RockShox TOTEM / LYRIK discussion thread

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RockShox TOTEM / LYRIK discussion thread
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flag el-booto
Posted: Apr 20, 2020 at 20:39 Quote
streetkvnt-kvlt wrote:
s1705 wrote:
They have a 35mm stanchion Pike, so does anybody know if those stanchions would work on a 26 lyrik

Probably not because the 26' Lyriks lowers appear to be wider apart than the lowers on a 26' Pike. But I could be wrong. Probably would be far less hassle and $ just to get a 26' Pike unless your frame is a straight steerer.

Correct. Lyriks share architecture with the 35mm A1-B1 boxxer (though not interchangeable as the leg length differs)

And if OP is dealing with a straight steerer, a fox 36 will be the ticket as they still offer 1 1/8" crowns for 36s
flag richo21
Posted: Apr 23, 2020 at 2:02 Quote
Brzzi wrote:
talkingspoon wrote:
richyg wrote:
** crazy idea warning **

Always loved the stiffness of the totem, now wanting to run it 650b and upgrade the damping.

Has anyone fitted a charger2 damper to a totem?

I guess the critical interface is getting a consistent top cap size. are the the totem top caps the same diameter and thread pitch as newer lyrik/pikes? As per above post I’m guessing bigger.... does anyone have the dimensions to get one machined?

Oyherwise as long as the travel is the same and the bottom leg bolt is the same I can’t see any issue.... anyone any experience of doing this?

The totem is 40mm tubes. Not sure the thread pitch but it could work if you has someone machine you a reducer to go from the totem 40mm down to pike/lyrik 35mm.

Side note. There are 2 thread pitches for the pike, depending what production you have.

The only problem of thread pich if its industry standard or is it some RS custom.
I am still in proces of thinking.

Will post any uptdates if there would be any.

Any update on this? I've been working on my lockdown project and got my Totems with a 27.5 wheel fitted and it's looking great. I want to update the damping now....

I'm going to be running the forks at 160/170 so will swap out for a pike of lyrik charger 2.1 damper.

Upper Interface
I'm wondering if i can modify the existing Totem damper top cap to replace the Charger Damper Top Cap... if not then i think it's getting a threaded reducer.... Does anyone know if you can disassemble the charger damper without special tools? I'm tryuing to get as much info before i order one!

Lower Interface
The final variable is will the bottom end of the charger damper sit properly in the totems... does anyone have any advice? I see the note about making sure the casting plug is removed!
flag talkingspoon
Posted: Apr 23, 2020 at 9:43 Quote
the cap threads off the top of the charger damper but it holds the bladder in place. You will be better the make a reducer. The totem damper cap won't work with the charger damper even if you modify it.

The only special tool that you need is the bleed fitting but even that you can do with just a regular syringe.

If you are going to take a charger damper apart. Careful when unthreading the caps that hold the bladder in place. It will rip if you go ham on it
flag Lucas-T
Posted: Apr 24, 2020 at 8:51 Quote
richyg wrote:
Brzzi wrote:
talkingspoon wrote:


The totem is 40mm tubes. Not sure the thread pitch but it could work if you has someone machine you a reducer to go from the totem 40mm down to pike/lyrik 35mm.

Side note. There are 2 thread pitches for the pike, depending what production you have.

The only problem of thread pich if its industry standard or is it some RS custom.
I am still in proces of thinking.

Will post any uptdates if there would be any.

Any update on this? I've been working on my lockdown project and got my Totems with a 27.5 wheel fitted and it's looking great. I want to update the damping now....

I'm going to be running the forks at 160/170 so will swap out for a pike of lyrik charger 2.1 damper.

Upper Interface
I'm wondering if i can modify the existing Totem damper top cap to replace the Charger Damper Top Cap... if not then i think it's getting a threaded reducer.... Does anyone know if you can disassemble the charger damper without special tools? I'm tryuing to get as much info before i order one!

Lower Interface
The final variable is will the bottom end of the charger damper sit properly in the totems... does anyone have any advice? I see the note about making sure the casting plug is removed!

@Richyg Have you got any photos of the totem with 650B? Considering the same before I splash out on new rims.

Also for the Totems, does anyone know if you can put the normal preload spacers under the negative spring to reduce the travel by a few mm?
flag richo21
Posted: Apr 28, 2020 at 6:47 Quote
@lucas-t: yes you can reduce the travel as you describe. I’ve currently got a 20mm spacer and them sat short at 160. I’m going to move the shim to keep full 180 extension, but limit the travel to 160/170.

When running 650 wheel o.d. 710 with my 2.4 wild enduro i recommend max travel of 170mm. The totem technical drawing gives a max dimension between top of tyre and crown.

I’m currently getting a 20mm axle wheel built up, but I’ll try and post a picture with a 15mm axle and the wheel perched in place.clearance should increase slightly with the 20mm axle.

Tyre clearance was ok..maybe 10mm at closest bits, but that will change with whatever tyre/rim combo you choose.

Damper wise I think I’ve decided on making a reducing shim to take a lyrik charger 2.1 rc2 damper.

At least when all this ends in disappointment I can just buy an old Lyrik and drop in a sweet damper!

Rich
flag richo21
Posted: Apr 28, 2020 at 8:15 Quote
photo
650 in totems
Apologies the front shot is blurry, will post a better one later. I’d say clearance is ok, but I think the wild enduro is pretty big for a 2.4. Another wheel I have with a 2.6 WTB vigilante actually has a smaller outside diameter.
flag Tdawgtit
Posted: Apr 28, 2020 at 9:44 Quote
How you finding the wild enduro treads?

What compound magic x or gum x ?

What rim width external you running?

Tia
flag streetkvnt-kvlt
Posted: Apr 28, 2020 at 18:08 Quote
richyg wrote:
photo
650 in totems
Apologies the front shot is blurry, will post a better one later. I’d say clearance is ok, but I think the wild enduro is pretty big for a 2.4. Another wheel I have with a 2.6 WTB vigilante actually has a smaller outside diameter.

Looks rad. Even more so you can fit a large volume 27.5" tyre in a 26" fork that isn't a 2.1 inch tyre. Mind you the Totem was designed to take a 26x2.8 tyre anyway.
flag richo21
Posted: Apr 29, 2020 at 1:47 Quote
Tdawgtit wrote:
How you finding the wild enduro treads?

What compound magic x or gum x ?

What rim width external you running?

Tia

Superstar 25 rims

Rear gum x is rad. Rolls well and grip is awesome

Only had a couple of rides on the Front magic x. It’s grip is great, seems quite draggy though compared to my hillbilly I had on before
flag demo7jumper
Posted: Apr 29, 2020 at 1:50 Quote
richyg wrote:
photo
650 in totems
Apologies the front shot is blurry, will post a better one later. I’d say clearance is ok, but I think the wild enduro is pretty big for a 2.4. Another wheel I have with a 2.6 WTB vigilante actually has a smaller outside diameter.
Looks awesome, to be perfect if I were you I would try to anodize the stanchions in black
flag Tdawgtit
Posted: Apr 29, 2020 at 2:08 Quote
richyg wrote:
Tdawgtit wrote:
How you finding the wild enduro treads?

What compound magic x or gum x ?

What rim width external you running?

Tia

Superstar 25 rims

Rear gum x is rad. Rolls well and grip is awesome

Only had a couple of rides on the Front magic x. It’s grip is great, seems quite draggy though compared to my hillbilly I had on before

25 id yh or external?

I'm guessing internal width
flag richo21
Posted: Apr 29, 2020 at 4:03 Quote
Tdawgtit wrote:
richyg wrote:
Tdawgtit wrote:
How you finding the wild enduro treads?

What compound magic x or gum x ?

What rim width external you running?

Tia

Superstar 25 rims

Rear gum x is rad. Rolls well and grip is awesome

Only had a couple of rides on the Front magic x. It’s grip is great, seems quite draggy though compared to my hillbilly I had on before

25 id yh or external?

I'm guessing internal width

Yep, internal. Bargain wheel set. Same weight and way more durable than my Hope pro4 wheelset with enduro tech rims
flag awesomemtb4
Posted: May 2, 2020 at 12:28 Quote
I just rebuilt the airspring of my fork cleaned everything up and put the correct amount of oil in and sram buttered the dust wipers, but now the fork feels kinda sticky any ideas on what would cause thatm
flag cyberoptixs
Posted: May 2, 2020 at 12:40 Quote
awesomemtb4 wrote:
I just rebuilt the airspring of my fork cleaned everything up and put the correct amount of oil in and sram buttered the dust wipers, but now the fork feels kinda sticky any ideas on what would cause thatm

Did you put SRAM butter on the air piston? And turn your fork upside down to let oil run over the bushing
flag awesomemtb4
Posted: May 2, 2020 at 18:06 Quote
Thank you greatly for the help just have one more problem, my low speed compression know won't turn. I took off the knobs to clean the damper a bit and when I put them back on it won't turn. This problem has been solved earlier in the form but that solution did not fix anything for me. I have taken off the knobs before with no problems I don't know what is going on. Thoughts anyone? Thanks

 


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