quick look at the custom rear shock Dylan has been running on his Pulse.

A point of much interest around the pits last weekend at Fort William was the fully custom rear shock engineered at Stemtee-Nukeproof’s base near Annecy, France. Dylan has been using this and other prototype versions of the shock for test sessions through winter and recently at several race outings. The shock certainly looks the part, and now its functionality has been confirmed with his great placing in the race.

Designed and built at a facility that also manufactures custom MotoGP parts and chassis, Précision Aravis – team sponsor and HQ – have worked relentlessly in their spare time to machine a shock body with greater oil flow than any other DH shock available, and one with a unique feature in its lock-out.

That remote lockout.

Why build your own?
For a rider of Dylan’s calibre, being put to the test on punishing World Cup tracks, team owner and mechanic Hugues decided that without direct factory support from a major suspension manufacturer, the best way to stay true to this mentality was to manufacture his own damper in-house. The added bonus being that he could then experiment with one or two ideas that no one else is currently working on.

Following many long nights and lost weekends of hard graft, plus several stages of prototyping and testing, the latest version of Stemtee-Nukeproof’s damper is at a level both Hugues and Dylan are confident can better any offering currently available for purchase.

Why so big?
Hugues firmly believes that where oil flow and heat dissipation count, size does matter. Having gone through the prototyping stages during winter, a satisfactory balance between weight and temperature management has been met. With test sessions on some of the most punishing tracks in Europe, and now three successful race outings (including a win in Metabief), it’s clear the shock is performing.

Bushing.

What does it do others don’t?
You have probably noticed the cable entering the shock body. This is a remote shock lock-out activated by a bar-mounted lever, much like a gear shifter. For tracks with sprinting sections this can be a huge advantage. The system is intuitive and easy to use; Dylan was comfortable locking-out between each jump on the lower Motorway section of Fort William.

Can I buy one?
We should note that this product is not aiming for a commercial future. Stemtee-Nukeproof’s ethos is to provide the utmost support for its riders and to cut no corners in the search for the fastest bike, so this is a custom product that will be manufactured only in small numbers for team riders.

The Stemtee-Nukeproof team is now preparing for this weekend’s race in Leogang, Austria, Round 4 of the 2016 DH World Cup. Dylan is looking to build on his solid results at Lourdes and Fort William, and the team will continue to perfect its setup during this, its test season.

Dylan bringing it home to a solid top-40 in his first outing at the Fort William World Cup.

About Stemtee-Nukeproof
With an upbringing on two wheels and deep experience riding and racing motocross, the factory-style setup of Stemtee-Nukeproof appealed to Levesque from the very start. Mechanic and team owner Hugues’ vast knowledge of the mechanical elements of a bike, his experience working with top racers such as Fabien Barel and his desire to ensure the fastest bike possible are the basis of a modest, yet cutting-edge team.


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69 Comments
  • 77 1
 The reservoir is actually just a can of energy drink
  • 17 5
 A shot of concentrate redbull
  • 3 1
 Haha no kidding. Could it get any bigger?
  • 8 0
 NOS. Smile
  • 6 0
 The cable is actually a straw.
  • 1 0
 it's ugly but is it functional?
  • 35 1
 Innovate or die right? Good on them for trying something new instead of just slapping a big name shock on there
  • 20 9
 All these claims that they are the best on the market and are designed radically differnt, this from nitro shox and now this shock. Where is the reviews, comparisons ect. People want to know about the technology and the damper, not "well it has a lockout".
  • 44 2
 Keep in mind that this is just a press release - it's more of a preview of what the company is working on. As soon as we're able to get a closer look and more information, believe me, you'll be able to read all about its inner workings. The same goes for the Nitro Shox - we're still awaiting the arrival of one so we can review its performance.
  • 5 1
 @mikekazimer: awesome can't wait! tup
  • 5 0
 Something tells me that these companies probably want to keep the small (but critical) details close to the chest, especially for something that is designed only for racers. Fox and RockShox release this information willingly because they have most likely secured patents that protect their investments in R+D. An outfit like this and Nitro Shox should probably be a bit more careful...
  • 5 0
 @ibishreddin It's interesting that you say that. Cane Creek brought the concept of a twin tube damper to the MTN bike world. Fox followed suite, however Fast Suspension claimed that they wasted a lot of R&D trying to develope a twin tube damper for the Holy Grail shock and that the single tube design was superior. Push also use a single tube damper design. It's gets even deeper when you bring up Ohlins. The single tube design is generally considered superior in the Motorsports world where Ohlins is a huge player. However when Ohlins made a MTN bike shock, they went for a twin tube design. And then there's Nitro and their Oleo damper... So who the heck knows what this point.
  • 3 0
 @ninjatarian: Agree. I'm starting to think maybe rider skill is a small factor too Wink
  • 2 1
 @mikekazimer: I agree but my only worry is that if bike companies start to make their own suspension, we might see more and more proprietary shocks. Thus leaving us with little or no selection. What do you think?
  • 1 0
 @ninjatarian:

its interesting comparing the suspension needs of Motorsports and Bicycles, especially the rider/vehicle weight ratio and power fluctuation of pedalling

The optimum shock for XC to Enduro pedal cycles may be twin-tube, whilst for motor vehicles a single tube (de carbon type)?

You could class DH bikes as benefiting from the single tube due to very high speed loads
  • 2 0
 @ninjatarian: just to clarify the superior single tube vs twin tube you refer to in motorsports is not the same twin tube being used by cc, ohlins, fox twin tube. The ohlins twin tube is used in motorsports but only in racing applications and nothing you will see on your street driven car because the cost is too high and no one really needs that level of adjustment on a street car.
  • 1 0
 To add to my comment. May want to take a look at what ohlins is on the back of the koenigsegg regera. Look familiar?

youtu.be/yjWzoJdmPeM
  • 1 1
 @richierocket: I think the bike industry had f*cked us enough with proprietary stuff. Can't they just leave shocks alone.
  • 1 0
 you gotta remember though, this is a custom shock. the team doesn't want to release it as they have plans as this being a team exclusive product. they don't wanna bring it out for the team. then post about all of it inner workings for other companies to say hey that's a good idea I'm making that for my team except I'm going to capitalize on that.

it would be cool to know what they put into it, yet dumb for them to post if its going to be a strictly dh team shock that they aren't selling for production. sure as hell somebody will put it into production one day once they figure it out. but still Smile
  • 6 2
 sick! i didnt come here looking for info about the damper and larger reservoir cause who needs that? finally someone gets there wits about them and slaps a lockout on a dh shock. Rockshox and fox better get their team development in order.
  • 1 0
 For the love of God it better come with a blow-off valve! The number of times I've gotten myself into a sticky situation over mouse droppings on a Sunday tootle... let alone Fort Bill WC!
  • 5 0
 'We should note that this product is not aiming for a commercial future.' Sounds like a marketing strategy to release a 'factory works' version next year at some extraordinary price.
  • 3 0
 Next will be a shock that can constantly adjust it's tune to each and every trail feature. With sensors tracking the bike's exact track location and applying the optimal setting. Will there be rules for or against this in the future?
  • 2 0
 @RollinFoSho: lapierre tried this
  • 1 0
 Sounds similar to Fox's "Live Valve Active Suspension System"
www.pinkbike.com/news/exclusive-ride-report-fox-live-valve-active-suspension-system.html
  • 1 0
 Google the Noleen Smart Shock. This was attempted Back in the late 90s. There's nothing new under the sun.
  • 1 0
 That stuff already exists Wink
  • 1 0
 I'm thinking on a World Cup track with sensors or GPS... So that settings could be applied for exact trail features coming up, a bit different to Fox or Lapierre.
  • 1 0
 But if they do sell it it will take off because no one offers a reasonably priced enduro coil shock with a full on downhill ability, (with a convenient remote lockout). It just needs a little more refinement to make it bling and then knowing mountain bikers it will be the next "rad" thing to have too so they probably won't have to try very hard to market it. The only one like that now is made by PUSH (Elevensix Shock) and its expensive AF.
  • 1 0
 Ahhh EXT Storia, but it isn't cheap either. IMO a better shock than the ElevenSix too.
extremeshox.com/en/bikes-mtb
  • 2 0
 Ohlins TTX? About 75% of the cost of the 11/6. No lockout, but LSC can be used, quick twist, though there's no way of doing that in a DH run.
  • 1 0
 Fox Float X2 or DHX2 with 2 position lever...
  • 3 2
 the final straight on a BMX track has a rhythm section to see who has the skills and energy left in the tank and who is willing to hang it out, better to develop the tracks than develop the bikes to accommodate boring flat sections, do that and expect to see more races decided on the pedalling sections and our heroes become like roadies
  • 2 0
 Was wondering when the lockout would happen for PRO LEVEL dh bikes. Every advantage they can get is a bonus. We all use em on Enduro bikes so the tech is there. Cane creek did their climb switch on a coil already.
  • 1 0
 true.....forgot about that one
  • 1 0
 @andyshafer: The only thing with the Cane Creek lockout is it is simply the dampening unit from the AIR CS put on the Coil body, it works because I've watched it being made out of two CC shock at NS Dynamics.
  • 1 0
 I did read somewhere on here a while ago that CC were working on a remote lever for the CS. Still hoping for word on that front...
  • 1 0
 I agree more oil equals more reliable performance . DVO makes the same statement.
As for lock outs? I bought a dual suspension bike not a hard tail. I like mine to stay a full sus even on climbs.
Love the prototype eye candy.
  • 7 4
 Does a DH rig need a lockout for the rear shock? I'm trying to understand the need for this.
  • 10 1
 Def a few WC tracks out there with long(ish) pedal sections... And every 0.0whatever+ second counts....
  • 6 0
 Cairns is one
  • 4 2
 That, and what happens if you forget to unlock it going through the rough stuff or jump sections?
  • 4 0
 What's next, a dropper!!
  • 5 0
 Considering how the last 2 splits of the Fort William World Cup basically separated the winners from the losers, this should come in very handy on any tracks where pedaling efficiency makes or breaks a good result/podium/win.
  • 1 4
 @Christopop: Have you tried a shock with a "pedal" lock ? The new shocks can take big impacts or jumps, and they (normaly) don't send you over the bar. Smile

(I have a slope bike with a Monarch who has this pedal lock. Sometimes I forget to unlock it, and even with 100mm of travel I don't really feel the difference on my local smooth tracks ^^)
  • 2 0
 @sewer-rat: dropper posts have already been used in Petermaritzburg. It stopped when track builders added several jumps on the looooong pedalling section.
  • 1 0
 @Christopop: I would imagine it has a blowoff like most modern lockouts. You're still going to want to release it though.
  • 1 0
 @Christopop: That's what separates a good rider from the rest.
  • 1 1
 Dh turns even more enduro by using XC technology. Lock out is basically just like sticking slicks on a mountain bike...
  • 9 7
 I don't need to see a review, I don't want to sprint on flat sections thanks and that's why my dh bike has a seat ;0)
  • 11 1
 And that's why you aren't racing on the WC, these guys are and need every tenth and hundredth of a second. Wink
  • 1 0
 Amen! If you use the brakes less you don't have to pedal as much...
  • 2 1
 Okay all argument aside why get so hyped up when they directly say they don't plan on selling it
  • 1 0
 where there's money to be made, you can be damn sure companies will renege on prior comments... says the cynic in me.
  • 1 2
 So they press release it, but they aren't planning on selling it.... I can't see much logic here tbh. Like telling people that they have won iPhones, then never giving them the phones, who does that?
  • 2 1
 All kinds of tech PR comes out of race teams of all sorts - auto, boat etc and you can never buy that shit either. It's about selling the team, not product.
  • 1 0
 Lock out schmock out! If it doesn't hop off the bike and give me a back rub while I'm riding im not interested.
  • 3 2
 Perfect for Pietermaritzburg.
  • 1 0
 Sending my pulse back today due to recall/cracking :-(
  • 1 0
 Yeah but does it come in metric?
  • 1 0
 nukeproof stuff is shite.
  • 2 2
 These Nukeproofs are so damn hot
  • 1 0
 Of course size matters
  • 4 3
 We're going backwards.
  • 3 6
 this will not make it to market unless it can be part of a new standard. metric+ even more metric than metric
  • 8 1
 They are not selling it, nor plan to. It's in the article







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