Derek Lahr

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well, me and Radek went and had a second chat with Derek. This is what we came up with.


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flag beerismycopilot (October 24, 2007 at 8:27) (Below Threshold) show comment
holy shhit that weighs only 8lbs!!!
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flag milfhunter (January 18, 2008 at 3:12) (Below Threshold) show comment
It's light because its a carbon frame, stick it on a regular bike and it'll be heavy as feck. When sh1t like this gets as small or as light as a regular drive train, then we'll buy into it. The whole drive train of bikes is very crude, we need sh1t like this, but it needs to be lighter, smaller and easier to fix and setup, you'll need an F1 team to fix this.
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flag dirtrider14 (November 1, 2007 at 20:27) (Below Threshold) show comment
thats pretty damn sweet
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flag ollie-jones (November 2, 2007 at 5:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
thats pretty damn confusin
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flag -aik (November 2, 2007 at 9:06) (Below Threshold) show comment
Jeez, that is awesome. Brilliant stuff.
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flag p3riderforlife (November 2, 2007 at 11:16) (Below Threshold) show comment
thats dope but sooo confusing lol all i no is that its light and works?
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flag -aldo- (November 2, 2007 at 12:31) (Below Threshold) show comment
That's one interesting / innovative design... if people don't do stuff like this you would never get anywhere.

That being said, I'm not so sure as to how practical it is... it seems to me like in order to get rid of the derailleur they are putting in a much more complicated system that will be a lot more expensive, harder to fix, and cause more problems than a derailleur. Only advantages I truly see to this over a derailleur is the possibility of a lower centre of gravity on the bike (because of no chain rings) and possibly the infinite number of gears (although I've never wanted more than 8 gears, 9 speed is way more than enough).
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flag reallybigmantis (November 16, 2007 at 18:27) (Below Threshold) show comment
one of the cool aspects of a gearbox or internal hub is that the chain can't ever skip or grind or get caught between gears. not that you need infinite gears, but its cool to be able to change the ratio smoothly like a volume button. you can shift standing still and not worry about having to pedal out the gear change. i would like to see the technology go into hubs that fit any bike, rather than only one frame, but what a hell of a start for this guy. cheers!
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flag dubprof (November 2, 2007 at 20:38) (Below Threshold) show comment
the beginning of the end of the deraileur is here. (mind you....i'd love to have an 8 speed internal gear hub)
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flag bear93 (November 5, 2007 at 17:30) (Below Threshold) show comment
sweet
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flag crazydutchmen (November 6, 2007 at 6:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
the new honda bike
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flag mtbfreak26 (April 5, 2008 at 9:35) (Below Threshold) show comment
the honda bike is nothing more than a normal transmition jumbled up inside of a box.
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flag ribgace (May 8, 2008 at 10:57) (Below Threshold) show comment
yea,but honda transmision was revolutionar
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flag Swehopper (November 6, 2007 at 9:23) (Below Threshold) show comment
The end of Shimona
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flag tuukie (November 7, 2007 at 13:13) (Below Threshold) show comment
The end of Shitmano...
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flag collykeogh (November 6, 2007 at 13:52) (Below Threshold) show comment
wat a guy
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flag eddleston (November 6, 2007 at 14:21) (Below Threshold) show comment
impressive
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flag welshrider (November 12, 2007 at 11:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
give this guy a clap everyone
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flag kevinthelilbiker (November 12, 2007 at 16:47) (Below Threshold) show comment
awsome stuff...
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flag aflo661 (November 12, 2007 at 17:32) (Below Threshold) show comment
SWEET JESUS!
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flag adamr100 (November 20, 2007 at 13:53) (Below Threshold) show comment
surely on the bike its on, shits gunna get all inside it? cause on that proto he has there theres no gaurd to stop that?
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flag hewymann (November 21, 2007 at 20:10) (Below Threshold) show comment
how bout ya turn it auround and put it into the frame?
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flag hewymann (November 21, 2007 at 20:12) (Below Threshold) show comment
oh shit spook to soon
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flag hewymann (November 21, 2007 at 20:13) (Below Threshold) show comment
when can i buy one?
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flag Jwmbike14 (November 25, 2007 at 18:45) (Below Threshold) show comment
there is no way that the frame weighs 8 lbs... or at least not including the drivetrain...
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flag southfour (April 27, 2008 at 18:26) (Below Threshold) show comment
why would he lie?
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flag slipknotandbiking (November 29, 2007 at 13:59) (Below Threshold) show comment
deraileurs work fine for me
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flag DAMZ (December 3, 2007 at 7:19) (Below Threshold) show comment
yes, can i ride this in mud?
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flag k-rider92 (May 2, 2008 at 18:14) (Below Threshold) show comment
Im sure you could and im almost in fact certain that that hole box would be water tight and have probably some sort of lubricant in the box its self
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flag owock (December 3, 2007 at 7:46) (Below Threshold) show comment
damn i cant even understand it but it sounds cool...it'll take a good while before it makes more sense do buy one of those instead of like a deraileurs...but you need guys like him to keep goin forward. yeah if he was the one postin the vid id be like props man your the best but yeah
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flag lev3000 (December 3, 2007 at 10:42) (Below Threshold) show comment
it is not shit. the man talk funny. i like the joke
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flag -donnie-darko- (December 3, 2007 at 11:09) (Below Threshold) show comment
thats amazing, that guys gona be rich

I'd buy one if I could afford to lol
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flag madeincanada (December 3, 2007 at 12:54) (Below Threshold) show comment
awsome follow up vid to the first one, it explains a lot.
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flag kolya (December 3, 2007 at 13:30) (Below Threshold) show comment
its evolution baby
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flag Mingermouse (December 4, 2007 at 10:15) (Below Threshold) show comment
Maaan, that guy is awsome!! i mean really, coolest guy in the world!!

he's such a genious!, and he managed to draw the plans out in his bedromm which is pretty ace.

Whatta guy
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flag vwcabrio82 (December 4, 2007 at 13:32) (Below Threshold) show comment
more info at this link... very smart guy
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/10/concept_a_camba.html
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flag evancam (December 16, 2007 at 1:29) (Below Threshold) show comment
Jesus Christ, he might as well be speaking in Sanskrit
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flag 3lfd3wd (December 19, 2007 at 10:23) (Below Threshold) show comment
The Ride, by Ellsworth, features the NuVinci CVP transmission in a rear hub, looks a little tidier than this one, and a bit more reliable as well perhaps. Go check it out.
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flag stwaven (December 20, 2007 at 19:00) (Below Threshold) show comment
this would work well, duralers seem to hate me they always break and only on my bike to. none of my friends
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flag bvfreerider (January 1, 2008 at 6:40) (Below Threshold) show comment
Not only is that guy smart as hell, he rips too. It's funny/humbling to watch him go up a hill on a kona stinky as fast as he goes down it.
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flag freeriderider (January 4, 2008 at 14:07) (Below Threshold) show comment
i want to cheque out the NuVinci CVP transmission it looks dumb i dont now i juste don like it but this transmition is a great idea well its amazing
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flag Flash45 (January 12, 2008 at 0:37) (Below Threshold) show comment
wonder how it would do in a trials application, infinite engagement points and all?
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flag dwnhl63 (January 16, 2008 at 20:51) (Below Threshold) show comment
i dont get anything he just said, but it looks sweet
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flag cogan34 (February 3, 2008 at 17:58) (Below Threshold) show comment
747 WOOOSH over my head lol
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flag hawthorn (February 24, 2008 at 7:24) (Below Threshold) show comment
this idea is pretty genious but compared to the honda g-cross rn-01 design it seems to complicated but this is awesome and i hope it takes off for the guy he will be rich
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flag justin888 (March 4, 2008 at 15:43) (Below Threshold) show comment
man this guy is smart lol
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flag specializedrider07 (March 11, 2008 at 18:04) (Below Threshold) show comment
im so confused
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flag hendu (April 5, 2008 at 16:09) (Below Threshold) show comment
look at 262.1 the bottem of the triangle looks really thin and flat will that hold up?
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flag drumerbumer9 (April 28, 2008 at 17:09) (Below Threshold) show comment
i saw that and thought the same thing. but i think it would, he couldnt make that big of a desighn flaw.thats a super cool fram and i bet it will cost alottt
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flag mat-DHer (May 10, 2008 at 2:50) (Below Threshold) show comment
if youve seen the other lahar bikes they have realy thin parts aswell but somehow he seems to make them strong. the bottom chainstay on a lahar M9 is like 5mm thin
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flag bikenerdy (May 3, 2008 at 12:29) (Below Threshold) show comment
nice time machine
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flag mkkearney (May 6, 2008 at 17:31) (Below Threshold) show comment
thats intense
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flag haze999 (May 14, 2008 at 11:07) (Below Threshold) show comment
Its cool but it probably weighs a ton
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flag bighit138 (May 17, 2008 at 23:24) (Below Threshold) show comment
SO much better than the gbox, I am so looking forawrd to the day when derailuers/mechs are a thing of the past and we can finaly hit a narow line through some rocks without hangon a 100 bucks off the side of our bikes to get ruiened on the trail
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flag bighit138 (May 17, 2008 at 23:24) (Below Threshold) show comment
wow my spelling is horrible
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flag wanabetrials (May 18, 2008 at 21:39) (Below Threshold) show comment
That is amazing, if he puts it into production I'll definately buy one.
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flag jordiebighit3 (May 27, 2008 at 5:25) (Below Threshold) show comment
that man is a legend fiar play so cleaver
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flag jf951 (May 28, 2008 at 23:13) (Below Threshold) show comment
thats sick, a really great design but like people said its super complicated nd would take narly an F1 team to fix it and at this point it still looks fairly heavy. that being said the idea of it is awesome. thers no chain slip.

now try not to kill be but y not go with the idea that the honda bike had and simply sitck the deraileur into a box in the frame. its been proven to be practical. obvisouly very simple and could provide alot of the same advantages to the frame...lower center of gravity and less unsprung weight to the rear end
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